Poll
Question:
Will any of main characters(royal family) die in KQ9?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 19
Option 2: No
votes: 10
Option 3: No, except Connor getting flattened.
votes: 20
The Knight:
It appears KQ IX isn't a good game for Connor.
dragonslyr:
No KQ after KQ8 is going to be...
Cesar_Bittar:
I voted
dragonslyr:
Ahhh, about time we got sime inside info from the plot... SO are you going to make the plot a tradegy?
Cesar_Bittar:
I said it before and I'll say it again:
The plot is VERY heavy and deep.
Cesar_Bittar:
like the Return of the King Trailer says:
"There can be no Triumph without Loss
No Victory without Suffering
No Freedom without Sacrifice"
They can also be applied *totally* to King's Quest IX.
The Knight:
So in other words, you have nothing orginal to use to describe KQ IX.
Yonkey:
LOL!
I like that.
dragonslyr:
Humph..
Cesar_Bittar:
watch the upcoming trailers and you'll see that
The Knight:
I won't notice it, because I'll be laughing so hard at your voice-overs Cesar.
Cesar_Bittar:
The REAL ones
Storm:
What voice-over are you talking about, Knight???
WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT
Quote from: Cesar_Bittar on Today at 01:39:56pm
I said it before and I'll say it again:
The plot is VERY heavy and deep.
Read: "Yep, sure as hell we're gonna kill someone"
The Knight:
Quote:The plot is VERY heavy and deep
That explains why it was so hard to carry.
Quote:Read: "Yep, sure as hell we're gonna kill someone"
Of course. A good plot always has someone die.
Storm:
The title of this thread is wrong. It should be "is anyone going to die" like the poll, rather than "who".
On the "who" subject -
Graham is the best candidate for it. He's old, he's had 8 games, it's time he retired
Graham also fits by elimination - Rosella and Valanice are women, and it's not very gentlemanly to kill them. Alex already been through so much, he deserves some happiness. Killing him would be too cruel.
Of course, Cesar could always play on the KQ6 continuity and have him meet death again.
Jeysie:
Quote from: Storm on Today at 05:51:08pm Graham is the best candidate for it. He's old, he's had 8 games, it's time he retired
That's one hell of a way to retire. Poor fellow wouldn't even get to go to the Daventry equivalent of a Florida Senior Resort!
Quote from: Storm on Today at 05:51:08pm Of course, Cesar could always play on the KQ6 continuity and have him [Alex] meet death again.
"I told you it's never as long as you wish. Fortunately for you, I made cookies and tea."
"Cookies?"
"Yeah, after the whole mirror thing, I decided it was time for a new outlook. Be more optimistic, live a little (wink, wink), spice things up."
"I noticed the new decor..."
"Pastels really brighten up the place, don't they? ...one lump or sugar, or two?"
(maybe I need to check into that padded cell after all...)
Peace & Luv, Liz
oldbushie:
Lol!!!!
Yeah, that would be interesting if Death went from "goth" to "pastel"... Would he be adopting the clown costume as well?
I guess you guys know I already said A LOT.
:)
And yet we understand nothing... how surprising :suffer:
Well, hey, a few missteps or bad timing or failure to solve certain puzzles will ALWAYS end in death in any kq game!! ;)
Oh you mean like *permanently*...heehee. :suffer:
GOD am I glad that's back!
I think Cesar responded in this thread because there was someone very important missing from Cesar's life:
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
;D
I believe Cesar's going to kill a royal.
It hasn't been done in previous KQs, and he should be original ;)
I hope this won't end like Hamlet... :o
But if Connor doesn't die, I suppose the person might be Crispin (sad but true). Even though he is a wizard, he is getting very very old and may end up transferring his remaining powers to a student of magic before he dies. Though I did read in one of the KQ books (not neccessarily in flow with the games though) that Crispin (or maybe some other magician, can't remember) turned himself into a tree to become immortal.
Why pick on Crispin? he may not even be in the game.
Besides, we're talking about killing a member of the royal family :-\
Well, he did have his dealings with them... though true, I hope he stays alive for a long time. I would love to see him back in KQIX, as we never really found out what happened to him after KQV.
If it's definitely the royal family / Connor who will die / flatten, I'd prefer Connor, otherwise Graham seems most likely.
Quote from: oldbushie on October 27, 2003, 01:11:27 PMThough I did read in one of the KQ books (not neccessarily in flow with the games though) that Crispin (or maybe some other magician, can't remember) turned himself into a tree to become immortal.
Sorry, the magician fellow was Morowyn, not Crispin.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I think it's implied (esp. by the mention of Connor) that the royal family in this question includes people like Cassima and Edgar. After all, they're closer to being part of the Royal Family than Connor! (IMO) :P
Quote from: KatieHal on October 27, 2003, 02:52:45 PM
I think it's implied (esp. by the mention of Connor) that the royal family in this question includes people like Cassima and Edgar. After all, they're closer to being part of the Royal Family than Connor! (IMO) :P
Where was it implied that Connor is considered "royal"? ???
If you mean on the poll itself, It wasn't started by Cesar, and the important thing is who HE considers royal ::)
Does every post by Cesar and T-knight has to end with a line of ":suffer:"? :P
Use the Mr. Suffer more more sparingly. You're wearing him out :suffer:
If Connor dies, then who will be doing that easter egg love scene with Storm? ??? ;)
Quote from: Yonkey on October 27, 2003, 04:25:46 PM
If Connor dies, then who will be doing that easter egg love scene with Storm? ??? ;)
We can do that BEFORE he dies :suffer:
Love scene? :o
That would be very tough love :suffer:
Quote from: Storm on October 27, 2003, 04:39:44 PM
We can do that BEFORE he dies :suffer:
Ahhhh so YOU'RE the one who kills him! ;D
I should be so lucky :suffer:
She's gonna whip him to death. ;)
I didn't know Storm was into S&M ;)
Nah, it's just been a while since he teased us with an obscure hint :suffer:
I believe it was Dragonslyr. 8)
Quote from: The Knight on October 28, 2003, 02:41:56 PM...divide by the amount of Connor lovers on the forums.
You'll get a "divide by zero" error :suffer:
Ok, you find him, I'll shoot him :suffer:
Quote from: Storm on October 28, 2003, 01:54:30 PM
I believe it was Dragonslyr. 8)
Ahh...see? Cesar didn't post it, so he's not giving away any answers at all about whether or not someone dies! ;) So...someone *might* die...someone *might* not.... :suffer:
I didn't even conciously notice til now that the icon DOES say suffer when used!!! HA!! Yonkey, I love you!!! :-* ;)
From what Cesar said, it's pretty obvious SOMEONE is going to die. :o
The real question is who, and whether he/she will stay dead ;)
Just get an old guy with beard wearing cloak. And you know although people like Crispin so much he only was in 1 kq... :-\
I don't care if he was only in 1 KQ, he was awesome! I say we bring him back at least for a cameo at the end. After all, this is the "last" KQ...
Though... are you sure you posted in the right thread Dragonslyr?
No, this happens once in a while to me, but I don't know how........ :'(
Right!
We don't want them to die!!
They should live happily ever after!!!
(Except for Connor, who should die a horrible agonizing death :suffer:)
HAHahaha! I so bet she sooo would love that :D!
Yes I would ;D
But the plot is already written :(
Besides, if I wrote the plot, I would rather ignore him altogether :P
omg moe did happen, deal with it knight :D
hahaah XD
omg but who said someone was going to die anyways :P
where you ppls gets those ideas!!
It's not our imagination. Cesar said so 8)
Unless it was Cesar's good twin... ;)
hahahahaha, right
Which part?
The one about Cesar or about killing Connor? :P
The part about Cesar's blankie. ;D ;)
"No"
graham has to die..and cedric is all alone..and keeps hooting mourning his death...IMHO graham is gettign old atleast make it a natural cause of death maybe a heart attack
I would rather have Cedrick die than Graham. XD
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 08:48:06 PM
I would rather have Cedrick die than Graham. XD
I concur.
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 08:48:06 PM
I would rather have Cedrick die than Graham. XD
I would rather have Cedrick die regardless of Graham ;P
Quote from: Stones Of Stealth on August 15, 2004, 03:13:21 PM
graham has to die..and cedric is all alone..and keeps hooting mourning his death...IMHO graham is gettign old atleast make it a natural cause of death maybe a heart attack
Nah, we already had that ;)
If he does die, it should be in some heroic manner. Like having a dragon fall on him after he killed it :P
i love cedric....I WOULDNT DO THAT GRAHAM! :suffer: i can never get enough :P hmm....or atleast he should die of unsanitary reasons..like wearing the same coat for..20 some what years :P
Are you sure it wasn't insanitary reasons for agreeing to go on a quest with such an annoying owl? ;P
you could have sed you didnt want the owl :P and ruin the game :P wihtout cedric i wouldnt play jk lol
It followed me(SoS's avatar)! :S
its my baby.. :-* of course lol isnt it b-e-a-u-tiful?
Quote from: Stones Of Stealth on August 16, 2004, 07:50:51 AMhe should die of unsanitary reasons..like wearing the same coat for..20 some what years :P
It wasn't the same outfit he was wearing! it's just that his wardrobe is full of red shirts and cyan pants ;P
Quote from: Storm on August 17, 2004, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: Stones Of Stealth on August 16, 2004, 07:50:51 AMhe should die of unsanitary reasons..like wearing the same coat for..20 some what years :P
It wasn't the same outfit he was wearing! it's just that his wardrobe is full of red shirts and cyan pants ;P
just like arthur? :P :gossip:
Arthur? ???
iehhp, haven't voted yet :o ...votes; 'yes' ;)
I haven't voted yet either... I'm still undecided ::)
what makes you unable to decide? :-\
The fact that I have no idea just how far they'll take the whole "darkness" thing... if you want to go all serious and dark, there's no better way to do it than having someone die. But then, it would be very un-KQ-like if someone does die (really die, not just 'gone to visit the land of the dead' die).
Hence the indecisiveness :-\
yeah but dying isn't that great 'darkness'. I mean it would be darker if someone goes totally evil and so (imho)
Pardon my lateness in replying to this but...
isn't there no part cast for Valanice? Just a thought but maybe if she's dead there wouldn't be a reason for her to speak (except in flashbacks)
Rune
-just say NO to hurricanes
Rune, I take it you've survived the hurricanes...I feel for you guys.
BTW, PART of the answer to your Valanice comment can be found in the chat log where we got to ask the team questions.
Valanice is in the game, though not a playable character like the rest of her family, and we'll find out some stuff about her.
:suffer:
Quoteand we'll find out some stuff about her.
Your the co-writer of the script, and Caeser hid that part from you!? :o :P
Quote from: B'rrr on September 06, 2004, 02:56:15 PM
yeah but dying isn't that great 'darkness'. I mean it would be darker if someone goes totally evil and so (imho)
And how would that someone go about being toally evil? kill someone else, preferably a main character ;)
bahbah, just can't talk to some ppl :D :P
Ah, ok thank you. That makes sense. There's a lot of material here and sometimes (forgive me I have sinned) I don't have exact patience to umm...even read my insurance policy lol Thanx :)
Rune
Quote from: Louisiana Night on September 08, 2004, 08:38:23 AM
Quoteand we'll find out some stuff about her.
Your the co-writer of the script, and Caeser hid that part from you!? :o :P
I don't think I follow what you're saying, LN. *I* know what happens, I'm just not telling you. ;)
I was referring to the "we" , in your sentence. :P
Ohhh. It's that generic "we"... "we" as in the fans, the players, etc.
Hey, I agree with whoever said having someone die in a heroic manner. And alas, I think it's time Graham went... and if he has to go, at least let him go out in a blaze of glory!
Here's my idea... the evil wizard Shadrach sends one of his goons to attack Daventry, probably to lure Alexander into the fray. Graham does battle with the fiend, but before the enemy dies, he makes one last move: he zaps him with a strange spell. Sort of his way of saying "If I'm going down, I'm taking you with me!" But at least Graham made his last stand to defend Daventry.
Maybe Graham "dies" only to come back to life 1000 years later, confused by the new technology? ;)
Think of it as a King's Quest version of "Encino Man". ;-D
How ironic. I had an idea similar to that.
Somehow, the Black Cloak decides to put themselves in suspended animation so they could wreak havoc in the future. Fortunately a young wizard sees this and goes to the Realm of the Dead and makes a deal with Death... to have the Daventry Royal family (plus Cassima, Edgar, and Connor) reborn in the future.
As each one is born, when their age is right, the wizard returns and does a mind meld (just like what Luna did in the Doom Tree Saga in Sailor Moon). At least Alexander doesn't get stolen away this time around, but he learns technology (like he learned magic first time around).
Interesting idea, but not as funny as Encino Man. ;)
King Graham upon seeing an SUV:" What manner of witchcraft is this? And why won't it stop before it hits me? :o"
;D
(sorry; its one of those moments that I can imagine the exact tone of voice/expression he would use when saying it, makes it extra funny!)
I was a member a long while ago cause DanceMagic Dance, and I left and now I am back. Here to stay. My questions are: Does any main characters die in KQ9?
and is there gonna be a KQ10?
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 02:53:01 PM
I was a member a long while ago cause DanceMagic Dance, and I left and now I am back. Here to stay. My questions are: Does any main characters die in KQ9?
and is there gonna be a KQ10?
Haha, I'm sure you can MAKE a few main characters die, if you so wish. ;) What would KQ be without corny death jokes? :P
And welcome back. I'm a newbie, too, although I also stumbled upon this project years ago. ;)
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 02:53:01 PM
I was a member a long while ago cause DanceMagic Dance, and I left and now I am back. Here to stay.
Welcome back! ;D
Is there a reason why you registered with this nickname instead of using your old one: DanceMagicD? ???
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 02:53:01 PM
My questions are: Does any main characters die in KQ9?
and is there gonna be a KQ10?
:suffer:
And I don't believe anyone's making a KQ10 yet. :P
I didn't think I could resurect my DanceMagicD name...what I meant is are any main characters going to be killed off as in plot wise? I really hope that doesnt happen. And so far there's no plans among the team here to develop a KQX? Also, I've heard that this game (which looks to be great!!) has been in developement since 1997..Any truth to that?
Without backing by Vivendi, no( according to the words of Cesar ;P ).
Though there's a partial script for it. :P
EDIT:
MoE wasn't even released by 1997, so I think you can guess. ;)
Welcome back DMD, it's great to see you around again :)
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 05:36:45 PM
I didn't think I could resurect my DanceMagicD name...
Of course, as long as you still remember your password. ;P If you don't, I can merge that account with your current one. :)
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 05:36:45 PM
what I meant is are any main characters going to be killed off as in plot wise?
Again: :suffer: ;P
Quote from: DancingMagicDance on May 11, 2005, 05:36:45 PM
And so far there's no plans among the team here to develop a KQX? Also, I've heard that this game (which looks to be great!!) has been in developement since 1997..Any truth to that?
Like LN said, MoE wasn't even finished in 1997 so it's obviously not true. The project started in October 2000, but development only officially started in January 2002. You can read the letter To The Fans (http://www.tsl-game.com/info/fans/) for more information about the team. :)
OH OH OH! I KNOW IT! :o
Gotta' be Valenice...hence the music "the fall of Valenice."
YEAH, I ACED WORLD HISTORY BABY. Or something.
I think that song is refering to her past...
Quote from: Elessar on May 18, 2005, 09:17:24 AM
I think that song is refering to her past...
Oooo, I hadn't thought of that. So many possibilities... gives me the jibblies.
Why does everyone hate Connor, lol. Just because some people didnt like MOE or never actually finished it to give it a proper judging. ;D
Well I say yes, someone will die. Dont ask why I can feel it in the force.
Quote from: Alias on May 19, 2005, 03:56:41 PM
Why does everyone hate Connor, lol. Just because some people didnt like MOE or never actually finished it to give it a proper judging. ;D
Well I say yes, someone will die. Dont ask why I can feel it in the force.
I don't hate Connor, I just don't care about him. :) With the royal family, you *care* what happens to them.
I don't think anyone'll die. If KQ is to properly have (split infinitive but I don't know how else to put it...:sweating:) all the loose ends tied up, I don't think anyone can die. Then again, maybe the only way to tie up all loose ends would be to blow up everone so they can't have any more adventures that we don't know about. (:suffer:) But I hope not! :P
Quote from: Oldbushie on October 27, 2003, 01:11:27 PM
I hope this won't end like Hamlet... :o
But if Connor doesn't die, I suppose the person might be Crispin (sad but true). Even though he is a wizard, he is getting very very old and may end up transferring his remaining powers to a student of magic before he dies. Though I did read in one of the KQ books (not neccessarily in flow with the games though) that Crispin (or maybe some other magician, can't remember) turned himself into a tree to become immortal.
It was from "The floating castle" and he did it because had he not, he would have died almost immediatly. The tree was a bad side affect. In the book however, the girl Alexander saves, promises she will do her best to turn him into a human again. Anyway back to the question:
Rosella-- How could anyone kill Etheria's future Queen?
Valenice--She is the person least involved (of the royal family) in the games. The only reason I can fathom somebody killing her would be fro spite, and that in itself is very unlikely.
Alexander-- Who could get past all those guard dogs without a genie?
Even if they did have one Alex would just call Shamir.
Graham--Okay everyone knows it, but who wants to admit it? We are all getting older. Graham would be in his mid-fifties to his mid-sixties. Killing older, crippled people who have a country to run is just cruel.
Cassima-- Everyone loves her, especially teh dogs, so how in the world could anyone get to her without a genie, hence the same answer as Alex.
Conner--Since MoE everyone hates him and do not wish to see him in any Kings Quest again. He very well may be without much protection. Therefore he will be easiest to get to.
Who if anyone will die? : Conner.
Maybe King Graham will have to do the last sacrifice to keep the world safe from the bad guys again, because he's now too old...but on the other side, Valanice has the same age (more or less...but you're still charming, mylady ;))
But maybe not...
Do you all remember the intro of KQIV??? And KQVIII Plot??? It just popped out of my head, but...DOESN'T THE ROYAL FAMILY OF DAVENTRY SEEM IMMORTAL FOR THEIR ADVENTURES AND LEARNINGS THRU 'EM?!?!?!?
P.D. I'm from Spain, so...sorry for the bad english that you might find :P
Quote from: Bajamamut on August 17, 2005, 04:36:20 PM
DOESN'T THE ROYAL FAMILY OF DAVENTRY SEEM IMMORTAL FOR THEIR ADVENTURES AND LEARNINGS THRU 'EM?!?!?!?
You can die in the games, you just won't complete them if you do. ;P
Quote from: Deloria on August 14, 2005, 05:56:54 AM
Quote from: Oldbushie on October 27, 2003, 01:11:27 PM
I hope this won't end like Hamlet... :o
But if Connor doesn't die, I suppose the person might be Crispin (sad but true). Even though he is a wizard, he is getting very very old and may end up transferring his remaining powers to a student of magic before he dies. Though I did read in one of the KQ books (not neccessarily in flow with the games though) that Crispin (or maybe some other magician, can't remember) turned himself into a tree to become immortal.
It was from "The floating castle" and he did it because had he not, he would have died almost immediatly. The tree was a bad side affect. In the book however, the girl Alexander saves, promises she will do her best to turn him into a human again. Anyway back to the question:
Rosella-- How could anyone kill Etheria's future Queen?
Valenice--She is the person least involved (of the royal family) in the games. The only reason I can fathom somebody killing her would be fro spite, and that in itself is very unlikely.
Alexander-- Who could get past all those guard dogs without a genie?
Even if they did have one Alex would just call Shamir.
Graham--Okay everyone knows it, but who wants to admit it? We are all getting older. Graham would be in his mid-fifties to his mid-sixties. Killing older, crippled people who have a country to run is just cruel.
Cassima-- Everyone loves her, especially teh dogs, so how in the world could anyone get to her without a genie, hence the same answer as Alex.
Conner--Since MoE everyone hates him and do not wish to see him in any Kings Quest again. He very well may be without much protection. Therefore he will be easiest to get to.
Who if anyone will die? : Conner.
Ahhhhh but most of those theories are based on everyone staying where they should be. How often does THAT happen in KQ games? ;)
i hope none of the royal family dies.
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on August 18, 2005, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: Deloria on August 14, 2005, 05:56:54 AM
Quote from: Oldbushie on October 27, 2003, 01:11:27 PM
I hope this won't end like Hamlet... :o
But if Connor doesn't die, I suppose the person might be Crispin (sad but true). Even though he is a wizard, he is getting very very old and may end up transferring his remaining powers to a student of magic before he dies. Though I did read in one of the KQ books (not neccessarily in flow with the games though) that Crispin (or maybe some other magician, can't remember) turned himself into a tree to become immortal.
It was from "The floating castle" and he did it because had he not, he would have died almost immediatly. The tree was a bad side affect. In the book however, the girl Alexander saves, promises she will do her best to turn him into a human again. Anyway back to the question:
Rosella-- How could anyone kill Etheria's future Queen?
Valenice--She is the person least involved (of the royal family) in the games. The only reason I can fathom somebody killing her would be fro spite, and that in itself is very unlikely.
Alexander-- Who could get past all those guard dogs without a genie?
Even if they did have one Alex would just call Shamir.
Graham--Okay everyone knows it, but who wants to admit it? We are all getting older. Graham would be in his mid-fifties to his mid-sixties. Killing older, crippled people who have a country to run is just cruel.
Cassima-- Everyone loves her, especially teh dogs, so how in the world could anyone get to her without a genie, hence the same answer as Alex.
Conner--Since MoE everyone hates him and do not wish to see him in any Kings Quest again. He very well may be without much protection. Therefore he will be easiest to get to.
Who if anyone will die? : Conner.
Ahhhhh but most of those theories are based on everyone staying where they should be. How often does THAT happen in KQ games? ;)
Very true, excellent point. But even if they did go to some place where they shouldn't be, Alexander and Cassima would still definitely have protection. Rosella would have Edgar to protect her. Graham wouldn't need protection, since he is old, crippled, and has no heir, who would want to kill him? They could just get the throne after he dies, by winning rites or something of the like. The same goes for the still-charming Valenice. As for Conner, where would he get protection, he's supposed to protect, and it's scary when a bodyguard needs protecting.
I don't see why people hate Connor so much. Sure, he wasn't a member of the royal family, but when the time came for him to come to terms with destiny and find the Mask, he boldly accepted this and strode off heroically to do what he had to. He was kind to those he met, brave against the dangers he faced, chivalrous even. Not bad for a lowly peasant, I would think. As he himself said in AGDI's KQ2: "The qualities of Truth, Light and Order can be found in even the most impoverished souls. Nobility is defined through one's actions, not one's lineage."
If he were to die, at least give him a heroic death.
As for the members of the royal family themselves:
Graham: Hmmmmm. He's old and gray, but he can still save the day (yes, the rhyme was intended :P ). He may not be the youngest any longer, but he is still brave enough to face the forces of evil. Still, with his elderly frailty, it is well possible he might meet his match sooner or later.
Valanice: Little to no adventuring experience, other than being locked in a tower indefinitely and her experiences in KQ7. Plus she's a woman, and it's all the more shocking and unexpected if a woman dies.
Alexander: Geez, it's bad enough Graham's without any heirs to the throne of Daventry; now they have to kill off his only son too? Well, he would at least have some manner of defense (IE: Shamir and his own magical abilities). Still, it's doubtful he would die IMO. If anything he'd most likely be the one to avenge his father's (possible) death.
Rosella: Kill off poor little tomboyish princess Rosella? Well, she's MORE than capable of handling herself (plenty of adventuring experience in both KQ4 and KQ7), plus this time around she's got Edgar to protect her. Hell, in the unlikely event of Alexander's demise she might even go out to avenge him. Look out world, here come Rampaging Rosella XD
Still, even IF someone were to die, how would it be handled? Would he/she die under the player's control (in the case of Graham/Alex/Rosella)? Or would another character witness his/her demise?
Of course, with the game being split into three parts there is of course the possibility for a cliffhanger ;)
You make a lot of good points, but there's one thing I have a comment on:
Quote from: Amayirot Akago on August 22, 2005, 01:10:07 AM
Rosella: Kill off poor little tomboyish princess Rosella?
Rosella? Tomboyish? XD Sure, she likes adventuring, but I think she's a very girly, princessy soul. :P
I agree. Maybe you should make some sort of bonus level killed "The Many Deaths Of Connor Who Everything Was "JUST OUT OF MY REACH" Except For Death Of Course!"
Poor Poor Connor. How sad you must feel.... :-\
So there's a happy ending? :P But it's fairly common knowledge that someone dies. :-\
Yes, the ending is happy. 8)
(You're not gonna get a spoiler out of me that easily! :suffer:)
XD
Were my intentions that easy to see? :P
Guys, I think you have to look at this from a story mechnics POV. If you want this to be a good game and a good "story", if you want to create drama to maximum effect, you have to have your deaths have maximum effect too.
Think of Darth Vader -- er, BEFORE they made those prequels. The ONE character who needed to die before the series was finished was Darth Vader. And once he was dead, they could NEVER go back on it. Because not to do so didn't allow the series to end. Likewise, to bring him back to life cheapened the circumstances of his death.
This is why, if someone were to die, it precisely MUST be someone well known to KQ fans, someone who spans more than one game. Killing Crispin off, for instance, would make no sense just as killing off Connor would make no sense. It would simply be a waste. If Conor is not well liked by many fans, that's precisely a reason not to kill him: because you're simply wasting time trying to create drama for a character nobody cares about to begin with. You're wasting time trying to give them a dramatic or heroic death. Better just to forget about them and not address them at all.
What TSL would be better off doing is building UP Conor and Crispin into actual worthwhile characters. While Conor may be lacking in his execution from the last game, in terms of worldbuilding he is a great concept: he can represent the common man and give a sense of daventry "outside the castle" so to speak. Plus, he's a solid mirror to Graham himself since both began as non-royalty and performed heroic deeds to save the same kingdom.
Crisipin would also be a great oppertunity to bring back as a member of the Silver Cloak society.
One way or the other at this point little could be gained from killing the characters since at least at the beginning of the game they are either obscure or not liked by the fanbase.
Likewise, it should probably be noted that likely nobody will die in the first act. Certainly none of the three pricipals of Graham, Rosella and Alexander, since you can play them all in the final chapter. Were it somone like Cassima or Valanice or Edgar, perhaps it would be possible to kill them off by the second chapter, however.
All that said, the take I can sense from this leads me to think that Alexander and Rosella cannot possibly be killed because the KQ series is simply not that dark and will have to have thier turns on the throne for an appropriate period. To contemplate thier death before they grew old would be more in the vein of "Gabriel Knight" or another non-fantasy series that can contemplate such thing because of its genre.
Likewise, Valanice doesn't seem to be a likely choice. She appears to be playing the "Queen of Sorrows" archetype. As such, it would mean she is partially responsible for what happens. For her to die and that be the end of it would not be all that dramatic, unless somone else were to die as well.
Meaning that if Valanice dies, she would not be the only one. Perhaps she could die trying to redeem herself -- but that would fall a bit flat if she was the only one to die. It would feel a bit pointless, a waste of a character. I mean in real life, it would mean something, but narrative is quite different, and redemption has to fit "the crime". If Valanice's actions caused someone death and she supposedly redeemed herself by giving some money away, that would feel unduly easy for her (and thus, absurd). Likewise if her actions caused nobody's death and she died to redeem herself, that would feel unduly harsh (and thus, pointless).
The best candidates would probably be Cassima or Graham, or both. Cassima is a fully developed character as KQ goes, having appeared in two games, and is expendible to the story. Her death creates drama for Alexander. Therefore you get very solid dividends from her dying depending on the manner of death.
Graham is the other choice. Another poster hit it on the head: he's getting older, his time is passing. In a sense of fantasy, his 'time' is approaching. Plus if this is meant to end the series, it bookends it well, though perhaps rather conventionally. The series began with Graham's ascent to the throne, and ends with his death. Killing off Graham would create great, great dividends from a story point of view.
THerefore, I would vote that if anyone died, it would likely be Graham. And probably in a JRR Tolkien "Elves fading into the west" fashion.
Too bad most of his reign was spent looking for his son and mucking around with a three-headed dragon. From our POV it seems he had a lot of good years: but when you think about it, most of his time is spend in the cruddy years between KQII and III. Everything from KQIV-KQXIX all happens in the span of like, 2 years or so. Poor guy.
I figure Graham is in his 50's or 60's, he could live to be 80, or even past that. In fantasy, people live longer than they do in actual medieval history, cause you can use magic for healing and curing diseases. That magic fruit Rosella gave him promises good health and well-being for the rest of his life. Perhaps it could extend his life? Graham's not really that old.
If I'm controling a character, (s)he will die at least 10000 times. But is it not possible that all of the royal family die and is reunited in some happy version of the Land of the Dead. If that wouldn't give closure, nothing would. 8)