That's right, no more avoiding this hot topic that kids and trolls argue all day on the internet.
Which is the best console?
[spoiler](http://northofamerica.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/snes-sega.jpg)[/spoiler]
the SNES or the Genesis!!
... what? what console war did you think I meant? The PS3 vs. 360? pfftt... please :P
Super Metroid isn't on Genesis. Game over.
Quote from: Lambonius on March 31, 2013, 08:55:27 AM
Super Metroid isn't on Genesis. Game over.
I have to second this.
Also Harvest Moon and Super Mario RPG. Easily three of my all-time favorites. Harvest Moon is actually coming to the 3DS eShop sometime soon and I'm totally stoked.
As much as I love Super Metroid, shadowrun for the Genesis is my favourite 16 bit game of all time.
as for the SNES' Harvest Moon... I honestly never cared for it, I feel it aged poorly, especially when compared to the GBA one.
so for me, Genesis is the best console
The Genesis is a crappy console compared to the SNES, and the controller is terrible.
nuh-huh, Sega Genesis is awesome!
Know what this reminds me of?
(http://novelnovicetwilight.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/cullen-vs-black_the-debate8.jpg)
Yeah. I went there.
except in that war there are no winners, only losers :P
Well, if I had a choice, then I would pick Jacob. Either that or nobody, or Charlie.
They're both great consoles with amazing games. But SNES has more of my favorite games, so I'd lean towards that.
Both consoles are also too good to be compared to Bella's bozo boyfriends. If anything, Edward is a Game.com while Jacob's an N-Gage. ::)
Let me just contribute by saying that I absolutely despise both consoles with the fury of a thousand suns.
No, I don't have any real reason to; I'm just having an off day.
I did enjoy both, but Lamb is right: Super Metroid is not on Genesis.
SNES wins. But I'll always love both.
Bt
No one chooses the Genesis? I feel so alone :-[
There's no point in me taking either side. I've never owned either.
Quote from: GrahamRocks! on April 01, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
There's no point in me taking either side. I've never owned either.
You were probably born after they came out!!!
Bt
Quote from: Blackthorne on April 01, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
Quote from: GrahamRocks! on April 01, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
There's no point in me taking either side. I've never owned either.
You were probably born after they came out!!!
Bt
Hahaha...let's have a new question: How many were born during or after the Super Nintendo/Genesis era?
My preference of SNES probably also at least partly stems from the fact that I never personally owned a Genesis. Had several friends with them and I really enjoyed some of the titles, but the SNES was the first console I ever bought and owned with my own money so there's probably some nostalgia factoring in there.
And it has Super Metroid. And Link to the Past.
Quote from: Lambonius on April 01, 2013, 07:25:33 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on April 01, 2013, 06:22:43 PM
Quote from: GrahamRocks! on April 01, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
There's no point in me taking either side. I've never owned either.
You were probably born after they came out!!!
Bt
Ironically, I never owned either of those consoles, but my first gaming console (Computer and GBA aside) was an NES. And the reason I wanted one of those? Because all my best friends had one! Literally the only people who had an SNES PLUS an N64 (which I wanted so badly but I never got one because they were/are REALLY expensive!) I was born in '93.
Quote from: stika on April 01, 2013, 01:20:56 PM
nuh-huh, Sega Genesis is awesome!
Unless you realllly like Sonic. The SNES is better hardware wise.
And just in case you didn't see it the first times, Super Metroid!
Both systems had great games and obviously if you just love a specific game or series of games on one system that might drive you to pick that system over the other. From an overall perspective though, I'd have to say that the SNES had the superior hardware and library of games in my opinion. You have to feel somewhat bad for Sega though, they made some ahead of their time hardware with the Dreamcast and the Sega CD but just didn't quite hit the right time frame to put them on the market.
Quote from: Bludshot on April 01, 2013, 09:25:32 PM
Quote from: stika on April 01, 2013, 01:20:56 PM
nuh-huh, Sega Genesis is awesome!
Unless you realllly like Sonic. The SNES is better hardware wise.
And just in case you didn't see it the first times, Super Metroid!
I actually don't really like Sonic, to be honest.
And even hardware wise it is somewhat arguable. in terms of graphics and sounds the SNES was superior no doubt, but games on the Genesis would run much smoother.
Super Street Fighter 2 for example was much smoother on the Genesis as opposed to the SNES version which suffered from slowdown and the occasional input lag.
But that was nothing compared to the SNES infamous line of SHMUPS, many of them would slowdown to a crawl and even those that didn't were never quite as fluid as Thunder Force 3 or MUSHA
and while I think Super Metroid is an amazing game, it's still just one game.
And while the Genesis didn't have any games resembling Super Metroid, The snes didn't really have anything similar to say Herzog Zwei, which is a mix of a top down shooter and RTS and was in fact the game that inspired Westwood to create Dune 2, the father of the RTS genre
I had a Genesis, and it had Shining Force 1 and 2. And I really liked Sonic, mostly playing as Tails in Sonic 2.
So I'll vote Genesis!
Shining Force 2 was so amazing!
Also loved Shining in the Darkness
SEE ALSO: Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
SEE ALSO: Final Fantasy II (IV) and III (VI)
SEE ALSO: The Secret of Mana
SEE ALSO: Mario Kart
Bt
Crusader of Centy, Phantasy Star 2, Phantasy Star 4, Shining Force, Shining Force 2, Shadowrun, Pier Solar :P
And besides, that's just the RPG/action adventure. Where the Genesis really shined was on its Arcade and fast paced games.
I loved its SHMUPS.
Oh and I always though Contra and Castlevania for the Genesis was better than the SNES' but that's just me
I never finished SF2--probably because I was renting it and didn't own it. I should get an emulator or something and fix that at some point. :)
I just play as Ryu over and over :P
Quote from: Blackthorne on April 02, 2013, 07:40:44 AM
SEE ALSO: Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
SEE ALSO: Final Fantasy II (IV) and III (VI)
SEE ALSO: The Secret of Mana
SEE ALSO: Mario Kart
Bt
And ChronoTrigger, and Super Maro World, and Yoshi's Island, and Castlevania IV, and superior ports of PC first person shooters, and...
Quote from: Lambonius on April 02, 2013, 10:22:33 AM
Quote from: Blackthorne on April 02, 2013, 07:40:44 AM
SEE ALSO: Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
SEE ALSO: Final Fantasy II (IV) and III (VI)
SEE ALSO: The Secret of Mana
SEE ALSO: Mario Kart
Bt
And ChronoTrigger, and Super Maro World, and Yoshi's Island, and Castlevania IV, and superior ports of PC first person shooters, and...
Honestly, I always considered Castlevania IV as one of the weakest old school entries in the series, Castlevania Bloodlines for the Genesis, Rondo of Blood for the PC engine and Castlevania 3 for the NES are better in just about every way except graphics.
also: have you actually PLAYED Doom and Wolf 3D on the SNES? those versions are abominable to say the least
The other games are good, thank god the Genesis has better games 8)
Need I remind you that the SNES has, among other things...Blackthorne? :o
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/a/a3/Blackthorne_Cover.jpg)
That right there is what Blackthorne looks like in real life. And there's a game about him. The plot thickens...
ahem:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/Shadowrun_%281994%29_Coverart.png/235px-Shadowrun_%281994%29_Coverart.png)
Man, I've let myself go.
Heh.
A lot of good games being mentioned here.... nice call on Shadowrun.
I really love both systems.... but I definitely prefer the SNES. This is why I love emulators, though.... I have them all at my fingertips!
Bt
Both consoles were and are still amazing.
It's a shame that collecting for the SNES has become so expensive though
I'm now watching an LP of Shining Force and having flashbacks to some of my better middle school times. This was I think the first console video I finished entirely on my own! First RPG certainly. I was so into this game. :) It's relatively simple strategy mechanics were pretty much exactly at the level of detail I could appreciate--and honestly, I'd probably still happily prefer simple mechanics like that even now, hehe.
I dunno, I feel shining force 2 was better in every way :P
and I do love games like Fire Emblem for the GBA, I feel a nice variety is the best option. Oh by the way, did you know there's a shining force remake for the GBA, Katie?
I love the fact you guys are having a console-war over consoles that some here may not have even been old enough to play. :P It makes me very happy.
Quote from: darthkiwi on April 03, 2013, 11:18:16 AM
I love the fact you guys are having a console-war over consoles that some here may not have even been old enough to play. :P It makes me very happy.
Then this should make you positively giddy.
This was my first console:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/Atari-2600-Wood-4Sw-Set.jpg/800px-Atari-2600-Wood-4Sw-Set.jpg)
And for a few brief shining moments, I was the world record holder on Space Invaders.
Man was my hand tired.
mine was something similar to this:
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4126/dsc05680xb.jpg)
that and a 386 IBM PC
You had a Famicom, Stika?! *is jealous*
no no, not a famicom, a famiclone.
it was called family game 42-in-1 it had 42 nes games in it and it reads PAL NES games. I think my parents got it when it I was 4 years old, so 1991 probably
Wow, a Famicon.
But, a 386? Man, you're a baby.
(http://www.trs-80.com/images/computer-model1bx300.png)
Famiclone :P
and yeah, I was born in the mid-to-late 80's :P
I used to love the Atari 2600! And my first PC was an 8088 (though before that, we had an Atari 400).
Oh, the TRS-80 ("Trash 80" as some people called it) - we used those in high school.
really? according to their comic books the TRS 80 was better than the ipad and the PS4 put together:
(jump to 5:55)
Oh, my beloved Atari 2600. I had that... then we had an Intellivision too, for a while. My Dad worked for a Cable Company, and they gave us one with "PlayCable" to test. It was the first system you could "download" a game and play it! In 1982, that was amazing.
We got an Atari 7800 and NES a bit down the line.
My first PC, at home, was an 8088, too. I used Apple II's in school, and taught myself BASIC on those - as well as LOGO. Good times!
Bt
always wanted to play the AD&D games for the intellivision
I did play Tower of Doom on the Xbox 360's Game Room and that game was awesome
Quote from: darthkiwi on April 03, 2013, 11:18:16 AM
I love the fact you guys are having a console-war over consoles that some here may not have even been old enough to play. :P It makes me very happy.
Well this is essentially a fansite for a franchise that flourished in the early 90s. So there is some obvious overlap. :)
By the way, I'm disappointed with you SNES folk, you named so many SNES games but none of you named Actraiser?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ceVM4P7hSI4/Ta9bPDsxcqI/AAAAAAAAAEE/0nL5kEKwTy8/s1600/actraiser_snes.jpg)
what's wrong with you? :P
I love Actraiser! I play the hell out of that game at least once or twice a year, still. Hated that the sequel got rid of the sim stuff.
Bt
Indeed, the sequel while still a good game in its own right, is not as good a game because of it.
also a great Sega Genesis that no one mentioned:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Ranger_X.jpg/250px-Ranger_X.jpg)
love this game
another Sega Genesis I really love:
Shining in the Darkness.
(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/821/821702/ShiningInTheDarknessInline_1190322579.jpg)
if you ever played the old wizardry games for the PC this is the closest you're gonna get on the Genesis
I admit it. I'm cheesy. Here are my three favorite games on the SNES.
(http://www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/snes-boxes/snes-streetfighter2.jpg)
(http://superemulation.com/sites/superemulation.com/files/styles/large/public/covers/cover-snes-top-gear.jpg)
Note that the sequels to Top Gear were not nearly as good.
And, of course:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/The_Lost_Vikings_SNES_cover.jpg)
Those are all fine choices ;D
if I had to pick my three favorite genesis games they'd be:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ea/Contra_-_Hard_Corps_Coverart.png)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/Shadowrun_%281994%29_Coverart.png/235px-Shadowrun_%281994%29_Coverart.png)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/67/Phantasy_Star_EotM_cover.jpg/220px-Phantasy_Star_EotM_cover.jpg)
80s/early 90s sci-fi/fantasy cover art gives me a hard-on.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63vd5EW2I1qly8of.jpg)
Quote from: Lambonius on April 04, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
80s/early 90s sci-fi/fantasy cover art gives me a hard-on.
you should try playing them too 8)
Sounds like a good time for me to go back to playing The Lost Vikings. I'm not sure if I ever did finish the final level.
Passcode for it is MSTR, I'm almost certain.
I didn't own either when they came out, but I did play some in college, mostly SNES. I'm playing through Phantasy Star 1, so the Genesis games will be a while coming.
My top 3 so far:
(http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/208947-top-25-best-and-worst-snes-boxart/FFviBoxArt-620x.jpg)
(http://i2.listal.com/image/286280/600full-earthbound-cover.jpg)
(http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1038067836-00.jpg)
I never played Earthbound so I can't comment on it. But the other two are Fine choices:D
How are you liking Phantasy star 1 BTW?
All this talk, and no mention of the commodore 64? Someone had mentioned a 386. That was fast. I had the 286. When I read my old PC game requirements from the 80s and 90s, the system requirements seem so small.
I'm afraid the Commodore 64 was never THAT big in Europe, instead we had the ZX spectrum :P
Quote from: Big C from Cauney island on April 05, 2013, 10:09:14 PM
All this talk, and no mention of the commodore 64? Someone had mentioned a 386. That was fast. I had the 286. When I read my old PC game requirements from the 80s and 90s, the system requirements seem so small.
Yeah. Some of the Sierra games required an 8 MHz processor, and my 8088 could only do 7-something. When I got an 8 MHz 286, it was a huge improvement!
Quote from: stika on April 05, 2013, 07:01:35 AM
I never played Earthbound so I can't comment on it. But the other two are Fine choices:D
How are you liking Phantasy star 1 BTW?
You really should play Earthbound. It's got a really good sense of humor.
I like Phantasy Star 1 so far. I tend to get lost trying to find the next dungeon, but that helps in level grinding. It reminds me of Dragon Quest. I also like the fact the main character is a girl and the futuristic setting.
Phantasy Star 1 and 4 are my favorites.
I love the first person dungeons, because it gets me to draw maps :P
Me too! Have you played any of the Etrian Odyssey games? Drawing maps in a first person dungeon is the meat of the game!
Alas, I don't have a DS or a 3DS :(
but yeah, I've heard the games being described as Wizardry with lolis
and I do love me some Wizardry (lolis I could do without though :P)