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Title: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on February 27, 2013, 10:21:51 AM
Who is the more pathetic computer game "hero": Mike Dawson, from Dark Seed II, or Prince Alexander from King's Quest VI?

Both are obsessed with a woman they only barely knew; Both are driven by the love of said woman to risk their lives.

Both are considered dangerous figures by the other characters in the game--Mike is thought to be Rita (the girl he loved)'s murderer; Alexander is thought to be a foreign assassin come to kill Cassima. Both are very soft spoken, passionate, verbose characters, who also have strong passive aggressive sides to them.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on February 27, 2013, 10:25:30 AM
Mike Dawson, the guy is such a wuss, especially in the sequel
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on February 28, 2013, 02:59:30 PM
Mike Dawson.

Alexander is awsome and woofully misunderstood.

1) Alexander and Cassima already love eachother and spent time together. Mike Dawsom only thinks he loved Rita when really she seems to dislike him.
2) No one thinks Mike is dangerous, just that he is a wimpy murderer.
3) I think you mixed up their personalities a bit. Though the major difference between the two is that Mike is as you call it "Soft spoken" because he is a wimp and sounds like he will cry any second (and probably will). While Alexander is soft spoken because he is soft spoken and is a strong person.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on March 01, 2013, 04:46:03 AM
By the way, if you guys have the time you should watch PBG's  hilarious but spoiler filled reviews of Darkseed and Darkseed 2


Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 11:38:47 AM
I find it weird that we are lashing out at the only character in the royal family who has a personality outside of "adventurous."
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on March 01, 2013, 11:43:12 AM
Heeeey

Zanthia has a personality D:
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 11:50:49 AM
Zanthia, she is the one from Kyrandia Hand of Fate right? I like that game. :)

I was referring to King's Quest characters, not adventure games at large.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on March 01, 2013, 11:53:35 AM
yeah she's from Legend of Kyrandia 2 and one of my favourite main characters during the late 80's/early 90's adventure game era.

As for king's Quest, yeah you do make a good point I guess :P
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Jafar on March 01, 2013, 12:29:17 PM
Zanthia's one of the coolest adventure game protagonists ever. 8)

Anyway, I dunno who Mike Dawson is, but is he more pathetic than Brandon? (Not Brandelling :P)
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Lambonius on March 01, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
What an obscure comparison.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on March 01, 2013, 01:03:12 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on March 01, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
What an obscure comparison.
that's why this thread is awesome 8)
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on March 01, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 11:38:47 AM
I find it weird that we are lashing out at the only character in the royal family who has a personality outside of "adventurous."

People make fun of Alexander because he is soft spoken mostly which is often translated as "Wimpy" to a lot of people.

I honestly really love Alexander as a protagonist.

Also Valanece's personality isn't "adventurous". Then again she was only a playable character once and she only went on a adventure because she was kinda forced to.

Mike Dawson on the other hand is meant to be pathetic.

Though I prefer Retsupurae's Letsplay of Darkseed 1 and 2 for just raw comedy. Though Slowbeef also did a ordinary letsplay that was well done too.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Valanice is also unlikeable, I don't think there is a lot of disagreement there.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on March 01, 2013, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Valanice is also unlikeable, I don't think there is a lot of disagreement there.

Given that Rosella was primely concerned with only herself and Valanice actually went out of her way to help everyone.

I am going to have to disagree with you there.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: Neonivek on March 01, 2013, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: Bludshot on March 01, 2013, 03:55:31 PM
Valanice is also unlikeable, I don't think there is a lot of disagreement there.

Given that Rosella was primely concerned with only herself and Valanice actually went out of her way to help everyone.

I am going to have to disagree with you there.

Your argument has merit, let's just discard KQ7 all together.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on March 02, 2013, 07:34:05 AM
Quotelet's just discard KQ7 all together

As the weakest of all the Kings Quests.

Possibly but this is very much off topic of the topic creator expressing hate towards Mike Dawson and Alexander

Hating Alexander which means he was watching the Retsupurae of KQ6 obviously. Since only they constantly insult him.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 02, 2013, 08:51:07 AM
Quote from: Neonivek on March 02, 2013, 07:34:05 AM
Quotelet's just discard KQ7 all together

As the weakest of all the Kings Quests.

Possibly but this is very much off topic of the topic creator expressing hate towards Mike Dawson and Alexander

Hating Alexander which means he was watching the Retsupurae of KQ6 obviously. Since only they constantly insult him.

Yes, they are awesome.
Imagine if Mike Dawson and Prince Alexander joined together on a Quest.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on March 02, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
You arn't going to get much people who think Alexander is as much of a wimp since he really isn't.

You are projecting and the only people who get the joke Perceval are people who watched that Letsplay. They arn't speaking for the community or the game's design. They are making comedy.

Mike Dawson is fair since the game is supposed to treat him like a pathetic loser and that is a very big part of the game.

Alexander however is more or less the opposite of Graham and is supposed to be studious, softspoken, and romantic. His first act in the series was finding the Green Isle by the starts he saw in one scene earlier, which is vastly impressive and shows his intelligence.

A game with Mike Dawson AND Alexander would be terrible because they arn't on equal terms and they arn't even similar protagonists nor ones who can bounce off of eachother.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Delling on March 02, 2013, 10:16:06 AM
Quote from: Neonivek on March 02, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
His first act in the series was finding the Green Isle by the starts he saw in one scene earlier, which is vastly impressive and shows his intelligence.

Yeah... no. The celestial sphere advances from east to west with the rotation of the planet. At most, he might have figured out the latitude of her location and that by assuming an orientation of the view the magic mirror gave him, and then that is only particularly helpful if it's near a pole, which it isn't since it's tropical...

I'd rather call it something worse than "nonsense" but I've lent my thesaurus to someone who needed it more.

Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Neonivek on March 02, 2013, 02:52:17 PM
Astrolocation is a real thing. Admittingly you need a sextant but it is a real thing.

If he recognised a few stars then he knows the latitude as you said and he would have that no matter where the mirror's view was facing (Since you don't need to be facing any "correct" view. You just need to see the right stars)

What Alexander did was possible just extremely unlikely and indicates he has a photographic memory.

Longitude is possible if some of the stars he saw were the right ones.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Lambonius on March 02, 2013, 05:38:58 PM
Sextant.  *snicker*
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: stika on March 02, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
oh hush you!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: Deloria on March 03, 2013, 01:02:09 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on March 02, 2013, 05:38:58 PM
Sextant.  *snicker*
Lamb: Lowering the tone since 2006.
Title: Re: Who is the more pathetic hero: Mike Dawson, or Prince Alexander?
Post by: GrahamRocks! on March 03, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
*giggles* Nice~