The upcoming Episode titles are out there, but what do they really mean? What's Erica going to come up against next? What's really going on behind the scenes? Let's hear your theories and wild speculations!
Obviously, spoilers may follow, so you've been warned. :)
I'll hazard a cheap guess and say that this might be somehow related to Episode 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_wise_monkeys
Maaaaybe. :suffer:
Oh! I think that may have been the first Suffer I've gotten to use for Cognition! Awesome!
I'd love to see some fanart of Erica vs. Three Wise Monkeys. Actual monkeys. :)
One thing that I noticed was the trident symbol. It was tattooed on Antony Longmoore's arm, it was used on his computer to find the last hanging location, AND, it was used by the Cain killer as well, on the wheel Erica had to open the door with. So, we can assume that Davies killer and Cain is the same person.
Now...suspects...
I think I'll place my bets on Cordelia for now. She was at the cemetery the night Scott died. Aaand, she mentioned that she took care of the "family business", and that her dead brother Max was an ace at it. Hmmm... :sneaky:
So Max died in a fire, and Cordelia picked up where he left of.
What's that? She said Max died six years ago? That's in crazy-time, silly! It goes twice as fast as regular time!
Quote from: Mr_Nabby on November 10, 2012, 09:13:03 AM
So, we can assume that Davies killer and Cain is the same person.
You can assume that if you like. :suffer:
Quote from: Mr_Nabby on November 10, 2012, 09:13:03 AM
One thing that I noticed was the trident symbol.
I noticed the trident symbol as well (well, I guess everyone did, since we had to take a picture of it :P). It could also be interpreted as the Greek letter "psi". Rose said Erica was a
psion so I suppose the two are related. Besides, the hidden message "if your eyes could see what mine can't", points to Erica's skills as well. I'm not very good at elaborating theories, so I'll remain cautious and wait for episode 2 to check if my intuition is right ;)
Cordelia's very intriguing, I agree...
Cordelia definitely seems connected.
CORDELIA = OLD ERICA
There is time travel involved.
And a godlike poodle.
XD
LOL, one of my favorite theories is Mikael's :)
Quote from: MikPal on November 11, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
CORDELIA = OLD ERICA
There is time travel involved.
And a godlike poodle.
And Gwen Graham is obviously Alexander and Cassimas daughter trapped in another dimension, she just doesn't know who her real parents are. And that's her poodle.
The poodle needs no mortal fool to do his bidding!
(http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/palsiom/PIC/ThusPooSpoke.jpg)
:bow:
This is just a small suggestion, and the team might have had something planned like this anyway, but a nice Thanksgiving gift would be a trailer for Episode 2 to help with the theories ;)
Cesar planned the next best thing for Thanksgiving present, a spoilerish chat on steam groups today at 8pm EST time. I believe developers will be chatting up with everyone and talking about Episode 2 stuff :P
Besides the Giveaway, that is!
Those who do not have steam, I invite you to register an account there and participate in the Steam Groups. Lots of exclusive goodies there :D
We've got new screenshots up from Episode 2. Do they fuel any speculations you might have? :)
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499459988/DA47D882AE95F235BCFE833D43788D7CBE8A7B8A/637x358.resizedimage)
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499462067/ED6F833611DFF3DABC18D85B1FB4CA41219FAC31/637x358.resizedimage)
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499463930/A140578F6140A057646515EC9381FC3AF32FAD3B/637x358.resizedimage)
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499466630/29D807689CE07CF73CF598D6EBF8332644804356/637x358.resizedimage)
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499469211/7084ACEDE2786E157BB23EFE55E86FF89D967A13/637x358.resizedimage)
Nope. No speculation necessary. :P :suffer:
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/578976070499463930/A140578F6140A057646515EC9381FC3AF32FAD3B/637x358.resizedimage)
"I'm quitting the force to play the cello!"
"And you can't stop me, dammit!"
Good work on uncovering the plot, drusain!
Well, that would certainly be a plot twist NO ONE would expect coming!
Heh - could you imagine that... like seriously playing a game, and suddenly....
"I wanna dance!"
And all of a sudden, a cop drama becomes "Fame"! Heh...
Screenies look good. I'm getting psyched to play Episode II.
Bt
Quote from: Blackthorne on December 23, 2012, 09:10:58 AM
Heh - could you imagine that... like seriously playing a game, and suddenly....
"I wanna dance!"
There are some... videos that will never be shown to the public.
Let's just say that they involved glitches from an early build (you can see some in the background of Phoenix Bunch) and the song "What Is Love" by Haddaway.
I want to see that!
Quote from: MikPal on November 11, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
CORDELIA = OLD ERICA
There is time travel involved.
And a godlike poodle.
It blowed my mind. But after thought what if Rose was also Erica Reed, who got back from future to teach present Reed. We would get three Ericas at the same time. :D
Sully is alternate universe Erica! :D
I... I... I don't wanna comprehend either of those last two theories. They make no sense!
Well, after playing the 2nd episode, i'm thinking of the worst case scenario : the super killer is a psionic like erica.
After all, how could he put to the test our heroïne's abilities via puzzles she's the only one to solve ?
1) He used his powers to locate various serial killers through Boston, and gave clues to stop them to the local branch of the FBI.
2) His warnings are not heeded, so he eliminates the serial killers himself and punish the agents who were charged to put them out of action with the modus operandi of the killers. In sort, it makes him a serial killer "X" (anyone played Condemned : Criminal Origins ?)
3) The visions of erica are out of control because her nemesis being a psionic, he is a completely unpredictable opponent.
4) That Cordelia is so cute... and since she knows Rose + was a witness to erica's brother's death... hum, suspicious ? Lady in distress (since she required protection) or manipulative monster ?
Like I said, it's only a worst case scenario theory...
Quote from: python79 on February 04, 2013, 02:55:39 PM
Well, after playing the 2nd episode, i'm thinking of the worst case scenario : the super killer is a psionic like erica.
After all, how could he put to the test our heroïne's abilities via puzzles she's the only one to solve ?
1) He used his powers to locate various serial killers through Boston, and gave clues to stop them to the local branch of the FBI.
2) His warnings are not heeded, so he eliminates the serial killers himself and punish the agents who were charged to put them out of action with the modus operandi of the killers. In sort, it makes him a serial killer "X" (anyone played Condemned : Criminal Origins ?)
3) The visions of erica are out of control because her nemesis being a psionic, he is a completely unpredictable opponent.
4) That Cordelia is so cute... and since she knows Rose + was a witness to erica's brother's death... hum, suspicious ? Lady in distress (since she required protection) or manipulative monster ?
Like I said, it's only a worst case scenario theory...
I was gonna say a Wizard did it. But then again, that's my excuse for everything.
Welcome to the forum, by the way :)
I hope you enjoy it here :)
Welcome to the forums, python!
Hmm, interesting theories you have there. :suffer:
Yeah, the killer is most likely a Psion. How else could he/she be able to leave clues that only another Psion would be able to see. Also, in the quiz it says something like: "You have been able to use your ability well."
Wait a second...I just realised something! Whoever the real killer is (I'll strongly believe it's this "Oracle" character) it's no mystery that he possesses a great deal of knowledge of how to manipulate the Cognitive power. Even so that he can fool Erica!
Think like this:
When Sully was kidnapped it really was Tess, plus another person. She Drugged him and took him outside. Then her partner in crime, "Oracle", blew the knockout powder in her face and locked her in the trunk of the car. BUT TESS WAS IN ON IT! It was an act! They knew that when Erica found Tess, she would try to look into the past with her powers. And when she did, she would see the falsified memory that they created. And she would think that Tess was innocent.
Because, really! Are we supposed to believe that someone else was waltzing into the FBI and serving them coffee, and no one would notice? Erica, Sully or John? No one?
Hey, that's another thing. John have been strangely absent from everything... And he just left the FBI station before Sully was kidnapped...So he WAS on the scene of the crime...
Well, you know what they say! It's always the last person you suspect.
My thoughts:
The killer is also a Psion, as Erica, and it's Cordelia, of course. She's like an evil version of Erica, both have lost their siblings.
The killer used Joey to lead the FBI to the towers where resides Cordelia, throwing him on the cops supposed to guard the place no less... it shall be a good opportunity to visit Cordelia's appartment and have some clues on maybe how she lost her own brother.
Quote from: Horazor on February 05, 2013, 03:53:21 PM
My thoughts:
The killer is also a Psion, as Erica, and it's Cordelia, of course. She's like an evil version of Erica, both have lost their siblings.
only played Episode 1 but honestly I had the same idea, that Cordelia is evil.
Maybe her brother was the same guy who kidnapped Erica's brother during the prologue?
Also, welcome to the forums, I hope you enjoy it here :thumbsup:
I somewhat hope that's not the case, because if it is, it's too obvious and would require a lot of background information on Cordelia to overcome it. Maybe playing as her and learning her tragic past would help there.
yeah I guess it would be a little contrived
A gamer named Rushes (that's the forum id) over at gameboombers wrote up a review on The Wise Monkey. If nobody's seen it, it's http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Cc/Cognition2/Cognition2.htm (http://www.gameboomers.com/reviews/Cc/Cognition2/Cognition2.htm)
I'm calling it now. Killer sorority like this one (https://www.alphaphi.org/Home) but more murdery.
So many questions, happy most of them will be answered in episode 3!
[spoiler]Cordelia = The Oracle obviously. It would have been nice to have some other false leads but its forgiven because there are so many things left to discover about Coredlia in episode 3! What is Max's role (her dead brother). I don't think he's The Cain Killer, although it could be possible I guess if Max is not really dead. Is the Cain Killer involved in her evil schemes. She most definitely has the powers Erica has, otherwise it would be impossible to set up all the devious puzzles. But how did she and Erica get the powers? It does seem that she knows more about her powers than Erica. Ah, cant wait to see how the plot develops. [/spoiler]
You know what. I'm wondering how evil would be if cordelia was evil sister of Erica. She killed her brother, saw despair of her sister and came up with sad story to get sympathy from her.
I'm pretty sure Cordelia is the Oracle. It's obvious, really.
That man at her apartment building that she was "afraid" of was Joey. And she didn't want the Police there for protection from him, she wanted them there so that she could "release him into their custody."
Quote from: Jack Stryker on March 20, 2013, 12:55:23 AM
I'm pretty sure Cordelia is the Oracle. It's obvious, really.
That man at her apartment building that she was "afraid" of was Joey. And she didn't want the Police there for protection from him, she wanted them there so that she could "release him into their custody."
Yeah, I agree its obvious. But I also like that this will be revealed in episode 3, hopefully quite early. Then there is a whole episode left devoted to the Cain Killer, who he is and what the motives are for him and The Oracle.
Could the Cain killer be Max (Cordelia's "dead" brother)? Possibly, since its hinted in the prequel comic that The Oracle helps building The Cain Killer's deadly contraptions. It would also fit with the brother-sister murder theme. Maybe Max and Cordelia had something traumatic happen to them and they want other siblings to experience the same thing.
In the comic the Oracle has someone captive who is helping her with the building. He doesnt know why he is helping. I can't figure out who that is. Can you?
Quote from: Göran on March 26, 2013, 03:49:34 AM
In the comic the Oracle has someone captive who is helping her with the building. He doesnt know why he is helping. I can't figure out who that is. Can you?
Yes. :suffer:
Quote from: snabbott on March 26, 2013, 07:07:34 AM
Quote from: Göran on March 26, 2013, 03:49:34 AM
In the comic the Oracle has someone captive who is helping her with the building. He doesnt know why he is helping. I can't figure out who that is. Can you?
Yes. :suffer:
Haha, bring on next episode and end this torture already!
Soon Goran, soon... (I hope :P )
Hello everyone, I'm new around here :)
Like many of you, I also think that Cordelia is the Oracle. More than that, I think she is the Hangman and the Wise Monkey.
All the leads related to her...
[spoiler]* She was at the crime scene when Scott died.
* She met Rose - that proves she has supernatural powers like Erica and even stronger powers.
* She seems to know more about Erica. She is also keeps comparing Erica to her ("you sound a lot like me sometimes").
* The man she saw and she is afraid of (the one with scars on this face) - I think this is the Cain Killer, and there's a connection between them.
* Max, her dead brother (or maybe he is not dead) - She mentioned that they lost their parents when they were young. Maybe he is the Cain Killer and this is the reason why they kill siblings?
* She lives at Enthon Towers - this is the place where Joey is being thrown off the roof.[/spoiler]
I really hope she isn't the killer, because if she is - then it's too expected and obvious.
You promised that the identify of the killer is disturbing and unexpected :)
Check that:
(http://srv2.jpg.co.il/2/517a8cad2a67c.jpg)
Cordelia is really looks like the killer. Don't you think?
Welcome to the forums! Nice username :)
Hey, maybe Cordelia was just looking to buy some nice antiques when she met Rose. You never know...
:suffer: <--that's the Suffer. You'll see him whenever folks speculate or ask or plot details that we're not gonna tell you :)
Thank You!
and nice to meet the Suffer :)
Maybe this Suffer is the killer... you never know ;)
Haha! Well, he definitely has a mean streak. :)
I still say the killer was the butter, it's always the butler... you'll see!
Quote from: stika on May 13, 2013, 09:40:42 AM
I still say the killer was the butter,
Mmm, killer butter...yep, they all died of clogged arteries, it turns out! :P
Wouldn't that mean it was the cook then? :P
Quote from: Jack Stryker on March 20, 2013, 12:55:23 AM
I'm pretty sure Cordelia is the Oracle. It's obvious, really.
That man at her apartment building that she was "afraid" of was Joey. And she didn't want the Police there for protection from him, she wanted them there so that she could "release him into their custody."
My theory is that she is the Cain Killer, but I like this theory more.
In the prologue, the Cain Killer was most definitely male, I'm sure of it
What tipped you off? ;B
hey it's 1AM, brain no work properly ;D
Hmm, but are the Oracle and the Cain Killer the same person? :suffer:
... :o *raises eyebrows*
I think the Cain Killer is really Rose, and that's why she walks funny when you first meet her. :suffer:
Oh, puleeze! ::)
No one ever believes me when I say it's Cedric, but just you wait.
"Look out, John! A POISONOUS knife!"
:rofl:
I think that the killer is Max (the "dead" brother of Cordelia). I think he is the Cain Killer and she is the Oracle.
Let's see if my theory is right :)
I almost sure that Max is the killer. Look at his eyes:
(http://srv1.jpg.co.il/1/51929c37b6f79.bmp)
I really hope that he isn't, because it's too expected and not surprising :-[
I'll admit I haven't played Episode 3 yet, but I thought it being Cordelia was the obvious choice? :P
Wait, what is that left image from? I don't remember that from episode 2.
It's one the released screenshots for Ep 3.
DUN DUN DUH!
Of course, that image obviously has tinting going on, so those two eyes colors may not actually be the same, you know.
yep, I saw it in a preview yesterday
You can see some more in Cez's latest blog post :)
http://www.postudios.com/blog/?p=2916
(which reminds me to link to it in the official dev diary thread...)
Quote from: KatieHal on May 14, 2013, 04:04:51 PM
Of course, that image obviously has tinting going on, so those two eyes colors may not actually be the same, you know.
You are right :)
I think that in the ending scene of EP1 we saw for a brief moment the eyes of the killer and it was scary. :'(
haven't played Ep 3 yet, but I must know! Was it the butler? WAS IT?
Quote from: stika on May 17, 2013, 06:57:32 AM
haven't played Ep 3 yet, but I must know! Was it the butler? WAS IT?
*lips sealed* :-X
So, John has been shot. But that wasn't supposed to happen! It was supposed to be someone trying to kill Erica! Hm, yes... It's a braintwister alright...
Does this mean that John was going to try to shoot Erica? No, I don't think so...It is more likely that something changed. But could this be Cordelia's doing? She was having a inner debate in her journal if she should punish John or not for ignoring her advice, and just plainly being lazy. Even if he did help her once...
Yes...I'll place my money on "Cordelia manipulated Erica to kill John because she thought he was responsible for the death of others, like Davies".
Okay, I've GOT to stop looking to stop looking at this thread until either, A) Toegoff finishes his LP or B) I play the game myself!
First Scottie, then Davies, then Sully, now John?! Is everyone close to Erica going to have their life either taken away or at least take a turn for the worst?!
Oh no... I'm remembering the live show a few days ago...
Who's next? Dear old Dad, Terence, Gallagher, Gwen, McAdams, or Rose? PLACE YOUR BETS!
Eh, nobody cares about McAss- er McAdams.
:suffer:
What's this? Is this will be explained in EP4?
http://www.postudios.com/cognition/assets/previews/PrequelComicPreview.pdf
Where can I read the rest of that comic? I can hear the characters very well in my head, and it's awesome!
here (http://store.postudios.com/collections/all/products/comic-book-a-prequel-to-cognition-an-erica-reed-thriller) :)
That is the prequel comic--it covers the previous Cain Killer murders in more detail, and has some other vaguely hinted at things that, yes, will be touched on in Episode 4. Some of it will also make a little more sense after playing Ep 3, though, of course.
I've already pieced some things together just from that preview alone! Man, that looks awesome!
Totally forgot about that comic. It feels like so long ago, think it came out with Episode 1 back in October.
Maybe the guy that is hanged there is Keith? And Cordelia (as the Oracle) trying to punish him, now that she knows he is the Cain Killer.
(http://s15.postimg.org/6k6vje1nf/image.png)
I also would like to learn in EP4 about the victims: Selim and Matthew George. Why the Cain Killer wanted Selim to suffer about her brother? it's really intriguing :)
it's interesting because I hadn't even thought about the prequel comic before, but that actually makes a lot of sense
I can confirm that those are indeed Cordelia and Keith.
Quote from: Cez on May 24, 2013, 10:33:12 PM
I can confirm that those are indeed Cordelia and Keith.
That explains a lot, thank you :)
In my opinion, Keith deserves it for what he has done to Cordelia, Erica and many.
He destoryed so many lives...
Not such a nice guy, it turns out!
Quote from: Cez on May 24, 2013, 10:33:12 PM
I can confirm that those are indeed Cordelia and Keith.
Interesting...
I am sure that the mysterious egg sandwich will play an important role in cracking the case.