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Title: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: simplywrite on November 27, 2004, 10:45:16 AM
I tend to think that 5 was the best. The worst to me was when they went Disney in 6 (I think it was 6). Whatever happened to 8? I think it was supposed to be 3D.

Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Louisiana Night on November 27, 2004, 11:23:05 AM
KQ7 was the "cartoony" one.

The 8th KQ game, Mask of Eternity, was 3D(it was the only action/adventure Kings Quest game).

Information about all the KQ games can be found here (http://www.postudios.com/archivedTSL/library/)  8)
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: simplywrite on November 27, 2004, 12:03:37 PM
Sorry for coming off as ignorant, it's been awhile since I actually thought of these games especially since the last time I tried to play them I had to change over my PC to 98.

I know there's another website where they redid the first three KQ's. Know the link?
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Say on November 27, 2004, 12:16:10 PM
Welcome to kq9 forum simplywrite, hope you enjoy it around here! :)


Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Storm on December 02, 2004, 04:33:47 PM
Welcome to the forum, Simplywrite!! ;D

Quote from: simplywrite on November 27, 2004, 12:03:37 PMI know there's another website where they redid the first three KQ's. Know the link?

You must mean www.agdinteractive.com ;)
But they only re-made the first two, at least for now 8)
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: dew7 on December 02, 2004, 11:18:07 PM
Favorite KQ was KQ6 -- point and click interface done well -- different islands to travel to -- lots of fun

Worst KQ was KQ8 -- not a true KQ in my opinion and it was too dark -- reminds one of a Doom type game
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Ryan Yoo on December 03, 2004, 11:59:44 AM
The worst KQ I've played was KQ7.  I felt the puzzles were very nonsensical, I didn't like the streamlined interface.  The voice acting wasn't too hot either for the most part.  I didn't mind the art sytle itself but it was such a jarring change from the previous games I think it worked against it.

My favourite is porably KQ6, it had a great story, great music, graphics (for its time, but the style holds up)
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Storm on December 04, 2004, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan Yoo on December 03, 2004, 11:59:44 AM
The worst KQ I've played was KQ7.  I felt the puzzles were very nonsensical, I didn't like the streamlined interface.  The voice acting wasn't too hot either for the most part.  I didn't mind the art sytle itself but it was such a jarring change from the previous games I think it worked against it.

I take you never played MOE ::)
Before MOE came out, I would have said the same thing (except for the voice acting).
But right now it's

Worst - MOE
Best - KQ6
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Oldbushie on December 05, 2004, 11:13:12 PM
Worst: MOE
Best: 3,5,6
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Ryan Yoo on December 16, 2004, 11:24:59 PM
In response to Storm, I played MOE about 10 minutes at a Radio Shack on their store computers.  I remember thinking how clumsy the combat was (but then I had no idea how to actually play the game).  The fact that there was combat in a KQ game kind of turned me off as well.  However I can't say I've played it enough to properly judge it.

As for the KQ7 acting, it's been years since I've played it, but I remember Valenice being very whiny and Rosella sounding too 'valley girl' for my liking.  I think she was ready to start going all 'as if!' on us.  Some of the other acting was okay as I remember.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: icarus on January 21, 2005, 01:07:26 PM
the wort king's quest is 8 not dificult puzels and 2 mutch fighting for me
the best is a dificult one i like 6 and 7 very mutch
but if i must choose it would be 6



Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: uselessidguy331 on January 22, 2005, 01:42:29 PM
The best of all, in my opinion, is the KQ 2 VGA remake...the plot is so much stronger than the original, everything comes together well.
Other good ones:
-KQ4
-KQ5
-KQ7

And yes, the ugly:
-KQ2 (original)
-KQ8

Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Oldbushie on July 14, 2005, 07:49:54 AM
The very best is still KQ9 of course.  :D

I can't wait to see the magic animals in action.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 14, 2005, 02:07:39 PM

*** Shakes head at OB's old thread revival spree ;P
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Shadowfax on July 14, 2005, 02:20:49 PM
Magic animals? (I know of one that will be in the game...the...err...whatsitcalled..."dangling participle"...errr...you know "Take me home to...")?

My fave was the one that introduced me to adventure games as a whole back in 1994; KQ VI  ;D

...hopefully KQ IX will reignite that old "fuzzy" feeling that I can only get whilst playing games I haven't played in centuries! :)

(in a very, very, very tiny voice...)
("maybe even my KQ IX project will exceed all expectations...")  ;)

*Flees the forum in a flurry of old notepapers as the moderators close in on his secret canvassing...*
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: edgarnick on July 29, 2005, 03:39:00 PM
The best ones for me where KQ7 and KQ6, although i like 3-D intro i only have the floppy disk MS-DOS version. Never the less I think the worst was MoE, too bad graphics (triangle splashes of water) and the music in Daventry scared me.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: edgarnick on July 29, 2005, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: Shadowfax on July 14, 2005, 02:20:49 PM
Magic animals? (I know of one that will be in the game...the...err...whatsitcalled..."dangling participle"...errr...you know "Take me home to...")?

My fave was the one that introduced me to adventure games as a whole back in 1994; KQ VI  ;D

...hopefully KQ IX will reignite that old "fuzzy" feeling that I can only get whilst playing games I haven't played in centuries! :)

(in a very, very, very tiny voice...)
("maybe even my KQ IX project will exceed all expectations...")  ;)

*Flees the forum in a flurry of old notepapers as the moderators close in on his secret canvassing...*

It was actually 1992 KQVI come out.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: MangoMercury on July 30, 2005, 02:17:38 AM
My best, like many people, was KQ6 (I love KQ7, but it's being annoying for me right now).  If I'm to consider it a KQ, MoE is my worst, but other than that, prolly 5.  I will retry playing it, but it was just far too slow-paced and Graham bugged me.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: daventry on July 30, 2005, 06:46:01 AM
My first and best KQ, was KQ6 :'(

The most hated one, was KQ8

I liked all the other KQ's, but now my next favourites are KQ1VGA & KQ2VGA from AGDI

http://www.infamous-adventures.com are making KQ3VGA

This person was making KQ4VGA, but he got too much work and now the project is an halt. http://www.nancycarterdesign.com/spongefactory
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 06:46:01 AM
I liked all the other KQ's, but now my next favourites are KQ1VGA & KQ2VGA from AGDI
I agree.  After KQ6, my next two favourites are KQ2VGA and KQ1VGA.  They're technically not part of the actual series, but they're way better than the Sierra originals. ;D
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 06:46:01 AM
I liked all the other KQ's, but now my next favourites are KQ1VGA & KQ2VGA from AGDI
I agree.  After KQ6, my next two favourites are KQ2VGA and KQ1VGA.  They're technically not part of the actual series, but they're way better than the Sierra originals. ;D


Beware of your blasphemous statements, we know where you live! *gathers an angry KQ mob* XD :D
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Allert van der Leij on July 30, 2005, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 12:47:58 PM
Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 06:46:01 AM
I liked all the other KQ's, but now my next favourites are KQ1VGA & KQ2VGA from AGDI
I agree.  After KQ6, my next two favourites are KQ2VGA and KQ1VGA.  They're technically not part of the actual series, but they're way better than the Sierra originals. ;D

lets pretend I didn't hear that lol...

omg Neil.. how in the *peep* did you get drawn to work on kq9 then hahaha XD. As a huge kq3 fan (up till the part where you have to get on the ship at the tavern, cuz it always crashed on my 8088 back in the days... never got to finish it, maybe that's why its my favorite) I feel a bit disappointed by you Neil :P damn... putting agdi's games above Sierra's lol.. tsk tsk *slaps Neil
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 02:24:45 PM
Har, didn't you know - Neil is a spy from AGDI sent to spy on the KQIX project! XD

J/K, but seriously, feels good to know that *somebody* else out there doesn't regard AGDI's remakes as better than the originals. I still have nightmares about the voicepacks  :-X

high fives Allert :D
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 04:04:32 PM
You guys like the original KQ2?  Its plot barely made sense... XD  Not to mention the graphics... ::)

I've never played KQ3 or completed KQ4 and KQ5 had too many dead-ends (and horrid voice acting ;P).  KQ7 was ok, but the whole cartoon thing isn't my style, and of course MoE is not even in my ranking.

So yup my top three are: KQ6, KQ2VGA, KQ1VGA.  ;D
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Farquhar on July 30, 2005, 04:25:20 PM
In my opinion, I'd have to say that KQ6 is the best, while KQ3 is my least favorite. I haven't gotten around to trying the remakes of 1 & 2 yet.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: daventry on July 30, 2005, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 04:04:32 PM
You guys like the original KQ2?  Its plot barely made sense... XD  Not to mention the graphics... ::)

90% of the plot did made sence, but 5% did not.

A guy named Wookie from AGDI decided to create a character with his own storyline, that did not make sence at all.

The cursing at the end of the game was good enough, but the Father needs Graham's Crown to look for some item so that he can be more powerful then Leginemor.

So why he is part of the Black Cloak, is beyond me.

The Father does not get killed, he wont return in KQ3VGA or KQ9, but Graham said that he will find out who the man is and The Father said at the second Cloud Test that he forsees that he and Graham will meet again.

http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9064
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 06:05:42 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 04:04:32 PM
You guys like the original KQ2?  Its plot barely made sense... XD  Not to mention the graphics... ::)

I've never played KQ3 or completed KQ4 and KQ5 had too many dead-ends (and horrid voice acting ;P).  KQ7 was ok, but the whole cartoon thing isn't my style, and of course MoE is not even in my ranking.

So yup my top three are: KQ6, KQ2VGA, KQ1VGA.  ;D


I think the important thing to remember is that, you can always improve something, but that's not always what everybody wants, and not regarded as an improvement by everybody. It's just like the Star Wars Special Edition issue, some loved it, some hated it, because it altered the thing they had come to love so much beyond what they felt was reasonable recognition. It's the same with the early KQ's because, I've come to love them just as they were and are, that includes the graphics and everything else. You know, back then they were good! And they still are just as good to me, because it's how I remember them, it's what I grew up with, so AGDI's remakes are fun, but they're not even in the same league as the originals, not even.  ::)
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Lollotte on July 30, 2005, 08:10:22 PM
I know a guy who completed the original KQI (the all-text version) and he got a certificate from Sierra and has it  framed on his wall. Apparently, he is one of very few.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 08:13:01 PM
Quote from: Lollotte on July 30, 2005, 08:10:22 PM
I know a guy who completed the original KQI (the all-text version) and he got a certificate from Sierra and has it  framed on his wall. Apparently, he is one of very few.

There was an all text version of KQ1? Uhm. News to me! Or I just forgot, I have such a bad memory. Anyone care to fill me in about it? :P
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Lollotte on July 30, 2005, 08:24:26 PM
Yeah. It's supposed to be really hard, and it was the original KQI, before it was redone/animated. Since you couldn't see anything, you had to type all your commands and read all the responses very closely.

Example:

KQ: You are in a cave. There are several big boulders in the left corner, and a stick to the side. the ground has caved in slightly.

You: Pick up the stick.

KQ: Graham has taken the stick.
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 08:34:28 PM

Quote
1st Release (1983, IBM PCjr) - The original IBM-branded release for the PCjr. Came with a full keyboard overlay template.

2nd Release (1984, IBM PCjr) - A minor update to the original packaging. Includes a smaller function key template.

3rd Release (1984, Tandy) - A release repackaged for the Tandy 1000.

4rd Release (1984, PC,Apple,Amiga,Atari) - A set of ports for IBM PCs, Apple, Amiga and Atari computers.

5th Release (1987, PC) - A full re-release adding support for the Enhanced Graphics Adaptor (EGA). Ran under DOS, unlike the 1983-1984 releases, which booted directly at startup.

6th Release (1990, PC) - This release is the "Enhanced" version of King's Quest. It uses the Sierra Creative Interpreter (SCI) engine, the same engine used in titles such as King's Quest IV; while it still used 16-color graphics, it featured twice the resolution as well as music card support instead of the PC speaker. There are two different box variations for this release.

As found on Wikipedia.. :P

I also searched around otherwhere, but I can't seem to find anything on an All-Text version of King's Quest..  :-\

Maybe your friend is pulling your leg?  :D
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Lollotte on July 30, 2005, 08:44:19 PM
Nope. It was eliminated awhile ago. Apparently no one wants to play anything that is text-only anymore. It definitely won't run on today's computers anyways.

My dad played the all-text version; he couldn't finish it.   :P
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 05:24:02 PM
A guy named Wookie from AGDI decided to create a character with his own storyline, that did not make sence at all.
Yes.  That part of KQ2VGA I didn't like, and there's even a thread somewhere where I kept asking Erpy about why they introduced a new loose end when they're not planning on continuing it.

Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 05:24:02 PM
The cursing at the end of the game was good enough, but the Father needs Graham's Crown to look for some item so that he can be more powerful then Leginemor.
I agree, someone that can fly and time-travel needs to be given the crown? ::) I think they could have rethought that a bit better.

Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 05:24:02 PM
So why he is part of the Black Cloak, is beyond me.
I think it was just to make him seem like the supervillain controlling everything evil in that game, and future KQ games since the Black Cloak Society is part of the official series

Quote from: daventry on July 30, 2005, 05:24:02 PM
The Father does not get killed, he wont return in KQ3VGA or KQ9, but Graham said that he will find out who the man is and The Father said at the second Cloud Test that he forsees that he and Graham will meet again.
They did meet again... at the end of the game. :P  Since they're not doing a KQ3VGA and "The Father" isn't part of our plot, he won't be returning again. ;P

Quote from: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 06:05:42 PM
I think the important thing to remember is that, you can always improve something, but that's not always what everybody wants, and not regarded as an improvement by everybody. It's just like the Star Wars Special Edition issue, some loved it, some hated it, because it altered the thing they had come to love so much beyond what they felt was reasonable recognition.
I agree, and I wasn't wanting them to remake it either.  I just happened to visit their site one day and got a pleasant surprise!  It's not as if I'd ever play the original KQ1 or KQ2 these days anyway, so once I found out that KQ1VGA was 1:1 remake (plot-wise) I figured I'd try it.  KQ2 was more of a treasure hunt than a game, and the original plot didn't make much sense.  AGDI acknoledged this and remade this game with a more fleshed-out plot.  For those reasons, I prefer them to the originals.  Of course, had they done a horrible job, I wouldn't even consider them. :P

Anyway, I know there are purists out there that believe nothing can top originals.  Usually I agree with that, but since I didn't like the originals to begin with and I found these to be a great improvement, they rank #2 and #3 in my list. :)
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Warlock on July 30, 2005, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: Lollotte on July 30, 2005, 08:44:19 PM
Nope. It was eliminated awhile ago. Apparently no one wants to play anything that is text-only anymore. It definitely won't run on today's computers anyways.

My dad played the all-text version; he couldn't finish it.   :P

Maybe it was a beta never-released version? Or maybe someone ported King's Quest into a text adventure, because nowhere does it say anything about one.. ;P
Title: Re:Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Louisiana Night on July 31, 2005, 12:47:07 AM
Some fans made a text-only version of a KQ game, but I dont think it was KQ1(KQ5?)... though it might have been(Storm posted a link a while back).

EDIT:
Kings Quest V: the text adventure (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1011;start=msg107911#msg107911)
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Storm on August 16, 2005, 07:50:34 PM
I'm pretty sure there was no text-only version of KQ1 released by Sierra. The only 'pure' text adventure they ever published was SoftPorn Adventure - the rest of their text adventures had pictures. Besides, KQ1 was originally created to showcase the graphical abilities of IBM's new PCjr. Making a text version of it first would have been a bit redundant :-\


Quote from: Yonkey on July 30, 2005, 08:44:28 PM
Someone that can fly and time-travel needs to be given the crown? ::) I think they could have rethought that a bit better.

Er, where exactly does he fly or time-travel? ??? I mean, he levitates a bit at the end but that's it :S
And maybe the crown is one of those magical things that can't be taken, only given... a good plotwriter can fill any hole ;)
You're right about KQ2+ leaving the fans hanging though. Maybe Wookie did that on purpose, so they'll have to hire him if they ever re-made KQ3 ;)
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Yonkey on August 17, 2005, 08:48:30 AM
Yeah, I meant the levitation thing at the end. :P  And by time-travel, I meant when he appeared in one of the dream tests.  Actually... he didn't even really time-travel, he was just alive in the future. XD
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Amayirot Akago on August 22, 2005, 01:43:09 AM
Favourite: King's Quest VI. The only KQ that is truly epic IMO. Great story, great characters, great voice acting, great graphics, great music, great EVERYTHING!

...just the death scenes with the Lord of the Dead scare the crap of me. Alexander gone all skeletonized, as well as that freaky rendition of the death music... geh.

Worst IMO was KQV. Dead ends, unexpected deaths, and atrocious voice acting. Even so, it still made a decent game. MOE doesn't count as a KQ game IMO, otherwise that one (despite being a decent action/adventure) would be my pick.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: KingGraham on August 30, 2005, 02:50:36 PM
KQ 6 was by far the best King's Quest game. The story, the character, and the graphics were all very good.  ;D

Of course, if you count it as a KQ game, MoE was the worst. If you don't, the worst one (comparitively) was KQ5. :stupid:
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Rosedragon on September 08, 2005, 07:24:34 AM
If MOE counts as a king's quest game, then it is the worst. My favorite is KQ7 and KQ6. I like KQ7 and think it is a good game despite the fact that most KQ fans don't like it. I find the cartoony graphics beautiful, Etheria was simply gorgeous. It was a lot easier, but that made it easier for me to finish, I have some trouble with hard puzzles.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: edgarnick on September 08, 2005, 08:46:09 AM
I agree with Rosedragon the graphics where excellent in KQ7, althouh i wondered into the desert and couldn't find the salt pond again.  :P
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Moodyblues on September 10, 2005, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Amayirot Akago on August 22, 2005, 01:43:09 AM
...just the death scenes with the Lord of the Dead scare the crap of me. Alexander gone all skeletonized, as well as that freaky rendition of the death music... geh.


*jibblyjibblyjibbly* :dead:  The death scenes scare the heck out of me in any game, but that one... *shudder*

Yeah, KQ6 is the best.  It had lovely graphics, talented voice acting, mostly sensible puzzles, and a good plot!

I didn't care for KQ5 - too many dead ends.  And don't even get me started on that maze...  >:(  It did, however, have very nice graphics.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: racx_00 on September 10, 2005, 06:38:16 PM
Quote from: Moodyblues on September 10, 2005, 06:09:48 PM
*jibblyjibblyjibbly* :dead:  The death scenes scare the heck out of me in any game, but that one... *shudder*

Yeah, KQ6 is the best.  It had lovely graphics, talented voice acting, mostly sensible puzzles, and a good plot!

I didn't care for KQ5 - too many dead ends.  And don't even get me started on that maze...  >:(  It did, however, have very nice graphics.
KQ6 is indeed the best so far IMO, followed closely by KQ5, KQ3 and KQ7 XD

And I actually never had any troubles in the maze XD

The worst IMO is probably KQ1 closely followed by KQ2
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: awesomeasapossum on September 22, 2005, 07:09:54 PM
I liked KQ6, 5, 3, and 7. KQ1 was good and so was KQ2. I haven't played 4 yet.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Deloria on September 24, 2005, 07:29:08 PM
So you finished KQ7? I thought it was the best.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: zac353 on October 02, 2005, 08:50:41 PM
I would have to say the Best was KQ5... I loved the Storyline and the Puzzles, and I liked the Innovative (for back then) Graphics and music, and also it's the last game you get to play as as Graham (besides KQ9 but that's not out yet). The worst would have to be... KQ2.. not a very Explained Storyling and not a big improvement of Graphics..
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Deloria on October 14, 2005, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Moodyblues on September 10, 2005, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: Amayirot Akago on August 22, 2005, 01:43:09 AM
...just the death scenes with the Lord of the Dead scare the crap of me. Alexander gone all skeletonized, as well as that freaky rendition of the death music... geh.


*jibblyjibblyjibbly* :dead:  The death scenes scare the heck out of me in any game, but that one... *shudder*

Yeah, KQ6 is the best.  It had lovely graphics, talented voice acting, mostly sensible puzzles, and a good plot!

I didn't care for KQ5 - too many dead ends.  And don't even get me started on that maze...  >:(  It did, however, have very nice graphics.

Which maze? Mordack's? The desert? (Yes, I still think of the desert as a maze   :P) If you mean Mordacks, that was somewhat tough in the beginning, then it got easier because I had a map and a compass, when you click the 'eye' outside of the screen.
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: awesomeasapossum on October 15, 2005, 06:35:41 AM
Quote from: Deloria on September 24, 2005, 07:29:08 PM
So you finished KQ7? I thought it was the best.

Well.. not exactly I'm still in ooga booga land, BUT combined with what I have played so far and what I remember of my mom playing it I know that it is one of the best. I should probably get back to it...
umm go KQ!!!!
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Gilgamesh on October 15, 2005, 12:33:51 PM
For me I haven't seen my best KQ yet.
But till now I like the way you have to fight in MOE, but the puzzles aren't so good.
In KQ 6 & 7 the puzzels are better, but fighting an enemy is no problem there.
One hit by the ememie and you will died as in MOE you will survife a few hits.

But I also have a worst that is KQ 3.
The only one that I have played longer is MOE
I don't like it because of the mountoun of eternal doom :devil:
Title: Re: Best Worst KQ?
Post by: Deloria on November 09, 2005, 01:48:59 PM
There is no fighting in KQ7. The only bit of fighting in KQ6 is at the end and there you don't have cursor control so it's just a sequence.