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In my continued effort make more posts, I would like to raise the following question:

Who do you think Rosella should go for - Edgar or Connor?
Since no real commitment  was made to Edgar on KQ7, it is quite possible that she'll return home to marry the macho, butch hero that saved the day and her country -
Edgar wasn't a man enough for her anyway, and she probably got over that feminist episode she had at KQ7 (Sierra sure did, resulting in KQ8...).


So please, don't leave me hanging. Tell me what you think - Should Rosella fall into the muscular arms of the dashing newcomer, or should she stick to the amnisiac wimp who doesn't know his own name for the better part of the plot?
To me, the choice is quite obvious! ;D ;D ;D

Well I don't like connor or edgar so I suppose they could always have some type of contest. A joust maybe?

hehehe, why dont we put them into a place to fight and let's get them into beating  each others crap and the one who totally knocks out the other one wins?  ;D

see?, a non violent totally fun game.... not to mention how romantic :)

 ::)

Now don't force me to do something unpleasant now...

Akril

And you call me a drug addict Say! Geeze cut back on the coke! Anyway what unpleasentness will you be doing Akril? Your madamme mushkaing my horoscope right?

No longer. Modern times have whittled the predictive qualities of the ancient signs down into some frivolous things that can be made up and that people no longer consequently take seriously. And I wasn't talking to you, but I'd probably crank out a few dozen Berber proverbs and a riddle or two as well, then say my typical schpiel in defense of Edgar.

Akril

*sigh* . . . . .

. . . . .  all Im going to say is "AGAIN"  ? ! ? ! ? ! ? !

Even though many of you out there dont understand it I wont explain it , but I know some people around here do know very well about this, and what I think... and HOW MUCH I DO ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT IT.

is like all over again, just this time i dont feel like explaining or anything, I think it was quite clear, but seriously just go and think WHATEVER you want to think.

I'm sorry I guess I'm usually nice?, well next time I guess.

Hey, a fair fight sounds like a good idea.
Of course Connor is going to beat Edgar's ass for sure - even  with using his magic Edgar still isn't strong enough (well, not for Connor at the end of MOE).

About Connor having a girlfriend - it isn't clear what his relations with Sarah are, but i'm sure he won't mind taking Rosella instead - after all, she is a princess and has longer & more beautiful blond hair...

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I finally got the picture to show up!
Sorry if it draws blank sometimes, but the server it is on is down more often than not. :(

Ok Akril I dont know what the hell Ive done to offend you or your work or your belief in horoscopes but Back off ok :-/ I only asked you a simple question there was no need to go on like your the queen of everything. Sorry if thats a bit harsh but thats how you came Across.

When did I say anything to give you the idea that I was talking to you personally, A_C? I specifically said "I wasn't talking to you" and also that I wasn't going to be saying anything bad about you in the horoscopes either.

Akril

hey! storm liked my idea i guess?  :)
well yeah, I was kidding anyways... but I agree with you on that one  ;D
But also TakariFreak was right, Connors got this Sarah girl and Edgar is more related into Rosella than Connor could ever be I guess, so yeah....

I think is a tricky subject anyways  :D
I still like storm's idea! hehehe  ;D

Ah. Sorry Akril I read your post wrong. It was all the big words! They confused me! :-[Sorry!

Well I don't know if Sierra had something planned for Rosella and Connor but the KQ9 team basically decided if that it was not meant to be.  If you read the interview with Connor in the first issue of the Four Winds, Connor clearly explains what his relationship with Sarah really is.  As for Edgar being a wimp, I think thats an overstatement.  And in KQ4, he didn't look too girlish either, at the end, he's pretty buff and even Rosella thinks he's handsome.  If they did fight for Rosella my money is on Edgar, sure he's the underdog but he was that in 2 previous KQs and he always came out on top, so I think he would make this a surprise victory by knockout.

I agree.  Though I still think Egdar is a wuss to an extent, we also have to figure in that we're never really seen the true him.  Plus it makes more political sense for him to be with Rosella than Connor

to me... both of them are cool, personal interest but it counts anyways  ;D

Politically speaking, it would be good if Rosella did marry Connor, because if she went with Edgar there would be no heir to the throne of Daventry - she would probably have to move with Edgar to Eldritch.  ::)

Well, I see the point here..but remember, the time where the KQ exists is a time where you didn't marry someone outside of your social class.  We live in a world were things like that are considered outdated and even silly.  But alas, such is not THEIR time.

And besides, I'm sure in both kingdoms they have someone else in line to rule.  After all, Graham wasn't really in line for the throne of Daventry by blood, he was CHOSEN.  It's the same with the President in America.  Something happens, vice take over.  Then speaker of the house...the list goes on and on.

I seem to be the only person who doesn't think that Rosella should become the heir to Etheria. I mean, look at our last "celebrity marriage" in KQ! The wife doesn't move to the husband's land. Cassima doesn't move to Daventry. Alexander moves to the Green Isles! And he had a choice to go back home too, with Shamir's powers. It would only be fair for Rosella to stay in HER homeland as well, since the male heir has abandoned the throne and she's Daventry's last hope, so to speak. It's only right that a child of the king and queen should rule the kingdom. I'm sure Edgar wouldn't mind moving in with her. The only problem would be finding an heir to Etheria. And I haven't played Mask Of Eternity, so I'm not going to say anything about Connor.


Akril

TakariFreak -
It's true that a princess can't marry a commoner, but Connor is the hero who saved the day, and in any fairytale you look that gives him the right to marry the princess.
Besides, this is a computer game. We can be more politicaly-correct here.

That is true..I've been living in reality too long now.  And since Edgar has been gone from Etheria for a long time, I'm sure they have a back-up heir there somewhere.  Besides, aren't Oberon and Titiana immortal anyhow?

I still think they should have a joust...

hehehe, yeah! :P
shall we open the bets Alex? hehehe ;)

Yeah, that'd be fair.  I'd like Edgar to win, but considering Connor's fighting skills, Edgar would probably get his @$$ kicked.

But what if they both kill each other?  THEN what happens?  I suppose Rosella is stuck with all the other suitors that are afetr her as mentioed in the beginning of KQ7....

HAHAHAHAHAHA  ;D

HAHHAHAHA thats fun as hell
hahahahahaha  ;D

I hope it wont piss people off around here but i would love to see it hahahaha, is fun picturing it though :P

Connor might win in a joust, but if they had a battle of wits Edgar is sure to win since Connor is  completely unarmed...

Suddenly I'm reminded of many many scenes from Monty Python & the Holy Grail.... ;D

hahaha id love to understand that joke but i've only seen the first few minutes ::)

It's apples and oranges here. You can't have these two go into combat with each other. They play on different game boards. Besides, if a man used his wits to save Rosella's life not once, but twice, I doubt she'd abandon him for another who uses the "impale first, ask questions later" method.

Akril

That's also true.  But what if a tounament consited of BOTH with wits and fighting skills?  THEN what?  I know I'm probably being annoying with these kind of comments, but I think it would be as funny as hell if they got to kick the crap out of each other just because.

Now even MORE Monty Python scenes are stuck in my head!

Forgive me for quoting another section from the same discussion on Moroccan magic that the "using a different board" bit came from:

"No manner of will can make oil mix with water."

Akril

oh we can so have it in our minds as much as we all like, and it pretty much seems we all think alike lately around here hahahaha  ;D
 
BETS ARE OPEN GUYS! hahahahaha  ;)

;D we all know is about -just- fun..... right?  ;D

"Brave Sir Robin rode forth from Camelot
He was not afraid to die, oh brave Sir Robin
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways,
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin..."  8)

Sorry, I just watched "Monty Pyton & The Holy Grail" last weekend...

Hey, the topic I started got RED HOT!!! yeah...  ;D

By the way Akril -
I read your fanfiction (really good!) so I know you like Edgar better, but Rosella also saved Edgar twice so that makes them even, and Connor did save her father's kindgom with his "impale first, ask questions later" method.

Also for your consideration, a few points against Edgar -  :(

1. His fondness of Rosella is what made Lolotte imprison her in the first place, to make her marry him - those who failed to escape in KQ4 must remember the wedding scene, where Rosella faints after he kisses her...

2. He doesn't seem to care when Rosella kills his own mother (or at least the one he thought was his mother).

3. The first thing he says to Rosella is "will you marry me?". He actually wants to marry a girl he doesn't even know and who just killed his mother just because she looks good.

4. He probably expects her to say "yes" just because HE looks good.

5. His pulling of Rosella through the mirror turned her into a troll. Not many girls can forgive that!

6. He IS the one who turns on the volcano on KQ7, with complete disregard for the lives of the citizens of Eldritch - he has enough presence to know that it will hurt them, but he still goes along with it...

Sorry about the long post...  ;) ;) ;) ;)

By the way, don't even get me started on Connor...

All of your questions will be answered when you click on "King's Quest IX' on your desktop for the first time and watch teh game intro :)

Well, maybe not all, but oh well...

:)

OK Dragonstar, Edgar's affection does save Rosella from certain death but it is completely self-motivated - if she was a guy, would he have asked his mother not to kill him (if he doesn't "swing both ways", I mean)?

Also, I don't see why he should hate Lolotte so as to want her death - she may have kidnapped him, but she raised him as her son and not as a slave, and she gives consideration to his wishes - she keeps Rosella alive even though she doesn't trust her.
It's clear that he wants her dead because he gives Rosella the golden key that also opens HER room, instead of just freeing her and let her run away, and if he wants her dead, why doesn't he do the deed himself instead of putting his beloved Rosella in such danger?
The fact is, he's just too much of a chicken to do it!
(I actually thought about writing a fanfiction about the whole thing, but I don't want to butt in on Akril's teritory... )

PLUS, his amnisia in KQ7 doesn't excuse him. That will never hold up in court  ;)

And Say - we wouldn't be able to have such a discussion about Connor because an analysis of his mind will be and exercise in futility. ;D

Pardon my ignorance, Akril, but who the heck is madame mushkaing? And what's a schpiel?

Madame Mushka is the fortune teller in KQ5. And "schpiel" is just a term that can mean "rant," "speech," or "statement." And I have nothing at all against people who like certain things, but people who compulsively hate seem to be wasting so much energy. Why not just say it and not harp on it any more than is necessary?

And since Connor's only been in one game so far, we don't know him well enough to make snap judgements. I haven't played the game yet, and so I'm not going to look at it in an entirely negative light. I just see it as a game that the majority didn't like and a game that I don't choose to play.

"If the light serves to see, it also serves to be seen."


Akril

I'm actually here to defend both guys...

And this is Connor time.

Did you know this tough guy is an artist? Now, to be an artist you have to be sensitive...

So, I'm sure he's just not about toughness after all. That was the way he had to react. How would you? Wait and see how a monster kills you?

I didn't think so either...

César

Cesar!  :o
you defending CONNOR?  ;D
this is SOO neww... hehehe

GO CESAR GO  :P

Well, I have a theory that says the monsters were only after him because of his irritating voice...  ;D

The truth is, I would take Edgar over Connor any day, flaws and all. I also think he is the best-looking guy on the KQ series, and that includes even Alexander.
Say - I hope you'll draw him accordingly!  :D

Forget CONNOR forger Edgar,
I wanna see Price Alex (rrrrrrrr! :-* :-* :-*)
He's my fav and i think the most fun!!!!!!

I also want to see prince Alex even tough I think Edgar is cuter
(It's the hair)...  :-*
However, he can't take part in the contest for Rosella since he's her brother, and he's already taken. ::)

Edgar is sweet, but he reminds me too much of a girl - and that's something i don't think a guy should do! :-[

I guess that's my problem, then. I hate too much masculinity. But back on topics here:

I have to say that the most ironic thing about all this is that Edgar's name means "noble spear" and Connor's name means two things, one of which I'd better not post because it might "encourage" certain responses, but the other meaning, in its simplest terms, means "wise" or "counsel." I think we've either got names or demeanors mixed up here.


Akril

Those of you who say that Edgar is femine or boyish obviously forgot how he looked at the end of KQ4, very well built and muscular.  I think its just the art style of KQ7 that didn't help Edgar out.

I think some said the Edgar was very superficial about falling in love with Rosella on the spot.  Who knows, maybe they are soul mates, destiny certainly has intertwined their paths, or should I say the 3 Fates have......hehe...........

Actually If ind Rosella going for Connor because he saved the kingdom much more shallow.  She's never even met the guy.....well until the KQ9 writing staff came along......

Oh, Peasent girl! how can you say that about poor Edgar, (especially since you're named after the girl he's in love with)?
I think Rick is absolutly right, Edgar is only girlish in KQ7 because KQ7 is a kinda girlish game (you have to admit it... ).
So there.
And to think ANYONE can actually like Connor's accent! really! what is this world comming to? It was scratching my nerves all game long!!!

And Rick - Edgar falling in love with Rosella isn't more superficial than Alex falling in love with Cassima or Graham with Valanice - maybe that's just the way they do it there  ;D
Also, as I mentioned before, often in fairytales the hero gets to marry the princess regardless of love (but they usually fall in love at first sight anyway)  :D

Did I just hear another hint about the SECRET KQ9 plot?
Rosella and Connor? TELL ME YOU DIDN'T!!!  :o :o :o

Sorry Storm.........I was refering to the fact that Rosella came back to Daventy to meet the land's savior in Issue #1 of the Four Winds.

You had me worried there for a bit  ;)

:) (breathes a sigh of relief) :)
Thank you! If the plot were to go that way, I'd rather just not know...  8)

Love at first sight seems to be a definite factor in the king's quest series. Graham fell in love with Valanice when he first saw her in the mirror, Alexander with Cassima when they met at Mordack's castle, and Edgar with Rosella. Connor and Rosella have no romance between them, she meets him for the first time in the Four Winds article, I think they'd make better friends than lovers. They're too different for a romance to work. Besides, I think Connor would make a better partner for Sarah.

Yes, I'd say that Edgar definitely looks feminine in kq7. But that's just the style of the game. In anime, a lot of boys look feminine enough to be mistaken for girls. This game's not really anime, more of a Disney-type cartoon. I prefer boys who look like boys, but a bit of feminine grace is also attractive.

thank you for remind me storm i need to fix something about the final art on edgar to send to rich so they can post it here if they want to

and yeah edgar is sooo not gonna look either cartonish, or like the wuss people think he is, he looks like a young mature man in this game, really I know you all are gonna love it. His hair is not that long but yet is somehow, and i wont share more details about it ;)
Cesar is gonna kill me :)

AAHHHHH

Edgar is gonna be given a more serious role I guess, to all edgar lovers! be happy :)

YAY  ;D
*runs and hide*


shhhh, dont tell cesar  I said it :P

and about connor... well I think his original version is sexy (the design I did) ;) oh mamaa  ::)

now the adapt to the game I hope they keep that sexy look :)

Yeah, hope those modellers can keep up with your sexy designs ;)

hhahaha honey I wasnt talking about 3d modelers yet :)
BUT HELL YEAH, you had better keep it like that, or we have some serious coming for it ;)

Actually Say, I think Cesar said it before himself, so you can come out of hiding...  :D

When will we get to see those sexy designs?  ::)

About the Connor vs. Edgar issue -
Should we continue with the joust or take the peaceful solution of Polyandry? voice your opinion!  ;D

JOUST!!! JOUST!!! JOUST!!!

 ;D

Go ahead an joust!  I'm still betting on Edgar  ;)

My bets are on Edgar, he's the cutest and the sweetest.

can I bet on both?  ::)

I'll bet on Conner ;) Always gotta have someone cheering on the underdog. Or else who would you guys be betting with? :D

Its not the size of the lance its how you use it :P

Acutally I couldnt choose either. I'd pick conner for the pure fact that noone else picked him. I mean, cant blame the guy for being chosen for the worst KQ game ever made. hehe

HAHAHAHAAH!!!
cant belive that hahahaha, does anyone around here knows how to post pics in here?
I might do a little doodle and post it here if i can!  ;D

Well, yeesh! Who has the name that means lance? (Or spear, it doesn't really matter). I'd rather see a transcript of a riddle contest, personally. But then again, I don't see the point of all this violence anyway.

Akril

whats the big deal anyways?

I don't care WHO has a bigger lance!!!! >:(

I'm still on Alexander's side!!...if ONLY he wern't already married!!!! :'(

Alex is my fave guy too...

Anyways, I think it'd be funny to let him in on this little brawl too...now THAT could get interesting....

HMmmmmmmmm......................Prince Alex!!!!!!! ::)




 :-* :-* :-*
But then, I'm but a Peasant girl...and have no hope with a royal prince! :'(

I think the fact that he's taken should bother you more than class differences...  :D
That doesn't seem to bother anyone there - the prince from beast's island takes a servant girl for his wife, and no one there even blinks!!!  :o

Maybe Alex can be the referee in the brawl/joust/battle or whatever...

Yeah...your'e right, but I was only kidding!

At least...I can imagine myself as CASSIMA(the b***h!).


Only kidding!!!! ;D

I like Alex too. But my intended imaginary husband is the moon prince....long story.

Another point to consider is that Connor had a whole game to himself, while Edgar was only a "supporting actor". It's time he also get to play the lead!!  ;D

I intend to try and draw a sketch of the joust (as soon as I can draw a horse properly. Right now it looks more like a dog), so watch out everybody  :o :o :o
Should I put Alex in as the ref? Nah, I wouldn't do that to him  :D

Good point. I thought so too...in fact, I did a tad more than think...hintsie hintsie...

As for horses...I don't know how Connor's steed is going to look alongside the only horse Edgar's ridden (and pretty darn well, I'd say, considering it was flying through the air). I mean, how much better can you get than Necromancer?


Akril

Oh...good Akril...I thought we'd lost you!

What's wrong with this place latelly...it's sooo MT!

The only thing in MoE that resembles a horse is that unicorn, so I figured Connor will have to ride that. :-/
I was kinda hoping Say will take it on herself to draw a picture, but she seems to have vanished... Anybody else up for it?  ;D

(http://members.aol.com/hisentco/Private/Images/joust.gif)

Go Connor! You weak lucky bastered! errr.. I meant... Strong Talented Captain of the Royal Guard  :P
well I didn't read all of the posts... my connection is so slow on this forum! So any way Connor probably won't go with her cause in KQ 8 he loves Sara
hmmm but you can never know, its medieval  ;D

Tell me once and for all - WHERE IN MOE DOES IT SAY THAT CONNOR LOVES SARAH????

hmm not so hard to guess that by seeing the intro where they seem like they are in love.

but then again I played that game 3 years ago and lost my CD :( and today you can't get the game for free from anywhere... you can't even download the demo cuz all sites deleted that old game, hmm maybe you can find some reviews

count me out  ;D

I'm the alexander-hater, you just don't want to know how long I spent with that idiot in Manannan's lab or on the cliffs of logic  >:(

How can you hate him because of THAT? after all, he's the one who actually had to climb the cliffs and die whenever YOU failed with that or with the spells  ;D

Anyway, I'm glad to say you're in the minority. Everybody likes Alex, especially the girls  :D :-*

My most-hated is obviously Connor (if only for that irritating accent)!!

Now that's odd, Storm. I thought you didn't like Edgar. And of all the places to have an Orwellian "Three Minute Hate"...yeesh. I did not need to hear that. I just recently saw the "grade" that they gave KQ7 on Just Adventure, which made me relieved that I didn't have the power to mentally shatter my monitor.

And it's not that I hate Alexander, it's just that...well...KQ3 was great, but him and KQ6 never really "got me." I'll skip the rant this time. I don't mind people talking freely about what they like, it's the "I hate this" that really rubs me the wrong way.


Akril

What dazzles me is not that people hate Connor or/and Edgar, but, did you notice Rosella is n third place??? almost up there with Edgar??

I mean, I know they love each other but get them away in the poll!!!! ;)

STORM YOUR AMAZING GIRL FRIEND! hahahahaha
i cant believe you actually put that up there !! hahahaha
your hilarious!! way to go!!!


hahaha, but as I've said before, i dont hate either of them really cant hate them ;) personal reasons  ;D

btw, I see why people can hate Connor you know? so out of kq story somehow, but Edgar? why anyone on earth would hate Edgar you know??
Hes not a bad guy at all

Yeah, poor little Edgar...  :D
Akril, I don't know what made you think I don't like him *making an innocent face* ::).  
He's actually one of my favourites, and all that stuff I said at the begining of this topic - that was just for stirring contraversy aroud. It worked though - got me 8 pages here and counting!   8)

OK, so I don't "HATE" Connor in that way. Safice it to say that I really dislike him. When I say "hate" I mean it the same way I say "I hate eggplant" without holding much animosity againt the vegetable itself (Good analogy for Connor!).

Maybe people don't like Rosella because she's so reckless, jumping into magic ponds, and stuff (Or maybe they're just so sexist they can't stand a strong, self-assured female protagonist that doesn't look like Lara Croft)  ???

QuoteMaybe people don't like Rosella because she's so reckless, jumping into magic ponds, and stuff (Or maybe they're just so sexist they can't stand a strong, self-assured female protagonist that doesn't look like Lara Croft)  ???

that's what i like about Rosella, she's unpredictable and funny in comparison to that dull and ugly Alex

Dull and ugly?? Alex?? Are we talking about the same guy????

QuoteDull and ugly?? Alex?? Are we talking about the same guy????

maybe in the israeli version, alex is replaced by a handsome blonde stuntguy :P

Maybe!! but then I have no way of knowing for sure since the version I played was bought in the USA...  :P

HAHAHAHAHA "replaced by a handsome blonde stuntguy"

good one  ;D

and hey ! no picking on lara! I like tomb raider a lot, not for her 3d huge boobies but actually because the games have been really nice to play!

go lara go!  ;D

I wasn't picking on her!!
Strange that you're defending her instead of Alex.
Obviously not a KQ fan!!!  ;)

maybe Lara should replace cassima, and alex be her slave  :D

I like Markonikov ideas! hahahahhaha  ;D

maybe we should all give them uzi's and send them to a lost land!  ;)

Say -
No offense, but I'm glad you're just doing the artwork and not writing the story...
(Maybe you should join our multiwriter fanfic?)

I see that the situation on the pole improved and now Connor leading by much on all other candidates!!!  ;D I swear I didn't do it.
Maybe someone did that just to please me?  ;)


"This is supposed to be a HAPPY occassion!
 let's not bicker and argue about who killed who..."

Takarifreak -
Sorry for not answering your question from 2 pages ago
I didn't notice it  :-[

I used that quote because my former one seemed a bit too optimistic for me, and I saw the "holy grail" movie that same weekend, and then you mentioned it on the forums... so it all added up to the current quote  ;D