Phoenix Online Studios is proud to announce that Vivendi Universal Games has granted us with a license to continue development on the KQIX project. As part of the agreement, the name of the game will change from "King's Quest IX: Every Cloak Has A Silver Lining" to "The Silver Lining". Further details can be found on the Home (http://www.tsl-game.com/) page.
We would like to thank all of you, as well as the SaveKQIX.org (http://www.savekqix.org) team for your continued support during this time. The Silver Lining would not exist without you. It means a great deal to us in having such a strong community supporting us all the way. :)
I'm glad to hear that it's back! I knew if we were persistant enough something might just happen !!!
OMGSHOMGSHOMGSHOMGSHOMGSHOMGSHOMGSHOMSGH!!!!!!!! *uber super ultra mega hyper happeh dances* HAPPEH!! *squeals*
Um, now that that's over...*screams* Happeh happeh happeh happeh...
Ok, I'm REALLY over the shock now. :P Fweeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Ok, must...become...serious... XD I kinda wish I didn't quit SaveKQIX 2 days ago. :P
Ok, I can't form coherent relevant sentences so I'm just going to say that I'm SOOOOO happeh about this!
...I'm so happy that i'm speechless
:'( <-tears of joy!
Hurra!! The Silver Lining!!! ;D
Release date? ;)
Wow, first time poster, been watching almost every day since shutdown. All I can say is WOW. (And yay, I'm one of the first 20 people to see this)
*Jesse puts his underwear on his head and runs around "moo-ing"*
I'm just very happy :'(
Awesome!!!!!!!!
Yay!
yahoo jippie jippie jo
don't want to be nosy butttttt.....
when can we suspect the game will be released?
They said they were going for January, so add 2 months to that, and you get sometime in March...
http://www.tsl-game.com/
Read the full press release, sometime 2006, we aren't sure when yet :)
I've just sent an e-mail to VU thanking them for the 'fangame' license... and you?. ;)
This will be the best spring game!
EDIT:
Note: I've not written down the year or the country so 'spring' can be for me (in Spain) in November. Waiting for it! (and for translate it into Spanish ;)
Great!!
* Takes out the partytent and gives a party *
Let's celebrate on the good ending.
* Takes a glass full of soda and raises it * 8)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :suffer: :suffer: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This has made my day! Does this mean that all the characters will remain form KQ but the tile just won't have KQ in it?
THIS THE BEST NEWS EVER (or at least since a long time ago... ;))
I'm very happy and I can't express my gratitude to POS and SaveKQIX.org you've just made my day !!!
I am also sending a 'thanks' mail to VUG for allowing you to continue with this "fans license". POS rocks and should live forever !
As the previous post just asked: Is the title the only change made ? or other names/locations will be change either ?
Please DO count of me if you need anything. I'd be more than happy to help.
;D ;D ;DÂ "We did it, Mr. Miyagi!"Â ;D ;D ;D
Congratulations, everyone. This is wonderful news!
I guess Vivendi isn't such a big bad corporate monster after all. ;)
;D YES YES YES YES, I KNEW IT WILL BE BACK IF WE FANS BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT.
;D Now i can really die happy, this is unbelievable news.
;D I cant get the KQ9, err (The Silver Lining) Theme Song out of my head and i have this thing (going on in my head with the Theme Song) where Fans are cheering celebrating after a succesfull (Lord Of The Rings Middle Earth) Battle.
;D Thanks Koko and thanks to the Save KQIX Site. Congrats yourself Fans, we DID IT.
;D Now lets hold a NEW Silver Lining Coming Back Party, i got the Cake.
Thanks goodness!
I'm wondering is it going to be a freeware?
(This is Telepathic_Cat, but I'm at school so I can't log in...)
:o :o :oOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
Let's just say this: I wasn't having a very good day today, then I went  here and saw this and....WOO(Freakin')HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8) :suffer:
Now, excuse me while I go replay the collection on my '95 (the only reason why I keep the hunk o' junk: to play old Sierra On-Line gmaes) before the release of IX! Â YAY!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! XD
I'm so happeh. :)
YAY! *hugs the team members* :)
I'm so very happy!!! ;D ;D ;D
An truly titanic thankyou to all negotiation people who made this happen! :D
And if VUG people are reading this, thankyou for letting it be released!
I don't care if the release date's been pushed back another six months or whatever, at least Silver Lining is still ALIVE!!! :D :D :D
Yay! :D
Congratulations POS team!!! Fans weren't going to let you off that easy! :)
When this gem comes out, offers from game making companies are going to be flooding in!
Again, grats, I look forward to this game and any projects from your team in the future!
*Happy Dances*
YAY YAY YAY YAAY YEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAA THAN K YOU GOD WOOOOHOOO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHHAHAHAH THANK YOU THANK YOUT TAHNK YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA TY TYU TY TY YTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY IOM SO EXITED!!!!!!!!! :suffer: :suffer: :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :) :) :) :)
I am really absolutely happy. *Dances YMCA and you won't see my dance again. I've sent a thanks mail to Vivendi. Congratulations and HURRY UP!
Just sent my thanks e-mail to vivendi and my hands are shaking withsd exitement! could you plz re-release a release date? i just cant wait!
Wow, I can buy VU products again. ;P
Good to hear people.
I certainly hope the team takes some time to celebrate this news, given all the anxiety they must have been feeling over the past couple of months.
Check it out guys, Mtv did a special about us.
I'm so glad that I can FINALLY talk about VU and about Mtv.
here it is
Mtv Article (http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1517812)
Thanks to Stephen Totilo about such wonderful work and patient about this.
Go read it now!! :)
As a result of the agreement, the game will lose its "King's Quest" moniker but will otherwise be unchanged, still featuring the series' characters. The game will now be released in 2006.
Obviously a lot of people were wondering about this, so I thought I'd quote it from the MTV article.
We've been working right before the announcement itself, but when he contacted VU in order to continue with his work, VU told him to hold on, so, he truly got an exclusive about not just some details about the announcement but also few info about the negotiation.
Anyhow, everyone should check it out :)
Guys, I would like to take this moment to thank you ALL for the wonderful support you have given us throughout this whole situation! I could go on and on about this but it's hard to express in words... I'll just tell you that I'm convinced that without your efforts to help us save this project, we would not have been granted this license! So thank you for saving hours and hours of work and giving us a chance to eventually hand the fruits of it all over to you! :)
But I'd also like to thank the people of VU Games that we have been in touch with. Contrary to popular belief when it comes to these sorts of things, they were very nice to us all the way through this. They are serious about protecting their trademarks, as all well-managed companies are, but this wasn't like a big business deal with a lot of money involved. However, they took notice of the public reactions and decided that it was a good idea to negotiate a deal with us to sort out this thing. In the end we got to keep it all, except for the old title, and quite frankly under the circumstances that doesn't really matter at all, does it? XB
What a nice Christmas present for us all, fans and developers alike! Now I'm just starting to freak out about how much we owe you guys in terms of delivering the best fangame ever! :sweating:
YAY!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!! I AM SO EXCITED!!
Hi all, I'm a guest but I've been checking in on this project for awhile and I'm glad to see that you guys will get to finish it! I have a question about the KQ Compilation that is supposedly coming out and I was wondering if any of you guys know the answer. Amazon.com said that it was being released January 30, but now it is saying March 30. However Walmart.com says that you can get it as early as Dec. 16. Other sites I saw gave release dates in late December. Does anyone know the real story on this? None of the sites seem to have detailed information about this product aside from "King's Quest Compilation for Windows XP" and prices. I'm hesitant to pre-order something with no extensive information or artwork.
Thanks for your help and I apologize if this is a nuisance.
All right, we did it! ;D ;D *does the Kirby Victory dance*
(Ba da da da da da DA da da!
Da da da da da da da DA da da!
Ba da da da da da DA da da..
Da da, dada, da da, DING!)
The news spreads:
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/kings-quest-ix/kings-quest-ix-revived-142200.php (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/kings-quest-ix/kings-quest-ix-revived-142200.php)
(EDIT: Looks like I'm forum stretching. Can any of the moderators fix this?)
Hey i just hought about this will this game still be a free game or are we now charging for it?
Congratulations. That's very positive news indeed. I assume the name change is in order to avoid confusion with official use of the trademark "King's Quest". I have a hunch the agreement you got to is not completely unlike ours, which may include the promise to keep a fair part of it confidential. But I'll still give it a try...anything you can share about the exact nature and obligations/ownership clauses of your agreement?
(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashsmil.jpg)
;D
HOORAY!!!
Thanks everyone! We're all still excited by the news. ;D
To answer a couple questions people asked, no we don't have to change any of the game content (i.e. characters, lands, backstory) which is a huge relief! The title was the only thing we had to change. :)
Your thoughts on the KQ Compilations are as good as ours. One thing we can say for sure is that The Silver Lining will not be included with them. As I mentioned in the first post, our release date for Shadows is being pushed to sometime in 2006, so it won't be completed by the time the Compilations go out.
And yes, the game will still be free. XD
AH! Just today I said to myself "hey leme go and get the old kings quest games" and I ended up at this site! wow, I wish all of you the best of luck
HURRAY WE ARE SO HAPPY NOW GET ON WORK :D
EDIT:
What was wrong with old title?
Congrats, kids! ;D
To answer Erpy,
We can't really talk much yet about legal issues (we're still on it, somehow), once we finish everything up about that, we might talk with you by email or PM which might be much more appropiated to discuss.
Everyone: Say after me:
The Silver Lining! ;D
It's going to be tough to stop calling the game by its old name out of habit, but it's what it is now and we all have to adapt. I'm getting better at it all the time, so just try it out and you'll do just fine! ;)
Repeats: "The Silver Lining" :D
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 03:59:27 PM
Thanks everyone! We're all still excited by the news. ;D
To answer a couple questions people asked, no we don't have to change any of the game content (i.e. characters, lands, backstory) which is a huge relief! The title was the only thing we had to change. :)Â
Your thoughts on the KQ Compilations are as good as ours. One thing we can say for sure is that The Silver Lining will not be included with them. As I mentioned in the first post, our release date for Shadows is being pushed to sometime in 2006, so it won't be completed by the time the Compilations go out.
And yes, the game will still be free. XD
That's a great relief
I am still confuse:
You said something about Shadows being release sometimew in 2006?
Is it an other thing or The Silver Lining?
Were any discussion about The Silver Lining being included among compilation in the future?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY :D :D :D
Thank you all so much for working on this guys you make me feel like i'm in love :D
Hey and when the first part is done maybe you can make a torrent out of it to save bandwidth!!
I love you guys!!
(BTW I was the guy who asked if the story would be comparable to something like FF7 on the ask-question chat thing;D OMG the REAL Roberta & Ken williams were there!! :D :D)
I'm really really happy right now and my heart rate has doubled!!
GO POS!! ;)
It was quite a happy surprise when I checked my email today and saw a message from SaveKQIX, and a KQIX newsletter just now, with some very awesome news. I'm so happy right now, I can barely contain my excitement. I guess all I can say is congratulations POS! ;D
As for the title change, I think The Silver Lining is a great title. :)
Quote from: splat44 on December 09, 2005, 04:46:46 PM
Is it an other thing or The Silver Lining?
Shadows is the first part of The Silver Lining. :)
This is amazing! I am so happy, and actually a bit proud! We, the fans, helped in doing this! So now Phoenix can continue with their amazing work! I am just THRILLED that I will get to play this game after all! HOORAAAYYY! (I feel like screaming)
I'm going to mail Vivendi as well, and say thank you!
Yes, PLEASE email them! We need to let them know how much we appreciate them giving Phoenix Online such a wonderful opportunity! :D
Don't answer if you can't discuss this right now, but did the agreement with Vivendi include anything that may affect the distribution of the game (ie. plans to use bandwidth from other adventure sites)
HOORAY! ;D
I guess the title is important from an official/unofficial/legalese point of view, but since nothing about the game itself is being changed I think it's a wonderful tradeoff. It sounds like things are now proceeding exactly as before, but this time with Vivendi approval (hugely important) and a minimally modified title (barely a blip on the radar). Excellent news! :)
One question. Why abbreviate it just to "The Silver Lining"? Why not merely chop off the contentious "King's Quest IX" part and go with the whole "Every Cloak Has A Silver Lining"?
Quote from: Goober5000 on December 09, 2005, 05:06:31 PM
One question. Why abbreviate it just to "The Silver Lining"? Why not merely chop off the contentious "King's Quest IX" part and go with the whole "Every Cloak Has A Silver Lining"?
I was just about to ask the exact same question.
And what was VU's email addy again to thank them?
Josh
This is a huge inspiration. The whole story of the fan project working so hard, being canceled and now getting a second chance. I would LOVE to hear more about this. An article published by the team that explains what happened, how and why things worked out for the best. I think there could be some great lessons and advice for people like myself, who want to create fan games but don't want to have our work canceled.
The announcement mentions a "fan license". Is that something official from VUG that can be obtained by other developers working on fan games?
-Reid
Quote from: threej_lc on December 09, 2005, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Goober5000 on December 09, 2005, 05:06:31 PM
One question. Why abbreviate it just to "The Silver Lining"? Why not merely chop off the contentious "King's Quest IX" part and go with the whole "Every Cloak Has A Silver Lining"?
I was just about to ask the exact same question.
And what was VU's email addy again to thank them?
Josh
It's in Cat's (koko_99_2001) signature.
EDIT: Actually, that reminds me. Everyone can now safely remove any "Save KQIX" material from their signatures and avatars, given that
The Silver Lining is back in production
Quote from: Goober5000 on December 09, 2005, 05:06:31 PM
One question. Why abbreviate it just to "The Silver Lining"? Why not merely chop off the contentious "King's Quest IX" part and go with the whole "Every Cloak Has A Silver Lining"?
It's too long. We're going to be changing our domain from tsl-game.com in the future, and echasl.com isn't exactly easy to remember. :P
Congrats POS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
These are the best news ever :D TBH, Not for a second did I dare hope the outcome would be THAT good... but then you guys always seem to surprise us with what you manage to achieve ;)
Thanks everyone for not giving up, and for proving our community is big enough to make waves ;-D
BTW, it's a bit ironic that after everyone went knocking those 'change the name' suggestions that came up on the project shutdown thread, that's all they really had to do! :suffer:
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 05:14:40 PM
It's too long. We're going to be changing our domain from tsl-game.com in the future, and echasl.com isn't exactly easy to remember. :P
Understandable. But Every Cloak has a Silver Lining is just so endearing as in line with the original King's Quest title puns, which The Silver Lining loses. Maybe you could just use both as official names for the game, using each when its more appropriate?
I'm also kind of curious why it took 3 months for VUG to just say, "Change your name." Will you guys be able to elaborate on the details of this later?
Josh
Clearly there was more to the deal than "change the name", but yes, I see the irony.
Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
This is a huge inspiration. The whole story of the fan project working so hard, being canceled and now getting a second chance. I would LOVE to hear more about this. An article published by the team that explains what happened, how and why things worked out for the best. I think there could be some great lessons and advice for people like myself, who want to create fan games but don't want to have our work canceled.
Stephen Totilo from Mtv did quite a good job, at the moment. Although we will have more information coming.
Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Check it out guys, Mtv did a special about us.
I'm so glad that I can FINALLY talk about VU and about Mtv.
here it is
Mtv Article (http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1517812)
Thanks to Stephen Totilo about such wonderful work and patient about this.
Go read it now!! :)
Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
The announcement mentions a "fan license". Is that something official from VUG that can be obtained by other developers working on fan games?
Actually no, sorry.
What is the fan license exactly?
Congratulations POS
I'm sooo happy, The magical worlds of the green isles
etheria, daventry and everywhere else will be rolling across my computer screen for the first time in nearly 10 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: threej_lc on December 09, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
Understandable. But Every Cloak has a Silver Lining is just so endearing as in line with the original King's Quest title puns, which The Silver Lining loses. Maybe you could just use both as official names for the game, using each when its more appropriate?
Directors already discussed and agreed on this matter, although thanks for caring and giving an input on it.
Quote from: threej_lc on December 09, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
I'm also kind of curious why it took 3 months for VUG to just say, "Change your name." Will you guys be able to elaborate on the details of this later?
It didn't take them 3 months, in fact, they provided the C&D letter at the end of September. We didn't expect this to be the outcome of it, but we had the oportunity that VU would be quite kind and open minded to discuss anything about it, so one thing led to another and we were discussing a license. I wish fans would understand that:
1.- We were not going to give up, unlike what so many thought. The fact that we agreed to do as VU told us to was because we weren't going to continue to do this wrong, we wanted to make things right.
2.- This wasn't planned, so NO, it didn't take them 3 months, in fact, took them like a week to review material and say "yes, now let's talk about that license". And in fact, I can't say much about the legal agreement yet hence we're even still discussing those matters at the moment, we just had approval to come through with the news (finally).
3.- We got truly lucky they were open minded even after the C&D letter, and we're even more lucky to have such great fans who DID help on this situation, and push them to realize that maybe there is more than what they thought there was.
I hope this has answered some of your questions.
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on December 09, 2005, 05:54:22 PM
What is the fan license exactly?
Let me put it this way, we have their approval to continue legally.
Is this a new rule that they will give license to everyone who starts working on their IP? -> No.
Excellent work in getting the game approved.
At my advanced age, Christmas isn't what it once was but thanks to you guys and the excellent folks at VU, I got a serious Christmas present.
Thanks to eveyone who stayed on this.
I'm looking forward to the results ;D
Andy
It certainly sounds like, from the team member forum posts and the MTV article, that part of the reason for VU wanting to talk was that the team demonstrated a product of real quality. I think they should be extremely proud of that.
As a PR Director, I have a long story, I started as regular staff in art department way back then when Cesar had started leading the team, working for character design and whatnot, evolved into lead colorist, then moved on to PR department and nowdays, after ALL I've seen and ALL I've done, I can say I'm proud of this team, we've certainly got further than what I thought we would ever.
I also must say that VU Rep in both departments were extremely nice and kind to us, tons of grattitude to those guys, really.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy that this worked out like it did.
Congrats POS, I really admire your dedication to this project. I know alot of others would have given up long before now.
You guys are the best! ;D ;D ;D
I'm glad that all of us humble fans were able to help all of you achieve the dream of a true adventure game.
YAAAAY!! Such happy news! I don't think I'll care if I fail Calculus this semester anymore! I was SO depressed about the C&D... Congratulations to all the people working on the project! I can't imagine how happy you are if I'm THIS happy! n.n!
P.S. I faintly remember hearing Cesar had quit after the C&D...was that true? And if it was true, is he coming back?
He definitely did not quit! Though production on the game did.
Quote from: Tage on December 09, 2005, 06:31:57 PM
YAAAAY!! Such happy news! I don't think I'll care if I fail Calculus this semester anymore! I was SO depressed about the C&D... Congratulations to all the people working on the project! I can't imagine how happy you are if I'm THIS happy! n.n!
I hope you won't fail Calculus! so, good luck with that. And yes, the team and the fans are amazingly happy right now :)
Quote from: Tage on December 09, 2005, 06:31:57 PM
P.S. I faintly remember hearing Cesar had quit after the C&D...was that true? And if it was true, is he coming back?
Cesar never left the team, where did you hear such? lol. So, if he never quit, he's already there.
*SQUEALLL* I just finished jumping up and down and running around the house screaming. LOL This is the best news ever! And it's definately made my day, heck, it's made my Christmas! THANK YOU VIVENDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *SQUEALS MORE!* Congrats you guys! *hugs everyone*
*runs off to get rid of the "dang you vivendi" comment on my myspace page*
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on December 09, 2005, 04:58:39 PM
Yes, PLEASE email them! We need to let them know how much we appreciate them giving Phoenix Online such a wonderful opportunity! :D
Everyone email!After all the emails, letters, & petitions, we should show our gratitude for being heard and allowed to continue! 8)
games.comments@vugames.com
Way to go POS!!!! :D
QuoteI hope you won't fail Calculus! so, good luck with that. And yes, the team and the fans are amazingly happy right now
Thank you very much! You're probably the first person that hoped I didn't fail (other than me, of course)! Haha. Sadly...this is my 3rd time taking Calculus, I dropped the course the first 2 times. I always said I'd kill myself if I didn't pass it this semester, but...I can't anymore. Not until I play The Silver Lining (nice name n.n) at least! =P
QuoteCesar never left the team, where did you hear such? lol. So, if he never quit, he's already there.
You know...good question. I have no idea where I heard that... But I do believe I DID hear that somewhere. I am very relieved it wasn't true though! =D
P.S. Take your time with the release! As anxious as we are to play it, screw us if we can't wait another year (even if it probably won't take THAT long, but you get what I'm saying right? =P)! Always ignore impatient fans (even if none have showed their face yet)! (I'm done using parentheses) (oh wait...one more thing...)
(GOOD LUCK ON FINALS)
Thanks for the quick reply. Nice article by MTV.
-Reid
Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
This is a huge inspiration. The whole story of the fan project working so hard, being canceled and now getting a second chance. I would LOVE to hear more about this. An article published by the team that explains what happened, how and why things worked out for the best. I think there could be some great lessons and advice for people like myself, who want to create fan games but don't want to have our work canceled.
Stephen Totilo from Mtv did quite a good job, at the moment. Although we will have more information coming.
Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Check it out guys, Mtv did a special about us.
I'm so glad that I can FINALLY talk about VU and about Mtv.
here it is
Mtv Article (http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1517812)
Thanks to Stephen Totilo about such wonderful work and patient about this.
Go read it now!! :)
Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
The announcement mentions a "fan license". Is that something official from VUG that can be obtained by other developers working on fan games?
Actually no, sorry.
YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Just got the news.
i just heard and this is definitley a "yay moment"
YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congratulations on Silver Lining. i'll look forward to Shadows in the future.
i almost screamed i was so happy when i got the e-mail!
Congrats and well done to all those who fought for kqix! You've proven to everyone that anything's possible if you don't give up. *cheers*
Quote from: sivvrianBARRY on December 09, 2005, 11:42:53 AM
They said they were going for January, so add 2 months to that, and you get sometime in March...
Quote from: Warlock on December 09, 2005, 11:43:30 AM
http://www.tsl-game.com/
Read the full press release, sometime 2006, we aren't sure when yet :)
I did read that, but I just assumed that it would be pushed back the amount of time of lost development (2 months, right? Not sure where the 3 months thing is coming from). Any reason why it would take longer?
Yes. It's not just up to us anymore, it's also VU's call.
So, that's all we can say for now. Sorry.
Oh, I see now. Thanks for clearing that up, Say.
DJGOJDNGKJLHGUDRTW{IOPDIOPAMKLFJ!!!"
#?"??!?!?R?PLSK FREAKKING YES! TAKE THAT YOU FRICKING SKEPTICS! Tell us now that the project is impossible to revive!
Well since we have to wait for kqix-errr... I mean The silver lining I guess I'll have to count the seconds... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, uh... What was i up to.... ah yes 3, 4, 5, 6,.... dang its gonna be long...
Well on the bright side we can play KQ3 VGA while waiting for the silver lining ;D
Quote from: Flubly on December 09, 2005, 08:54:06 PM
DJGOJDNGKJLHGUDRTW{IOPDIOPAMKLFJ!!!"
#?"??!?!?R?PLSK FREAKKING YES! TAKE THAT YOU FRICKING SKEPTICS! Tell us now that the project is impossible to revive!
Hahaha, loved that post :) !
Hang on, I just realized something. VUG granted POS the license to continue The Silver Lining on November 29, Cesar's birthday. Some present, wouldn't you say?
I went down to the VUG offices and said "they'll just change the name"...and they said "oh, ok." See the power I have...I bestow my mind-altering gifts upon the lining that is silver.
What are Phoenix Online Studios' post-"The Silver Lining" plans? Does Phoenix intend to "go pro"? By the way, don't forget to milk the new license for publicity. Mention how the license enabled the Phoenix to rise from the ashes and continue development to any media contact.
Yaaay!!!!!!
Well done Koko! You and the reat of the Save KQIX team are real heroes who have had success in a real quest in which all the fans and P.O.S. team have participated too!
At last Phoenix Online has risen from the ashes.
I'm really, really, really happy!
I already have said thisñ but I´ll say it again. My best wishes to P.O.S. to suceed with "The Silver Lining" trilogy and any other project you have in mind in the future!.
Super, congrats ! Really looking forward to a close release date. By the way - where is the trailer that was released be4 the troubles ?
I'd love to see a few sequences in action, not just screenies.
Once again - excellent job, this will be the adventure of 2006 for sure !
Quote from: daventry on December 09, 2005, 11:40:12 PM
;D I cant get the KQ9, err (The Silver Lining) Theme Song out of my head and i have this thing (going on in my head with the Theme Song) where Fans are cheering celebrating after a succesfull (Lord Of The Rings Middle Earth) Battle.
;D Thanks Koko and thanks to the Save KQIX Site. Congrats yourself Fans, we DID IT.
;D Now lets hold a NEW Silver Lining Coming Back Party, i got the Cake.
:) So will the names all be like:
The Silver Lining - Part 1: Shadows
The Silver Lining - Part 2: The Two That Are One
The Silver Lining - Part 1: Eternities
;D I'm so happy that the Characters and Story Line and Everything stays the same.
??? Is this Game gonna be DVD like, i hope i can download it with my 56K Modem and i hope it will NOT be in TORRENT.
I also hope that we run it with windows 98!
I'm so excited and I just can't hide it, I'm about to lose control and I think I like it. I read this late at night and I couldn't scream or anything because everyone was asleep but oh wait till I wake up. YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 05:55:08 PM
1.- We were not going to give up, unlike what so many thought. The fact that we agreed to do as VU told us to was because we weren't going to continue to do this wrong, we wanted to make things right.
2.- This wasn't planned, so NO, it didn't take them 3 months, in fact, took them like a week to review material and say "yes, now let's talk about that license". And in fact, I can't say much about the legal agreement yet hence we're even still discussing those matters at the moment, we just had approval to come through with the news (finally).
3.- We got truly lucky they were open minded even after the C&D letter, and we're even more lucky to have such great fans who DID help on this situation, and push them to realize that maybe there is more than what they thought there was.
I hope this has answered some of your questions.
Yup! Thanks a bunch!
I want to first apologize to everyone including the members on the POS team, all the fans who were supportive and I was just a fool and jerk for saying to give up when I myself was wrong in the first place. Â I know I tried apologizing before and I did mean it but man If you guys could really FORGIVE ME THIS TIME!!! Â I want to be a better Loyal fan to you guys and not be such a coward and jerk who just gives up on people who are creating a most excellent gaming experience to all people who have loved the King's Quest Gaming Series. Â I am a fan because I own all of them except King's Quest 8 and I just really wanted you all to know that I am turning a new leaf, and not going to be a traitor and leave when I told you all I was going too! Â I know I didn't post a lot of posts, but being in Grad School In Iowa I don't have time much to post, but I have read a lot of your comments, and really see a lot of faith into this forum and group of developers and gamers out there. Â
Please know that I want to be a support to you and that I would even be willing to buy this game when it comes out in 2006. Â I am really excited about this game you guys. Â When I saw the trailer in the beginning of October, I was so pumped and knew that it was going to be a most excellent end to an awesome storyline and series of games that were a part of my life in the late 80's early 90's. Â I love King's Quest games, I have played all of them and learned to love the characters and just want to tell you all that I really am a fan of what you have done so please take my apologies seriously because I don't want to be a debby downer and jerk face but rather a loyal supporter of this website and future game!
God speed you all in this remainder of the project, and I can't wait to hear the exciting news and see the first installment when it comes out soon!
Sincerely,
Russ
Aka IAGamer2524
Quote from: splat44 on December 10, 2005, 12:00:27 AM
I also hope that we run it with windows 98!
Probably the best way to answer that question would for you to download this demo (http://www.garagegames.com/pg/demo.php?id=1) of the Torque engine that is being used for
Silver Lining and see if it runs on your machine.
Check it out! 1up did a story on KQIX.
http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3146238
Well, didn't expect this to happen, but good news, nonetheless! ;D
That's wonderful! :D . OMG! I'm so glad.
Damn . . . I can't believe how much I missed out on. I changed my email address and forgot to check my old one for months. Then I finally get around to it, and see a message from KQ9 that you're shutting down 'OMG, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!'. Then I scroll up and see a message saying that everything's worked out. This'll teach me to neglect my email ::)
I'm so incredibly happy the project's going to be going ahead :D
Quote from: sivvrianBARRY on December 10, 2005, 12:14:32 AM
Check it out! 1up did a story on KQIX.
http://1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3146238
Great! thanks for that info :)
If anyone finds anywhere else where we have been recently commented in, feel free to share it with me, I'd much gladly appreciate it :)
Heh...so Vivendi finally saw the light! -gives them a grim salute- Good to see this thing back in business, been looking foward towards it for quite some time now. Long live The Silver Lining!
Hi,
The work, the perseverance and the union give their fruits!! ;)
Today, more than ever, we are happy the lovers of KQ. :smitten:
;P
It is a good gift of Papá Noel :P
??? Why is it just called The Silver Lining, why not King's Quest 9: The Silver Lining. Why is the name "King's Quest" not allowed.
Be thankful that we're getting the game, no metter what it's called, but it's probably not allowed to be called KQ9, because VU does own the rights to KQ.
Quote from: daventry on December 10, 2005, 06:14:11 AM
Why is it just called The Silver Lining, why not King's Quest 9: The Silver Lining.
Why is the name "King's Quest" not allowed.
I would guess, just in case Vivendi would want to make an official sequel, although I don't see that coming...ever, and perhaps for the best :P
??? So will the names all be like:
The Silver Lining - Part 1: Shadows
The Silver Lining - Part 2: The Two That Are One
The Silver Lining - Part 3: Eternities
Quote from: daventry on December 10, 2005, 06:41:08 AM
The Silver Lining - Part 1: Eternities
Nope. That one will be Part
3. ;P
But yes, those will be the names. :)
Moley Shmosies! It's been a while since I have come to check on things... I have been vying for people to help on a different website, GaiaOnline, where a lot of the older gamers knew about the game. I set a topic up, and you would not BELIEVE the responses! So many were upset, I was able to convince a few (that I talked to at least) to send in a letter.
Whether or not they followed through with it or not is another question, and there are always people just may have stopped by... and some may have made letters without me knowing. I stole the Prince Alexander signiture (un-Santa hatted) and put a link to the website to save kqix...
This is so exiting! I need to change my siggie there, now. It does not look like it needs that kind of attention anymore.
I can't wait to see the vision we have fought for! ;D
In fact, thank you, Yonkey... Your signiture was the one I borrowed. I will change it now. I just need to find a suitable replacement.
I've just realised this and I am so happy that Silver Lining is back on track, good luck for the future ;)
Quote from: Say on December 10, 2005, 05:46:04 AM
Great! thanks for that info :)
If anyone finds anywhere else where we have been recently commented in, feel free to share it with me, I'd much gladly appreciate it :)
It isn't a news story... but nonetheless I've found this : http://www.silverlininggame.com/ anyone know anyhting about it ?
a whois returns french peeps on it....
just my 2 cents...
Wow...interesting :)
A toast to you Koko for a job well done (http://www.pfradio.com/forums/images/smilies/1/beer.gif)
Your Savekqix Website helped allot of Fans to open Vivendi's eyes. :suffer:
:D :D :D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hiki Ai!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Sweet!
This is very marvelous news! Congrats, POS, and all the fans who made this possible. I never thought it possible that VUG would actually act more like an organization of humans than machines at any point in the near future.
Looking forward to its release with eager anticipation! :D
Congratulations you guys! I'm so glad you get to continue to make the game...and that we get to play it. ;D
Rune
Germany is waiting for The Silver Lining ... :D
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE KNEW YOU COULD DO IT, POS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!
Surely the best early xmas present anyone could of asked for!!??
;D
*happy*
YEAAAAH :D :D
so paying â,¬ 1,55 for shipping the letter wasn't wasted! ;D
Congrats guys I'm glad this project is back, oh and Kudos to Vivendo for shockingly listening to fans!
Hey uh.. Who will the badguys be in TSL? will it be wizier alhazred (Man his name is hard :-X) or a bunch of newbie bad guys?
Shadrack
Nice banner Luisa
I just found out about this. I am so happy! yay! *dances around the room* happy happy joy joy! yeah, Can't wait for the Silver Lining! is it going to have the same king's quest characters in them, or will you change the names a bit? I think the villains in this one will be all of the previous KQ villains and Shadrack. Heeheeeh yaha, me so happeh it's back!
MTV Article (http://www.mtv.com/games/video_games/news/story.jhtml?id=1517812)
Read up.
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!! :smitten:
Quote from: Say on December 10, 2005, 12:56:26 PM
Nice banner Luisa
thanks *feels honoured* ;D
it's already some months old, I think
On IGN!
http://pc.ign.com/articles/674/674825p1.html
YIPPEE!! SKIPPEE!! FREAK'IN!! DOO!!!!!!
With Scobee Snacks for Everyone!!!!
Oh my Deity like Aparition!!!
Cheers to All of you... Fans and Dev team Alike!!!!
--<<To be fair... and help others in the future... I'm actually going to send a polite thank you note to Vivendi for seeing the light of reason>>--
Hey everyone,
This is Matt Compton (mcomp72) of the Save King's Quest IX campaign. I just wanted to say THANK YOU to all of the fans who supported our cause. It is only because of you that we were able to convince Vivendi to allow the game to continue.
I'm so happy for everyone at POS that all their hard work will not be in vein. As I'm sure you can guess, I'm a big King's Quest fan, and really loved those games when I was younger. I am so very happy that one day soon I'll be able to play The Silver Lining.
To POS -- thank you for not giving up after getting the C&D letter, and most of all, thank you for spending the last 4 years working on the game! Your hard work and dedication to King's Quest are the reason we are all here in the first place.
I also want to quickly thank the other members of the Save KQIX team. They all spend hours and hours spreading the word around the internet. Their efforts were invaluable. The campaign wouldn't have been successful without them.
Again, thank you to all of you. I'm so happy that I could play a part in helping to save this game.
Hey, I just ran across this.
http://www.digg.com/gaming/King%E2%80%99s_Quest_IX_is_saved_
If you want to help spread the word about the game being saved, join up at digg.com and then click "digg it" next to this story. (It is free to join.) The more diggs it gets, the more likely the story will make it to the front page of the site.
Digg.com is actually how we got a lot of visitors to the SaveKQIX site several weeks back. Someone posted a link to us, and we got a lot of diggs. Over 600, if I remember correctly. We made the front page, and lots of people visited the site during that time.
Oh my god this is such good news.Im glad this project lives.Im have never been a KQ player but the news of this project being shutdown made me sad.Im glad things worked out and I will be sure to pick up this game.
This might sound crazy, but am I the only one who's actually going to miss the constant "Why don't you just change the character and place names?" suggestions?
hey peeps :D
You did it! thanks a LOT for getting us out of this mess. I can't wait to get back to work. We were getting a bit lazy, but now we have something really nice to look forward to again. Expect some surprises in the near future.
Be proud of yourselves, kudos to you guys 8)
I think I can speak for the team, when I say, no words can express how we feel right now. This is what the King's Quest spirit is all about..
thank you thank you thank you! ;D
Congrats to all involved in saving KQ9. I'm really happy for you guys. I'm really looking forward to playing this game!
Allert, can't wait for those surprises!!
Any chance of one of them being Cuatokomacen in 3D?? ;D ;D
POS, I thank you greatly for making it though your Trial by Fire, and bringing "The Silver Lining" out from the Shadows of Darkness!
We need to celebrate this victory for Daventry!
Graham crackers, anyone?
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/GrahamCrackers.jpg)
lol Nah those graham crackers arn't to good. :P
YES!!! First time poster, over two year visitor. I just wanted to say that Vivendi has vindicated itself.
Also, Quandary News (http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?filename=/news/Dec05/KQIXBack.html&articleType=News)
Well I almost cried was very happy when I read this on Slashdot.
Good job on getting the game back and Vivendi actually doing the right thing.
To bad the release date will be pushed back, I had been looking forward to getting it for the Holidays before it was shut down, but at least its back.
Good luck with the the rest of the development guys.
Hurrah! And again, I say: Hurrah! A most excellent series of developments if I do say so myself! And I do. Good to see that after all these years the work can still continue! Looking forward to voicing characters!
Hi, my name is Frans Coehoorn and I'm an editor @ Dutch online game-community www.gamer.nl. First of all, I want to congratulate everybody for this victory!!! :D
I am very pleased to hear that you all can continue your dedicated work to make one of the best fangames ever! If you ever are in need of free promotion of KQ IV or adventures in general, feel free to email me, I'm sure loads of people in Holland still are interested in such fine adventuregames, I know I am! 8)
Oh and there's a post about you on the frontpage of Gamer.nl
http://www.gamer.nl/nieuws/28725
Good luck, all of you! :)
I've just read the Great news.
Yay for Fan power. I wish the game developers a happy holiday season, and some productive development in the new year.
I look forward to playing the first installment in 2006 when it comes out.
Also thanks to VU staff for showing that a Large Multinational Company can have heart. My own Personal Boycott of Vivendi Universal games can now come to an end :)
Congratulations to the team, and all the fans that made this possible!! I never doubted the possibility of making a deal with vug, but i still where quite shocked when i found out! ;D I found an article on www.adventure-eu.com! http://www.adventure-eu.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=163&Itemid=63
Enjoy ;)
I am so estactic it isn't even funny!!! Oh I am so happy the game is coming back! :smitten: ;B :yes: It's time to parrrrrtaaayyy!!
I'm so glad that differences and such were able to be worked out! I guess not all corperations are cold and heartless afterall!
This is awesome. It shows that if we work together anything is possible. :D
I just wanted to congratulate everyone from POS and the fans that made this all possible. I have been actively reading the forums and also sent in my petition and emails to VU. Below is a link to a little snippet on Gameinformer about The Silver Lining project.
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200512/N05.1209.1642.21552.htm
Thank all of you who have been dropping links to the recent news about us. So far, we seem to be all over :)
If you keep finding more, let us know!
BTW, not sure how many of you speak spanish, but we're also reaching out some audiences in spanish! Vida Extra (http://www.vidaextra.com/) commented about us, and Jon-Adventure (http://www.jon-aventure.net) did also :)
Thanks for both of them, help spread the news all over!
I'm not sure how many of you speak Hebrew... but here's another one:
http://www.gamer.co.il/gamer2/php/doc.php?id=91796
I didn't post a lot... but I've just known... I'm very, very pleased to see the "Project shutdown" topic closed... :P
:D :D
YAAHHHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Vivindi isn't so bad after all!
Woah... Pheonix Online studios, rise from ashes... wierd...
Congratulations Everyone! ;D
You did it!
Congrats!!!
This is definetly somthing worth shouting about!!!
I'm glad to see that our letters helped!!!
I cant wait to see the game guys way to go!!!!!
Congrats, guys!
now the song lose the battle winn the war has more meaning. Not only for the game it self but also for us all
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 03:59:27 PMOne thing we can say for sure is that The Silver Lining will not be included with them. As I mentioned in the first post, our release date for Shadows is being pushed to sometime in 2006, so it won't be completed by the time the Compilations go out.
You never know, they seem to have already pushed back the release date twice, who's to say they won't do it a third time to ensure them both coming out at the same time (even though tsl won't be part of the Compilation itself)? :pokerface:
Quote from: Petter Holmberg on December 09, 2005, 04:30:12 PMEveryone: Say after me:
The Silver Lining! ;D
Better yet, I've made it part of my sig. :D
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 05:14:40 PMWe're going to be changing our domain from tsl-game.com
I hope you'll be giving us notice of the change in a (e-mail) news flash, so I can change all of my kqix-bookmarks. 8)
Quote from: Skeptikal on December 10, 2005, 08:11:41 AMIt isn't a news story... but nonetheless I've found this : http://www.silverlininggame.com/ anyone know anyhting about it ?
a whois returns french peeps on it....
::)
I mentioned the C&D notice to a 'certain game' in a psychic evaluation I had a few weeks ago as something I'd like to see changed that was not personal. Ofcourse I meant KQIX but I didn't mention that. When I read the psychic report it mentions the psychic found it strange I would mention such a thing. However, if that same question were to be asked to me now, the first answer would not have anything to do with TSL anymore. THANK YOU POS AND VUG (already sent an e-mail to VU)! :iluvu:
Do you mean "psychological" or "psychic?" ???
I'm speahless.... So....
*Hugs and kisses on the cheek for everyone involved in Pheonix Online Studios and the Save King's Quest IX Team*
Yes, I don't care if some of you people I just kissed are dudes... you guys are ***ing awesome.
Congrats to everyone!
*Puts his Adventuring cap back on and raises a mug of Dragon's Breath in cheers*
Awww YEAH!!! Happy day, happy day!
I kept visiting, hoping every time that the flash banner would change - imagine my surprise when it -was- different when I checked it... :D
Words can't express the content feeling I have - I'm really very happy about all of this.
Sooooo.... what does this mean for online voice roles? ;D
Tolin [Nate]
everyone will be notified as convenient about it. don't worry.
In case anyone is interested in all of the coverage the game is getting on the net, I have a thread going at the Save KQIX forum where I'm posting links to news articlea and blogs as I find them.
http://savekqix.proboards25.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1134164628
We are getting a LOT of press and bloggers writing about the game since the good news was announced. 8) We (Save KQIX) sent out a press release this morning about it, in case certain gaming press hadn't already heard. Hopefully even more sites will write about it in the coming days.
If you know of any links that I haven't posted yet, please feel free to post them in that thread.
Hello Everyone! This is Erik. I haven't posted recently. I've been following the progress of this project for years. I wa saddened by your slowdown, but would like to extend my Congragulations to everyonw involved in this project on your recent Restart. This shows you what you are able to achieve when you are determined, are willing to listen, and have a willingness to work together. Once again, Congragulations. I look forward to playing your game
Erik Parkin
Quote from: copycat on December 12, 2005, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 03:59:27 PMOne thing we can say for sure is that The Silver Lining will not be included with them. As I mentioned in the first post, our release date for Shadows is being pushed to sometime in 2006, so it won't be completed by the time the Compilations go out.
You never know, they seem to have already pushed back the release date twice, who's to say they won't do it a third time to ensure them both coming out at the same time (even though tsl won't be part of the Compilation itself)? :pokerface:
Quote from: Petter Holmberg on December 09, 2005, 04:30:12 PMEveryone: Say after me:
The Silver Lining! ;D
Better yet, I've made it part of my sig. :D
Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 05:14:40 PMWe're going to be changing our domain from tsl-game.com
I hope you'll be giving us notice of the change in a (e-mail) news flash, so I can change all of my kqix-bookmarks. 8)
Quote from: Skeptikal on December 10, 2005, 08:11:41 AMIt isn't a news story... but nonetheless I've found this : http://www.silverlininggame.com/ anyone know anyhting about it ?
a whois returns french peeps on it....
::)
I mentioned the C&D notice to a 'certain game' in a psychic evaluation I had a few weeks ago as something I'd like to see changed that was not personal. Ofcourse I meant KQIX but I didn't mention that. When I read the psychic report it mentions the psychic found it strange I would mention such a thing. However, if that same question were to be asked to me now, the first answer would not have anything to do with TSL anymore. THANK YOU POS AND VUG (already sent an e-mail to VU)! :iluvu:
Now it doesn't matter if part will included at same time of compilation or not, We know "The Silver Lining" is yours.
Regarding new server name, I will wait until then. Hopefully you can notify everyone at once.
Considering that going to http://kq9.org (http://kq9.org) leads here, I'd be very surprised if the new site won't be linked to in a similar fashion, thus eliminating the need for a big announcement on the matter.
Thank you tribe, I do appreciate your help here :) ( and kotaku too!, I saw your posts over there ;) )
Gamespotted!!
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/adventure/thesilverlining/
Now go ahead and add them to your wish list and your tracking list! Signing on is quckly if you don't have an account!
That will make the rank go higher!
Amazing stuff! :o
I also noticed that we're now the top hit on a Google search for "King's Quest", which I'm pretty sure wasn't the case before this news. So obviously a bunch of people have been looking up this website lately. ;D
YAY! That's great! :D *adds*
EDIT: TRIES to figure out how to add to wish list XD
EDIT again: yay, figured it out! :D
Awesome! I added it to my wishlist. :)
WOW!!! I can't tell ya how happy this makes me. The challenges presented to this project has it's release even more exciting.
The decision to continue the project alone is a GREAT Christmas present. I look forward to playing this game (by the way, the visuals and sounds thus far STILL thrill me) whenever it comes out.
Canada awaits The Silver Lining! (There I go, speaking on behalf of my country, as if there aren't a bunch of Canucks on here already.)
In the meantime, I will play Peasant's Quest, possibly the funniest tribute to the KQ series imagineable. If you played the old-school KQ games, check this out:
http://homestarrunner.com/pqtrailer.html
Just so you guys are aware, now that we have a Gamespot page, we also have a GameFAQs board:
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=931120
Hi, I am a great fan of yours and the owner of "www.silverlininggame.com" domain...
My self and a few other fans are working on the fan-site "Silver Lining Game"... But this morning we thought that we might be doing the wrong thing using this domain since there are quite few "silverlining" related domains available... so we though to DONATE the domain name to POS if you are interested in having it, it would be our pleasure, we'll manage to have another domain -not that related- with our fan site on it.
If, by any chance, you are interested in it, be sure to contact me with the email I am using to send this post.
I any case I wish you best of luck.
Would be great if you checked webmaster@silverlininggame.com sometimes :P either way, please contact me at saydmell.salazar@postudios.com, thanks for the support and admiration :)
Well maybe I'm a little bit sad since I went through all that trouble to get Daniel Oksun's address to send him a bucket o' poo. Maybe I'll just call him and say, "Thank you."
(I wasn't really going to send him the crap package)
;D ;D ;D HOORAY! ! ! ;D ;D ;D
Just checked my e-mail and saw the e-mail from Cat and the Newsletter. I must say that I am extremely excited. I cannot wait to play this game.
Gald to see that VU came through and didn't shut down the project. What a GREAT Christmas gift this is.
Also, just want to comment on the peolpe over at sliverlininggame.com: what a nice jesture. Although I have no say so, I just wanted to extend my thanks.
Wow, I am just so excited. This made my day.
Think I am going to write VU a thank you letter.
Quote from: Say on December 13, 2005, 12:45:10 PM
Would be great if you checked webmaster@silverlininggame.com sometimes :P either way, please contact me at saydmell.salazar@postudios.com, thanks for the support and admiration :)
Hey Say !
I've just sent you a mail...
Please receive my deepest apologize on behalf of the 'Silver Lining Game Fan Website' team.
'Hope to hear from you soon.
Way to go, guys. :)
three cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was so dissapointed when i heard the plug had been pulled on this project, great to hear its back!!! ;D
I failed Calculus... meh... Phoenix Online Studios's website looks slick though! ;D
I've asked a lot of people I know if they've heard of King's Quest before...and I'm the ONLY ONE!! WHY?! I need someone I know to be as hyped as I am!!
I don't know if you really want to archive all the places that have mentioned the silver lining...but I just did search on google with the text...
"the silver lining" "king's quest"
and it pulled up around 200 hits... Most of them actually are about the silver lining
Quote from: A Fan of yours on December 13, 2005, 02:22:06 PM
Quote from: Say on December 13, 2005, 12:45:10 PM
Would be great if you checked webmaster@silverlininggame.com sometimes :P either way, please contact me at saydmell.salazar@postudios.com, thanks for the support and admiration :)
Hey Say !
I've just sent you a mail...
Please receive my deepest apologize on behalf of the 'Silver Lining Game Fan Website' team.
'Hope to hear from you soon.
It is amazingly flattering how you guys are so wonderful with us, thank you so so much in behalf of all the POS team. I just received your email, and I will reply to you soon enough :)
I must reply to like 10 dfferent press media contacts first lol, but I'll get to yours, I promise :)
Tage,
It sucks you failed Calculus! :( And the best way to get someone you know hyped about it, is to get someone who likes video-games and talk him/her into Silver Lining, you'll see inmediatly they will be as hyped as you are ;)
Got a little press release from Just Adventure:
Click (http://www.justadventure.com/Press_Releases/KQ9Saved_Dec12_05.shtm)
wow thats great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
W00T!
I can't believe that it's gonna be released!
This has made my day.
Hallelujah and pas the PIE! congrats guys!
Yeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!
The power of the people!
Ooh, I'm so excited!
;D
Congratulations to everyone involved in this great project and in keeping it afloat!
I just found out about the project today (via the guys at Penny Arcade) and I am barely able to contain what can only be described as sheer jubilance. (Usually jubilance is opaque). In fact, I am barely able to even attempt to focus on work.
The KQ series is what started me gaming when I was 5 yrs. old. It was my favorite series growing up and holds a very special place in my heart. Silver lining looks to be more than worthy of the title. I only wish I had known sooner so I could have been more involved! At any rate, congrats again for the victory over the crazies who wanted to can the project and I can't wait to play!!! ;D
Hello Ninjes,
We're very happy the penny arcade community decided to comment about us, as well as we're glad to have you here. Thanks for the congratulations, hopefully we'll see more of you around!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
I'm so excited that the project is going forward! !!! I sent a thank-you e-mail to VU when I heard the news. Also deserving of thanks:
Cat and her work on the petition - thanks!! ;D
All the fans who wrote, signed the petition, and e-mailed VU.
and especially: The people at POS for doing this the "right" way. I'm pretty sure that if they hadn't been so cooperative when VU told them to stop, The Silver Lining would never have seen the light of day.
I look forward to the release of Shadows and the other parts!
Steve
You guys should see if you could get Mike and Jerry to write a strip about KQIX. ;D
Thanks, Steve. I know TSL Team work their tails off over the past few months. They deserve a standing ovation :)
Dilegua, o notte!
Tramontate, stelle!
All'alba vincero'!
VINCERO!!!!!!!!!!!!
VICTORY!
"Vincero" means "I will win", not "victory".
i had never heard about the kqix project until 2 days ago. imagine my suprise to read all the news and hype about "the silver lining"! let me just say.....
I CANT FRIGGIN WAIT!!!!!
it is going to be amazing. i wrote an email to vivendi yesterday to thank them. golly golly golly. i want to play it now! i am going to have to go into chryosleep til it comes out or my head will explode with excitement!
grats to everyone at pheonix! i am proud of you!
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on December 14, 2005, 02:33:01 PM
"Vincero" means "I will win", not "victory".
I'm an opera singer. I speak fluent italian. I was quoting "Nessun Dorma", because I thought it was a particularly triumphant aria and very fitting for the current situation. However, altering "Vincero" for "Vittoria" doesn't work, because you need three sillables.
Period.
Apologies. Just out of curiosity, have you ever performed in a production of Turandot?
Quote from: Moodyblues on December 12, 2005, 04:46:24 PMDo you mean "psychological" or "psychic?" ???
That would be "psychological".
*gives the TSL Team a standing ovation* ;)
The Silver Lining is now on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silver_Lining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silver_Lining)
WOW! That's when you know the project is good! ;D
There is something called Private Messages :P feel free to use them anytime! :D
Oh wow! we are on wikipedia! lol :)
Hi !
I was surfing accross the site I've previously mentioned to see if there was any update at all... I was surprised by this line
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[UPDATE 14/12/2005 - AWAITING FOR PHOENIX ONLINE STUDIOS AUTHORIZATION/REPLY]
...
They are great guys, seriously.
All they need to do is check their email ;) They just ran everything by us to see if it was alright and whatnot, how thoughtful is that? :)
It's not a strip... but The Silving Lining got mentioned on Penny Arcade's new's page. Here's the excerpt.
QuoteMost of us are probably still familiar with the term "Foxed," I imagine - it is the process by which your Aliens mod, done in reverence, a natural outgrowth of your obsessive enthusiasm for a corporation's intellectual property, gets you sent a terse communique on official letterhead. The old Cease and Desist, as it is called. No actual foxes are involved. I know there are still furs who read the site on occasion, and I apologize if I got your hopes up.
Since it is usually my presumption that things will go terribly awry, off the rails so to speak, possibly off a cliff to be submerged in lava, whenever I hear about a fan project - pure of heart, as I said, done only in reverence - I try to avoid mentioning it. I hate that, but if the powers that be can pinpoint a single S&M Strawberry Shortcake amongst the high-grown wilds of Interspace, I don't want to be the one to instigate a good and proper foxing. Again, just so there's no confusion - it's a neologism, jargon: class, legal. No foxes.
So it's actually kind of fun to mention King's Quest IX: The Silver Lining, because Vivendi Universal has (in what I find to be a startling manuever) given them the go ahead.
I hope that this "royal seal" draws talent out of hedges and holes that might otherwise have simply observed the process from a safe distance, outside what you might call the effective range of the legal apparatus. Such a game is like a no-cost expedition into the dark twists of Sierra's sleeping archive. If it produces a hit, a strike somewhere in that twilight realm, they already own the rights and can make excellent decisions regarding the franchise in the future.
- Mike "Tycho" Krahulik.
Sweet! ^-^
Rock on you sexy things.
Woah thank you, thank you guys :)
No offense, but that Wikipedia mention of TSL is hardly reminiscent of an encyclopedia entry. Â It's full of bias, opinion, and statements about the future. Â Encyclopedias are built on the nature of explaining things with fact, usually things that have already happened. Â Things that are coming for the future are reserved for news bulletins and announcements. Â Encyclopedias depict history and concrete ideals.
Of course, it is an online fan game, so the Wikipedia rules shall bend for TSL.
To be honest, it's amazing they ever consider us to be part of the encyclopedia. I never even thought we would get remotely close to an encyclopedia entry, wether it's bias or not, I feel quite impressed.
BTW, you should check your PM's GunHoMac :P
Just heard about this through the Penny Arcade Website, and all I can say is....
WHOOHOO!
I will be eagerly anticipating the release. Good luck and good job!
The project gets mentioned on IGN.com:
Link (http://pc.ign.com/articles/674/674825p1.html)
The thing about Wikipedia though...is that anyone can change it. Click on the edit button, and BOOM new content, deleted article, new article what have you.
So an article on Wikipedia only means you have a fan that hit a button, wrote a short article, and hit another button.
Sorry if I crushed your dreams. :-[
The reason I posted the Wikipedia link was to demonstrate that the word is spreading about the project, not to claim that the project had been bestowed with prestige of any kind.
Quote from: GunHoMac on December 15, 2005, 08:52:27 AM
No offense, but that Wikipedia mention of TSL is hardly reminiscent of an encyclopedia entry. Â It's full of bias, opinion, and statements about the future.
Not to mention, somewhat inaccurate:
Quote...Strongly influenced by Kings Quest VI, TSL shares its common themes. TSL will have a similar artistic style to KQVI, which should help it keep the "feel" of the King's Quest series in the eyes of its fans. Despite this, the choice of real-time 3D graphics (in the style of King's Quest: Mask of Eternity) over "pseudo 3D" 2D graphics (in the style of all the other King's Quest games) remains its greatest criticism.
Still, someone took the time to write it up. And you're also taking the time to discuss about it, however, I still feel good :P
Congratulations!
Hi !
I am one of the guys behind http://www.silverlininggame.com/ .
I am not sure if I am allowed to tell anything related with this URL/domain, but I think I may quote something Say told me :
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I'd love if you guys could get in touch with Cat Tyson (koko from the forums) and maybe even Matt Compton (leader of SaveKQIX) they both have done such a wonderful job, and once you launch whatever you want, somehow integrate efforts and combine a good community among yourselves.
I wish I could explain a bit more but I am not sure if I can do so right here.
So Cat and / or Matt, I'd really appreciate if you could get in touch with me : groure [AT] gmail [DOT] com ... I'll explain to you what we have in mind and see if we could cooperate in someway or another.
By the way, thanks Matt & Cat for SaveKQIX.org
Hoping to hear from you soon !
I feel quoted!! :)
And please contact them directly and discuss in private. Over here would get offtopic and then we'd have to move it somewhere else ;)
Sorry about that Say; didn't want to cause any trouble at all...
Cat allready contacted me, so we should leave coments out of this forum :)
Back on topic...
I am really exited about TSL ! Congrats on this "victory" and thanks VUG for your open mind
Whoa there, sorry I dropped in so late :P
This is great news! Now I still get to do my bit as the ol' blacksmith which I was so looking forward to doing :D
<ahem> is this thing on? <taps..ermm..the keyboard>
Cat sent a message (I suppose you all know that) asking us to post at Gamespot to gather more publicity at the game. I was thinking...and already have..written to XPlay on G4TV to request they consider publishing on their show about Vivindi's decision, which to me is nothing more than groundbreaking. Since everyone (except me that seems, but that is a LONG story as to why, if it comforts you I had $63.40 in Library fines as well...heh) got together and wrote letters to Vivendi about KQ9, maybe everyone can spa...write emails to XPlay requesting they put it on their show.
Their email address is: xplay@g4tv.com.
You can also find it on their website. What better way to get publicity than to get the game on TV?
Thanks,
Rune
Yohey... seems like VU got caught in what we like to call The Christmas Spirit ;)
I had almost forgotten, growing old(er) and all that.
Anyway, congratulations to the team (perhaps I should congratulate us, the fans, instead... since it's us who'll be getting our hands on the shiny product bwehehehehe)! Truly heartwarming.
TV, now that's ambitious!
Anyhow, here's something to share.
Thank you Allen Rausch from Gamespy for this :)
GAMESPY Interview (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/freeware-king8217s-quest-ix/677071p1.html)
Read it up!
Hi all gotta a quick question, I saw the article yesterday with some updated photos. Does this website have any more video clips from the trailer by chance? If so can anyone tell me if the trailer is still around or is there an updated one coming soon? I am really eager for this game. I am so excited that you all won and Vivendi finally came to their senses and realized they missed out on creating one of the coolest games in the world!
Ok so I am pumped for you all on this team, and I hope you all have a merry christmas and happy holidays to everyone else!
Russ
IAgamer2524
When will the journal be updated to reflect the fact that the game is now continuing? Also, I hope this game will run on Windows 98.
WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is all.
Quote from: Say on December 17, 2005, 12:07:33 AM
TV, now that's ambitious!
Anyhow, here's something to share.
Thank you Allen Rausch from Gamespy for this :)
GAMESPY Interview (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/freeware-king8217s-quest-ix/677071p1.html)
Read it up!
That pic of the map is really beautiful. Almost just like KQ6, only better.
:suffer: I CANT TAKE THIS EXCITEMENT ANYMORE. ;D
KQ9 RULES, whooopeeee. ;D
So I heard about how there was going to be a new King's Quest from one of the customers who came into the store I work at (a video game store) a couple months ago. We ended up having a long discussion about the whole thing and how great adventure games are and roberta jordan and etc. And I was so happy. And then I was reading Penny Arcade where there was a post about how you guys had been given the leagal go ahead. WHAT! How come I only find out that my most favorite things in the world need help AFTER they no longer need help?
SO happy that everything is going to work out. So happy for a real KQ. (what exactly was 8 supposed to be anyway?) Thankyou to everbody who made this happen since I (so obviously) didn't.
Interesting quote from the Gamespy article:
the company reserves the right to bring the game in-house if they feel there are commercial possibilities for it
Are you able to elaborate on this at all? Does this mean that you would complete the game and have Vivendi sell it commercially (which I certainly wouldn't object to), or that Vivendi might take the game and complete it themselves (which I'm very uneasy about)?
Quote from: Stan on December 17, 2005, 01:21:51 AM
When will the journal be updated to reflect the fact that the game is now continuing? Also, I hope this game will run on Windows 98.
The best way to figure out if the game will run on your system would be to download and run the demo (http://www.garagegames.com/pg/demo.php?id=1) of the Torque Engine that is being used for
The Silver Lining
Wow, I'm only halfway through the interview. So far, it's amazing! :D
Quote from: Rune_of_Westhaven on December 16, 2005, 07:44:01 AM
<ahem> is this thing on? <taps..ermm..the keyboard>
Cat sent a message (I suppose you all know that) asking us to post at Gamespot to gather more publicity at the game. I was thinking...and already have..written to XPlay on G4TV to request they consider publishing on their show about Vivindi's decision, which to me is nothing more than groundbreaking. Since everyone (except me that seems, but that is a LONG story as to why, if it comforts you I had $63.40 in Library fines as well...heh) got together and wrote letters to Vivendi about KQ9, maybe everyone can spa...write emails to XPlay requesting they put it on their show.
Their email address is: xplay@g4tv.com.
You can also find it on their website. What better way to get publicity than to get the game on TV?
Thanks,
Rune
Woah! Being on X-Play would be awesome!
The Game is in three parts right, what i want to know is.
Will we play Graham in Part one, Rosella in Part two and Alexander in Part 3 as the main Characters.
I think it's Graham in part one, and Rosella and Alexander in part 2. In part 3...All 3 of them?
Nice article! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think these are the first in-game screenshots we have presented to the public. Hope you liked them! :) These are all from the demo that we showed to VU Games. It's our ambition to make it look better than this in the finished game.
Talk about a NICE XMas present. Â ;D How'd you get Santa to pull such a miracle?! Wow, all was looking grim for a bit but I'm glad I didn't lose hope. You phoenix people are incredible! Best of luck on finishing the game and happy holidays!
Alright, everyone's got something to say so, I'll do my best to reply to you all, here goes.
IAgamer2524QuoteI saw the article yesterday with some updated photos. Does this website have any more video clips from the trailer by chance?
We haven't updated the website just yet, we're still working on it. So far whatever you can sneak-peek on the interviews, just go for it. We will incorporate those eventually.
QuoteIf so can anyone tell me if the trailer is still around or is there an updated one coming soon? I am really eager for this game.
Yes, the trailer is here -> KQIX Trailers (http://www.adventure-eu.com/index.php?option=com_repository&Itemid=62&cat_id=3&game_id=42)
QuoteI am so excited that you all won and Vivendi finally came to their senses and realized they missed out on creating one of the coolest games in the world!
Thank you :)
TribeHasSpokenQuote
Interesting quote from the Gamespy article:
"the company reserves the right to bring the game in-house if they feel there are commercial possibilities for it"
Are you able to elaborate on this at all? Does this mean that you would complete the game and have Vivendi sell it commercially (which I certainly wouldn't object to), or that Vivendi might take the game and complete it themselves (which I'm very uneasy about)?
Interesting question, Tribe. We all read the same as you did, all I can tell you is that Allen spoke to Marcus about this (he requested the contact info and we provided it) and, it's quite nice to know how they feel about us, maybe they do have quite a positive good feelings about POS, after all. Do keep in mind, we're still in legal discussions as it goes, we just got permission to say to the world what happened, but it's still not over, so we just can't say at the moment.
StanQuoteWhen will the journal be updated to reflect the fact that the game is now continuing? Also, I hope this game will run on Windows 98.
Asn soon as we have the oportunity for it, don't worry we will.
Thanks everyone else for the sweet comments :)
Quote from: Rosella on December 17, 2005, 09:51:42 AM
I think it's Graham in part one, and Rosella and Alexander in part 2. In part 3...All 3 of them?
Where did that info come from? :o :S
As I was lead to believe, each part of the trilogy is divided into 3 chapters (the whole game has 9 chapters), and you don't play the same character in all of 3 those. Besides, a voice clip of Alex and Sarah was released, so it probably means you get to play Alex in the first part as well :-\
Just a little note on compabilty...
Being just a fan project, we are far from the technology level of commercial games currently in development for the latest platforms, but we do our best. Currently our game doesn't use hardware shaders for instance, but it's certainly not impossible that parts 2 and 3 will push it up a notch. It's all too early to say, but already I would answer questions such as "will it run on Windows 98" with a "do not set your hopes up high for that". If you still have a below 1GHz PC with a graphics card several years old and still run Windows 98 or something like that, you can probably not even run the Torque demo. Torque isn't exactly the fastest thing around but we're doing our best to make the game as compatible to everyone's hardware as possible. Keep in mind though that we don't have the time and resources to test for compability as commercial companies. I hope not too many of you will have problems but if you have an old PC and really want to be able to play our game at its best, I hope you have the chance to upgrade your system in 2006. Maybe a TSL-capable PC would be something to ask Santa for? ;)
Quote from: Storm on December 17, 2005, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Rosella on December 17, 2005, 09:51:42 AM
I think it's Graham in part one, and Rosella and Alexander in part 2. In part 3...All 3 of them?
Where did that info come from? :o :S
As I was lead to believe, each part of the trilogy is divided into 3 chapters (the whole game has 9 chapters), and you don't play the same character in all of 3 those. Besides, a voice clip of Alex and Sarah was released, so it probably means you get to play Alex in the first part as well :-\
I remember the 3 chapters per section, but I'm pretty sure you only play Graham in the first section...Er, help? XD
Quote from: Petter Holmberg on December 17, 2005, 02:34:53 PMIf you still have a below 1GHz PC with a graphics card several years old and still run Windows 98 or something like that, you can probably not even run the Torque demo.
I've got a 400Mhz PC with a 32Mb graphics card, running Windows 98. The Torque demo runs just fine on it :)
Quote from: Storm on December 17, 2005, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Rosella on December 17, 2005, 09:51:42 AM
I think it's Graham in part one, and Rosella and Alexander in part 2. In part 3...All 3 of them?
Where did that info come from? :o :S
As I was lead to believe, each part of the trilogy is divided into 3 chapters (the whole game has 9 chapters), and you don't play the same character in all of 3 those. Besides, a voice clip of Alex and Sarah was released, so it probably means you get to play Alex in the first part as well :-\
I think it was announced as part of the Anniversary chat/announcement. I always assumed the Alexander/Sarah sound clip was part of a cutscene not involving the playable character at that time. In fact, the Graham/Edgar clip is probably also a cutscene, given that we hear Edgar's internal monologue.
Quote from: Storm on December 17, 2005, 02:53:29 PM
I've got a 400Mhz PC with a 32Mb graphics card, running Windows 98. The Torque demo runs just fine on it :)
Well if that isn't an eardrum-piercing cry for an upgrade, then I don't know what is. They've decided to scrap the project and start over using the Doom 3 engine. That's right...nothing less than 1GB of DDRAM with a 3.4 GHz P4 D-Chipset and nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX graphics card will do.
It amuses me that with computers you are always expected to spend money to upgrade or replace them every few years even if they still work fine for your purposes.
let me clear up some things here.
Rosella is right, you get to play Graham in part 1, Alexander and Rosella in part 2 and all three of them in part 3.
The clip from Alexander/Sarah is actually from "The Two that are One". Yes, like we've said before, we are focused on part 1, but have been doing a lot of work on parts 2 and 3 as well.
Quote from: Storm on December 17, 2005, 02:53:29 PMI've got a 400Mhz PC with a 32Mb graphics card, running Windows 98. The Torque demo runs just fine on it :)
Whoa, that's unexpected... GarageGames lists a PIII 500 MHz with 128 MB RAM as a minimum requirement. I've had problems with a faster system than that. I should mention that TSL will probably be a bit more system-demanding than a stock Torque game, but not a lot. I agree with Stan's comment about system upgrades, but in this case the purpose would be to play the game, so it's at least fair to tell you what to expect. :)
Kind friends on the KQIX team,
I'm a longtime visitor (since late 2002?) of this site, but a firsttime poster. Up until the project got (temporarily) canned, I didn't really feel like I had much to contribute, but I hope you know that I was always supportive of your efforts, albeit silently. When I read of the Cease and Desist order several weeks back, I meant to post a quick note of thanks and encouragement for all the work that the staff has put in. Unfortunately, life being what it is, I never got a chance to post that note; for that, I sincerly apologize. (I did, however, take the time to write Vivendi a lengthy note explaining my feelings regarding the C&D)
Now that you've weathered the storm, though, it seems that the C&D has become the second-best* thing to happen to the KQIX project. All the publicity it has received as a result is phenomenal. I've read numerous posters saying that they never knew this existed until after all the Internet media coverage of your success against the C&D. While support of the project has always been ever-increasing, there seems to be a surge in increased support post-C&D.
* Yes, I said that the C&D was the second-best thing to happen to the KQIX project. The best thing has, and always will be, its dedicated team.
This comes largely as a result of your tireless efforts--not just to design the game, but to interact with the fans and the corporate executives of Vivendi. The reason for your success is because you've never settled for mediocrity, but have always gone far beyond the call of duty. You have a solid fan base because you genuinely care about them, and they want to see the success of your project. You prevailed with Vivendi when they realized your game wasn't just a lackluster portrayal of the King's Quest Series, but a work of beauty unto itself.
I think I speak for all of the fans when I say that King's Quest has touched us in an indescribable--but profound--way. My first adventure game was not King's Quest, but rather The Black Cauldron (also created by Sierra). I played the game everyday as a child with my parents until we beat it. But, what's more, I was so moved by the storyline (as a very young boy) that I cried when Gurgi sacrificed his life to prevent the destruction of the world.
Before you make fun of me for my tears, I beg you to consider your own experiences with King's Quest and adventure gaming in general. The storyline and lessons taught by the King's Quest series were always poignant. A lot of who I am today was shaped by the lessons in the game during my childhood and adolescense. It instilled in me a belief that any task is solveable--with the proper amount of effort and perseverance, and even cleverness. Furthermore, the philosophy of love embedded in the game was often touching, and continues to touch me in everyday life.
You see, it's not just a game, no matter what outsiders may say of it. It has shaped my life in a profound way, as it has many other users on this site. And your continued efforts to revive the game have always left me in awe.
In the MTV article posted earlier in this thread, César was asked if he regretted all the sleepless nights he endured for the project, only to have a C&D order slapped on him. His response was, "I don't complain. I love this. I would do it a thousand times." Your willingness to bring this to the community, even in light of everything that occurred, is admirable.
Thank you. And may The Silver Lining always prevail.
Matt Vassar
I doubt anyone here would make fun of your tears, Matt. Though I've never shown it as you have, there have definitely been moments in Sierra games that have moved me deeply, such as Toby's sacrifice in Quest For Glory IV - Shadows of Darkness, Edgar sliding the rose (and key) under Rosella's foor in King's Quest IV - The Perils of Rosella and the announcement of Jack's daughter's death in Police Quest I - In Search of the Death Angel
Ok, ok i need to ask yall something. Will alexander have the genie that he got in KQ6? cuz you can ether get it in the game or not. (my sister and i where disscussing it so we need you to help us ;D)
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on December 18, 2005, 05:40:39 AM
I doubt anyone here would make fun of your tears, Matt. Though I've never shown it as you have, there have definitely been moments in Sierra games that have moved me deeply, such as Toby's sacrifice in Quest For Glory IV - Shadows of Darkness, Edgar sliding the rose (and key) under Rosella's foor in King's Quest IV - The Perils of Rosella and the announcement of Jack's daughter's death in Police Quest I - In Search of the Death Angel
Yeah, the announcment about her being in ICU really killed me. As did QFG4, not only Toby, but Katrina aswell, when she sacrifices herself for the hero. I've played BC before and never experienced Gurgy's dieing, but rather I pushed the Horned King into the cauldron himself....
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on December 17, 2005, 03:09:04 PM
Quote from: Storm on December 17, 2005, 02:31:56 PM
Quote from: Rosella on December 17, 2005, 09:51:42 AM
I think it's Graham in part one, and Rosella and Alexander in part 2. In part 3...All 3 of them?
Where did that info come from? :o :S
As I was lead to believe, each part of the trilogy is divided into 3 chapters (the whole game has 9 chapters), and you don't play the same character in all of 3 those. Besides, a voice clip of Alex and Sarah was released, so it probably means you get to play Alex in the first part as well :-\
I think it was announced as part of the Anniversary chat/announcement. I always assumed the Alexander/Sarah sound clip was part of a cutscene not involving the playable character at that time. In fact, the Graham/Edgar clip is probably also a cutscene, given that we hear Edgar's internal monologue.
I thought that it was 3 chapters in each game with a different character for each chapter.
*wonders where people are getting this info from*
And I agree with THS, I thought they were just cutscenes.
IMO, the Edgar/Graham clip might be a cutscene, but the Alex/Sarah one sounds like a dialogue :-\
From Cesar just a few posts up:
Quote from: César_Bittar on December 17, 2005, 10:57:34 PM
let me clear up some things here.
Rosella is right, you get to play Graham in part 1, Alexander and Rosella in part 2 and all three of them in part 3.
The clip from Alexander/Sarah is actually from "The Two that are One". Yes, like we've said before, we are focused on part 1, but have been doing a lot of work on parts 2 and 3 as well.
From Cesar in the birthday chat:
QuotePart 1 focuses on Graham's adventure as a Dark Enchantment befalls the lands of the Green Isles in the middle of a big celebration...Part 2 follows Alexander and Rosella as they search for a mysterious prophecy they seem to be part of...and part three brings the three characters together.
Reading is a skill...use it! ;)
Random memory is a skill too! :P
Reading + Random Memory= SUPAH SKILL!
To me, the feelings experienced following the death and rebirth of KQIX/The Silver Lining are nicely summed up by the following quotes:
KQIX shut down - Hindenburg disaster (http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vohind.ram)
It burst into flames! … It's burning and it's crashing! It's crashing, terrible! Oh my! Get out of the way, please! It's burning, bursting into flames and is falling on the mooring mast, and all the folks between... oh, this is terrible. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world! … It's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen, it's smoke and it's flames, now, and the frame is crashing to the ground, not quite to the mooring mast…Oh, the humanity!
TSL reborn - Miracle on Ice (http://www.economyofeffort.com/media/miracle.avi)
Eleven seconds, you got ten seconds, the countdown going on right now...Morrow up to Silk...five seconds left in the game! Do you believe in miracles? YES!!!
Quote from: Matt Vassar on December 18, 2005, 04:54:43 AM
You see, it's not just a game, no matter what outsiders may say of it. It has shaped my life in a profound way, as it has many other users on this site. And your continued efforts to revive the game have always left me in awe.
Matt Vassar
next up, POS cures cancer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
nah but seriously, im pretty amazed too at what the guys at POS have managed to achieve (not to mention being a first-time poster as well, greetings all!!!! ;) ). keep up the good work guys!!!!
Hello Everyone!
This is my first post to the forums. I'm so elated that the project is back on, that I'm making everyone here a 'present' of sorts. Hopefully it'll be done in time for Christmas. Keep your eyes peeled for a link to it.
Cheers to all.
Quote from: Matt Vassar on December 18, 2005, 04:54:43 AM
I think I speak for all of the fans when I say that King's Quest has touched us in an indescribable--but profound--way. A lot of who I am today was shaped by the lessons in the game during my childhood and adolescense. It instilled in me a belief that any task is solveable--with the proper amount of effort and perseverance, and even cleverness. Furthermore, the philosophy of love embedded in the game was often touching, and continues to touch me in everyday life.
You see, it's not just a game, no matter what outsiders may say of it. It has shaped my life in a profound way, as it has many other users on this site. And your continued efforts to revive the game have always left me in awe.
I understand your point...but a wee bit over the top for a video game series. I sincerely hope the lessons in life came from elsewhere besides an 8-bit king hunting for three treasures. I'm fairly certain that life would go on unscathed if this game was never made...just less exciting.
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on December 18, 2005, 05:40:39 AM
I doubt anyone here would make fun of your tears, Matt.
hehe, that was just me being silly. Don't mind me too much. :)
Quote from: Kiph on December 18, 2005, 10:50:16 PM
not to mention being a first-time poster as well
Much love to my fellow firsttimer. :)
Oh, wait. Now I'm a twotime poster (a dirty, twotiming poster :P).
Quote from: GunHoMac on December 19, 2005, 12:58:34 AM
I understand your point...but a wee bit over the top for a video game series. I sincerely hope the lessons in life came from elsewhere besides an 8-bit king hunting for three treasures.
Well, I stand corrected. I guess I don't speak for everyone when I claimed that this has positively affected our lives. :)
Seriously, though, if psychological studies and the media are justified in claiming that violent video games such as Doom result in the desensizing of today's youth and a corresponding increase in overall violence, then I'm more than justified in pointing to the positive impacts that King's Quest had on my life and the lives of many other players. Don't discount the psychological impact of play and games (especially educational games) on a child.
-M
Quote from: Matt Vassar on December 19, 2005, 05:11:06 AM
Seriously, though, if psychological studies and the media are justified in claiming that violent video games such as Doom result in the desensizing of today's youth and a corresponding increase in overall violence...
King's Quest and TSL are games designed with thought, planning, and a goal for challenging your mind and presenting a great story to follow. However, those kinds of studies really have no justification. They're just an excuse for why people do bad things when plenty of other people play those games or watch those movies and DON'T hurt anyone.
Naturally KQ had an impact on everyone here, and TSL is the hope for the future in adventure gaming. However you feel though, it's still just a game...someone will do something great and bad in life, but I'm fairly certain neither will have anything to do with the linings that are silver, king's that quest, or demons from hell.
I dunno... games, like any event experienced in life, can have an impact on the viewer which may change their outlook on life and the way they deal with it. Personally, I'd say that at least partially, how I look at the world, was shaped by Quest for Glory. Wages of War (part 3) specifically, with the way Rakeesh explained the philosophys and ambitions of the Paladin. The lesson of following the right path, rather than the lawful or socially acceptable path - being particularly strong.
Granted, it wasn't my only influence in that reguard (my father, who grew up with the ideals of John F. Kennedy and the Civil Rights movement was probably the most influencial to me), but it was a damned strong reinforcement.
In a way, the King's Quest IX project is an example of that as well. Pheonix Online Studios was well outside of the law when they started/re-started the project, and they knew it. Yet their efforts brought a great deal of hope and joy to many people all over the world. It wasn't the lawful thing to do, but it was the RIGHT thing to do. In the end, while they did follow the law, they fought to get the project approved and to make Vivendi Universal also see that it was the right decision.
POS did something quite amazing, and their efforts along with VU's cooperation have had a subtle, yet profound effect on the game development industry. If this turns out favorably for VU (and I believe it will), it sets a precedence for other game producing corperations to follow - allowing more and more fan projects of other games - which will in turn make other fan communities happy.
So yes, I can see at least partial justification in Matt's point.
It is great news to read. I have been waiting for so long, go ahead
continue working because there are many fans just like me, waiting for all this time the next part of the game.
Please hurry I want to play the game.
is it still going to be free?
Quote from: some guy on December 20, 2005, 06:13:09 AM
is it still going to be free?
Well kinda.... You must first give them your IMMORTAL SOUL :suffer:.
but i don't have a soul. but i have sanity can i post it on the alysium to get the game?
Hahah, nice one TrueCrusader :P
Hey everyone! Not so sure how many of you do speak spanish but here goes:
Jon Adventure Interview (http://www.jon-aventure.net/interview_phoenix_1.htm)
Our very first super exclusive interview in spanish. Thank to Jon for being so kind and supportive with the spanish speaker community.
Go read! and enjoy!! :)
(and for those who may not understand spanish, go check it out anyhow, it's got screenshots! :))
AND it has a picture of Say! :P
It's fun to try to understand if you don't know Spanish anyway. "Yo estoy sin palabras le sigo diciendo a Say "OMG, OMG, OMG!!!" " XD
lol, Cesar looks so rugged :) Say, as beautimous as ever ever!
Again, the screenshots look absolutely amazing. I'm sure I've told several of you that before :P
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Why did i look at those screenshots!! :-[
Now i want to play it even more :'(
By the way, it wouldn't hurt no one if you put a donate button on the front page!! ;)
Go phoenix!!
lol, unfortunately, the team can't put a donate button up...they're not allowed to make any money off this game.
Right? At least, that's the last thing I heard.
Great interview! Some english words incrusted... nevermind ;D
Well... you two resquested someone from the spaniard community, I'm here. ;)
Waiting always orders ;) (and play the game 8) )
Quote from: GunHoMac on December 19, 2005, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Matt Vassar on December 19, 2005, 05:11:06 AM
Seriously, though, if psychological studies and the media are justified in claiming that violent video games such as Doom result in the desensizing of today's youth and a corresponding increase in overall violence...
King's Quest and TSL are games designed with thought, planning, and a goal for challenging your mind and presenting a great story to follow. However, those kinds of studies really have no justification. They're just an excuse for why people do bad things when plenty of other people play those games or watch those movies and DON'T hurt anyone.
I agree! The people that are violent in RL would have already had thoughts of being violent (or already are violent). Most violent videogames are a good way to release anger. :D
Hey everyone, I'm so so glad you liked it even though you didn't get to understand much of it :P
Rosella,
OMG I know, it's just that OMG is so catchy it's like... impossible to get rid of hahaha I can't believe he left that there :D
Franzrogar,
I got your email earlier on! I need to get to it and reply, btw, I had no idea you were from Spain, so so NICE to have someone else hanging around that also speaks spanish. And even much nicer the fact that you'd love to cowork with translations :) We shall discuss that!
Storm,
Where are you girl? :P I need you! email me at saydmell.salazar@postudios.com, please :)
Exciting as this is, there are many more to come :)
Quote from: Faeryprince on December 19, 2005, 12:26:10 AM
Hello Everyone!
This is my first post to the forums. I'm so elated that the project is back on, that I'm making everyone here a 'present' of sorts. Hopefully it'll be done in time for Christmas. Keep your eyes peeled for a link to it.
Cheers to all.
Today is... 20th, so... mmm, sorry to disappoint you my friend, but no it won't be done in a week :(
Quote from: Say on December 20, 2005, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: Faeryprince on December 19, 2005, 12:26:10 AM
Hello Everyone!
This is my first post to the forums. I'm so elated that the project is back on, that I'm making everyone here a 'present' of sorts. Hopefully it'll be done in time for Christmas. Keep your eyes peeled for a link to it.
Cheers to all.
Today is... 20th, so... mmm, sorry to disappoint you my friend, but no it won't be done in a week :(
Err... Say, I think you misread the post. It's Faeryprince who promised to make a Christmas present. :)
*reads again*
OH! :D
A present for us? really??
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on December 20, 2005, 12:05:57 PM
lol, unfortunately, the team can't put a donate button up...they're not allowed to make any money off this game.
Right? At least, that's the last thing I heard.
Oh yeah, I missed this big time. And yes Koko, you're right. No, we're not making profit, although we're spending big time!.
Whoever who wants to donate, donate time and stick around and give us moral support :)
*gets pompoms and starts doing cheers for POS* XD
Quote from: franzrogar on December 20, 2005, 12:54:14 PM
Great interview! Some english words incrusted... nevermind ;D
Well... you two resquested someone from the spaniard community, I'm here. ;)
Waiting always orders ;) (and play the game 8) )
You are a hard type. . . in the glass jungle ;D
Si hablas español y quieres charlar un rato, te dejo mi dirección de messenger : jon_aventure@hotmail.com.
And remembers that there is a lag time schedule of 6 hours.
This is worth for everybody :)
Quote from: some guy on December 20, 2005, 06:13:09 AM
is it still going to be free?
According to project manager, Yes it still going to be free!
....Unless Vivendi decides to market it.
lol, interesting...someone emailed me a copy of a letter, the second one, they got from Vivendi. I thought I'd post it. :P
Maybe you should bleep out her name hun, unless she doesn't mind :P
Oops...fixed now :)
Woot, hun! ;D
This is fantastic news! Does this mean I finally get to record my lines?????? :) :) :)
Hi Everyone,
This is my first time writing.I usually just read.Don't know if I'm doing this right.I'm the one who got that letter from Vivendi. It is ok to post my name.Looking forward to the games release.
Hey everyone, great news! Had a feeling that Vivendi was only trying to protect their TM on KQ, and was not intentionally trying to destroy lots of work.
Not a huge poster here, but I was a voice actor for the game, and haven't been able to read through all the posts... are all the VO's going to be used, or has script writting and re-casting been done to meet VU's approval of continuation of developement? If this has already been stated, sorry.
Tekcon,
Don't apologize, we haven't really made any official comment just yet :) About the VO material. So far we haven't found any inconvenient to continue with it (about the negotiations with VU so far), so, I asume there's no problem about it. We haven't changed script/characters or such, and we won't re-cast either. We shall contact the actors as soon as convenient, so, don't worry about it :).
Rock on, I'll keep posted ;D
Quote from: Sinue on December 19, 2005, 07:11:36 PM
games, like any event experienced in life, can have an impact on the viewer which may change their outlook on life [...] [H]ow I look at the world, was shaped by Quest for Glory [...] The lesson of following the right path, rather than the lawful or socially acceptable path - being particularly strong.
So yes, I can see at least partial justification in Matt's point.
nod - thank you for sharing your personal experiences on the impact of gaming on your worldview. I think that this neatly rebuts the claims of those skeptics who argue that a game is just a game and nothing more.
Nah...game is still just a game...but game on.
I am proud of all of the fans and Phinox Online Studios who overcame the odds and brought this game back to life.
I still can't believe the game is back on! *Joins Rosella in dancing and cheering on POS*
I don't get it. Â Things like this aren't supposed to happen. Â All logic says we are supposed to be dead.
Yay :) I am very happy this game will be created... I hope to see a demo or something soon :)
Ummm I don't know if this is right or not but before silverlininggame.com was linked to this I seem to remember it saying The Silver Lining The Official Sequel To The King's Quest Series. Was this correct? Just wondering.
Yes, indeed (you're not going crazy just yet!)
Apparently we have a group of fans organizing something now, they purchased that domain and they were going to create a fan-website. Although, they were kind and humble to provide that url to us in order to get something much more appropiated to their fan group :)
Regardless, they have POS blessing to do such :)
so does that mean that it's going to marketed if it's official and if vivendi thinks it's official?
Haha, I've got no idea how you connect the url to that matter. Anyhow, what is going to be marketed? TSL? So far we've applied marketing techniques to get along with promotions, organization and whatnot without getting a cent back. Now comercial would be to get something back, and IF that happens or not is not up to us anymore, it is indeed Vivendi's call.
So far, all we want is to get TSL out. And yes, it's going to be freeware as far as we all are aware.
So if VU gets to choose the release date, it couldf be sometime next winter couldn't it?
i meant sold not marketed
Well VU is not 'choosing' anything per se, the situation is that, whatever happen to TSL is not just out call anymore. And yes, Shadows will be free. :)
I want to know something. ???
If the Black Cloak were never mencioned in KQ5 & KQ6, (www.sierraplanet.com/curiosities/kingsquest/wizards.html (http://www.sierraplanet.com/curiosities/kingsquest/wizards.html)) would KQ9 still be made. ???
I mean, what other Questions did the KQ Games not answer for KQ9 to be made. ???
I think the main reason for TSL is the fact that so many people were disappointed with MoE not so much the unanswered questions. But putting MoE and all the unanswered questions and about 4 years without anything happening with the series is what made TSL happen.
are you saying we will be able to download a free version of TSL somewhere??? I'm confused. I thought we would have to buy it.???!!!
Merry Christmas to all
Hey all i wanted to wish everyone on this forum a merry christmas and a happy holiday season. I am so happy that 2006 is almost here because then maybe (hint hint) by easter maybe that shadows will be released right Caesar? Just kidding not trying to be a trouble maker here just super excited, and Thank you again for the website again for the trailer sorry I don't always post I will try to more often but I am really busy being in school right now and now that I have off for a few weeks I'm enjoying my break.
Talk to you all soon, and when is the next updates going to be happening after christmas sometime in the first of the year?
thanks,
Russ
QuoteHey all i wanted to wish everyone on this forum a merry christmas and a happy holiday season.
A very merry christmass and a happy new year for you too!
Hey, I know this is completley OT but I was wondering is there any way I can help the KQIX team at all?? I cant program/make games or anything like that, but is there even the smallest job i could do to help speed up production and make it easier for the team?
The Hero6 community said that they need people to animate Sprites for them and anyone can do that, Would I be able to do the same thing here??
What is there that the team needs so I can help them?
Quote from: friendoftheking on December 27, 2005, 12:16:33 AM
Hey, I know this is completley OT but I was wondering is there any way I can help the KQIX team at all?? I cant program/make games or anything like that, but is there even the smallest job i could do to help speed up production and make it easier for the team?
The Hero6 community said that they need people to animate Sprites for them and anyone can do that, Would I be able to do the same thing here??
What is there that the team needs so I can help them?
Hi friendoftheking
If you want to help out, please go to the join page (http://www.tsl-game.com/join/positions/), and browse through the applications of your choice. Select one, and (depending on your experience/quality of artwork) you will be invited to have an interview.
Thanks
Will it be in consoles (PS3, XBOX, NGC...) too?
I haven't visited here in a while, so I just heard the good news.
Congratulations! This is so awesome! I wait anxiously for the release of part one!
I will also send a thank you letter to Vivendi once I'm at my own computer.
I know you guys get this a lot, but im damned sure you havent gotten it enough:
THANKS SO MUCH! You guys rock!
(please continue to rock on into the new year)
Forever in your debt,
Geshtu
QuoteWill it be in consoles (PS3, XBOX, NGC...) too?
I highly doubt it since PS2, NGC, and Xbox development kits are probably still rather expensive right now - and I think the team is more focused primarily on getting the PC version done. Though, that doesn't mean that a small contingent of POS fans won't eventually port the title to certain consoles sometime in the future.
I think a Dreamcast version would be increadibly cool. There's plenty of documentation on Dreamcast programming, the WinCE optional development library should make PC to DC ports a snap, and the system only costs about $40 now - which is cool considering it's currently the only console which supports native VGA out and it already has a backlog of some pretty highly reguarded (though a bit old) games. Keyboards and Mice should be easy to come by as well - since Sega really pushed the Internet portal functionality.
Plus, due to a little "glitch" Sega left in it - you wouldn't need to mod the console or infringe on Sega's IP by including their boot sequence. Oh.. and there's already an opensource AGI as well as an SCI interpreter - so you can play most of your original King's Quest games on it as well.
It may also be possible to run it on a properly modded Xbox - but that's all I have to say on that subject.
Quote from: Walden on December 22, 2005, 04:44:29 PM
I don't get it. Things like this aren't supposed to happen. All logic says we are supposed to be dead.
On this website, logic doesn't apply! ;) If you keep optimistic and good things can and do happen! ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Vger6 on December 27, 2005, 01:33:08 PM
Will it be in consoles (PS3, XBOX, NGC...) too?
Unless Vivendi releases it commercially, it can't be on consoles. There is no such thing as a free, legal console game, so while I guess POS could technically release it on consoles illegally, everyone would know now that they have tons of media coverage and a deal with VUG, and they'd get in a lot of trouble. It would be quite stupid actually.
QuoteThere is no such thing as a free, legal console game, so while I guess POS could technically release it on consoles illegally, everyone would know now that they have tons of media coverage and a deal with VUG, and they'd get in a lot of trouble. It would be quite stupid actually.
That's not quite true. I believe it's only illegal to -SELL- a console game without licencing. However homebrew and other forms of freeware are perfectly acceptable within certain limits set by the copyright holders of the console you're planning to develop for. Sony, for instance - has released two development studios for their PlayStation line. The "Yarozee" I believe, was the one for the PSX - and a limited edition Linux PS2 Development kit was made available for the public.
I don't believe that Microsoft is openly supportive of homebrew games and applications on the Xbox/Xbox360 - however they're generally not very adamant about going after homebrew developers and modders (so long as they don't try to access XboxLive) as I'm pretty sure they use ideas originating in the homebrew community to test market features for their peripherals and next-generation hardware.
Nintendo... well, they've always been a very controlling company - as evident by their choice of game media these past few generations. There really is no substancial homebrew community for the GameCube or N64 - nor will there be for the Revolution I presume.
Sega though, has really been very open and supportive of the home-brew community since their withdrawl from the hardware market. They've openly supported home development as a way to keep the Dreamcast legacy alive, and ocassionally some of these projects still end up seeing commercial release in Japan. (I.E., If Vivendi bought the rights to a TSL DC port and tried to sell it) It is, after all, a machine built for entertainment - and since Sega no longer makes any real money off of it - they feel their fans and supporters should enjoy it as they see fit.
Things may have changed since the Sammy merger - so a call to Sega of America or Sega of Japan (if you can speak Japanese) would still be prudent. However, I doubt Sammy has much concern on the topic considering how strong the DC homebrew community still is.
So on the plus side - Sega would be a much easier company to deal with concerning these matters than either Sony, MS, or Nintendo. (Expecially since their consoles are still in production) That kind of fan-oriented easy-going buisness attitude is just how they are - which may be part of why I never remember hearing Ken Williams (or other Sierra employees/Sierra publications) complain about Sega the way he did about Nintendo. In a way, they shared the same basic philosphy.
On the downside: The Dreamcast is getting harder and harder to find. Not many people have one, and it may be a bit difficult to gain access to a cheap used model since collectors have been buying them up recently. Enough so, that Sega is re-issuing refurbished Dreamcasts with new-erlease pack-in game. (Japan only, though, unfortunately)
Does anyone know what the system requirements are? I have a pretty old computer, and I'd like to know if I'll still be able to play??
I was so happy when I read it on your site that I jumped up a shouted.
I've been going to this site almost everyday starting in fall 2005.
I never really got excited enough to post on a site intil now.
So far as I know nobody really gave me a welcome though... ::)
Any release of TSL onto a console system would have to conform to very specific standards set by both the publisher and the console manufacturer (Sony, Sega, Nintendo, Microsoft, etc...). The game would have to pass through the QA department of both sectors as well, or at least the manufacturing QA. This would result in work time for their employees, and would require the game to be priced accordingly.
Systems that are currently active will not support the free release of a title held under the jurisdiction of a Vivendi license.
Quote from: Dawn on January 02, 2006, 06:48:57 PM
Does anyone know what the system requirements are? I have a pretty old computer, and I'd like to know if I'll still be able to play??
The system requirements haven't really been published yet, but you can try running the Torque Demo (http://www.garagegames.com/products/1) - it's a demo of the engine TSL is using, so if your computer can't run that, it's a pretty safe bet it won't be able to run the game either :-\
The 8 year old grandaughter of a friend was recently given an old laptop. I was happy to install KQ VI and VII on it for her to enjoy. Now she'll have another great game to look forward to in the future. The King's Quest series is one of a kind!
That's so sweet, Andy! :) Be sure to install KQ IV once her typing speed goes up.
I second that, I loved KQ IV. ;D
I second that too. King's Quest IV was the first game I played from the King'e Quest saga; and it is still my favorite one too.
I am so ready to play the Silver Lining -- Shadows part 1 that it is really hard to wait. It seems like the exciting adventure games are now the ones that are free and fan-based like the Silver Lining and the King's Quest remakes by AGD.
The posts about KQIV should probably be in the adventure games section of the forum and let this thread remain dedicated to TSL. I'll leave these posts here for now, but if there are any more posts about KQIV I'll probably move them all into a thread in the Adventure section.
Just wanted to say a big "Well done chaps/chappesses" to you the KQ IX team (well...Silver Lining/Shadows team now!) for not giving up and keeping this entire program running...would be a galling waste for it to have been killed off now! :)
THOU HAST MAKETH ME WAIT FORTH SO LONG!
I Craveth adventure!
;D
A new journal entry on the latest progress would be most appreciated. <hint hint> ;)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Great news ;D ;D ;D
Welcome DaBest!!!!
I agree a 100% with Stan, who wrote:
"A new journal entry on the latest progress would be most appreciated. <hint hint> ;) "
What happened to the great initiative 'Art of the week' by the way? This hasn't been updated for a very long time. An occasional screenshot or model would defininately keep me quiet until the actual game is released!!! :P
Negotiations with VU have been given priority, because the launch of Shadows as well as the future of TSL depend on that. Obviously, this has been taking longer than we wished, but it's a must we should comply with this in order to commit to a real update in any form such as website- new art, media or the journal- new info, etc. Things are happening, we just need to be legally clear.
Sorry about any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.
Well, thanks for responding and clearing that up, Say. I hope negotiations go well with VU and you are given clearence to update your website.
Hi all just wanted to know how negotiations are going. I usually look on this website and find a lot of people writing and no one has been leaving any messages lately and so I was concerned for like a second! I hope everything is going well with you all and VU. I know how crazy things can be getting with all these negotionations, and I would want to remind everyone that even though we can't wait and are so EXCITED ABOUT THIS GAME!!! I can't wait either and so excited I think you all are doing great job on everything. I don't know whether or not people can add anything on here or not just wanted to say hi and wanted to know if the update is coming soon!
Quote from: Russ on January 17, 2006, 10:29:05 PM
Hi all just wanted to know how negotiations are going.
We can't actually tell you anything about the negotiations while they're still progressing. I know exactly how you feel, though. Before I joined the team, I once asked the exact same question before the deal with VU was announced. We simply ask for patience and support.
Hey! Congratualations on being part of the team! (You didn't join just to find out about negotiations did you? ;))
I think there's a 3 month trial period before they let you know everything. :P
When will we hear more news? I know your negotiations are continuing but it is frustrating for the fans of this project to have no clue except that Shadows may be released in 2006. Please give us more information.
(On an off topic note I think Mexican cola with cane sugar tastes better than U.S. cola with corn syrup)
Sorry, but we're not permitted to provide any detailed information regarding the negotiations. All we can say is that they're still ongoing.
Just got to wait....Just got to wait....Breathe in....Breathe out....
Man, waiting is boring... I guess it's better to wait for a while than to have the game never come out. :-\
Yeah. 1 Sheep, 2 Sheep, 3 Sheep, 4 Sheep, 5 Sheep.....
Great to hear things are still on track.
My best regards to the team (and a barrel of the king's finest vintage!)
We are eagerly awaiting the release of Shadows and its sequels.
ThankYou again for your outstanding efforts and dedication.
Quote
Man, waiting is boring... I guess it's better to wait for a while than to have the game never come out
Same here.
Although we cannot be told the negotiations' details, the news that Phoenix was allowed to go on with this game's production suggest that, currently, things are going well.
I hope these negotiations yeld good results for both parts.
Waiting can be boring. At times it leaves you snoring but still oh STILL! It's worth the wait. For when TSL comes out there will be many shouts (of glee!) And TSL is nothing to pout about.
Hi all, am new to the board, heard about this board from the sierra gk board and was happy to hear about a new KQ game being in the works :) Is it still on the go?
Yes it is! ;D
Though now it's no longer KQ IX but is instead called The Silver Lining.
Same game, different title. Currently the first part will be out sometime this year.
coool! Thankyou for answering so quickly :)
No problem.
Glad to see we have a new member!
Yay for the Silver Lining
Just can't wait to play the game. This is the time being winter and all!
Winter was the release date before the negotiations with Vivendi. I'm afraid you'll now have to wait a bit longer.
"Bit" means small right?!
Not necessarily :P
any certain date as to when it's going on the shelves? And is it going everywhere or in just certain areas?
The plan is to release it free for download on this site. If that changes, we'll be sure to let you know.
excellent :) thankyou :)
Great to hear that this is back on track. When I visited here for the first time in a few months out of curiousity (after hearing that it got shut down and all) it made my day to know that you guys are still able to work on this. It will be quite an amazing accomplishment when you are done and I'm super stoked for all of you. 8)
I wonder how powerful a computer you will need when TSL comes out.
If you download the Torque engine demo and it works on your computer you're fine.
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on January 24, 2006, 05:17:52 AM
If you download the Torque engine demo and it works on your computer you're fine.
What's that? Never heard of it... my computer is a 3500+ AMD athlon/ 64 processor with 512 MB, 250 GB Hard drive... with XP... am I going to have to get one of those emulator things to slow it down???
Quote from: scottish phantom on January 24, 2006, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on January 24, 2006, 05:17:52 AM
If you download the Torque engine demo and it works on your computer you're fine.
What's that? Never heard of it... my computer is a 3500+ AMD athlon/ 64 processor with 512 MB, 250 GB Hard drive... with XP... am I going to have to get one of those emulator things to slow it down???
Depends on your graphics card ;)
the game will take advantage of latest technology..
But from the powerhorse your PC sounds to be, you don't 8)
lol, got a computer fast enough to play the game I got myself for christmas... Fable-the lost chapters :P
Quote from: scottish phantom on January 24, 2006, 11:49:52 AM
lol, got a computer fast enough to play the game I got myself for christmas... Fable-the lost chapters :P
I doubt you will have any problems then 8)
Sorry I wasn't more specific with the torque engine thing. Oh well.
no worries, still have no ideas as to what that is :D :P
Torque Game Engine (ftp://demos.garagegames.com/tge/TorqueDemo-Installer-1-4.exe) is the engine that TSL is using. If you can run it without problems, there's a good chance the game will run fine on your computer as well.
EDIT: fixed link.
cool ;D
I wasn't able to provide the link which made it harder to explain. (Although it sounds more like a car-part than a game engine. :P)
strange the link doesn't work for me.
It says that the site does not exists
Sorry about that, I used the wrong tags. The link's now fixed.
Or you can go to the page that Petter just mentioned. :P
is there any info about the update u guys can give us yet? ;D
It's safe to assume that the game is getting closer to being done... what else do we need to know? When it's completed, they'll let us know. They have lives and jobs and priorities outside of this project and I respect that. I am thrilled with simply knowing that the game is going to be completed eventually. :D
Check out the extra screenshots in the GameSpy interview with César Bittar: http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3280.0 (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3280.0)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that VU wanted you to change the name to The Silver Lining. Doesn't that include the website? And if you were gonna change it up it's been a long time coming. I don't mind waiting I just don't want you guys to get in trouble again. And I love Says stuff to... ;)
I know I know... we're currently dealing with far more important things but don't worry that's coming.
Will we be notified through E-mail :) or SMS :P that the First Part of KQ9 is complete and ready for Download, or will you tell us the day its complete and ready for Download. ;D
;D Put a Timer above the Fourm Board to let us know how many days and hours for the Game to be released.
My geuss would be, the day that the KQ Compilation gets released, thats the day KQ9 will be realeased. :suffer:
SMS? lol, we don't have people's phone numbers. :P
Everyone subscribed to the Newsletter (http://www.postudios.com/archivedTSL/media/newsletter/) will be notified through e-mail, so if you aren't signed up already, do so now! ;D And of course, that news will be plastered all over the Internet. ;P
But keep in mind that once the game is complete, it'll still have to go through Vivendi. So, we won't be able to countdown to any exact release date until after they approve the game. ::)
Which they'll probably change it a lot and by the time VU ''approves'' it it wont be even remotely like King's Quest anymore.
Quote from: daventry on January 31, 2006, 01:26:01 PM
;D Put a Timer above the Fourm Board to let us know how many days and hours for the Game to be released.
I like this idea :)
They did that for the count-down to the announcement of the release date. Boy did that get lots of people hyped up!
But like...they don't know the release date. :P
Hey ya'll! I'm new to the boards, but I have been watching this project since last year. It crushed me when I heard kq9 had to be shut down as I am a long time kq fan. Then when I discovered we are back up it literally made my year!! I am eagerly awaiting The Silver Lining and the kq compilation!! My guess is a co-release of both projects.
-M
First off I would like to say congratulations on all your efforts, for this project, for KQ, for the fans, and for future fan made games. They’re greatly appreciated. ;D
I’ve been keeping an eye on this site for about a year now and have been very impressed with your work and was very disappointed with the C&D order and am proud to say I too contributed to the SaveKQIX petition. Though I’m not to sure how much it counted since you were already working things out with Vivendi one week after the C&D. It was still worth the effort and I would also like to thank the people organizing those petition and the fans that contributed. ;D
I know many fans have waited much longer then I but I’m happy to wait. I know you have a LOT on your plate (much more then you ever bargained for what with the lawsuit.) the legal terms you’re still working out, the new name and thus changing your intro I imagine, the new web site, finishing this chapter, and of course having Vivendi “review†it. ::)
Keep up the good work.
We’re all behind you. ;D
I know I"m probably SOL, but will there be a MAC version? Oh, God please tell me there will be a MAC version
SOL? ???
The game might be ported to Mac & Unix versions in the future, but our primary focus right now is on developing the Windows version.
SOL=Sorry, outta luck judging by how I learned it. My brother told me that the S can stand for other things though. ;P
The password login is showing the password instead of *******
Please fix and keep up the good work on TSL. :o
I just tried it, Steve, and didn't experience the problem you mentioned. Curious.
It was due to my dad installing an add-on for Mozilla Firefox. Sorry to cause you any trouble.
No problem at all. I think I'd rather be safe than sorry when it comes to something like this.
I really can't wait for Silver Lining to come out.For now i've started playing all the old ones to get myself ready.....on a side note how do you download those pictures you have next to your names....I'm new to this...as if you couldn't tell...
If you have a picture online somewhere that you want to be your avatar (the picture next to the name), go to your profile, click on "forum profile information" on the left menu, then click "I have my own pic" on the first part of the page. Then, copy and post the link to the picture and click "change profile" on the bottom of the page. If you have any more specific questions, feel free to send me a personal message (by clicking on my name, scrolling to the bottom, and click "send this member a personal message"). And welcome to the forum Miss Daventry. :)
Quote from: Miss daventry on February 03, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
I really can't wait for Silver Lining to come out.For now i've started playing all the old ones to get myself ready.....on a side note how do you download those pictures you have next to your names....I'm new to this...as if you couldn't tell...
You could also introduce yourself in the introduction thread (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=2737.0) in Haven.
It isn't a must but lots of greetings are given there to the newbies.
EDIT: Added link
This was why I was so skeptical that it will be finished in 2006 and why I think it will take even longer than this year for Shadows to be released.
Cool screenshots
http://www.adventuregamers.com/screenshot.php?id=3580
Any truth to these dates ---
Part 1 -- Shadows -- 2006
Part 2 -- The two that are one -- 2007
Part 3 -- Eternities -- 2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silver_Lining
As you may recall, during the anniversary chat we announced that we aimed to release Shadows in Winter 2005/6, and then hopefully Two That Are One a year later, and Eternities a year after that. Obviously our negotiations with Vivendi got in the way of maintaining our production schedule. At the moment, we can only say that we aim to release Shadows at some point in 2006. The final decision is no longer solely ours. You could speculate that the writer of the Wikipedia article is basing the 2007 and 2008 dates on our original, pre-C&D announcement. I honestly am not privy to any information on release dates beyond what has been publicly announced.
Is great in seeing that VU grant license to continue!
Is VU still prevent you releasing first one?
Yes, they might have been nice to you and all that. Make sure they don't get overboard.
Normally a lisence should mean go ahead with it.
Quote from: dew7 on February 11, 2006, 10:41:21 PM
This was why I was so skeptical that it will be finished in 2006 and why I think it will take even longer than this year for Shadows to be released.
Cool screenshots
http://www.adventuregamers.com/screenshot.php?id=3580
Thank you for posting link.
Why were you skeptical and why do you thing it might take longer for shadows to release?
I fail to see your reasons.
Everyone is entitled to asume whatever they believe it's most convenient, even if he would fully explain his own reasons you might still believe different as well. Everyone's got an opinion of their own.
I must admit that VU's situation has kept us behind schedule, but even so, whatever that has happened has been for the best. Now we're legal and we've got communication with VU. Regardless of the inconvenients and bad moments, I think things will look up better soon enough :).
As Tribe previously mentioned, it's not our doing alone anymore. It's great to be given legal permission to continue, yet as splat said we had to be careful through the negotiations (which are still somehow in the go, not finished) and obviously this is something that happen inside the team just among the directors of POS.
We're not legally entitled to comment details to the media or the fans, obvious reasons, we just gotta keep details and such private. But yes, there's a lot of in betweens we gotta take care in order to guarantee Shadows will see the day of light as well as doing it properly.
And yes, I wish 'giving a license' would be as easy as just them telling us to "go ahead!". Far from it, in real life. I hope that answered your question :)
I really hope Shadows is released in 2006 but I think it will take longer because of the dealings with VU. In addition, the folks working on this have full time jobs or school so I think it will take longer.
Quote from: dew7 on February 12, 2006, 06:26:13 PM
I really hope Shadows is released in 2006 but I think it will take longer because of the dealings with VU. In addition, the folks working on this have full time jobs or school so I think it will take longer.
Well POS said it would be out in 2006 AFTER the dealings with VU started...so it should come out this year.
Do you guys have any idea about when negotiations will wrap up, or is that also confidential? :P
Regardless of the negotiations we're still working on the game production, obviously it'd be best if we had time just to dedicate to production instead of spending it with lawyers and such. Also remember that the game being completed does not mean it will be launched right away, VU might need to evaluate it and all before it comes out.
I'm trying to keep you updated as much as I can, also understand that there are also some questions which we might not have an answer for just yet.
hi all!. This is my first post on the forums, however I have been following your progress for quite some time. i must say being a king's quest fan since i was probably 10, i am extremely impressed with all the screenshots, and the trailer i have seen.I was quite depressed when I found out the Vu decided to close down the project, and extremely happy to see the movement of fans which led to the fan license. I had been unfortunately having computer problems, and was unable to post my gratitude to you guys. Im very happy that you decided to give closure to a game that i'm sure many of us loved as children. so , i must bow down and worship you guys, as you have me extremely impressed. So with my final words of my first post, i thank you, and eagerly wait for the coming of The Silver Lining's first chapter.
Hi Japster, welcome to the forums. I think Shadows will probably come out at the end of this year. I can see the team has been working hard, they deserve praise for that. I hope the negotiations with VU goes smoothly. Thanks for the info, Say.
Welcome Jasper! and you're welcome RoseDragon :)
Any more hints or details about TSL's progress? Please or is it just another :suffer:
Since I was the first to see this... :suffer:
:o Cat that's so unlike you!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on February 14, 2006, 06:05:21 PM
:o Cat that's so unlike you!
Be thankful it wasn't GunHoMac who responded. I can see it now......
(http://content.ytmnd.com/content/f/9/f9a40d295f7d6f57fd56a854bcf3d158.gif)
Yeah. He has a knack for expressing his opinion in vivid detail.
Hey! GunHomac is cool. I like him anyways :D
Going back to TSL whenever I get the moment to actually say anything important I will, meanwhile feel free to ask whatever else that hasn't been explained already.
Say...could you please give me an update on the TSL progress situation. While you're at it...the meaning of life...you know...when you have time.
Of course!
We're currently working and we're very tired. Oh yeah, and the meaning of life is 42 <3
Hey you guys have probably answered this but im really short on time so i havn't read all 20 pages of this thread :)) ok well when do you guys plan of releasing this is it going to be a summer release or like fall or is it even going to be a winter release?
Welcome Marshall. :) I'll just quickly answer your question, and I'm sure one of the team members who are closer to the project will be able to give you more information. Right now, there is no official release date for Part 1. I know we all would hope it's soon, but as of yet, the team has not announced anything. :)
Dang!
I logged on to the site this morning and found that all the forums
were down.
I was hoping this ment that the VUG negotiations were over and
the site was being updated.
Guess it was just some glitch.
Yes, it was just a server malfunction. :P
Just to let everyone know in advance, there may be a few more site errors next week as we'll be switching web hosting providers. :)
Quote from: Yonkey on February 17, 2006, 03:23:16 PM
Yes, it was just a server malfunction. :P
Just to let everyone know in advance, there may be a few more site errors next week as we'll be switching web hosting providers. :)
Does that mean you'll be revamping the site next week? *is hopeful* ::)
Quote from: Yonkey on February 17, 2006, 03:23:16 PM
Yes, it was just a server malfunction. :P
Just to let everyone know in advance, there may be a few more site errors next week as we'll be switching web hosting providers. :)
I thought taht the website moved somewhere else. I haven't been on in a while.
QuoteWill we be notified through E-mail :) or SMS :P that the First Part of KQ9 is complete and ready for Download, or will you tell us the day its complete and ready for Download. ;D
;D Put a Timer above the Fourm Board to let us know how many days and hours for the Game to be released.
My geuss would be, the day that the KQ Compilation gets released, thats the day KQ9 will be realeased. :suffer:
WIth the stupid date on the compilation, that could mean TSL could
never come out.
I thought I posted something here, and now it's gone... Does it have anything to do with the forums being down? I posted about Cat and her "secret Plans" and I remember getting a response that I was too paranoid. But now all traces of that have vanished from existence itself. Can anyone please help me? :'(
No worries...because the following posts got a tad off-topic, the conversation was moved :) Official General Chat (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=2317.msg150970#msg150970)
Ok guys I have just a couple more questions (I hope this is the right thread)
Ok my first one is.
For TSL what form of artwork will you be using? Will you be using the cartoonish fantasy style that they used in KQ7 Or more of a realistic style that they used in kq 5 & 6?
And my other question was.
Which form of moving will you use again wiill you use the magic wand that they used in KQ7? Or the Hand cursor Talk cursor ect.
Thanks again for your time!
Hey again Marshall. To answer your questions:
1. We're using a more realistic style. You can see examples of the artwork on Deviant Art: here (http://thesilverlining.deviantart.com/).
2. For moving, the hand/talk cursor is being used.
Maybe another team member can elaborate more, if need be :)
Wow thats Cool! Did you guys make your own engine for gameplay, or did you buy one?
They're using the Torque Game Engine (http://www.garagegames.com/products/browse/tge/). ;)
Which Torgue Game Engine --- Indie or Commercial
Commercial supports:
Windows 95/98/SE/ME/2000/XP
Pentium III 500, 128 MB RAM
OpenGL or DirectX Compatible 3D Graphics Accelerator, DirectX compatible Soundcard
Indie supports:
Windows 98/SE/ME/2000/XP
Pentium III 500, 128 MB RAM
OpenGL or DirectX Compatible 3D Graphics Accelerator, DirectX compatible Soundcard
Also I noticied Indie is $100 and Commercial is $495.
The engine is actually the same for both licenses. But if you're asking whether or not the game will work on Win95, it won't. :P
Thanks for clearing that up. :D
Quote from: Yonkey on February 19, 2006, 11:02:09 PM
The engine is actually the same for both licenses. But if you're asking whether or not the game will work on Win95, it won't. :P
According to what I'm reading regarding pro version, seems supporting Window 95.
If pro version support Windows 95 then how can engine be actually same for both license? I'm sure windows 95 users would certainly like some clarifications here.
I've not known of ANY of this until I recently searched-for and read-about all the Quests and LSLs on Wikipedia... I (like most here) grew up on these games and I honestly have to say that you people are not only giving fans an awesome game, but something that will create lasting memories of pure happiness. Truly this is something that is being SELFLESSLY created for nothing but the enjoyment and love of the game/memories/fans. There are no words to express how taken I am with the absolute altruisticality (a word I created) of you guys! If all people were like you guys, we would be, as a world, peaceful... thank you guys for coming together and being so awesome. :sweetheart:
Hello everybody!
I remember King's Quest from my childhood..I´m born in 1986 so I was very young. But I remember I really did like it a lot. Read in a newspaper that this game will be offred for free? Is it true? I really don´t trust the papers u know..
Yes, this game will be released as freeware. :)
Welcome Jessica!
I just have a question, you mentioned this:
Quote from: Jessica on March 02, 2006, 04:44:05 AM
Read in a newspaper that this game will be offred for free? Is it true? I really don´t trust the papers u know..
I'm wondering which newspaper is this? and if so, could you scan it for me? :) Thanks!
Wow, you guys are everywhere! It's amazing! And welcome, Jessica! I hope you find the POS forums comfortable and nice! I know I do! Out of every forum I visit, this is by far the nicest!
Quote from: racx_00 on December 09, 2005, 10:09:49 AM
I'm glad to hear that it's back! I knew if we were persistant enough something might just happen !!!
Welcome Laura! ;Db Be sure to become a member. :P
Yeah, it's really great that you are doing this.
It's one thing to make a King's Quest game, and release it as freeware, but to make a 3D game, with a great soundtrack (from what we hear), and voice acting, AND release it as freeware...
You make us proud! ;B
i'm sooo excited for the silver lining! i always wondered ??? what happened to all the characters and this will answer my questions. i have played this series since i was 7 and was sad :( to see it die. thanks for giving it new life and a breath of fresh air :D
quick question to ask will I need to install anything on my computer in order to run this game when it is released as freeware? There was a post earlier that had said the person could either pay 200 or almost 800 dollars for software for some program in order to play this game is this true and where will I have to get this online?
Thanks
That post was referring to the licensing costs of the Torque engine that we're using to develop the game. You don't need any special software to play the game.
Well spring starts next week, when exactly in spring does the game come out?
An exact date has not been made public, as of yet.
or, to be more accurate: :suffer:
;P
Only Part1: Shadows will be released this year(it will be released in 3 parts). If you wish to be notified, once the release date is made public, be sure to sign up for the Newsletter(bottom of February section (http://www.tsl-game.com/)). ;)
Hi all!
I heard about KQIX only one week ago. It was a notice about this website in my Norwegian Donald Duck comic book! I was so happy when I read that there will be a KQIX, cause I've been waiting forever! Good Job, guys!! ;D
The game will be available to download from the page www.tsl-game.com right??
Love, Siv (Norway)
Could you scan your comic with the notice in it please. I'm sure everyone would want to see it. Thanks.
Yes, we would love to see notice in the comic that mentions us! :)
But it's in norwegian.. :) ::)
Siv
That's alright, we'd still like to see it. :)
Also, in order to upload a pic, you'll have to register an account (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?action=register) first.
Anyone know where to get a "learn norweigin in five hours guaranteed" software? (If only I had taken a language in seventh grade. I'm not taking one until tenth grade. Darn IEP! There are times when a language comes in handy! Like this!)
i need to know the game will realese????
Quote from: warvolden on March 18, 2006, 12:42:44 PM
i need to know the game will realese????
http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3583.0
I thought you would actually GIVE us a SPOILER. :P
XD Wishful thinking.
Random stranger: I wish I knew the release date of TSL.
Genie: I cannot perform the wish. There was a system error. I will now shutdown. You may resume your functions, except the Wish function. I will be under close surveilance by the FBI, so as to avoid any more malfunctions. Please rub the Lamp one more time to start the system up again. Thank you for using Windows Genie Edition. Good bye!
Random Stranger: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! DARN YOU, CRUEL WORLD! WHY? WHY? WHY DO YOU TORTURE ME?
Now that would be funny! I wish you guys would give us a few spoilers or so. All I have to do is try to intoxicate Cesar and then get all the info I can out of him. But the only question is how to explain to my boss that I can't work because I'll be trying to illegally get info out of someone, and I'm not legally able to even touch Alcoholic beverages. (Bagging things can be very annoying when you can't lay a finger on the Alcohol. It's like they think I'm going to pop open the wine and start enjoying myself. They wish.) But I should be on topic, not off!
*Puppy Dog face* please? Could we please have a spoiler? Is the Puppy dog face good enough? I need my spoilers once and a while. Please? I'll do anything for you! Please! You must help me! Please, Say? Please, Deloria? Please, Yonkey? I'm using my manners!
SPOILER ALERT!!! SPOILER ALERT!!!
TSL: Shadows will be released after negotiations with VUG have ended.
*ahem* err... I think it says something like that on the home page.
I wonder... *Calls up VUG and demands to talk with the head*
Head of VUG: I have no idea what TSL is. I'm sorry, but I do not know what you refer to. Please come back at a later date, when we have announced details on KQIX. I didn't just say that!
Dark-Daventry: Yes you did. And I think you do know what I'm talking about. I'll be back for you...
There you have it. He has no idea what TSL even is... Or does he...?
Well of course the Head doesn't know what you're talking about...
Mr. Shatner is just an actor!
*ahem*....er...uh...back on topic....
To TSL Team....
Do you think we might see some TSL logos (at least one)
so I can update my desktop?
Quote from: ciborium on March 19, 2006, 09:52:46 AM
Do you think we might see some TSL logos (at least one)
so I can update my desktop?
Yes, once we finish updating the site. :)
And could you pretty please with a cherry on top tell us when/if that will happen? Please? I've been a good online person, right? Please? Or I could just use that dreaded thing called Patience. I hate using it!
DD, just remember that a lot of the people working...well, most...are either in college or working full-time, so, especially with the site updating (when the fans can actually SEE progress), it gets done in any spare time the team has :) So, I guess the answer is, Patience needs to be used ;)
Okay. Fine. You win. Darn patience! I guess your right, Cat! (You always are!) I'll wait as long as you intend me to...
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 19, 2006, 06:00:12 PM
Okay. Fine. You win. Darn patience! I guess your right, Cat! (You always are!) I'll wait as long as you intend me to...
Yay! He says I'm always right! :D
But, yes, patience is hard. I agree completely!
Yay! You agree completely!
Ok, I'll scan it. But it might take a while because I dont have a scanner at home. :)
Siv
Thats okay.
We already wait for a while, so no worries! I think some good has come out of this project, (not that nothing has) and that is making people wait. Expanding people's tolerance of waiting. Their patience expanding! And it's all thanks to you guys! (Especially Cesar, as he's the guy behind the project, and therefore decides when it get's released...) I mean no offense to anyone here! (If any of you were offended, for example by my TSL comment of good things coming out of the game. The game in itself is a miracle!)
Actually Vivendi is in charge of it getting released.
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on March 21, 2006, 04:15:59 PM
Actually Vivendi is in charge of it getting released.
Vivendi is charge of when/or if (which, knowing them, that's a big if), it gets released. Sorry for the pessism, but I trust POS, but Vivendi...eh....
I have no reason to believe that TSL won't be released, though I suspect that Vivendi might want PO to make a few changes after reviewing it. Why would they grant a fan license if they're going to shut down the project permanently?
exactly.
So my info was a little wrong. It gets confusing... But still... I do believe the game will come out, and that VU will approve it, but I wouldn't know for sure... But either way, I'm excited!
Quote from: Moodyblues on March 21, 2006, 07:50:30 PM
I have no reason to believe that TSL won't be released, though I suspect that Vivendi might want PO to make a few changes after reviewing it. Why would they grant a fan license if they're going to shut down the project permanently?
I know you know as much as the rest of us, but what do you think they'll make POS change? Just speculation, anyway.
If (and that's a big "if") they change anything, it may just be a small detail. I don't see VU trying to drastically change the plot or anything like that. Of course, what do I know?
Hey, I LOVE King's Quest and i'm sooooooo excited about KQIX! I can't wait for it to come out! And i'm also so excited about the remake of KQIII that infamous adventures is making! I hope they both come out soon! Anyway, I have a couple of questions, a) Is there any chance that Dink will appear in KQIX? Or his infamous friend Sam? and b) I know it's a little off topic, but I was wondering if anyone knows when the Kings Quest Compilation is coming out? Amazon.com said next December but other websites said later this week! Thanks.
Theoretically, the compilations are coming out in December. Logically, they're never coming out. :P More info on the compilations is here. (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=2843.0)
Just to clarify... No one in the POS team knows anymore than anyone about these collections. Personally, I'm getting more confused with every delay. :D
I think VU just wants to torture us. And they're pretty good at it, if you ask me! And I'm going to try to stay on topic, despite how hard it is.
MUST........STAY.........ON.........TOPIC! *Struggles*
Lets face it folks, well never see this game being made. The game won't ever be released. Vivendi should have just continued its shutdown of the game a long time ago. I am just sad that I'm not waiting any longer for a game that isn't even done yet! I am just frustrated tonight all. Don't take it personally!
I'm more than sure it's going to be released. With all the publicity it's getting, it would be mere stupidity, for VU not to release it.
Quote from: Deloria on March 25, 2006, 04:20:42 AM
I'm more than sure it's going to be released. With all the publicity it's getting, it would be mere stupidity, for VU not to release it.
Diddo. My thoughts exactly! They wouldn't let this game die because of all the publicity it's gotten. Not to mention the fans it has!
Quote from: guest on March 25, 2006, 12:34:40 AM
Lets face it folks, well never see this game being made. The game won't ever be released. Vivendi should have just continued its shutdown of the game a long time ago. I am just sad that I'm not waiting any longer for a game that isn't even done yet! I am just frustrated tonight all. Don't take it personally!
Your pessimism won't effect me!!!!
*arrests AAAP* ::)
Anyways, I'm 100% confident that TSL WILL be released. They have a LOT of work done, and they have a solid plan to get the rest of the game finished.
Why was I arrested? Was I supposed to use affected?
Quote from: Rosella on March 25, 2006, 02:50:55 PM
*arrests AAAP* ::)
Anyways, I'm 100% confident that TSL WILL be released. They have a LOT of work done, and they have a solid plan to get the rest of the game finished.
What could possibly stop POS from finishing the project? Its survived the C&D situation with Vivendi. Besides maybe this: http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3562.0
Is there an update on the release date of the silver lining following the great news that the project is still alive?
Phil Walker
::)
Quote from: Phil Walker on March 26, 2006, 03:21:18 PM
Is there an update on the release date of the silver lining following the great news that the project is still alive?
Phil Walker
::)
We're aiming for this year but so far no definate date has been announced so keep your eyes peeled!
Guys,
have you played the KQ1 & 2 & 3 & 4 series?
Honeslty don't you find those are the best ones? The ones where you don't use the mouse at all...
I've always been a huge fan of those games, the keyboard ones, (PQ/SQ/KQ/Larry), but I haven't done any of the mouse-click ones.
Not the same feeling at all.
Anybody else agrees? or has the same feeling...
I think they should do it the old way again, I'm sure lot of people would appreciate.
anyway, just my 2 cents
Quote from: Lance on March 27, 2006, 05:23:03 AM
Honeslty don't you find those are the best ones? The ones where you don't use the mouse at all...
've always been a huge fan of those games, the keyboard ones, (PQ/SQ/KQ/Larry), but I haven't done any of the mouse-click ones.
They were good, but definitely not the best. They're more challenging than point & click, but if you don't word a phrase or item correctly, you're out of luck. There's also a lot of unneeded redundancy like "open door", "talk man", "look" when with point & click you can just click the Hand cursor on a door, Talk on a character, and Eye cursor on anything. In other words, point & click allows you to explore a lot more with much less effort than text-based.
If you can, you should really try out KQ5 or KQ6 and you'll see what I mean. :) Or, you can just wait for TSL to come out. ;)
yeah I've tried them as well.... the point&click larry & police quests too... but I don't get addicted to them at all... :-\
Probably a matter of habits.
I'd dream for another text stuff.
They should then combine and let you choose how you want to play in the game options (lol, that sounds a bit wierd, but I'd love that, seriously)
true about that redundancy... but trust me, it takes me the same time to type 'open door' than to click on my mouse (funny you mention that one, it's really THE sentence I type the fastest on my keyboard, thanks to those games lol.... it even turned into a competition between friends)
but to me, there was more interaction with the keyboard... and indeed you had to find the right way of saying things, I found that funny (well, sometimes really pissed as hell, when you spent 6 years on KQ3 and don't manage to finish it, it's quite frustrating!! ::)) ....
anyway, ...
errrmmm... how does the game react if you don't have a mouse at all? ;D ;D will it switch to 'keyboard mode' :P ;D
Quote from: lance on March 27, 2006, 05:49:54 AM
anyway, ...
errrmmm... how does the game react if you don't have a mouse at all? ;D ;D will it switch to 'keyboard mode' :P ;D
I don't even think Windows will let you boot up without a mouse connected. ;P And no, there is no keyboard mode. Parsing text is a lot more complicated than you'd think. 8)
LOL,
windows will boot, sure about that... although it won't without keyboard...
So that really proves us that the keyboard IS essential, whilst the mouse isn't!!! :idea:
:D
okay I stop, I'm just kidding....
I know parsing text is a pain in the @ss.... (not as much as defining the mouse-click areas & pixels on the screen...! ::) OKAY I said I stop ;D )
nice meeting you though.
I'll follow that new KQ for sure, haven't played those kind of games for years.. maybe it'll be worth playing... just need to find out when it'll be out... (haven't read the whole site yet tbh ;) so i dunno)
No definate date on TSL yet but the team hopes to have it ready for release by the end of the year. I am still thinking 2007 or later. We can be assured that it will be released when TSL is ready. ;D
Quote from: Lance on March 27, 2006, 05:23:03 AM
Guys,
have you played the KQ1 & 2 & 3 & 4 series?
Honeslty don't you find those are the best ones? The ones where you don't use the mouse at all...
I've always been a huge fan of those games, the keyboard ones, (PQ/SQ/KQ/Larry), but I haven't done any of the mouse-click ones.
Not the same feeling at all.
Anybody else agrees? or has the same feeling...
I think they should do it the old way again, I'm sure lot of people would appreciate.
anyway, just my 2 cents
I'm sure that most of us here have played at least one of those.
I agree and I would not be surprised if most of us have played KQ 1-4 more than once and have also played the remake of KQ1 by AGD and the new storyline done by AGD for KQ2.
WOW ..we're already talking about waiting ANOTHER year for this game? C'mon guys you've been stringing us along for years now... Are you sure you don't want us to pay for the game? Really, I don't mind and Im sure everyone else would be more than happy to reward your hard work.
Maybe you guys should just set a release date set sometime next century to be released in the national computer museum. All I can say is thank god for The Adventure Company.
Look. The team wanted to release early this year, unfortunately, that wasn't possible. What they need now is moral support, not someone complaining because the game isn't finished. The game is basically "secondary", first comes the team, who are currently still negotioating with VU.
Who said I'm complaining? I'll wait as long as you guys need. No matter how long it is, you won't once hear me complain, and if you do, you can delete my entire account online. And then I'd start up again... But anyway, my philosophy is that the longer the wait, the better the game! So if we had to wait until 2010, I'd know that we'd be getting a very well made game! So don't worry about me! And I know that you weren't talking about me in the first place. I'm merely stating a personal opinion!
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 28, 2006, 01:24:57 PM
Who said I'm complaining? I'll wait as long as you guys need. No matter how long it is, you won't once hear me complain, and if you do, you can delete my entire account online. And then I'd start up again... But anyway, my philosophy is that the longer the wait, the better the game! So if we had to wait until 2010, I'd know that we'd be getting a very well made game! So don't worry about me! And I know that you weren't talking about me in the first place. I'm merely stating a personal opinion!
She was referring to this disgruntled forumer:
Quote from: altair on March 28, 2006, 07:42:22 AM
WOW ..we're already talking about waiting ANOTHER year for this game? C'mon guys you've been stringing us along for years now... Are you sure you don't want us to pay for the game? Really, I don't mind and Im sure everyone else would be more than happy to reward your hard work.
Maybe you guys should just set a release date set sometime next century to be released in the national computer museum. All I can say is thank god for The Adventure Company.
I agree that the longer it takes to make the game, the better quality the game will be. I would wait twenty years for a good quality king's quest nine. ;D
Don't worry, it certainly won't take us that long. ;P
Yeah. Only 19 3/4 years. XD
I wonder if postings in this forum will go way down when TSL is released since lots of people will be working on the game. I also wonder if there will be many people begging for hints and if suffer smileys will be the response to these inquiries as well.
I can almost gurantee that of Yonkey! :suffer:
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on March 28, 2006, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 28, 2006, 01:24:57 PM
Who said I'm complaining? I'll wait as long as you guys need. No matter how long it is, you won't once hear me complain, and if you do, you can delete my entire account online. And then I'd start up again... But anyway, my philosophy is that the longer the wait, the better the game! So if we had to wait until 2010, I'd know that we'd be getting a very well made game! So don't worry about me! And I know that you weren't talking about me in the first place. I'm merely stating a personal opinion!
She was referring to this disgruntled forumer:
Quote from: altair on March 28, 2006, 07:42:22 AM
WOW ..we're already talking about waiting ANOTHER year for this game? C'mon guys you've been stringing us along for years now... Are you sure you don't want us to pay for the game? Really, I don't mind and Im sure everyone else would be more than happy to reward your hard work.
Maybe you guys should just set a release date set sometime next century to be released in the national computer museum. All I can say is thank god for The Adventure Company.
I know. I said in my post that she wasn't talking about me. I was just stating an opinion and to make a point!
Quote from: dink on March 28, 2006, 04:00:18 PM
I agree that the longer it takes to make the game, the better quality the game will be. I would wait twenty years for a good quality king's quest nine. ;D
True. I would wait eternities for it if I had to! (What is it with me and the word Eternity?)
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on March 28, 2006, 04:16:59 PM
Yeah. Only 19 3/4 years. XD
Precisely! ::)
Quote from: dew7 on March 28, 2006, 04:20:24 PM
I wonder if postings in this forum will go way down when TSL is released since lots of people will be working on the game. I also wonder if there will be many people begging for hints and if suffer smileys will be the response to these inquiries as well.
If anything, I see this place filling up with tons of people begging for spoilers
worse than you guys are right now! :P So yes, there'll be Suffers-a-plenty! :suffer:
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 28, 2006, 04:45:58 PM
True. I would wait eternities for it if I had to! (What is it with me and the word Eternity?)
Ironically, "Eternities" is also the name of Part 3. XD
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 28, 2006, 01:24:57 PM
But anyway, my philosophy is that the longer the wait, the better the game!
Well said. 8)
I REALLY don't want spoilers. I think it ruins the game. I had an experience with that before. (Although it was with a walkthrough.) I originally played KQVI (the short way) with a walkthrough. It was WAY not as satisfying as when I (on my own) beat KQVI the long way.
I agree, and that's actually the number one reason why we don't reveal spoilers about the game. 8)
I used a walkthrough for a lot of games, and I totally regret it now. I think the only real way to get plot points is to get them in their entirety, in the game. :P It's not like my ENTIRE life hangs on the game, so I will wait as long as POS needs, and not complain. I'm just really grateful that someone's actually making it! ;D
Walkthroughs!!!
What am I hearing here, SHAME SHAME SHAME people
:suffer: ;D
definitely, you can't enjoy such game if you use walkthroughs.
You're already lazy enough to point & click and not type, and still you'd use walkthroughs ??? ;D :P
I'm ready to wait 12.4 years if the keyboard mode comes in.... it can even be an extra for which you pay for when you go buy the game in the shop, i'd pay for it. (I may even be ready to parse the sentences & keywords for you ;) if you have no resources for that)
well, good luck to you, I think I'll now hybernate for the rest of the year and hopefully I'll wake up with a DVD Box of KQIX under my pillow.
cheers, Princes & Princesses :gossip:
Rosella and Lance, you're absolutely right. I played King's Quest 6 from start to finish using a walkthrough because I was really afraid of death scenes. I really regret it now because, even today, I remember all the solutions. :( Nowadays, I only use a walkthrough if, after a long time of trial and error, I can't find a logical solution to a puzzle.
I generally stay away from walkthroughs because it is way too easy to read an extra sentence or two ahead and ruin the whole game.
When I'm stuck, I try UHS because they just give you a little nudge in the right direction. So you still feel like you solved the puzzle.
Generally though, I only need to go there if puzzle is not very logical. ???
But we're getting a little bit WAY off topic here.
Is the site update going to coincide with the release of TSL?
Or will it be a little ahead, like a teaser?
Anyone notice that if you hit "spell check" it wants to change "walkthroughs" to "valkyries"?
I just finished making the walkthrough for TSL...
Click Start
Hold down Shift while clicking on Graham's hat
Everyone dies.
Even Shadrack?
Yay! I won! :P
Oh look there's a note at the bottom of that page.
Because of this POS in't going to let you play Parts 2 and 3. Each person gets to register for a unique username and password which will be entered at the begginning of Part 2 and 3. Also, the username and password are registered to your computer ID so you can't share them over the internet. :suffer: :suffer:
~Neil Rodrigues
lol, and which page is that from? ;P
Neil, whenever you post in this thread, I think you're going to tell us something new! I should probably stop hoping... :P
Magic Mirror upon the wall,
show me the future
of thine land
show me the land
of Suffering
in which I live
Shall'st it ever be over?
Shall'st the Suffering
and anguish ever end?
Shall the pain
that hides the truth
ever vanish with the wind?
Will the One ever reveal himself?
Will he ever stop the Suffering
he causes and show us
a way to freedom?
Will the light shine through?
Will the Yonkeyest
one of them all
ever see the light?
I hope you can all understand this... :P (I bet you can!)
In the feedback area Cesar said that Yonkey can post no spoilers without his permission so I guess it is hopeless to appeal to Yonkey and we must get Cesar to give us a spoiler.
Too bad asking him for spoilers is even more hopeless than trying to get them from me! :suffer: :P
I guess we will just have to wait. BTW, will the journal on TSL ever be updated.
Eventually yes, but in the mean time:
Quote from: dew7 on March 31, 2006, 12:53:49 PM
I guess we will just have to wait.
NO!!!!!!!!!! That is what you get! :suffer:
Where can I find the making of TSL video...??
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on April 02, 2006, 09:57:47 AM
Where can I find the making of TSL video...??
Clicky (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3509.msg151531#msg151531) :P
The making of video is now on the adventure Europe main page. Its the first story too so as soon as the page loads up you cant miss it :). Great video too by the way everyone. I have been following this project for quite some time now and am eagerly looking forward to it.
Soooo does this mean that the game is almost done???? ;D
most things are closer to being done than yesterday if they are worked on, so thats a plus i suppose ;D
So that means they are working on the game, and not just negotiating.
That's the most news we've gotten since they started this thread! :suffer:
Actually, we've been working on the game ever since Vivendi said we could continue; which was more or less when this thread started. :P
lets just hope I live long for the game then :suffer:
Quote from: Yonkey on April 03, 2006, 06:16:29 PM
Actually, we've been working on the game ever since Vivendi said we could continue; which was more or less when this thread started. :P
That great the production is still in progress!
Good luck with it.
I've reading or seeing lots of post on TSL!
What is it exactly?
Perhaps by including link to that website might clarify a bit.
ok this is not fair, we've been waiting a while, we need a release date, the residents are getting restless, give us a release date, an approximation, another trailer, a nice In game Video, something, you need to keep us teased and wanting more, please just give us something, i need life support from waiting.
Assuming you haven't seen it already... Computer Gaming World (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3509.0).
and getting a release date won't cause it to be released any sooner(or have you waiting any less), so just calm down(and keep in mind you are getting "something for nothing" ;) ). :P
We at Phoenix Online Studios most certainly sympathize with our fan community, especially after the heartening show of support we received when the future of the project was uncertain. However, we must weigh the community's desire for futher information against our objective of releasing the first part of the game in a timely manner and up to a very high standard of quality. Rest assured that there will be updates coming, but we feel that we owe it to you to not divert valuable resources away from the production of the game in order to expedite these updates. After all, the game is surely what you really want, and the updates are merely a pleasant distraction. Trust me, we all want to play this game as badly as you do.
Yours sincerely,
Michael A. Bright
PR & Web Assistant
Phoenix Online Studios
"The Silver Lining" Development Team
www.tsl-game.com
michael.bright@postudios.com
I think the only solution is to get focused on other pursuits and interests. You can check back sometimes at this website but do not get your hopes up that it will be released soon. The team is working hard and they deserve our encouragement and respect. Basically, it will be done when it is ready and not before. ;)
We were raised on Kings Quest... its good to see it around back. Good ole Graham and his adventures. Can't Wait to play again. We are super excited over here!
Oh DRAT, if things got any better i could die a happy man.
Yay!
Well this is my thoughts on the release date. Before production was stopped the aim was the winter season 2005 (Which i would assume ran thru march). So id say if production hadnt been stopped the game would have just been released, for topic sake we'll say March 30th would have been the release date. So add two months, and probably another month for VU to approve stuff and then adjustments. So my thoughts are we will see TSL sometime in July. If its a lot sooner than that and im dead wrong, it will be one of the few times im exstatic about being wrong.
It's so cool that this project isn't dead ;D
Hey I am happy as anyone else that king's quest is still alive and well. It was my first computer game way back in the days of KQIII (back when color screens hadn't really been invented yet, well not in my household anyway, ahhh the days of black and green....) Well all I have to say is that KQ rocks and is the best series bar none for creativity and replayability (except on XP which hates all old computer games, dang you microsoft!!!). But I have managed to be able to get most of the game to work on dosbox, except vii. I don't get it. Well anyway, the point of this rant is that I love this sight and will be on it daily, awaiting for the grand day of the release. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Best
Ryan
Are you aware of the freeware program DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net), which emulates DOS in Windows XP?
If you download DOSBox, I'd also recommend you download D-Fend (http://members.home.nl/mabus/), a front-end program that makes DOSBox much easier to use.
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on April 10, 2006, 08:07:37 PM
Are you aware of the freeware program DOSBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net), which emulates DOS in Windows XP?
If you download DOSBox, I'd also recommend you download D-Fend (http://members.home.nl/mabus/), a front-end program that makes DOSBox much easier to use.
Or you can do what I have done which is dual-boot my PC with Windows Me and Windows XP.
Of course patiences will provide KQIX and the classics by VUG for Windows XP
Link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AYFPKG/qid=1144810740/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4811952-1369553?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=468642)
EDITED BY TRIBEHASSPOKEN - Forum stretching
Quote from: sdogg1m on April 11, 2006, 07:59:45 PM
Or you can do what I have done which is dual-boot my PC with Windows Me and Windows XP.
I did the same thing, though I really only use Me for Sierra adventures where I prefer the Windows version to the DOS version (ie KQVI) or for Windows 95/98 games I can't get to work in XP (ie the "You Don't Know JACK" series)
Quote from: sdogg1m on April 11, 2006, 07:59:45 PM
Of course patiences will provide KQIX and the classics by VUG for Windows XP
If you're not already aware of it, you might like this thread (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=2843.0) discussing the new compilations.
Tribe,
Thanks for editing and making my previous link smaller and for the link to discuss the VUG's compilation release.
I recently read the Gamespy interview concerning The Silver Lining and am excited to play the game as it's quality has been repeatedly boasted about.
I also love the writers and developers for including the Land of the Green Isles as a focus of the game. Most would agree that KQVI is the appex of the series and the strengths of the game should be revisited.
Also, have you checked out some of the gamefaqs.com reviews of the previous King Quest's titles? I know it is late in development but many of the reviews contain insight on the weaknesses of previous King's Quest games? Just thought I would make a suggestion.
Quote from: tait2001 on April 10, 2006, 07:38:10 PM
Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Best
Ryan
sure, they're actually looking for people willing to parse the texts for the keyboard mode of KQIX.
;D
Quote from: Amrstrong on April 12, 2006, 06:57:27 AM
sure, they're actually looking for people willing to parse the texts for the keyboard mode of KQIX.
;D
No we're not. :P
But, that reminds me. If you'd really like to help out, have a look at the available positions (http://www.tsl-game.com/join/positions/) and apply for what you feel most qualified for. :)
Quote from: Yonkey on April 12, 2006, 07:03:02 AM
Quote from: Amrstrong on April 12, 2006, 06:57:27 AM
sure, they're actually looking for people willing to parse the texts for the keyboard mode of KQIX.
;D
No we're not. :P
But, that reminds me. If you'd really like to help out, have a look at the available positions (http://www.tsl-game.com/join/positions/) and apply for what you feel most qualified for. :)
How long does it normally take to fill a position? I ask because they seem to be the same positions I viewed six months prior.
Perhaps no one's seriously applied.
It depends, because sometimes we're in desperate need of certain positions, and other times we aren't. When you apply, your application is kept on file until needed.
Yonkey,
Would it be acceptable for me to post the positions link on other websites? There are other KQ fans out there who have probably never heard of this site.
Is there an age requirement for the posistions? (I checked them out, and there a few I might like/be good at, but need to know an age limit on them) It's unlikely I'd get chosen for anything though, as the only HTML I know is scarce. (I am improving upon that, though!)
Quote from: sdogg1m on April 12, 2006, 10:50:11 AM
Yonkey,
Would it be acceptable for me to post the positions link on other websites? There are other KQ fans out there who have probably never heard of this site.
Thanks, but we actually have PR Reps who do that for us. :P Please PM me the url(s) and I'll let you know if we have them covered or not.
Quote from: dark-daventry on April 12, 2006, 01:27:33 PM
Is there an age requirement for the posistions? (I checked them out, and there a few I might like/be good at, but need to know an age limit on them) It's unlikely I'd get chosen for anything though, as the only HTML I know is scarce. (I am improving upon that, though!)
We don't care how old you are, as long as you're talented and qualified for the position. :)
Hi all,
Thanks for your help involving the DOSBOX suggestion to my prior posts. I have tried that in the past and it still won't let me get some of the games working properly (namely 5 involving the voice and 7 entirely.) I think this has to do with the fact that I am using the older compilation of KQ games (robert williams anthology) and bits and pieces of some of the games are separate disks. I have played around with this and can get most of them to work properly, just not the two mentioned. Of course this may have to do with my lack of serious compter skills (at least I could get 5 out 7 working, which makes me happy anyway).
But this lead me into my next topic about offering help. Unfortunately I do not have the best programming skills or art skills. So is there anything else I can do to help. I am unfamiliar with "parsing text", but if it take minor programming knowledge, I would love to help!
Quest on daventry citizens..... (and kolyma, the green isles, etc......)
I have the Roberta Williams Anthology also. When I can find the time, I'll look into it and see if I can give you some instructions to get the games working.
Hey Tribe,
I would love to be able to play V and VII again. VI was always my favorite, but these two take a close second of the modern era. Hey but we can't forget about the thrill of turning Mannan into a cat for III (I love that game).
Quest on Daventry citizens....
Quote from: Yonkey on April 12, 2006, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: sdogg1m on April 12, 2006, 10:50:11 AM
Yonkey,
Would it be acceptable for me to post the positions link on other websites? There are other KQ fans out there who have probably never heard of this site.
Thanks, but we actually have PR Reps who do that for us. :P Please PM me the url(s) and I'll let you know if we have them covered or not.
Quote from: dark-daventry on April 12, 2006, 01:27:33 PM
Is there an age requirement for the posistions? (I checked them out, and there a few I might like/be good at, but need to know an age limit on them) It's unlikely I'd get chosen for anything though, as the only HTML I know is scarce. (I am improving upon that, though!)
We don't care how old you are, as long as you're talented and qualified for the position. :)
Thanks!
Hey, why is the link to download the trailer gone? Believe it or not I have not seen the trailer yet. I would like to see it.
The link's been gone for 8 months. :P Anyway, you can download the trailer here (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3509.msg151526#msg151526).
You know I was wondering the same exact thing. Now I can watch it.
Adventure on Daventry citizens......
Not to promote gametap but while you are waiting for games to load you see previews and they are adding Kings Quest 1-5 to their game vault. So you can play these games without worrying about dosbox or stuff like that. They also already have Quest for Glory 1-3, and Space quest 1,2,3,5. Sorry i know off topic but was trying to help the person with dosbox problems. Maybe TSL can but put on gametap.
Greetings all, long time no see. :)
So whats the Progress on the Game, will it come out June or Xmas. ::)
It'll come out whenever it's finished. :suffer:
hey sorry to be an ass? but is there any other word on when the game will be done other than 'when it's finished'? like what percentage are you to having it completed (the 1st part I mean)? 10%, 50% 99%?
We plan on releasing the first part sometime this year. As for a percentage... keep watching the site for the next few weeks. 8)
*gasp* Really? :D
Update? UPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE! :P
EDIT (By Yonkey): Spam removed. ;P
can't wait ....need input....need graham...need valenice....help...
Quote from: herbmaster on April 19, 2006, 01:55:21 AM
hey sorry to be an ass? but is there any other word on when the game will be done other than 'when it's finished'? like what percentage are you to having it completed (the 1st part I mean)? 10%, 50% 99%?
The script is 100% done, other than that, your guess is as good as ours. :P
Quote from: Yonkey on April 19, 2006, 05:16:34 AM
We plan on releasing the first part sometime this year. As for a percentage... keep watching the site for the next few weeks. 8)
Quote from: Deloria on April 19, 2006, 08:28:02 AM
Update? UPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE! :P
I'll bet that's when they revamp the site and change all references from KQIX to TSL.
I listen to the team because I know that if they stick to what they say, or at least have the intention of doing what they say, then I'm good. If that doesn't apply, then they know that my immaginary friend Mordack can all turn them into frog prince's, and for te girls, they will be turned into an ugly swan, only to be reversed when they are kissed by a frog prince descended from Merlin, which is highly improbable!
Of course, Neil is the only one who is immune to the spell, because of hisa constant suffer rate, which, as every good magician knows, is the only way to be immune to every spell I could throw at him! So he is/will be immune as long as he keeps up with suffer. And therefore, is the only member of team who can lie about everything and give false hopes. *Caugh* Cesar too *caugh*
But as we all know, Neil is too nice a person to do that! Otherwise, why would he be on the team? (He bribed his way in, actually, didn't he?) Me and my weird fantasies! ::)
:o an update? really really?!?! Splee! I can't wait! :smitten:
If I remember Say saying, it will happen in May. She didn't exactly say directly, but she did mention that May would be an exciting month, because of some "surprises". I wonder what they are... I just can't put my finger on it!
POS's birthday's in May, it might have something to do with that.
But if I remember right, she said that this year they'd be celebrating the birth of something else. I don't know whether it was POS's b-day, whether it was the birth of TSL or not. I'm not exactly sure. Maybe you're right...
Nah, TSL's birthday is November 29, so if it's a birthday, it would probably be of POS, or of the project in general.
Yeah, could be the birth of the POS site that is still under construction. :D
What if it's the birth of.....CHAPTER 1: SHADOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, I doubt it. But it would be nice...
Maybe the old Newspaper we had will return? ;-D
Nope. The four winds aren't blowing back.
At least they won't be while the team has other things to work on. ;)
Yeah, Four Winds was our newsletter-fan fiction before. It got replaced by a real newsletter which provided monthly info and updates, due to such a messy year only few were truly produced, we currently work with announcements but the newsletter (the real one not the fan fic one) shall be back ;)
Meanwhile... feel free to keep on guessing what I've said within posts :P
I doubt it. I still think that the update is TSL related in every aspect, and includes the big update. Besides, Yonkey said to wait a couple of weeks for a big announcement! That signals to me that it's a big update!
Perhaps a King's Quest theme for Windows? :D
Or maybe a choice of forum themes like tie-dye, and whatnot. ;) I do like the blue, but who knows. ;)
That'd be cool!
Hurry up and come... May...6 more days and counting...
Is that when Part 1 will be released of TSL
i am sure if it was, the fans would already know about it.
I don't think so.
I’m pretty certain that it won’t be the release of Shadows. (Baby steps folks. POS is in some very uncharted territory.) I suspect it will be either the unveiling of the new web site or an announcement of POS and “V†finalized legal agreements. Whatever it is it will be a welcome update. ;D
Stay the course POS. We’re behind you all the way. ;D
Just got my June PC Gamer and in it is an article about TSL. Anyone else seen it yet? Just thought I would let everyone know.
We're in PC Gamer this month? Cool! I might have to find the magazine! :D
Could you please scan it?
June? :o
But, it's April right now! XD
Quote from: Ryno on April 25, 2006, 09:18:45 AM
Just got my June PC Gamer and in it is an article about TSL. Anyone else seen it yet? Just thought I would let everyone know.
Could you please scan it and send it to me? I wonder why Tim wouldn't let me know. Thanks in advance! :)
But then again, say, were you ever told about the Edge article had you not heard it from me? Or maybe you had heard it from someone...
It's obvious I know about most of the press releases because most of them contact ME first. Being the PR director I authorize and provide all the press kits, the interviews and all.
The problem is that, they get so excited to reach me, once they do they seem to "forget" to let me know when the article/interview comes out! :) Either way, it's always with a few months in advanced, I remember we participated in the interview back in February? or something, I thought it had come out already, I'm just glad it finally did :) !!
Sure I can scan it for you Say! It might take until tommorrow though. I will send it as soon as I can.
Here is the PC Gamer article.
Thank you so much Ryno!
You're in my good book now ;)
I tried to see if I could find a copy of the magazine today, but the store still only had the April issue, so I'm guessing it will be a while before I can get it.
For those of you wanting to read the article, but haven't been able to buy a copy of the magazine yet (or maybe they simply don't sell it where you live), I just finished transcribing it... :)
It seems as though the world only took notice of the fan-made King's Quest IX game when Vivendi's lawyers took steps to destroy it. Disappointed by the bum final note of 1998's King's Quest VII--the poor sales of which got the series canned--a group of fans formed Phoenix Online Studios with the aim of creating their own, more uplifting end to the story. After several years they had enough material for a trailer--which is when VU's lawyers stepped in.
"When we started, we were really just looking to create a game for a community starving for the old Sierra days." Project Director Cesar Bittar told us. "Especially the fans of King's Quest. We wanted to bring closure to the series we grew up with."
"We were working for a couple of years without explicit permission [to use the name, setting, and characters]," adds Saydmell Salazar, who handles the group's PR. "Perhaps things got real once [VU] could see it was more than just screenshots, or maybe it ]took that long until] they actually heard about us. The fans gathered and decided to create a buzz about the whole deal, contacting everything from portals to blogs and even radio stations. It's been quite a ride for all of us and we're lucky for all the support."
In the end, Vivendi relented with one demand: the name had to change. And so "King's Quest" was dropped and the name changed to Every Cloak has a Silver Lining--but the KQ characters and story line remain.
What was so wrong with the official final game in the series, King's Quest VIII: Mask of Eternity [PCG score: 66%] that fans felt compelled to create a new final chapter?
"I think it was heavily decided by Sierra's administration rather than [creator] Roberta Williams herself," says Bittar. "The magic was completely gone and we were thrown into a ghastly world that showed no trace of the universe we were accustomed to." He cites a weak plot, lack of the series' trademark humor, and excessive violence as indicators that something was amiss.
Now that they've gotten the green light, what do Bittar and his team plan to do about it?
"Silver Lining starts with a huge celebration gone terribly wrong. It falls to King Graham to investigate... Soon, he realizes the unfortunate events are not just casual evil-doing--they have a specific purpose. [It all ties in] with a prophecy [about] the wars of two societies, and every single event in the previous King's Quest games is somehow connected to it."
"We originally had nine chapters." says Salazar. "Now we have three parts with three chapters each. This makes it a lot easier to handle production wise, and makes for a friendlier release."
About 80 percent complete, Silver Lining currently lives at www.tsl-game.com.
-- Steve Williams
Wewt, a percentage! :D
Actually, from what I've heard, a percentage was not given to PC Gamer. So I'm not sure where he came up with that...
You are most welcome Say. Sorry that it wasn't very clear. My scanner has seen better days. :(
Quote from: ShinyKnight on April 25, 2006, 11:45:12 PM"Silver Lining starts with a huge celebration gone terribly wrong.
Celebration? Would that be something like Connor's knighthood (although that couldn't be
too big of a celebration), or something more like a wedding? (maybe Rosella finally gets hitched - maybe to Edgar?)
Quote from: ShinyKnight on April 25, 2006, 11:45:12 PMIt all ties in with a prophecy about the wars of two societies,
So how much war are we talking about here? Is it going to be fairly noticable, or merely behind the scenes?
Quote from: ShinyKnight on April 25, 2006, 11:45:12 PMand every single event in the previous King's Quest games is somehow connected to it."
Will we see (even if it's only in the Underworld or something) all the old villians come back (including Mannanan in his proper form)?
Quote from: ShinyKnight on April 25, 2006, 11:45:12 PMAbout 80 percent complete, Silver Lining currently lives at www.tsl-game.com.
Finally, a percentage! :D Keep up the good work! ;)
Alexander and Rosella turn 21 (see Making of...)
We'll definitely see Malicia and Lolotte (the inventory)
YAY! Now all we need is someone to go around and find all the spoilers and stuff that have been out, and then put them all together in an adobe document or something! It would then have a link to it on the site! And when new info or screenshots come out, it would be updated! That's all we need! But how do we get it...? Any volunteers? :P
I'm excited about the game even more! I just need some new info... Well, I'll have to wait until May!
80 percent... Sheesh, they just make this stuff up as they go. ::)
In my book that's not where we are right now, but then again you should count it from the idea stage to this, not just the time of full production.
There is something everyone should know from the press release found in April PC Gamer UK and in June PC Gamer USA.
Tim Edwards was my contact from PC Gamer UK, apparently due to different reasons he couldn't write the article himself, so he provided all information to Steve Williams, a freelance writer from USA, to create it for him.
Cesar Bittar and I were interviewed by Mr Edwards back in February 2006, even though we were discussing the idea of an article back in December 2005. Long story short, there is one detail which is not accurate from that article/interview, the "percentage complete", whatever that was supposed to mean. Neither Mr Bittar nor myself provided such information to PC Gamer UK/USA. Neither Mr Williams nor Mr Edwards ran the final draft of the article by us either.
I thought it was my responsibility to clear this up since Phoenix Online Studios didn't provide that figure, so obviously it's not official. We are not providing any official information regarding percentages just yet.
I hope it's clear now.
Quote from: Elessar on April 26, 2006, 09:09:54 AM
Celebration? Would that be something like Connor's knighthood (although that couldn't be too big of a celebration), or something more like a wedding? (maybe Rosella finally gets hitched - maybe to Edgar?)
I think the celebration refers to Alexander and Rosella's turning twenty-one years old.
You'll see what happens... :suffer: Of course, I have yet to find out as well!
Quote from: dark-daventry on April 27, 2006, 12:20:52 PM
You'll see what happens... :suffer: Of course, I have yet to find out as well!
You can trust me. You can even contact me on MSN, you can also tell me all the spoilers you know that I don't know :P
It's Rosella's and Alexander's birthday. You can see in the Making Of video that there is a banner for it on the Isle of the Crown.
i am sorry that the percentage is not accurate. i am looking forward to the game. but i know i will remain patient.
It might be higher...:P (although, I wouldn't know :P)
Keep in mind that interview was done quite a while ago. ;) If there were a percentage then, it would have increased a bit by now.
82.1111111 I say! :D
Quote from: Oldbushie on April 28, 2006, 07:59:24 AM
Keep in mind that interview was done quite a while ago. ;) If there were a percentage then, it would have increased a bit by now.
82.1111111 I say! :D
XD
I say it's about 75% complete. But that's near enough to beta-testing status fort me :P
lol, come on guys...no speculating! It'll be done when it's done :suffer:
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on April 28, 2006, 11:10:14 AM
lol, come on guys...no speculating! It'll be done when it's done :suffer:
But if we cannot speculate, what will we do to keep entertained while we wait?
You can participate in the Rosella Contest (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3762.0)! XD
Some people just like advertising that :P
It's May! When is that thing going to happen? :D
lets hope its not going to be delayed :suffer:
XD It better not be! The update will probably happen in the next few weeks, hopefully!
Well, considering that May is four weeks long, I'd say you have a good chance of being correct. :suffer:
Good! I better be right!
i heard there is no game
and it's all a bunch of lies!
I heard that too. It also turns out all the music, videos, and screenshots are fake as well. ;)
To put it simply, yes there is a game. If you have any questions about it, just ask. :P
Ok its cinco de mayo - where is the game (im pretty sure the two correlate)
sadly we can't play it yet (probably they programed one of the villens so real that the villen stole tha game and now is trying to complete the game :suffer:
Or it's just in the safe in the castle of daventry near king graham ;D
Quote from: Guesting on May 04, 2006, 10:12:09 PM
Ok its cinco de mayo - where is the game (im pretty sure the two correlate)
I'm afraid I have no idea why you would think that Cinco de Mayo would have anything to do with any announcement about the game's progress or release. Perhaps you thought this because you saw Cinco de Mayo listed under the upcoming events list on the site. However, all major cultural events are listed there as they approach, so I'm afraid you'll have to be a little more patient.
Quote from: conspiracist on May 04, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
i heard there is no game
and it's all a bunch of lies!
Well Apparently Vivendi would send a letter of cease and decist out to figments of our imaginations and also we imagined all articles in the number of "fictitious" magazines such as the seldom seen "Computer Gaming World" (I heard that bigfoot is a subscriber too!!).
Honestly, I would think the "guest" conspiracist would have more respect for his/her hosts......
Quest on Daventry citizens...........
Quote from: tait2001 on May 05, 2006, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: conspiracist on May 04, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
i heard there is no game
and it's all a bunch of lies!
Well Apparently Vivendi is sending a letter out to figments of our imaginations and also we imagined all articles in the number of "fictitious" such as the seldom seen "Computer Gaming World" (I heard that bigfoot is a subscriber too!!).
Honestly, I would think the "guest" conspiracist would have more respect for his/her hosts......
Quest on Daventry citizens...........
XD
It is. This is all a figmentof MY imagination, you're all figments of MY imagination and I'm currently conversing and holding debates with myself and more figments of my imagination! :D :P
Of course. This site doesn't exist. It is a program that updates itself regularly, with replies from my computer's AI.
It's not like any REAL people would be coming on the site... :P
woo! i always wanted to be a figment!
Ah, Cinco de Mayo, the only school day where running around screaming and throwing paper balls at foreign language classes is mandatory. :P
That HAS to mean TSL is coming out today! :P
Quote from: Vertius on May 05, 2006, 11:48:22 AM
Of course. This site doesn't exist. It is a program that updates itself regularly, with replies from my computer's AI.
It's not like any REAL people would be coming on the site... :P
Exactly. In fact, Sierra doesn't even exist. It's just a figment of our imaginations, just like the Making of video. That's all computer generation. I'm just a computer sitting in the basement along with a bag of cheetoh-puffs and a Mountain Dew.
Quote from: conspiracist on May 04, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
i heard there is no game
and it's all a bunch of lies!
(http://www.geocities.com/tribe1983/spaceyluthor.jpg)
Hahaha, now that was amusing :P
We do not exist, Neil and Cesar are just my imaginary friends and I'm not real :P
THIS IS ALL A PRODUCT OF YOUR IMAGINATION! :o
I must love Tribe's reply though <3 lol
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 05, 2006, 06:32:11 PM
Quote from: conspiracist on May 04, 2006, 07:46:25 PM
i heard there is no game
and it's all a bunch of lies!
(http://www.geocities.com/tribe1983/spaceyluthor.jpg)
XD XD XD
Quote from: Say on May 05, 2006, 07:11:34 PM
Hahaha, now that was amusing :P
We do not exist, Neil and Cesar are just my imaginary friends and I'm not real :P
THIS IS ALL A PRODUCT OF YOUR IMAGINATION! :o
I must love Tribe's reply though <3 lol
Diddo!
XD
Ya-know, I heard that a guy by the name of Death works this site. I heard that he takes on the rolls of all staff members, and what not. And of course, Say doesn't
really exist! She's a figment of ficticious fiction in it's abusrdly ficticious ways! XD
And all the moderators are really Elvis! :D
Quote from: Oldbushie on May 05, 2006, 08:55:56 PM
And all the moderators are really Elvis! :D
Please don't say that. My little sister is the biggest Elvis fan you could possibly imagine. I do like his voice, but I'm so sick of seeing his posters, CDs, DVDs everywhere I look.
Awww...
All the mods are really the Beverly Hillbillies then?
*loves that movie*
Nah, these websites are phony and they sell only fake games that do not really exist. ::) :suffer:
http://www.vugames.com/
http://www.sierra.com/
Quote from: Oldbushie on May 05, 2006, 09:31:53 PM
Awww...
All the mods are really the Beverly Hillbillies then?
*loves that movie*
This is the story 'bout a man named Graham
Roberta made a bunch of games in which you got to play 'im
In the game one day he was adventuring with leisure
And what do you know, he found the missing treasure
(Magic, that is. Special mirror, ultra shield)
Well the next thing you know he's the king of all the land
And his knights said "Sire, with the crown you look just grand"
"In the castle is the place you ought to be"
So he loaded up his cart and moved to Daventry
(Castle that is. Drawbridges, 'gator moats)
Yay! :D
And of course he has to look for a wife so he can have some kids of his own. ;) And figure out what he's doing to do with grandma.
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 05, 2006, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: Oldbushie on May 05, 2006, 09:31:53 PM
Awww...
All the mods are really the Beverly Hillbillies then?
*loves that movie*
This is the story 'bout a man named Graham
Roberta made a bunch of games in which you got to play 'im
In the game one day he was adventuring with leisure
And what do you know, he found the missing treasure
(Magic, that is. Special mirror, ultra shield)
Well the next thing you know he's the king of all the land
And his knights said "Sire, with the crown you look just grand"
"In the castle is the place you ought to be"
So he loaded up his cart and moved to Daventry
(Castle that is. Drawbridges, 'gator moats)
That was good! I liked it!
For 15 years I ran the Kings Quest computer tournament in Waverly, NY. It was one of the high points of my teaching career. Even today, students who have graduated, call me with fond memories of our summer experience. I thought Kings Quest was lost forever- not I have a reason to restart the tournament. Thank you so very much. Who says you can't relieve the past!!
Ronald Hoodak
Wow, there's such a thing as King's Quest tournaments?? :D
Feel free to join, you'd make an awesome addition to the forums! ;-D
Welcome! :D
Please, do join! Those KQ tournaments sound amazing, I wish we'd had something like them.
Now, back on topic of the Silver Lining . . .
Will anyone die in the Silver Lining?
You honestly expect a reply without any suffers? :P
no...
They all died in King's Quest IX
:suffer:
By the way.... Anyone knows where can I get a copy of PC Powerplay in the US? It's an australian magazine and I'm not sure if I've actually seen them selling it around? Anyone, any ideas? There's a four page article of the Silver Lining in it! :)
Really? I'd love to read it! Try and find it fast!
Quote from: César_Bittar on May 07, 2006, 03:09:00 AM
By the way.... Anyone knows where can I get a copy of PC Powerplay in the US? It's an australian magazine and I'm not sure if I've actually seen them selling it around? Anyone, any ideas? There's a four page article of the Silver Lining in it! :)
Lol, you would think after writing a 4 page article about a game you are developing, they would send you a copy of it :P
Even though they are supposed to and we ask about it as well, some of them just don't. Only Game Informer has been that amazingly polite. And Hebrew Quest, Gamespy and Jon Adventure have been kind enough to let us know when they had launched the articles online.
The article is REALLY good, so I suggest you all to read it :)
But how? We don't have a copy of it anywhere... How can we read it if we don't have a copy? (Is there any secret information?)
Oh, and Say, I sent you a PM and an e-mail... I would like a response on them if you can...
I know, I got them. And you shall get a reply once it's completed, don't you think? ;)
About the article, let's see if we can get it online for you guys.
Quote from: Say on May 07, 2006, 12:33:05 PM
I know, I got them. And you shall get a reply once it's completed, don't you think? ;)
About the article, let's see if we can get it online for you guys.
Oh! Sorry to bother you then!
The problem with the article is that it ends in mid-sentence. Where's the rest of it?
Don't forget Darren Gladstone from Computer Gaming World. He also sent us copies. :)
sorry for anyone who got offended by my last post... although i think only a few people did and everyone else was amused.
and i'm glad since it was not meant to bei nsulting, but to clear up the rumours i think kq9 should be released right now! can i get a hallelujah??
Well, if it was released now, then it would've been incomplete. And I know I want a complete game :P Can I get an "amen?" :P
Nah' - release it when it's done - we'll all be here waiting for it :)
amen
Can I get a "purple flamingos shoot balls of fire from their eyes"?
Maybe in animation ;)
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 09, 2006, 03:30:08 PM
amen
Can I get a "purple flamingos shoot balls of fire from their eyes"?
You got it! XD
you have been delaying it since December!!!, come on admit it's just a lie folks!!!!!!!
You don't know what you're talking about! Have you not seen the HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES?! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE SCREENSHOTS?! HEARD THE MUSIC?! SEEN THE THOUSANDS OF DEDICATED FANS POST ON THIS FORUM?! ENCOURAGE THE TEAM?! SEEN THE RESPONSE WHEN VIVENDI SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT?! SEEN THE TRAILER?! THE MAKING OF VIDEO?! HAVE YOU EVER EVEN PLAYED A KING'S QUEST?!
Quote from: George Romero on May 09, 2006, 05:34:47 PM
you have been delaying it since December!!!, come on admit it's just a lie folks!!!!!!!
I'm offended! They delayed it because of the negociations with VU! Get with the program! (I don't mean to be mean...) If it was a lie, would they have spent all the time they did on the trailer (Which, by the way, is
volcanic!) ,screenshots, and the music and making of video? If it was all a lie, then Cesar would be laughing his head off at us or posting :suffer: exxcessively!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 09, 2006, 05:49:37 PM
You don't know what you're talking about! Have you not seen the HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES?! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE SCREENSHOTS?! HEARD THE MUSIC?! SEEN THE THOUSANDS OF DEDICATED FANS POST ON THIS FORUM?! ENCOURAGE THE TEAM?! SEEN THE RESPONSE WHEN VIVENDI SHUT DOWN THE PROJECT?! SEEN THE TRAILER?! THE MAKING OF VIDEO?! HAVE YOU EVER EVEN PLAYED A KING'S QUEST?!
Couldn't have said it better!
Thanks. When anyone disses King's Quest I get a little crazy. (For a good reason!)
Trolls annoy me. -_- The point is, there obviously IS a game, a game with the highest quality of work and dedication that a no-budget team can have. Actually, I think the team is more dedicated than most would've thought possible. :P They said winter, not December. We've only been in Spring for a month and they lost more time than that with Vivendi.
I know!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 09, 2006, 05:53:01 PM
Thanks. When anyone disses King's Quest I get a little crazy. (For a good reason!)
Who wouldn't? Don't mention it! I try to help out here as much as I can! If I had to wait another decade, I would! That's how dedicated to this project I am! (Even though I don't work on it! XD)
Quote from: Rosella on May 09, 2006, 05:56:56 PM
Trolls annoy me. -_- The point is, there obviously IS a game, a game with the highest quality of work and dedication that a no-budget team can have. Actually, I think the team is more dedicated than most would've thought possible. :P They said winter, not December. We've only been in Spring for a month and they lost more time than that with Vivendi.
True!
I'm in a bad mood right now (because of a certain "friend" who insists on proving that she's better than everyone,) so I'd suggest trolls beware, or feel my wrath. ;P
Note: I just noticed that if you press Ctrl+Z, you can undo stuff, just like in Word!! XD
XD
Hope you feel better soon....
And if the "friend" keeps doing that....
[spoiler] Tell her that YOU have beaten all the KQs and SHE hasn't even heard of them!
Quote from: Rosella on May 09, 2006, 06:02:59 PM
I'm in a bad mood right now (because of a certain "friend" who insists on proving that she's better than everyone,) so I'd suggest trolls beware, or feel my wrath. ;P
Note: I just noticed that if you press Ctrl+Z, you can undo stuff, just like in Word!! XD
I know many people like that! There's a girl who wants me to go :stabs: myself! She's horrible!
But back on topic!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 09, 2006, 06:05:41 PM
XD
Hope you feel better soon....
And if the "friend" keeps doing that....
[spoiler] Tell her that YOU have beaten all the KQs and SHE hasn't even heard of them!
XD That should do it!
Definitely! ;D
She'll insist that computer games are inutile and that I'm otiose for taking pride in beating them.
She just uses big words to make herself sound so smart and calls herself "sagacious." She's just not. She's burning bridges she hasn't even crossed yet, and that's anything but wise. The sad thing is, no matter how many times she insults my character, says I'm useless, refuses to listen to what I have to say, believes rumors, and makes me cry, I still forgive her with a half-sincere apology. -_-
But back on topic, um....TSL rules! :P
I'll start a thread about this, for us to talk about such issues...
Come on !! the "shut down" and negociations , took about a month or so , we have been waiting around a year , So what it comes to my mind is, when Vivendi told you guys that there was not going to be any game , you threw all the work you have done or what???
You have been warned. ;P
FYI, the project was cancelled September 30th. November 29th was the day POS was allowed to continue. Two months that they could've worked on the game were used to get the game back in production. Of course we've been waiting about a year. Do you think people just create a game of THIS caliber in a week? Are you telling me that you can't think of a game that took more than a year to make? At the very least, the release date would be pushed back 2 months, but since Vivendi has to review it, it'll take longer. Deal with it! If you spent more time supporting the team instead of making pointless accusations, maybe it would be done faster. I'd like to see you make a KQ9 and see how that turns out.
You told him!
I'm going to reply and not for our new poster over there that apparently has got plenty of time, but for our forum friends.
The more exposure we get the more random posters and amusing comments you'll read. For those who have been here for a while, and know us, and have even worked with us at different levels yet still support us, do know the truth. There is no point for you explain yourself over and over or let alone get mad at wild guesses. I've been extremely busy myself at work these couple of weeks and the few minutes I've got of my personal agenda are just to commit to work, personal life? I've given that up for a while, apparently.
Sadly as it's widely known, we all have real jobs because POS is not financing TSL, why? because it's owned by VU, we've been lucky enough to have achieved this outcome so far, so we're making the best of it. The negotiations with VU are SLOW, there's still some minor details going on between our lawyer and VU law department, due to there are things that are beyond common sense and obviously we need real aid, thankfully everything is going on alright. Time is not our own anymore, on top of everything.
We do not have time of our own for this, we stay up for days working, we don't have weekends, but do understand for anyone who is working/studying, the time for you to be able to sit down in front of the computer and get what you must variates to probably 3 hours to 6 hours a day. Cesar and I, can clearly claim we both take about 5 to 6 hours in a day, we wake up first thing we do is check emails, contact staff, check whatever we must for the day and then get to OUR schedule, wether is organizing or just sitting down and DOING things. I know for a fact one of the most dedicated on this team is Cesar, he practically has no life of his own. He has worked with ME on research, on PR development and whatever I might need help with. He also gives Rich a hand BIG time, with animation, scheduling, 2D and sometimes 3D, and he does help in all the other departments just as well. There are days that he's totally into animations, or composing music, or just giving me a hand at PR himself.
So, it's ridiculous to believe anyone would be gullible enough to believe such lie or let alone do it. Those who are eager enough to spend their time like that is because they would be capable of doing something like that. I speak for myself when I let you all know I work 10 hours a day, I'm a manager at an international company, I don't have time for absolutly anything, I get home at 9 pm and I try to get around MY things 3 to 4 hours DAILY, then on weekends I'm glued to the computer as well most of Saturday and Sunday working about 7 to 8 hours. So I'm on my lunch break now and I read that and I can't particularly believe the time some have to even gossip or just waste time being negative just because.
Also, it doesn't matter if all the directors give up their lives, we're nothing without our assistants who happen to have as much load of responsabilities, Neil for example. He has stayed up with me up till 3 am many times just working nonstop till we manage to finish so we can move on with our schedule. And yes, we're not getting paid by it, we're passion driven here. So obviously, we wish we had more time, but sadly we have to work, we have to go to the doctor or sleep and eat sometimes. Things are not entirely up to us, we have staff who happens to be in the SAME condition as us, plenty with just as many activities as us and even so we try to make the BEST out of it.
I'm not going to try to convince anyone of anything, whoever who wants to be with us and support us is just more than welcome here, TSL is an amazing fan community: friendly people, down to earth, honest and obviously extremely committed and loving. For those who fail to 'believe' or want to just come around with negative expectations due to frustration or whatever, please, keep it friendly because whoever who won't play fair (aka offend and insult people around) will get banned, and for those who simply have nothing better to do you will be quite lucky if you have Rosella or any of our other cool forum friends around here to give you a proper reply, because my staff and myself are obviously not available for games.
For those who have been quite nice and friendly to keep replying and try to set the record straight, kuddos to you, you're more than just appreciated by us. It means a lot to us that you love us and support us this much and we work FOR YOU, for those who care and will give us this amazing suppor that -no matter what- life has put in our way we happen to continue and even stronger.
I love you guys, sorry for the long rant. I felt like doing it.
Quote from: Say on May 10, 2006, 10:07:59 AM
I'm going to reply and not for our new poster over there that apparently has got plenty of time, but for our forum friends.
The more exposure we get the more random posters and amusing comments you'll read. For those who have been here for a while, and know us, and have even worked with us at different levels yet still support us, do know the truth. There is no point for you explain yourself over and over or let alone get mad at wild guesses. I've been extremely busy myself at work these couple of weeks and the few minutes I've got of my personal agenda are just to commit to work, personal life? I've given that up for a while, apparently.
Sadly as it's widely known, we all have real jobs because POS is not financing TSL, why? because it's owned by VU, we've been lucky enough to have achieved this outcome so far, so we're making the best of it. The negotiations with VU are SLOW, there's still some minor details going on between our lawyer and VU law department, due to there are things that are beyond common sense and obviously we need real aid, thankfully everything is going on alright. Time is not our own anymore, on top of everything.
We do not have time of our own for this, we stay up for days working, we don't have weekends, but do understand for anyone who is working/studying, the time for you to be able to sit down in front of the computer and get what you must variates to probably 3 hours to 6 hours a day. Cesar and I, can clearly claim we both take about 5 to 6 hours in a day, we wake up first thing we do is check emails, contact staff, check whatever we must for the day and then get to OUR schedule, wether is organizing or just sitting down and DOING things. I know for a fact one of the most dedicated on this team is Cesar, he practically has no life of his own. He has worked with ME on research, on PR development and whatever I might need help with. He also gives Rich a hand BIG time, with animation, scheduling, 2D and sometimes 3D, and he does help in all the other departments just as well. There are days that he's totally into animations, or composing music, or just giving me a hand at PR himself.
So, it's ridiculous to believe anyone would be gullible enough to believe such lie or let alone do it. Those who are eager enough to spend their time like that is because they would be capable of doing something like that. I speak for myself when I let you all know I work 10 hours a day, I'm a manager at an international company, I don't have time for absolutly anything, I get home at 9 pm and I try to get around MY things 3 to 4 hours DAILY, then on weekends I'm glued to the computer as well most of Saturday and Sunday working about 7 to 8 hours. So I'm on my lunch break now and I read that and I can't particularly believe the time some have to even gossip or just waste time being negative just because.
Also, it doesn't matter if all the directors give up their lives, we're nothing without our assistants who happen to have as much load of responsabilities, Neil for example. He has stayed up with me up till 3 am many times just working nonstop till we manage to finish so we can move on with our schedule. And yes, we're not getting paid by it, we're passion driven here. So obviously, we wish we had more time, but sadly we have to work, we have to go to the doctor or sleep and eat sometimes. Things are not entirely up to us, we have staff who happens to be in the SAME condition as us, plenty with just as many activities as us and even so we try to make the BEST out of it.
I'm not going to try to convince anyone of anything, whoever who wants to be with us and support us is just more than welcome here, TSL is an amazing fan community: friendly people, down to earth, honest and obviously extremely committed and loving. For those who fail to 'believe' or want to just come around with negative expectations due to frustration or whatever, please, keep it friendly because whoever who won't play fair (aka offend and insult people around) will get banned, and for those who simply have nothing better to do you will be quite lucky if you have Rosella or any of our other cool forum friends around here to give you a proper reply, because my staff and myself are obviously not available for games.
For those who have been quite nice and friendly to keep replying and try to set the record straight, kuddos to you, you're more than just appreciated by us. It means a lot to us that you love us and support us this much and we work FOR YOU, for those who care and will give us this amazing suppor that -no matter what- life has put in our way we happen to continue and even stronger.
I love you guys, sorry for the long rant. I felt like doing it.
Hey, I do long rants all the time! I'm happy to be a part of this community, becuase I'm always welcome here. No one really thinks any less of anyone here, because their all nice. That's why I love this community. The developers actually go on the forum when they can, and as far as I know, not many other company's do that! TSL is a project that was blessed by an angel. It did the impossible, which was convince a corporate entity to give very dedicated fans their IP. POS is the very definition of ambitious and dedicated! Every single person I know who works on the project, no matter what the posistion is, whether it be Moderator, or director, is extremely dedicated, and tries to tackle their everyday problems and schedules as well as work on this, which is quite amazing! I don't even know if I could do that! I have school to go to on weekdays, and then I have to go to Sudbury Farms and bag groceries for usually five hours or three hours. My breaks are minimal, like fifteen minutes, and if I'm lucky, a half-hour lunch break. If I was working on this project, I would try to put as much of my heart and soul as I could into it! POS is not a bunch of corporate people being paid for their work. They are the opposite. They are fans, extremely dedicated to their task, driven by passion and dedication, driven by the love of an astounding series, not money. And some of the designers have never even played a King's Quest game!
Quote from: Rosella on May 09, 2006, 08:12:25 PM
You have been warned. ;P
FYI, the project was cancelled September 30th. November 29th was the day POS was allowed to continue. Two months that they could've worked on the game were used to get the game back in production. Of course we've been waiting about a year. Do you think people just create a game of THIS caliber in a week? Are you telling me that you can't think of a game that took more than a year to make? At the very least, the release date would be pushed back 2 months, but since Vivendi has to review it, it'll take longer. Deal with it! If you spent more time supporting the team instead of making pointless accusations, maybe it would be done faster. I'd like to see you make a KQ9 and see how that turns out.
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 10, 2006, 05:13:35 AM
You told him!
You defintely told him!
So, all in all, You guys work hard, and are succesful thereof. By working hard, towards a goal, you truly
can do the impossible! I'm proud to be apart of this forum, whether I work with the team or not! And, all the fans do work with the team, by giving them their support!
I am really very excited... I have been playing Kings Quest games since I was about 9 years old... I am in love...
:-*
Quote from: Casey on May 10, 2006, 11:33:48 AM
I am really very excited... I have been playing Kings Quest games since I was about 9 years old... I am in love...
:-*
Great! Keep playing them! I've been playing King's Quest since I was five, I think...
Quote from: conspiracist on May 07, 2006, 11:28:11 PM
sorry for anyone who got offended by my last post... although i think only a few people did and everyone else was amused.
and i'm glad since it was not meant to bei nsulting, but to clear up the rumours i think kq9 should be released right now! can i get a hallelujah??
Actually I think they were amused by my witty reply, but maybe that is a figment of my imagination too....
Quest on Daventry citizens....
This one goes out to Say. All I have to say is that all your hard work and dedication has been much appreciated. I am relatively knew here (only posting for about two months now...). However, I feel like it is a big family here. I continually see the same people, and it is nice to have a group of people that I view as friends, albeit in digital format. I have been playing KQ for over two decades and welcome the next chapter in the saga. Thank you so much Say for everything and I wish I could help out with everything, but I don't have any artistic or programming skills. Please accept my gratitude in the form of kind words and if you have any suggestions, please let me know. The whole team is the greatest for giving up all you time like this.
Quest on Daventry Citizens........
Thank you guys, remember I'm not the only working monkey here! There are SO many, and as I said, amazing is how Cesar after all he has to do he still finds the time to sit down with you and just work around anything that he could give a hand for. I wish my real boss would be just as good as he is.
We need great people working with us but we also need the fans, the fans were the ones that gave us a BIG lead with VU negotiations, so yes, you're the better half of POS ;) You help by being around, supporting us, and most important of all by being as cool as you guys are <3
The sad thing is now with VU in control nothing really seems to be happening at least as far as the fans can see it. The website journal used to be updated frequently and this website was updated with lots of stuff all the time. Unfortunately, now that VU runs the show everything seems to be on hold as far as the fans can see. Keep up the good work, POS and let us the fans know if there is any way that we can push VU to let you have more control.
I think the key word here is patience. An update will happen. But I know that the team has a lot on their plates, especially when trying to comply with Vivendi's "demands" and to continue production of the game. No worries. I don't think anyone will be disappointed :)
The longer the wait, the better the content!
Quote from: Say on May 10, 2006, 06:57:29 PM
Thank you guys, remember I'm not the only working monkey here! There are SO many, and as I said, amazing is how Cesar after all he has to do he still finds the time to sit down with you and just work around anything that he could give a hand for. I wish my real boss would be just as good as he is.
We need great people working with us but we also need the fans, the fans were the ones that gave us a BIG lead with VU negotiations, so yes, you're the better half of POS ;) You help by being around, supporting us, and most important of all by being as cool as you guys are <3
Every single POS team member is a working monkey in my opinion! And I wish my boss(es) would be as nice as Cesar. They just tell me randomly, DD, take this out for me, bag at number 10 for me, go on fifteen minute break, stuff like that... (I used DD instead of my real name...)
Quote from: dew7 on May 10, 2006, 07:53:37 PM
The sad thing is now with VU in control nothing really seems to be happening at least as far as the fans can see it. The website journal used to be updated frequently and this website was updated with lots of stuff all the time. Unfortunately, now that VU runs the show everything seems to be on hold as far as the fans can see. Keep up the good work, POS and let us the fans know if there is any way that we can push VU to let you have more control.
The problem with 'control' itself is that we can't post about something that we're not
sure of it when we say it, because if VU takes long to reply or something else comes along, maybe we can't launch something or pass on some info to the press, so POS would look bad to annouce something and not deliver, so obviously, it's... somehow suffocating because when it comes to deadlines, we're also in the dark, but at the same time, we're legal which is something to be quite happy about... so it's a bittersweet emotion.
So, regardless of the new limits (time, money and now asking for permission! as if we needed more!) It's all good, not many fan groups get to be where we are, not many achieve so many good things in such a brief time. So as Catherine said, patience might be a good thing to consider for now. We're doing the best at hand at the moment.
Thanks Say! I just hope that the website will end up being updated in May. Keep up the good work! ;)
Well, guys, I have been silently following The Silver Lining project for a while. Sadly, due to school and work, I did not even know that the project had at one point been shut down....how depressed I was when I read that, not having read the news that it had been approved to start up again. But then I saw what Vivendi said about allowing the project to continue. YAY!! I just want to say this: even if the updates take some time to make it to the site, due to what dew7 said about being SURE about them, I think that I can speak for most of the people here when I say that it is worth the wait. You guys are doing a wonderful job. Keep it up, and just post something here and there to let us know you're still alive and ticking, even if it has nothing to do with an update.
TSL AND TEAM FOREVER!!!!!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 11, 2006, 05:27:14 AM
TSL AND TEAM FOREVER!!!!!
Diddo!
All for one and one for all! ;D
Quote from: Say on May 10, 2006, 10:07:59 AM
I'm going to reply and not for our new poster over there that apparently has got plenty of time, but for our forum friends.
Well said let’s hear it for Say!
YAAAAAA!
Anybody who comes in complaining, especially thought who won’t take the time to register, and who won’t take the time to read the FULL “The Silver Lining†thread really deserve whatever repercussions occur. I did at the beginning of the year and it answered all my questions. Since then my morning work ritual includes checking this forum to keep up to date.
POS keep up the good work. We understand that any decrease in updates and delays in the game are pretty much out of your hands now. It’ll come out when it comes out and I and many other will still be patiently waiting.
OK lets hear it for all the hard work and long hours put in by POS.
HIP HIP HURRAH!
HIP HIP HURRAH!
con it be confirmed confirmed that kq9 will be released in 2006?
OMG! I just did a random google on the old school stellar series that I played for hours on end to see if anything good was happening and I find this huge fan dedicated project! This is truly killer and I wish you guys all the best of luck in your effort. If you make something decent that isn't the POS that number 8 was then you all will have made your bones in the gaming world. Again good luck!!! !!!
Quote from: conspiracist on May 16, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
con it be confirmed confirmed that kq9 will be released in 2006?
Nothing can be confirmed yet. :)
Ah, the sweet agony of waiting, like so many years ago when your mother used to tell you not to dig for your christmas presents in her closet in November ;)
Only this timme istead of jolly good Santa it'll be jolly good Graham. How's that for a seasonal change? :)
Quote from: Maus Merryjest on May 17, 2006, 09:32:08 AM
Ah, the sweet agony of waiting, like so many years ago when your mother used to tell you not to dig for your christmas presents in her closet in November ;)
Only this timme istead of jolly good Santa it'll be jolly good Graham. How's that for a seasonal change? :)
It's a welcome one!
Quote from: fireBAD on May 16, 2006, 10:35:28 PM
OMG! I just did a random google on the old school stellar series that I played for hours on end to see if anything good was happening and I find this huge fan dedicated project! This is truly killer and I wish you guys all the best of luck in your effort. If you make something decent that isn't the POS that number 8 was then you all will have made your bones in the gaming world. Again good luck!!! !!!
I agree with what he said...
Quote from: Warlock on May 16, 2006, 10:37:51 PM
Quote from: conspiracist on May 16, 2006, 10:32:32 PM
con it be confirmed confirmed that kq9 will be released in 2006?
Nothing can be confirmed yet. :)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the front page kind of confirm it's coming out in 2006? I can't imagine why it wouldn't, seeing as how the game was scheduled to come out last winter, and the team only lost a few months of production...
The decision on when to release the game is not solely in the hands of Phoenix Online Studios. The decision also rests with Vivendi Games.
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 17, 2006, 06:35:06 PM
The decision on when to release the game is not solely in the hands of Phoenix Online Studios. The decision also rests with Vivendi Games.
I'm with him...
What interest do they have in the game's release date, of all things? It didn't seem as though AGDI had any problems with their games release dates: once they were done, they were released.
I'm not saying Vivendi ISN'T restricting POS, just that it is bizarre to do so.
Oh, and the confirmation it's coming out in 2006:
QuoteWe are still unsure of our new release date, but we can say that it will happen somewhere during 2006.
It's actually not that bizarre. KQ1VGA and KQ2VGA were developped and released prior to their interaction with Vivendi. The release of those games were not subject to Vivendi's approval.
Quote from: Yonkey on May 17, 2006, 07:43:43 PM
It's actually not that bizarre. KQ1VGA and KQ2VGA were developped and released prior to their interaction with Vivendi. The release of those games were not subject to Vivendi's approval.
I'd have to go with Yonkey here on this one... I didn't actually know that, but I'll pretend I did! But it does make sense... VG just saw POS's KQIX (now TSL) before it was finished because the trailer was making a huge hit online... You didn't see a trailer that was
that well done from AGDI, now did you?
AGDI didn't have trailers. KQ3VGA does though...
Fair enough. It's confirmed for 2006 though, so that's all that matters, right? ;D
I would think so!
I think the concern was that POS was making a sequel to the King's Quest series rather than remaking one of the old games and VU wants to have the chance to make their own sequel in the future if they decide they want to make it.
... I believe they already have plans to develop to KQIX, and the Compilations may prove my theory right... Although it is unlikely!
Yeah, but part of the result of the agreement with Vivendi was that The Silver Lining is no longer even an unofficial sequel, it's just a game based on the King's Quest world. So that kind of eliminates that argument.
What, that VU supposedly is making KQIX? It doesn't really elimenate it the way I see it... It seems to prove to me that they could secretly be working on one... Why else would the compilations be delayed by almost a whole year (from the first delay)? Oh well. I don't want to get in a whole argument or go offtopic or anything...
Nah, I was responding to Dew...
Never mind! I didn't say anything! You never heard me say a thing...
Only those who hear most clearly can disregard the Great Oracle.
Maybe they'll put a super secret easter egg in the game that says, "The Official Unofficial King's Quest IX."
Only in Navajo Windtalker code so that VU will overlook it when they gamma test the game.
Quote from: sivvrianBARRY on May 18, 2006, 03:41:58 PM
Yeah, but part of the result of the agreement with Vivendi was that The Silver Lining is no longer even an unofficial sequel, it's just a game based on the King's Quest world. So that kind of eliminates that argument.
How does it eliminate it. In my opinion, Vivendi did not seem to care when old King's Quest games were redone but when they saw POS working on an unofficial sequel then they wanted to make sure that they could be the only ones to do a sequel. I think the fans who cried foul and really wanted the game were the ones that made Vivendi allow the game to continue but under a different name.
Listen to sivvrianBARRY, he's right.
One of the biggest concerns when we started talking with VU, was the fact they said "you're a sequel" sort of like the whole new content couldn't be fit in front of their eyes as a sequel, but instead a game inspired of it.
Even though that's the nature of the project, legally we had to address it differently in order to leave that oportunit to them, even if they won't ever get to do it, it's their right. Just to let you know, noone neither confirmed or denied that info, but my personal opinion is that they seem to not foresee that as an oportunity (creating a KQIX of their own).
And yes, once the game is done, VU shall be the first to know, check it out and give us the "Ok, it's good to go" or "Oh here's the things we don't like...". So far, everything they've seen they haven't denied or changed, but the namd because of the reasons I expressed before.
Understandable! I can still dream about them making an official sequel though!
In my opinion, VU doesn't have the ability to make an "official" sequel. I will always think of TSL as the official KQIX.
"A rose by any other name...."
Quest on Daventry Citizens.......
I would too, but still! I'm just saying!
Well... they have the IP, resources, money and staff to do whatever they want, so if they ever do consider it seriously, it'd be possible. What POS has got is the passion and the will to go for it.
Quote from: Say on May 18, 2006, 08:57:08 PM
Well... they have the IP, resources, money and staff to do whatever they want, so if they ever do consider it seriously, it'd be possible. What POS has got is the passion and the will to go for it.
And the things that POS has are the things that are necessary to make an amazing game. I have said it before, but you have my full support.
But it's a remake so they won't get in trouble.
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 19, 2006, 05:38:06 AM
But it's a remake so they won't get in trouble.
Our game isn't a remake; KQIX doesn't exist. :P Even if VU decided to make an official KQIX, it most likely wouldn't be a remake of our game either.
Quote from: Yonkey on May 19, 2006, 05:42:34 AM
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on May 19, 2006, 05:38:06 AM
But it's a remake so they won't get in trouble.
Our game isn't a remake; KQIX doesn't exist. :P Even if VU decided to make an official KQIX, it most likely wouldn't be a remake of our game either.
Somehow, I thought we were talking about KQIIIVGA....It must be because I was reading the page before this.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 18, 2006, 07:59:42 PM
In my opinion, VU doesn't have the ability to make an "official" sequel.
I believe that VU has the technical ability to create a KQ game but I question their ability to create a story that ties into and continues the KQ atmosphere which POS has the knowledge and desire to do.
As with any big company it’s all about the money so don’t doubt that VU will be watching this closely. I’m betting that VU will be using POS as a test-bed to find out what type of fan fallowing there is. If there is enough downloads and it continues to get all the press coverage don’t doubt that they’ll try to cash in on that and make their own. So obviously if you want a chance at VU making a future KQ then when TSL comes out tell EVERYBODY you know and don’t give them a copy but make sure they download it.
While VU understandably doesn’t want the KQ name hurt because it would hurt any possible future games they might develop I don’t think this by it self is what brought POS on VU radar. I think it was two other things:
1) The fact that POS is writing a NEW story (not a remake) and their ability to make their game truly look professional.
2) The fact thy put IX in their title.
The KQ name by itself POS might have gotten away with since AGDI did but theirs was a remake not a new game so it wouldn’t affect VU as much as a NEW game with the KQ name. Add that to the fact that POS put IX in the title just begged for VU to step in. They might have been able to slip under the radar had they not put the IX in their title simply because IX implies a sequel and obviously VU can’t have that.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 18, 2006, 07:59:42 PM
I will always think of TSL as the official KQIX.
I’m with you there and I think most of the people who frequent this forum are too.
;D
Welcome. You bring up sme interesting points. If TSL, were to get finished and released, would VU have the ability to ask POS to have the link removed and destroyed to prevent downloading and then sell the game?
ok
so the game isn't confirmed for 2006 as you said phoenix staff person.
and the reason taht no updates or news is posted is that incase you can't deliver it you don't want to say anything? is this also correct
Someone said it wasn't confirmed for 2006, but they were wrong.
THE RELEASE DATE FOR TSL IS IN 2006! Who knows if it will get delayed, but currently, 2006 IS CONFIRMED!
If you don't believe me, read the front page of this site.
Quote from: Shades2585 on May 19, 2006, 08:59:47 AM
Quote from: tait2001 on May 18, 2006, 07:59:42 PM
In my opinion, VU doesn't have the ability to make an "official" sequel.
I believe that VU has the technical ability to create a KQ game but I question their ability to create a story that ties into and continues the KQ atmosphere which POS has the knowledge and desire to do.
As with any big company it’s all about the money so don’t doubt that VU will be watching this closely. I’m betting that VU will be using POS as a test-bed to find out what type of fan fallowing there is. If there is enough downloads and it continues to get all the press coverage don’t doubt that they’ll try to cash in on that and make their own. So obviously if you want a chance at VU making a future KQ then when TSL comes out tell EVERYBODY you know and don’t give them a copy but make sure they download it.
While VU understandably doesn’t want the KQ name hurt because it would hurt any possible future games they might develop I don’t think this by it self is what brought POS on VU radar. I think it was two other things:
1) The fact that POS is writing a NEW story (not a remake) and their ability to make their game truly look professional.
2) The fact thy put IX in their title.
The KQ name by itself POS might have gotten away with since AGDI did but theirs was a remake not a new game so it wouldn’t affect VU as much as a NEW game with the KQ name. Add that to the fact that POS put IX in the title just begged for VU to step in. They might have been able to slip under the radar had they not put the IX in their title simply because IX implies a sequel and obviously VU can’t have that.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 18, 2006, 07:59:42 PM
I will always think of TSL as the official KQIX.
I’m with you there and I think most of the people who frequent this forum are too.
;D
Hi shades,
you have some very inspired and intelligent points here. What I was saying that VU doesn't have the right spirit or inspiration to to make an official game (of course, just my opinion). All the money and technical power in the world wouldn't make a difference (as VU seems to wield).
What they lack is the true backing for the adventure gaming genre as a whole. I am sure there are designers and other staff there that love the genre, however as with any business, it all comes down to making money. Until they are no longer driven purely by the ability to make money, they will not be in the right mindset to create a game that is aimed to please the gamers. Only to please their commercial interests.
The first KQ games were not created purely to just make money (although I am sure that was partially a motivator). They were created to please the adventuring spirit that Roberta Williams obviously had (based on the quality of her games and the leaps and bounds that she took the adventure game genre). To truly create a classic game in this genre that will have the same kind of impact that the previous king's quest games had, you need to have a similar spirit.
I have no doubts that TSL will have this kind of impact. They have already had more press coverage than a lot of commercial games. They already have an incredibly large fan base even before the game has been released. This is thanks to the dedication of all the very hard working people on this project. Without them, this would never have come to fruition. Also without all the fans, this project would have died back in October. It has been a very large group effort. It will live on in our minds for some time to come. I commend and applaud everyone that has had some hand in this game.
I apologize about the length of my post. It was only supposed to be a clarification of a statement in one of my previous posts, but sometimes we all get inspired.
Quest on Daventry citizens.....
Quote from: conspiracist on May 19, 2006, 10:44:24 AM
ok
so the game isn't confirmed for 2006 as you said phoenix staff person.
and the reason taht no updates or news is posted is that incase you can't deliver it you don't want to say anything? is this also correct
Did I? Actaually, I was mearly asking a question about the release :P
And here I thought, the first KQ's were to provide animsted graphics :P (see the compilations CD for the special features)
Quote from: Say on May 18, 2006, 06:35:35 PM
Listen to sivvrianBARRY, he's right.
One of the biggest concerns when we started talking with VU, was the fact they said "you're a sequel" sort of like the whole new content couldn't be fit in front of their eyes as a sequel, but instead a game inspired of it.
Even though that's the nature of the project, legally we had to address it differently in order to leave that oportunit to them, even if they won't ever get to do it, it's their right. Just to let you know, noone neither confirmed or denied that info, but my personal opinion is that they seem to not foresee that as an oportunity (creating a KQIX of their own).
And yes, once the game is done, VU shall be the first to know, check it out and give us the "Ok, it's good to go" or "Oh here's the things we don't like...". So far, everything they've seen they haven't denied or changed, but the namd because of the reasons I expressed before.
Thanks Say! :->
Quote from: Deloria on May 19, 2006, 09:05:25 AM
Welcome. You bring up sme interesting points.
Thank you and I’m glad to be here.
Quote from: Deloria on May 19, 2006, 09:05:25 AM
If TSL, were to get finished and released, would VU have the ability to ask POS to have the link removed and destroyed to prevent downloading and then sell the game?
I have no legal background so these are just my assumptions and gut feelings. I don’t know what agreements POS and VU have come to or even IF they’ve come to one yet but from what I’ve read here VU pretty much has final say on this project so essentially Yes I think they could if they truly wanted to but I doubt they well. This is a KQ game after all and nearly everything in it probably falls under copyright laws which VU owns on this. However if VU did that I’d be willing to bet that everyone here would boycott that game if not everything VU sales as well as ignite a lot of bad press which I’m sure VU would not want and would not help them sell anything. Look what the fans did already. It’s still going in some part due to the fans and the press it received.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 19, 2006, 11:35:43 AM
Hi shades,
you have some very inspired and intelligent points here. What I was saying that VU doesn't have the right spirit or inspiration to to make an official game (of course, just my opinion).
I agree and that’s what I assumed you meant.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 19, 2006, 11:35:43 AMWhat they lack is the true backing for the adventure gaming genre as a whole.
I agree but everybody had to start somewhere and it would be interesting to find out what they do. They way companies like VU are now days they can hire and then release the muscle needed after just one game. Maybe they would even hire POS. It happened to the DLAdventures group.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 19, 2006, 11:35:43 AMUntil they are no longer driven purely by the ability to make money, they will not be in the right mindset to create a game that is aimed to please the gamers. Only to please their commercial interests.
I don’t entirely agree with that but money is indeed the bottom line and like any company you have to show a profit or you’re out of a job soon after. That’s the good thing about web distribution because it relieves a company of a lot of cost in designing and manufacturing and distributing boxed product. Eventually I see them all coming that way.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 19, 2006, 11:35:43 AMI have no doubts that TSL will have this kind of impact. They have already had more press coverage than a lot of commercial games. They already have an incredibly large fan base even before the game has been released. This is thanks to the dedication of all the very hard working people on this project. Without them, this would never have come to fruition. Also without all the fans, this project would have died back in October. It has been a very large group effort. It will live on in our minds for some time to come. I commend and applaud everyone that has had some hand in this game.
There is no doubt that that POS has the desire and abilities to carry on the KS Spirit. I too believe that both the press and the fans contributed to it’s resurrection but if the delay presently occurring are because of VU, as I believe they are, and VU continues to delay the game then the fan support will dwindle to the point of near nonexistence and what will happen then is anybody’s guess. I truly hope VU doesn’t do this. ???
Quest on indeed my friends. ;D
well all I have to say is that My support is here no matter how long it takes to get this game out.
Quest on Daventry Citizens......
Same! My allegence is to TSL!
I must concur, however if VU does release their own KQIX someday, it would be wise of us to support it (if it carries on the adventure tradition.) If we don't, and we kill it, then we may kill off commercial adventure gaming in its entirety.
Thanks to POS continuing the adventure.
It would really have to be good for me to support a VU made KQIX. Simply put: if it lacked the story, artwork, and quality that our game has, I would not play it. But more specifically, if it was some lousy attempt at a continuation (i.e. MoE, LSL:MCL) rather than a true KQ sequel, I would definitely not support it.
Quote from: Shades2585 on May 19, 2006, 08:59:47 AM
While VU understandably doesn’t want the KQ name hurt because it would hurt any possible future games they might develop I don’t think this by it self is what brought POS on VU radar. I think it was two other things:
1) The fact that POS is writing a NEW story (not a remake) and their ability to make their game truly look professional.
2) The fact thy put IX in their title.
I'd add two more things:
3) The change of their website from .org to .com
4) Their claim of copyright to all original material. Personally, I don't think that the makers of fan games, whether they be remakes, sequels, prequels, or interquels, should claim any copyright to the games they make, even to "original material." It just strikes me as a bit hypocritical to use other people's copyrighted material without permission yet to claim copyright on all "original material." Does that mean that, if someone else were to use the "original material" without permission, that the makers of the fan game would sue that person for copyright infringement? What about material that is original but based on material that is not, such as the new scenes from the Land of the Green Isles? If you claim copyright on that, then, in principle, you could sue Vivendi if they were to use that material in an official KQIX.
My opinion is that fan games should contain a notice that all copyrights are held by the owners of the authorized games, even on "original material."
I hereby swear fealty to TSL!
Ditto.
Quote from: tait2001 on May 19, 2006, 03:19:14 PM
well all I have to say is that My support is here no matter how long it takes to get this game out.
I’m with you there.
Quote from: maestro on May 21, 2006, 10:03:41 AM
My opinion is that fan games should contain a notice that all copyrights are held by the owners of the authorized games, even on "original material."
People deserve the right to control what happens with their products. If you made something, we’ll say a goodly character, and somebody took it and was turning it into a depreciating mockery of what you intended, to such an extent that when anybody saw your character that whey would think of only that mockery and not what you created or intended than you would want to have control, therefore copyright, of your character to have that project halted until your character was removed or you came to an agreement with the project creator about how you wanted your character handled. I understand VU’s concern and I can also understand why POS would want to copyright their own unique characters. Who knows if TSL does well then maybe later some of POS’s characters might appear in a VU KQ game?!
Quote from: dark-daventry on May 21, 2006, 06:18:07 PM
Forgive my unknowlegable reply, but what does fealty mean?
He he If in doubt look it up. That’ why I like this site. http://www.m-w.com
Quote from: ciborium on May 20, 2006, 09:50:39 PM
I must concur, however if VU does release their own KQIX someday, it would be wise of us to support it (if it carries on the adventure tradition.) If we don't, and we kill it, then we may kill off commercial adventure gaming in its entirety.
I agree. (Lets not kill it before it’s born. :))
Quote from: Yonkey on May 20, 2006, 11:34:01 PM
It would really have to be good for me to support a VU made KQIX. Simply put: if it lacked the story, artwork, and quality that our game has, I would not play it. But more specifically, if it was some lousy attempt at a continuation (i.e. MoE, LSL:MCL) rather than a true KQ sequel, I would definitely not support it.
I would like to think that I would at least buy the first one if for no other reason then to show support but if there ended up being a second game and it still didn’t measure up then no I would not.
Me and my long posts.
Quote from: Shades2585 on May 22, 2006, 09:17:26 AM
Me and my long posts.
My long posts and I. :P
Quote from: Yonkey on May 20, 2006, 11:34:01 PM
It would really have to be good for me to support a VU made KQIX. Simply put: if it lacked the story, artwork, and quality that our game has, I would not play it. But more specifically, if it was some lousy attempt at a continuation (i.e. MoE, LSL:MCL) rather than a true KQ sequel, I would definitely not support it.
I might buy it...if it looked good and the graphics and storyline looked promising. Otherwise, probably not. MoE and MCL were pathetic attempts, though I had the good grace to just play and buy MoE.
I'm brand new to this site, only today learning about TSL, but it is clear that one thing is true:
VU needs to be mighty careful about how they handle this situation, because there is a HUGE King's Quest fan base that has accumulated over many, many years. Despite how it may appear from a legal perspective, the political ramifications of a misstep could be more dramatic than any legal ones resulting from allowing this project to proceed.
Good luck, TSL team. I think it's safe to say that we're ALL behind you!
Best,
Peter (my life was forever changed when I first played the IBM version of King's Quest I on a PC Jr. before Sierra marketed it on its own. The year was 1983, and I was 8.)
Quote from: Cool Hand Pete on May 22, 2006, 04:50:06 PM
I'm brand new to this site, only today learning about TSL, but it is clear that one thing is true:
VU needs to be mighty careful about how they handle this situation, because there is a HUGE King's Quest fan base that has accumulated over many, many years. Despite how it may appear from a legal perspective, the political ramifications of a misstep could be more dramatic than any legal ones resulting from allowing this project to proceed.
Good luck, TSL team. I think it's safe to say that we're ALL behind you!
Best,
Peter (my life was forever changed when I first played the IBM version of King's Quest I on a PC Jr. before Sierra marketed it on its own. The year was 1983, and I was 8.)
Welcome! Whether you just found the site, or discovered it five years ago, you're always welcome into our community, as long as there is no flaming! The big fan base is thanks to POS and the
amazing designers that made this phenomenon happen! I hope you have fun, and feel free to register! It's free! (Isn't every forum free registering?)
Hi everyone. just wanted to say keep up the good work.
Erik Parkin
Quote from: dark-daventry on May 23, 2006, 01:32:18 PM
Quote from: Cool Hand Pete on May 22, 2006, 04:50:06 PM
I'm brand new to this site, only today learning about TSL, but it is clear that one thing is true:
VU needs to be mighty careful about how they handle this situation, because there is a HUGE King's Quest fan base that has accumulated over many, many years. Despite how it may appear from a legal perspective, the political ramifications of a misstep could be more dramatic than any legal ones resulting from allowing this project to proceed.
Good luck, TSL team. I think it's safe to say that we're ALL behind you!
Best,
Peter (my life was forever changed when I first played the IBM version of King's Quest I on a PC Jr. before Sierra marketed it on its own. The year was 1983, and I was 8.)
Welcome! Whether you just found the site, or discovered it five years ago, you're always welcome into our community, as long as there is no flaming! The big fan base is thanks to POS and the amazing designers that made this phenomenon happen! I hope you have fun, and feel free to register! It's free! (Isn't every forum free registering?)
Some forum's charge registration and subscribtion.
*glares at IGN*
No glaring! The point is, TSL is free to play and has a free forum. :P
A pretty, professional-looking forum :P
With nice people! We don't bite! Honest! XD
I was reading about the idea of VU taking the project as soon as it's done, forcing POS to remove the links to D/L, and marketing it themselves. I don't know how VU runs their business, but for a company to attempt something like that with a project this popular would probably be close to suicide.
Then I kept on reading...and noticed that POS is preventing this from happening. Somebody mentioned copyrighting 'original work' inside of a derivative work. Well, it is legal, and by all means, copyright your own stuff. That way, you can use it all you want down the road. What I liked was that since they have copyrighted all their own work, then VU CAN'T come in and take the project to market. They would have to receive permission from POS, which I doubt would happen (but oh, how ironic that would be), or they would have to re-create those aspects of the project before they could do anything. So....GO POS!! Keep up the original stuff :D
No offense, but at one point KQ's sold over 3000 000 copies. This cannot be considered popular by those standards :P
Well, from my understanding, TSL can be brought under VG's wing, as the game has been granted a fan license, and they do have to evaluate it, and see whether they can give the green light to release it. So basically, I believe that POS can and could be brought under commercial license. But I could be very wrong. Only time will tell!
Check the team section :P
OMG! ROSELLA'S A COMMUNITY REP! OMG! I HATE YOU! j/k!
did this thread get rolled back?
also is there really an update coming?
Quote from: conspiracy on May 30, 2006, 04:35:31 AM
did this thread get rolled back?
No. All the update-related posts were split and moved to here (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=3625.0). Please keep all update-related comments to that thread.
Thanks. :)
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