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Title: Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on September 27, 2004, 04:12:50 PM
This thread is for discussing all the really really obscure games you've played. We're talking games so obscure, even the most experienced gamers look at you funny when you mention them, games that time forgot and Google never heard about (Ok, that's an exaggeration, but you get the drift).

Who knows? you might even find the one other person besides yourself who's heard about that game ;)

The first game in this dungeon is one I've mentioned here before - Kingdom O'Magic (http://www.cdmag.com/adventure_vault/kingdom_magic/page1.html). Sure, it has about 2,950 hits on Google, but no one around here even heard about it before I came up and saved the day by bringing it to everyone's attention :P

(http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/boxshots/8/197728_pc.jpg)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Shadowfax on September 27, 2004, 04:28:58 PM
*emerges from The What Are You Doing Thread (Part 2) and into Storm's thread*

Hmm, obscure games eh?

Tass Times In Tone Town?
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 27, 2004, 04:47:08 PM
Shadow of Destiny(also available for the PS2).
The PS2 version isn't too well known, but it's the PC version that's so obscure. It's also know as Shadow Of Memories. A great storyline, and multiple endings. It was good enough, to start a few fanfics.
(http://www.quandaryland.com/2003/pix2003/shadow5.jpg)

Heart of China
No idea if it's obscure or not, but I'd like someone to tell me if it is. :P

Companions of Xanth
It's obscure, but if you ever see the game, RUN!! !! !!

Well.... unless you can appreciate the game's strange sense of humor.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on September 27, 2004, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on September 27, 2004, 04:47:08 PMHeart of China
No idea if it's obscure or not, but I'd like someone to tell me if it is. :P

I've heard about it. Never seen it though :-\

Quote from: Louisiana Night on September 27, 2004, 04:47:08 PMCompanions of Xanth
It's obscure, but if you ever see the game, RUN!! !! !!

In which direction? ???
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 27, 2004, 05:32:27 PM
If nothing else, it was a great game due to having multiple endings(name a game with multiple endings, and I'm bound to like it).

If you want an idea of the game, go here(many spoilers in it though). It's supposed to have a link, to a place you can buy it from also.

SPOILERS/Info (http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/HeartOfChina/HeartOfChina.shtm)

QuoteIn which direction? ???

The opposite direction. :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on September 28, 2004, 03:43:14 PM
evidence

i used this game for the identify the screenshot thread. It was a nice game though, nothing really special  :-\
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: KatieHal on September 29, 2004, 11:17:18 AM
Septerra Core. Really slow battle scenes make it annoying.

Oh good lord! Companions of Xanth - ACK!! I was once upon a time a HUGE fan of Piers Anthony and his Xanth series (novels) until they steadily became the same thing over and over again. The game, based on the book Demons Don't Dream in particular, is terrible. I'm glad I never paid for it, yeesh. Anthony's books are decent when first reading them, but then they all involve some gorgeous girl, handsome guy, lame references to sex and huge boobs all the time, and in the end the good guys win predictably. He should've stopped that series a long time ago.

But yeah, Septerra Core is my addition to the list.  :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 29, 2004, 12:06:42 PM
I didn't think Septerra Core would be classified as an Adventure game, but I've played it also. Never finished it though....

*looks through stack of CDs*

Found it! ;D
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 01, 2004, 01:09:51 AM
wheee!! i have a comp game of MtG!!  :D :D ....if there was only one of SWccg  :-\ ...o, well at least i can play cards again... it can be mp, just don't know if it can only be played lan or if it's internet playable as well...
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 10:45:02 AM
I used to play a MtG PC game(the old one), didn't like the game too much(no multiplay). :-\
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 01, 2004, 02:44:50 PM
Ok, here's the score so far:


[td]Dungeon Nominee[/td][td]Google Hits[/td]
[tr][td]MtG PC game (http://www.pcgameworld.com/details.php/id/2391)[/td][td]29,200[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Septerra Core (http://www.valkyriestudios.com/scgame.htm)[/td][td]27,600[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Heart of China (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,164/)[/td][td]16,000[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Kingdom O'Magic (http://www.cdmag.com/adventure_vault/kingdom_magic/page1.html)[/td][td]2,950[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Companions of Xanth (http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/CompanionsXanth/CompanionsXanth.shtm)[/td][td]2,580[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Tass Times In Tone Town (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,4/gameId,90/)[/td][td]198[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Evidence: The Last Report[/td][td]135[/td][/tr]
[/table]

Evidence gets bonus point since I couldn't find a review for it, Tass Times In Tone Town gets bonus point for me not realizing it was a game title :P

The first three don't qualify as obscure... too many hits. The next two are still in the thousands, which is obviously too high for this place. The last two fit here perfectly! 8)

*Locks them in the Dungeon*
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 02:54:43 PM
Time to start digging thru boxes again. :P

P.S. Storm, you started a thread about obscure games, with a non-obscure game? ;P

EDIT: Sands of Egypt (a CoCo game (http://nitros9.stg.net/sandsofegypt.html))

ANOTHER EDIT: Mickey's Space Adventure (made by Roberta Williams, for all who care to know)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 01, 2004, 05:30:11 PM
whooo!! only 135 hits, not bad  :D

Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 10:45:02 AM
I used to play a MtG PC game(the old one), didn't like the game too much(no multiplay). :-\

the one I have does  :D, but I haven't tried it yet
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 01, 2004, 06:26:54 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 02:54:43 PMStorm, you started a thread about obscure games, with a non-obscure game? ;P

Ahh, but at the time I started the thread, this game was relatively obscure - When compared with the other games that were on the thread at the time ;)


Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 02:54:43 PMANOTHER EDIT: Mickey's Space Adventure (made by Roberta Williams, for all who care to know)

Heard about it... I think I tried downloading it once but it needed an emulator. Or is that "The Wizard And The Princess" I'm thinking about? :S
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 07:48:10 PM
QuoteHeard about it... I think I tried downloading it once but it needed an emulator. Or is that "The Wizard And The Princess" I'm thinking about? :S

They made a DOS version, but I've only played the CoCo version. :)

I doubt it's a game you'd want to play though. XD

me=under 6 years old, when I played it(I think) :P

EDIT: Using Google, The Sands of Time got 1,410 hits(most had nothing to do with games). Then I added "game" to the end, and got 608 hits, though most of those seem to be of the Windows game. :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 01, 2004, 08:41:36 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 07:48:10 PM
QuoteHeard about it... I think I tried downloading it once but it needed an emulator. Or is that "The Wizard And The Princess" I'm thinking about? :S

They made a DOS version, but I've only played the CoCo version. :)

Eh, that paragraph is referring to the other game you've mentioned :-\

Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 07:48:10 PM
EDIT: Using Google, The Sands of Time got 1,410 hits(most had nothing to do with games). Then I added "game" to the end, and got 608 hits, though most of those seem to be of the Windows game. :P

Funny, I got 140,000 results for "the sands of time" +game on Google... maybe because it's the Prince of Persia sequel ;)

"Sands of Egypt" +DOS got only 65 results... But "Sands of Egypt" +atari got 399, and "Sands of Egypt" +atari OR datasoft got 444. The game seems to be more popular in the Atari version ;)

Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 09:48:09 PM
QuoteEh, that paragraph is referring to the other game you've mentioned :-\

I didn't know they ported the game to DOS, I thought it was only made for the Color Computer(Sands of Egypt). :-\

Quotebecause it's the Prince of Persia sequel

I've been wanting to play that game(not too sure why), and now it's overtaking my mind! :P

P.S. I posted one, that made it onto the list! !!!
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Shadowfax on October 02, 2004, 11:09:17 AM
Oh yeah! I am good at my obscure games!

BTW, has anyone else played Tass Times in Tone Town (that Captain Snarl is a pain in the backside during the early stages!)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 05, 2004, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 01, 2004, 09:48:09 PM
QuoteEh, that paragraph is referring to the other game you've mentioned :-\

I didn't know they ported the game to DOS, I thought it was only made for the Color Computer(Sands of Egypt). :-\

Sorry, I thought you meant only Sands of Egypt was for Coco, and I was referring to Mickey's Space Adventure :-\

Quote from: Shadowfax on October 02, 2004, 11:09:17 AMBTW, has anyone else played Tass Times in Tone Town (that Captain Snarl is a pain in the backside during the early stages!)

From its location on the list, I'm pretty sure the answer is 'No' ;)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 05, 2004, 10:41:17 PM
Another obscure game. :)

Lancelot

Since neither "dos" nor "game" gave decent results(few were about the game), I added "Level 9 Computing" to it. Then I added "datasoft" to it. Both gave under 100 results.

Knight Orc is another one, that seems better known(odd, considering it's a text game).
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: KatieHal on October 06, 2004, 08:45:17 AM
"Lost In Time" the one made by Sierra & someone else, seems a bit more obscure than some games of theirs. Also, I played "Gold Rush!" which I hear very little about from the fans.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 06, 2004, 12:35:03 PM
lol, yeah, gold rush.... I never played it enough ....iirc I never left town  :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: KatieHal on October 07, 2004, 11:12:58 AM
I left town, but never got far after that. If i took the wagon train, as soon as we hit the "west" I got dropped in a desert and then it killed me like five seconds later. WTF! It would always tell me I'd forgotten something very important when I left (and it was too late to get whatever it was), and I still have no idea what I forgot there.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 07, 2004, 02:38:34 PM
I've heard about "Knight Orc", "Lost in Time" and "Gold Rush!", even tried playing "Knight Orc" once. "Lancelot" I only know from the "Identify The Screenshot" thread.

lancelot datasoft OR "level 9 computing" got 344 results,
lancelot game datasoft OR "level 9" OR amiga got 1,770.
"Knight Orc" got 2,560.
Results for "Gold Rush!" and "Lost in Time" were in the thousands... Sierra games can't be truly obscure thanks to all the Sierra adventures fans out there ;)

Funny useless fact:
Google for king quest - the first result is www.kq9.org.
Google for king quest sierra - the first result is www.agdinteractive.com, and kq9.org isn't even on the first page. Or the second page. Or the third. I didn't bother looking any further... it's somewhere in there, though.

So...


Dungeon NomineeGoogle Hits
Lost In Time (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,1987/)29,500
MtG PC game (http://www.pcgameworld.com/details.php/id/2391)29,200
Septerra Core (http://www.valkyriestudios.com/scgame.htm)27,600
Gold Rush! (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,440/)16,800
Heart of China (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,164/)16,000
Kingdom O'Magic (http://www.cdmag.com/adventure_vault/kingdom_magic/page1.html)2,950
Companions of Xanth (http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/CompanionsXanth/CompanionsXanth.shtm)2,580
Knight Orc (http://www.joltcountry.com/kohp/main.htm)2,560
Lancelot (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,7307/)1,770
Mickey's Space Adventure (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/gameId,7273/)707
Sands of Egypt (http://nitros9.stg.net/sandsofegypt.html)399
Tass Times In Tone Town (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,4/gameId,90/)198
Evidence: The Last Report135

No new low score so far... but we can consider games with less than 200 hits, and games with less than 500 hits and no reference in mobygames obscure enough for The Dungeon. According to this, Sands of Egypt qualify for a cell in The Dungeon.

*Locks it in*

If anyone wishes to chanllenge these terms, they're most welome to do so 8)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 07, 2004, 02:53:47 PM
how about eco quest? ....isn't that a sierra game too?

/me thinks it is cool that his game is still on top... ehhm, bottom  :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 07, 2004, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: Storm on October 01, 2004, 02:44:50 PMEvidence gets bonus point since I couldn't find a review for it.

I just realized this statement is a bit misleading. What I meant was, I couldn't find an English description for it. Here's a translated description (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.internetbookshop.it/vg/ser/serdsp.asp%3Fshop%3D1%26c%3D3342187776406&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Evidence%2Bthe%2Blast%2Breport%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall) for the game.

Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 07, 2004, 03:03:49 PM
Quote from: B'rrr on October 07, 2004, 02:53:47 PM
how about eco quest? ....isn't that a sierra game too?

Yes it is (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,2/gameId,584/). I only got about 1,550 hits for it, but it's by no means obscure (especially not around here) ;)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Akril on October 08, 2004, 11:00:10 PM
Pepper's Adventures in Time is a pretty obscure Sierra game...it was released the same year as Day of the Tentacle (LucasArts), and it's uncannily similar to it in several ways...PAIT got 1,270 hits on Google.

Mixed-Up Fairy Tales (not to be confused with Mixed-Up Mother Goose) got 751 hits.


Akril

Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 09, 2004, 12:49:13 AM
hero's quest!!  :D ....I knew the boardgame (played it when I was young) but I've found a computergame of it  :P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 09, 2004, 12:16:55 PM
I've played Pepper's Adventures in Time. Weird game. :P

I think I've thought of another obscure game.

Spider-Man: The Sinister Six

not to be confused with Spiderman2: The Sinister Six

It's action/adventure, but it lets you decide which part to emphasize. :)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 12, 2004, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 09, 2004, 12:16:55 PMSpider-Man: The Sinister Six

not to be confused with Spiderman2: The Sinister Six

Heavens forbid!! :P
But with only 74 hits, that game is either seriously obscure, or a spelling mistake ;)

Quote from: B'rrr on October 09, 2004, 12:49:13 AM
hero's quest!!  :D ....I knew the boardgame (played it when I was young) but I've found a computergame of it  :P

I've only heard of this game because of the Quest for Glory thing... but it's RPG, and not really obscure -
"hero quest" RPG -sierra -glory got 2,550 hits :-\
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 12, 2004, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: Storm on October 12, 2004, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 09, 2004, 12:16:55 PMSpider-Man: The Sinister Six

not to be confused with Spiderman2: The Sinister Six

Heavens forbid!! :P
But with only 74 hits, that game is either seriously obscure, or a spelling mistake ;)

Spiderman2: The Sinister Six=PSX action game

Spider-Man: The Sinister Six(exact name)=PC action/adventure game(the few that have played it, don't think much of it)

One thing you've got to give it though, when you set the puzzle difficulty to hard, that's exactly what you get(only about half make sense to me :P )

Does that mean I've named the most obscure  game? :D :P

P.S. What did you type in, to get 75? ???
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: B'rrr on October 13, 2004, 01:25:41 AM
Quote from: Storm on October 12, 2004, 03:41:58 PM
Quote from: B'rrr on October 09, 2004, 12:49:13 AM
hero's quest!!  :D ....I knew the boardgame (played it when I was young) but I've found a computergame of it  :P

I've only heard of this game because of the Quest for Glory thing... but it's RPG, and not really obscure -
"hero quest" RPG -sierra -glory got 2,550 hits :-\

actually it was Hero Quest from Gremlin, and it is neither a RPG nor adventure, it's a strategy board game  :S
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 13, 2004, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 12, 2004, 08:07:20 PMDoes that mean I've named the most obscure  game? :D :P

P.S. What did you type in, to get 75? ???

I typed "spiderman the sinister six" game... the result may not be very accurate due to similarities to other games and comics, and to people not using the subtitle. But going by this result, it's the most obscure game to date ;)

BTW, what company is it from? ???
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 13, 2004, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: B'rrr on October 13, 2004, 01:25:41 AMactually it was Hero Quest from Gremlin, and it is neither a RPG nor adventure, it's a strategy board game  :S

I assumed you're referring to this Hero Quest game. You're right about it being a board game, but some places describe it as an RPG :-\
Anyways, if I remove "RPG" from the search, it gets even more hits... narrowing it with
"hero quest" board-game PC OR atari -sierra -glory still gets over 2,000 hits.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 12:24:39 PM
Quote from: Storm on October 13, 2004, 11:55:57 AM
BTW, what company is it from? ???

*looks at CD case*

Byron Preiss Multimedia :P

under the imprint Brooklyn Multimedia

They also made the games(which are probably more obscure):
Robot City
Ray Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles
Private Eye

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Another obscure game.

Chrono Quest

Taken from zerog's screenshot :)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 13, 2004, 05:44:21 PM
Alright...

spiderman "Byron Preiss" - 377 hits
"The Martian Chronicles" PC - 3,330 hits
"robot city" PC game - 1,280 hits
"private eye" "Byron Preiss" - 441 hits

From what I've seen, Byron Preiss is pretty notorious for making crappy games :-\

QuoteThe Sinister Six is a thoroughly bad adventure game adaptation of the hit Spider-Man franchise. Following the plot of the comic book of the same name, the gameplay is straightforward: choose what you want to do next from a menu of multiple choices, and follow to the next screen where you will play one of the extremely simple mouse-driven mini arcade games. Some are so simple, in fact, that you can complete them without really knowing what you are doing.
Despite decent cartoony graphics and an okay plot, the gameplay is so laughably simple and easy that the 'game' portion is almost nonexistent. In contrast to the much better Spider-Man game years later by Activision based on the hit movie, this Byron Preiss game turns a blockbuster franchise into a horrible game that poses no challenge and offers no fun whatsoever...
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 13, 2004, 05:46:20 PM
Oh, and

Chrono Quest - 891 hits
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 05:54:09 PM
It's been knocked down to 3rd place. :'( :P

I'll agree with everything they said about the Spider-Man game....when it's two difficulty settings are set to easy(one for combat, the other for puzzles). ;P
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Storm on October 13, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 05:54:09 PM
It's been knocked down to 3rd place. :'( :P

There are places? ???

Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 05:54:09 PMI'll agree with everything they said about the Spider-Man game....when it's two difficulty settings are set to easy(one for combat, the other for puzzles). ;P

And when it's set to hard? I've read in some places that the hard setting isn't really all that hard :-\
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Storm on October 13, 2004, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on October 13, 2004, 05:54:09 PMI'll agree with everything they said about the Spider-Man game....when it's two difficulty settings are set to easy(one for combat, the other for puzzles). ;P

And when it's set to hard? I've read in some places that the hard setting isn't really all that hard :-\


Puzzles

It's hard, but not for good reasons. :-\

Either they were easy, or there was almost no clue to what you were expected to do. :(

It had a hint system, so if you wanted to, you could finish the game without solving a single puzzle(I had to use a hint, on one or two of them). :P
------------------------------------------------------------

Combat

If you're not any good at action games, it's hard(but about a third of them, can still be finished by random movement). If you're good at action games, it's easy.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Plot(no, there's not a difficulty setting for it :P )

*spoiler*

Something I liked about the game, is that you had to make a decision at the end, which results in two possible endings. Both have bad results(which, considering the endings, I thought was one of the best parts of the game). As for the story itself, it did have one or two spots in it, that surprised me(a villian switches sides). All in all though, the plot had very little depth(but what do you expect, from a Spider-Man game?).
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Oldbushie on November 09, 2004, 07:04:56 PM
*replies to beginning*

I saw Kingdom O Magic in a store once but I was too young at the time to buy it. ;)
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Moodyblues on November 29, 2004, 11:42:02 PM
Hmm... I thought Sanitarium was fairly obscure, but it got 7,400 hits.  Very good game, though.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Oldbushie on December 06, 2004, 12:36:57 AM
Sanitarium? That was the one with the guy who was trapped in a Sanitarium and various other places right?

That game was *surreal*. :o Even for my tastes... :o
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Moodyblues on December 07, 2004, 07:24:45 PM
Yeah, that's the one!  Just finished it not too long ago; it has a fantastic ending.
Title: Re:Dungeons Of Obscurity
Post by: Oldbushie on January 01, 2005, 05:05:41 PM
Yay! I found Kingom O' Magic for $12! ;D

The manual is defintely funny. :)