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Title: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on May 30, 2006, 01:09:44 PM
I was in math today, and had this great idea. My grade was in New Hampshire, and I was one of fifteen boys who stayed behind, and so I had to go to class... But, besides that, I was doing tons of brain teasers in Math today, and just thought I'd make a thread on it... And so start posting some brain teasers! Here's one: How many suffers does it take to get Neil to reveal a spoiler? XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Deloria on May 30, 2006, 01:15:45 PM
Infinity. Neil never reveals spoilers except when threatened :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Yonkey on May 30, 2006, 01:23:41 PM
I never reveal spoilers, period. :P  But Deloria's correct and here's the proof:

Let x = # suffers
Let y = # spoilers

In general, x >= y.  But t(x) < t(y), where t(z) is the time when either a suffer or a spoiler is said.  It should be pointed out that: t(y) - t(x) = x

So, the time between a spoiler is said and a suffer is:
x = { :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: ... }

Since that time is expressed as an infinite series, the number of suffers is infinite. :suffer:

XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Deloria on May 30, 2006, 01:42:13 PM
Brain teaser: Why did I alienate Pacsanta? :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on May 30, 2006, 02:22:57 PM
I don't know. Why did you?

You should write the MCAS Neil! That sounded like a problem you'd see on it! I swear! (You must be good at math, because I couldn't understand a single equation in there!) Congradulations, Neil, you stumped me! Again!
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Yonkey on May 30, 2006, 02:28:56 PM
LOL!  Actually, part of it doesn't make any sense, but since Deloria already quoted it, it's too late for me to fix it. :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Deloria on May 30, 2006, 03:00:09 PM
Well, I unquoted it, so by all means fix it :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 03:41:05 PM
QuoteA medium-size jet has a wingspan of 120 feet. An albatross is a bird with a wingspan of about 12 feet. At what altitude would each object have to fly in order to cast shadows of equal size?

:P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on May 30, 2006, 04:49:21 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 03:41:05 PM
QuoteA medium-size jet has a wingspan of 120 feet. An albatross is a bird with a wingspan of about 12 feet. At what altitude would each object have to fly in order to cast shadows of equal size?

:P

Got me! Brain teasers have never been my strong spot!

I had one earlier... There is a boat which must cross a river. The boat is so small it can only hold one adult, one child, or two children. You can't have an adult and a child in one boat. How many trips would it take to get everyone across? There are 8 adults and 2 children.

I found out from the teacher that it's [spoiler] 33 [/spoiler]

You figure it out!
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Yonkey on May 30, 2006, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Deloria on May 30, 2006, 03:00:09 PM
Well, I unquoted it, so by all means fix it :P
Fixed. XD

Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 03:41:05 PM
QuoteA medium-size jet has a wingspan of 120 feet. An albatross is a bird with a wingspan of about 12 feet. At what altitude would each object have to fly in order to cast shadows of equal size?

:P
Wouldn't that depend on the time of day? ;P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Rosella on May 30, 2006, 07:47:47 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 03:41:05 PM
QuoteA medium-size jet has a wingspan of 120 feet. An albatross is a bird with a wingspan of about 12 feet. At what altitude would each object have to fly in order to cast shadows of equal size?

:P

I'm going to go with the obvious (And probably wrong answer,) the jet is 10 feet above the ground and the bird is 100. :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 08:28:53 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on May 30, 2006, 05:21:44 PM
Wouldn't that depend on the time of day? ;P

Quote from: Rosella on May 30, 2006, 07:47:47 PM
I'm going to go with the obvious (And probably wrong answer,) the jet is 10 feet above the ground and the bird is 100. :P

To both: Not if the answer in this book is correct. XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Jafar on May 31, 2006, 02:47:01 AM
QuoteGot me! Brain teasers have never been my strong spot!
Hey, this was YOUR idea! XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 02:55:56 AM
Here's my favorite brain teaser ever. You've probably heard it before:

A man is pushing his car. When he stops at the hotel, he knows he is bankrupt. How?
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on May 31, 2006, 04:56:37 AM
I know it was my idea, but still! People seem to be enjoying it! XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Rosella on May 31, 2006, 05:12:08 AM
I shall refuse to let this thread die because it is fabulous. :P I've never seen yours THS, but I'm intrigued. XD

Has anyone ever heard of 24? The game, not the show. :P Like, you have 4 numbers on a pretty card and you have to add, subtract, multiply or divide to make 24. It's REALLY addictive, and I've gone to two district 24 tournaments. An example might be 8, 3, 3, 9. 8-3 is 5. 5*3 is 15. 15+9 is 24. There are always lots of other ways to solve cards, (like 8+3=11, 11*3=33, 33-9=24,) but it's always really fun. XD

Here's a hard one, 8, 8, 3, 3. :P
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Deloria on May 31, 2006, 06:22:25 AM
No more comments on Pacalien? :P

I think I have it, but it comes out periodically: [spoiler] 8*8=64. 64:3=21.33333 (periodically). 21.3 periodically +3=24.33333(periodically)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 06:45:31 AM
Do the numbers have to be used in sequence, and are only integers allowed in each step? If the answer to both is no, you could say that 8/3 = 2.67, 2.67*3=8, 8*3=24
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Elessar on May 31, 2006, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 02:55:56 AM
Here's my favorite brain teaser ever. You've probably heard it before:

A man is pushing his car. When he stops at the hotel, he knows he is bankrupt. How?
He's playing Monopoly! XD

Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 30, 2006, 03:41:05 PMA medium-size jet has a wingspan of 120 feet. An albatross is a bird with a wingspan of about 12 feet. At what altitude would each object have to fly in order to cast shadows of equal size?

According to my calculations, if the plane was on the ground, the albatross would have to be at an elevation of 1.51^10 meters, or 1/10 of the distance to the sun. In other words, if an object wants to cast a shadow of an object ten times lager than it must be one tenth closer to the light source. Am I right?

Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 06:45:31 AMDo the numbers have to be used in sequence, and are only integers allowed in each step? If the answer to both is no, you could say that 8/3 = 2.67, 2.67*3=8, 8*3=24

That would be right, except you used the numbers: 8, 3, 3, 3. The given numbers were: 8, 8, 3, 3.

Unless Deloria has it right with this:
Quote from: Deloria on May 31, 2006, 06:22:25 AM8*8=64. 64:3=21.33333 (periodically). 21.3 periodically +3=24.33333(periodically)
there is no solution. I've tried every combination. (Unless we can use other operators than the ones listed {+ - × ÷}.)
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Rosella on May 31, 2006, 02:21:25 PM
Like Elessar said, THS used 3 three times. :P

Deloria, you aren't right because it has to be exactly 24.

And yes, there is an answer. ;)
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on May 31, 2006, 05:16:20 PM
The world of math. When you guys start talking like this, it comes out as Spanish in my mind... XD
Quote from: Elessar on May 31, 2006, 10:36:14 AM
Quote from: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 02:55:56 AM
Here's my favorite brain teaser ever. You've probably heard it before:

A man is pushing his car. When he stops at the hotel, he knows he is bankrupt. How?
He's playing Monopoly! XD


MONOPOLY! I LOVE THAT GAME! XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Louisiana Night on May 31, 2006, 09:06:41 PM
Just turn one of the 3s upside down and make a new 8(8+8+8=24). ;P

Seriously... assuming I am allowed to change the order...
8\(3-(8\3))

Did I get it right? ;-D

Quote from: Elessar on May 31, 2006, 10:36:14 AM
According to my calculations, if the plane was on the ground, the albatross would have to be at an elevation of 1.51^10 meters, or 1/10 of the distance to the sun. In other words, if an object wants to cast a shadow of an object ten times lager than it must be one tenth closer to the light source. Am I right?

DING! DING! DING! XD

And as it asked for "altitude" , it's not possible. :P



I'll need to think more about Tribe's...
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Elessar on May 31, 2006, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 31, 2006, 09:06:41 PMI'll need to think more about Tribe's...

The answer seriously IS Monopoly! He's PUSHING his car, and he comes to a HOTEL. He's BROKE because he doesn't have enough money to pay for the rent.
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: TribeHasSpoken on May 31, 2006, 10:06:22 PM
Yes, the answer is that he's playing "Monopoly"
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Louisiana Night on May 31, 2006, 10:13:28 PM
The perfect brain teaser for Haven... it follows its logic. XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Rosella on June 01, 2006, 03:37:27 AM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 31, 2006, 09:06:41 PM
Just turn one of the 3s upside down and make a new 8(8+8+8=24). ;P

Seriously... assuming I am allowed to change the order...
8\(3-(8\3))

Yay! 8/3 is 2 and 2/3. 3-2 and 2/3 is 1/3. 8/(1/3) is 24! :D
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Zelly on June 01, 2006, 06:01:33 AM
That was actually very tricky, but then I wasn't thinking about fractions. :P

*is brain-dead*
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: dark-daventry on June 01, 2006, 11:17:20 AM
Wow... All these brain teasers! I don't know the answer to a single one! XD
Title: Re: The brain teaser thread!
Post by: Zelly on June 01, 2006, 01:39:23 PM
Don't feel bad, I didn't either. :P

But I should have guessed the Monopoly one