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Phoenix Online Studios => Cognition => General => Topic started by: KatieHal on October 15, 2012, 07:15:28 PM

Title: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on October 15, 2012, 07:15:28 PM
The demo of Episode 1: The Hangman is now available! Download it, check out, and let us know what you think! We'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback on Erica's first (and very harrowing!) 'adventure'.

Download available here: http://raindg.com/title/cognition/

And if you're in Europe and can't access the Rain page, the demo will soon be available via a link on the Cognition (http://www.postudios.com/cognition/) website (if it hasn't finished it's upload to our site already).
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: dpm99 on October 17, 2012, 09:51:29 AM
Well, I was immensely impressed with the demo. Allowing players to experience two different endings (that I found) was quite a nice surprise. I have to apologize for not supporting your Kickstarter campaign. I had my doubts about whether or not you could produce a quality product on such a miniscule budget. The voice actress for Erica is top-notch, the gameplay “hook” is unique and fun to use, the character models are detailed and beautifully animated, and the game has an atmosphere that compels me to keep playing.

One thing confused me, however: Why was the killer in the “Hangman” episode 1 demo always referred to as the “Cain Killer”? I thought the “Cain Killer” was the focus of episode 4.

I am genuinely interested in eventually purchasing this game. Unfortunately, I will have to wait a while, since I do not support the DRM associated with digitally distributed games. If/when a boxed copy (that does not require Steam, Origin, uPlay, etc.) is ever produced, you will have my support.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on October 17, 2012, 10:00:13 AM
The Hangman and the Cain Killer are two different people--the Cain Killer is in the demo section of Episode 1, but the rest of the episode has a different focus. More than that would be spoilers! :)

Glad you enjoyed the demo!
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: dkbtf on October 18, 2012, 02:23:47 AM
The demo is a lot better than I tought it would be. I've backed this game with not big expectations, to support the adventure genre, and now I'm eagerly waiting for the release of this first episode. Sad I've didn't pledged more to this project, who actually deserved it.

For my thoughts about the demo :

The voice acting and music is perfect, very immersive.

The animation is not perfect, but in the vein of Telltale's Walking Dead (who had a bigger budget). But the story and the sounds are so immersive that it didn't bothered me at all (which I thought it would, seeing the screenshots).

I loved the visual of the angel statue a lot, and the visual in general. I've been stressed the entire demo, feeling the urge to move, to resolve the case as fast as I could to save Erica's brother.

So, for me, it's a great job. Great story, ambiance, voices, puzzles...

(sorry if my english is not perfect, it's not my native language)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Stignato on October 20, 2012, 04:00:55 PM
Wow! :) Played the demo twice and loved it. Is this demo a earlier build of the game or the final one? Because i had bad performance sometimes, noticed that because my mouse cursor was really slow sometimes and while i had VSync turned off my graphic card got louder and overheated a bit i think :P Also i got buggy movement animations while i had VSync turned off, thought why this awesome game has so bad movement animations, but after i turned VSync on it was perfect. ;) I really loved the demo, the only 2 things which could be better would be the performance and the loading mouse cursor. During the video sequences he should be invisible or turned off and the mouse cursor loading times could be better sometimes! ;) I mean the time it takes until you can do something again. Hope its ok that i gave you guys this feedback  8)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Jafar on October 21, 2012, 06:35:11 AM
I guess it was just because it was a prolouge, but the puzzle solutions seemed really obvious to me. Erica pretty much spelled out everything I had to do. (And there was a HINT system? :P )


Also, having to call a man over to shovel dirt for her really hurts her tough-as-nails feminist heroine image. ::)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on October 21, 2012, 07:37:52 AM
Jafar:

It wasn't that she couldn't physically shovel it herself, it was that her powers kept acting up & showing her Scott getting dragged into the tomb when she tried to use it (she comments on this, actually). Rather distracting when you're in a time crunch!

Design-wise, we wanted to incorporate working with John and making him a part of what was going on as well.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Jafar on October 21, 2012, 08:00:51 AM
I know, I know, I'm just teasing. ;)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Deloria on October 21, 2012, 08:18:32 AM
I had trouble imagining a situation in which I were sorry about my brother's being horribly mutilated by a potential serial killer. :P Moreso because we've not actually seen any of their interactions in a non fatal-last-moment-retrospective setting. :P I didn't feel as though I got much insight into her character. I loved the artwork and thought the voice acting had some very good moments though. :) And I appreciate that the moon is an orange portal. XD
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Say on October 28, 2012, 01:36:19 PM
Some screenshots for those who havent downloaded the demo yet!

The introo :D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/15gwaqt.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/28asy1h.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2vd1n2f.jpg)

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2nuhc1t.jpg)

The game :D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/n3ael5.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2chom68.jpg)

(Posted on: October 28, 2012, 03:35:26 PM)


BTW, forgot to say this...

I LOVE IT, AND CAN'T WAIT!
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: SilverBall10 on October 30, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
I tried the demo and I've seen that in the cellular phone you can
click on "TSL EPISODE 5", if you choose "cancel" she says that she downloaded it already!

Does she live in the future?????  ;)
She hasn't already played it, though  :rofl:

I want Episode 5 of The Silver Lining  :)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on October 30, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
You found one of the easter eggs in the game! Nice!

Erica lives in something of a parallel dimension, since it's 2011 and she's got Ep 5 already ;) I think in her world days are 36 hours long and they've got about 500 of them in a year, and that's how we had enough time to finish Ep 5 in Oct. 2011!
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: sebarnolds on November 20, 2012, 05:03:15 AM
Hi.

I played the demo yesterday and enjoyed every bit of it. It's great.

However, I won't buy it because of the DRM: I don't buy games that activate online because I want to be able to play my games whenever I want (even in 2020 if I want). The only exception to this rule is for games on promo.

If you ever release it drm-free (GOG or GamersGate ?), I'll gladly buy it.

Also, how do I get a different ending on the demo ?
By failing the last puzzle ?
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on November 20, 2012, 07:37:43 AM
Hi Seb--Actually, as of this week, the game is DRM-free at all sites :) We just announced it in our latest newsletter that went out last night, in fact. So yes, it is available on GamersGate DRM-free.

GOG doesn't do episodic content until everything it released--not even Walking Dead is up there yet! But once the whole game is out, we very much want to get the game on there.

And yes, that's how you get an alternate ending to the demo :)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: sebarnolds on November 20, 2012, 07:52:26 AM
Thanks for the quick answer.

I don't really know if this is the right place to continue this conversation, so feel free to move this elsewhere if needed.

I'd prefer buy it on GamersGate but I have a coupon for it on the Rain shop as I am a CSG backer (Moebius). Can you tell me how it handles downloads and updates ? I saw it was Digital River so I guess downloads are limited in time. As I like drm-free, I like having the possibility to have an installer with the latest up-to-date version of the game, wil it be possible ? (not necessarily now, but at least, once the season is over).

Thanks forward.

PS: Don't forget to ask GamersGate folks to update the DRM description to DRM-free.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: snabbott on November 20, 2012, 10:01:24 AM
Hi Seb--Actually, as of this week, the game is DRM-free at all sites :)
That should make a lot of people happy! :)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: wilco64256 on November 20, 2012, 11:37:55 AM
Thanks for the quick answer.

I don't really know if this is the right place to continue this conversation, so feel free to move this elsewhere if needed.

I'd prefer buy it on GamersGate but I have a coupon for it on the Rain shop as I am a CSG backer (Moebius). Can you tell me how it handles downloads and updates ? I saw it was Digital River so I guess downloads are limited in time. As I like drm-free, I like having the possibility to have an installer with the latest up-to-date version of the game, wil it be possible ? (not necessarily now, but at least, once the season is over).

Thanks forward.

PS: Don't forget to ask GamersGate folks to update the DRM description to DRM-free.

Yeah we're working on getting page descriptions updated, and no worries on the Digital River stuff. If we need to push an update through them you won't be restricted from downloading the update based on time.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: Pyyhkari on November 20, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
Qualitywise, I'm very impressed. The overall mood was well maintained over the demo. The music loop at the midpoint might've been too short and I don't think the game managed to convey the main character's feeling at the very end of the demo as well as it should have. (Voice acting + E.R.'s face didn't uphold the suspension of disbelief for me. I expect many will vocally disagree with me.)

I came here via a link in Pinkerton Road Studios' Kickstarter backer e-mail with no real information outside that, so I may have missed some relevant information elsewhere - but the final note at the end of the demo originally led me to believe that this was the whole episode one ("Continued in Episode 2.") which was a huge letdown. Now I'm in the belief that there is much more to episode 1 than this.

A potential nitpick about a puzzle:
The phone call to Terence(sp?) got frustrating since I managed to have the walls redecorated with red and gray but I couldn't completely skip ahead to the actual puzzle - unless I missed something (wouldn't surprise me). Maybe give the option on the second time onward attempting to clear the same puzzle?

Overall... this game will end up on my wishlist but won't grace my pile of shame a.k.a. backlog (which has at the moment at least half a dozen other adventure games - even without counting Telltale Games' games) for at least half a year. But I will go vote for it on Steam Greenlight right away.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: wilco64256 on November 20, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Yeah that's just the demo, the first "act" of the game. It's just got the incorrect image at the end, sorry about that!
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: boopish on March 11, 2013, 05:31:23 PM
I wasn't sure what to expect from this game, so I tried out the demo. The character movement and interaction with the environment is well done. I was grateful for the tutorial, but unfortunately it made no mention of what the briefcase was for. I'm not sure why it took me so long to figure out the briefcase uses the selected item, but it would have been a nice feature to have the briefcase icon change to the selected item. Even just a quick pop up with a description of the three cursor points would have resolved this issue for me. I'm sure this wasn't an issue for almost everyone, but I wanted to be honest.

Erica's special power adds a nice depth to the game and puzzles. The music and voice acting is fantastic. The graphics portray the mood and the environment well. She runs a lot like I do, which is at roughly the same pace she walks. I didn't bother making her run, because I felt sorry for her.

My husband played Heavy Rain, which I disliked because it was graphic, and disturbing. Unfortunately Cognition reminds me of Heavy Rain, so I won't be playing it, but I do wish you the best success Cognition and your future endeavours.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: snabbott on March 12, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, this game is definitely not for everyone - there's some disturbing stuff in there. Have you played TSL? It's more family friendly. :)
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: GrahamRocks! on March 12, 2013, 03:53:41 PM
Hey, if you don't like disturbing stuff...

Then DON'T play episode 2 of Cog either! Right from the opening scene, there's gore.
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: boopish on March 14, 2013, 11:19:10 AM
I have tried TSL, and it is amazing! I was just hopeful I would like Cognition, so I could help support the amazing group that made TSL free. Maybe they will make another game like TSL, because I would definitely pay to play something like that!
Title: Re: Cognition Demo Thoughts and Feedback
Post by: KatieHal on March 14, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
Understandable, boopish--there is definitely some cringe-inducing stuff in Cognition, and that's not for everyone. But thanks for your support regardless! :) And yes, we are looking into making some games that are more TSL-like in the future (as well as some that aren't).