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Quote from: The Knight on October 27, 2003, 02:45:04 PM
So when can I apply for beta-testing? ;D
You can apply when we're ready. :suffer:
Ooooh! Beta testing! I'm currently doing two (well one kinda since the other one is almost finished), looking forward to see if I can do another! ;D
Of course, my system is more on the high end, so it'll see how well KQIX runs on a suped up machine. :D I'll also test the game on my Pentum 133 for the heck of it, just to compare (and yes, it has a 16mb video card). The old computer is just so I can play all those old games I love so much.
Really? How high-end is it?
Well, right now I have a Pentium 3 equivalent (4x AGP), with 1.4 GHz and 512mb ram, as well as a 128mb Geforce 4200 Ti and a Soundblaster Live card. It runs Win98se. But I will be getting a much nicer computer this winter, so once the beta testing is up I should have a 2.4/2.6 Ghz Pentium 4 with a 256mb Geforce 5900 card (maybe), Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum, Windows XP, and 8xAGP on the motherboard. The new computer will also be dual bootable with Linux, so I could probably try the Linux version as well if that ever becomes an option.
WOW bushie! That brings new meaning to a "supah-computer"! ;D
Quote from: The Knight on October 27, 2003, 08:02:11 PM
You know you could always send me the current version of KQ IX for me to test. ;D ;D
Hmmmmmm.... :suffer:
:P
What current version? ??? I don't know of any current version! ;D
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
And what did I just tell you about excess .'s in topics. >:(
Quote from: Yonkey on October 27, 2003, 08:17:39 PM
WOW bushie! That brings new meaning to a "supah-computer"! ;D
Heh. Yeah, I've been with my current computer for about two and a half years, and it's starting to die so I'm getting the best new one I can. Plus I think it'll be interesting to be less dependent on Windows with the half-breed I'm making.
My computer still sucks. Please make sure that the specs for KQIX aren't -too- high, especially in the RAM department. I only gots 190mb of RAM :(
lmao, dont complain I got 128 :P
Quote from: MangoMercury on October 30, 2003, 02:34:27 AMI only gots 190mb of RAM :(
I've got the same, and my computer runs 3D games just fine :D
I mean, if it can handle MOE, it should have no problem with KQ9, right? ???
KQ9 should be fine, even though it's 3d I'm guessing it will be less draining on computer resources due to lack of killing.
It should be less draining because of the fixed camera, but wouldn't it be with higher resolution than MOE?
oh god yes, it is.
GOOD!! ;D
Now, can you get them to tell us? :P
By the time we get to beta-test, I'll have a new computer too. After all, I'll have to get a new computer by next year, otherwise I won't be able to play any of the games I intend to acquire!
Yeah, that's part of why I'm upgrading too. Plus I like the idea of having Linux as a backup in case WinXP goes screwy on me... and the idea of a 256mb ram graphics card... ;D
Back on topic -
Will we be able to take part in the beta testing, or will it be for team members only? ???
I think Neil on this case is closer to the latest perspective cesar has about betatesting.
Oh! I wanna beta test it! PLEASE! *begs*
dont worry my friends!, when we have the confirmed information about what exactly direction we are going with the betatesting, trust me, you my beloved forum ppl will be the FIRST one to know :) <3
I'll test the parts with connor and make sure he drops out... ;D
lol! wtf, stfu Knight :P
Maybe you could ask the top15 forum-posters to betà -test. ;D :P (It would be very difficult for me to go below position 15 so... :suffer:)
Anyway, I would never give our spoilers if that is the policy. I'm very good at keeping secrets if needed, and especially in providing information only to those required.
/me is trying to force a premature entrance into the KQ IX beta-testing team. ;D
Couldn't you guess? :suffer:
Heh. I'd beta-test, but I don't even think my computer will run the game, from what I've heard! ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
You don't have to be a top 15 poster to get into the beta-testing. It doesn't have anything to with how much you post or how discreet you are, only with how much you suck up to the team, especially the directors and most especially Cesar ;)
So come on everyone, pucker up your suckers! :P:-*:P:-*:P
After those faces you did of Cesar, I'm amazed you're still here :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
oh, c'mon, I'm not that bad
Am I?
:suffer:
You're worse. ;D
(I'm not doing very well with the sucking-up, am I? :suffer:)
whimsical bad... ;B
Well, you told us to wait until March to ask again...so I'm going to ask for everyone here...Beta Testing? anytime soon? *begs* can't wait!
Cat
...did ...did I heard ...beta-testing?? *puppy eyes* ; )
Very very tentative and most likely going to be within the team, depends on Cesar pretty much. ;)
<sigh> in that case I just have to make sure I'm on the team ; )
well, that's actually no certain guarantee either, sorry
not everyone handles that info anyways, neither not everyone would be entirely qualified for testing the first demos and related, Im really sorry but I dont want anyone coming with hopes high when I know I wont promise anything.
(qualified as we would trust)
Now lets not spread rumours! ;) But I would probably not want to test because it would spoil the fun...it would be unlike the other games where you don't know what happens until you get the REAL thing...
Yeah, that's the major issue with beta testing KQ9. Finding someone that we can truly trust not to show to ANYONE, and someone willing to have the game (or at least parts of it) spoiled for themselves. ::)
That's pretty much why I think most of the testing would be done within the team, and the copy that beta testers get would probably be a trimmed down or non-complete version.
Can I design the test for people to qualify for the beta test to make sure they are trustful enough which will involve hard psycology questions? ;D ;D ;D
Anyway...people are involved in many ways already...Phrase, voiceovers...AND I"M SURE THERES LOT MORE!
Hey, I could beta test... I've got a low-end machine, I'm good at poking into *everything*, and I'm gonna get a large chunk of the game spoiled for me beforehand anyway. ;P
Hee, or maybe not, I'd have to think about it. Beta testing isn't really all that fun, you know. You don't just play the game all the way through. There's going to be a fair amount of bugs, so you're going to get stuck and stymied. And you'll have to play small bits of the game over and over and over again. And you have to keep careful notes of what bugs you found, and the exact steps you used to find a bug. And so on, and so on. From all accounts I've heard, it's pretty tedious work to do it right, and I know what a burnout it can be to replay parts of a game numerous times in a row.
Peace & Luv, Liz
you know, even though this whole beta testing is something so wanted yet so delicate to manipulate for us cuz it would be so kick ass for fans to see what we see but then again we dont want to spoil the real final product for you cuz we do know we are handleing something really nice here for you, I have to admit even if you guys are not beta testers you've helped us so much and I can name 2 girls around here that happen to be my fav girls that have helped us a lot with little things but yet, very thankful for that :P <3
so, see? even if you dont get to be into the staff you can colaborate and earn our heartz forever :P
that's why we did the phrase contest, the flash games and oohh many more things to come :P <3 cuz you want to help and we want you to participate :)
firstly u will look for members of the team to do the beta testing ;D, but then if there are some other specifications they need to have tested, that no one on the team has, then they will look outside the group ;)
Am i right ???
Anywayz while talking about specifications just thought i would mention that im getting a new computer ;D :o
Using beta testers to determine the minimum hardware specs is a part of testing. But as said earlier since the game is "classified" in a sense, we cannot do a public beta where anyone could download it -- there would be a size limit to the number of testers.
The testers (outside the team) will be interviewed and have to be people that we trust, so becoming a beta tester would mean they become part of our team. They would probably have to agree to a contract with terms (the major one being that they cannot send a copy, or reveal any details to anyone outside the team). Besides getting to see the game early, a tester would be expected to report their findings (or lack of findings), and would have specific deadlines to meet as well.
Anyway, I don't want to get into any more specific details about beta testing because we aren't at that stage of development yet, nor are we looking for testers right now. We will let you guys know when we are, since finding a tester is easy, but finding one that qualifies is another story. :)
Soooo, what causes a person to be qualified to be a beta tester? (sorry, posted this for fun, although I'm sure you're wanting the topic to die...or, at least, you feel like we're being annoying fans! lol)
Cat
You have to run the mile in 1 minute, cook a feast for 20 people in 5 minutes, turn the sea to stone, turn fire to ice, and make Death cry. ;)
Quote from: Oldbushie on March 23, 2004, 09:03:12 AM
You have to run the mile in 1 minute, cook a feast for 20 people in 5 minutes, turn the sea to stone, turn fire to ice, and make Death cry. ;)
Let's see...not athletic...can we substitute something for the mile in 1 minute? I'm an awesome cook (ask anyone in my family), but give me 1 hr and 5 min, and the feast will be ready. With God, all things are possible, and Jesus said he could make a mountain move, so I'll just do lots of praying for the sea to turn to stone (oh, wow, look...the sea is stone!), throw water onto fire and freeze it...the fire is now ice! And show Death a mirror...he's crying...here, take my hanky!
Do I qualify?? LOL
Cat
Sorry, not until you do the mile super fast. ;) Though I could possibly adjust the athletic requirement so that you have to throw Connor across the Atlantic instead. ;)
Heave HO!! He's going, going, going...*splash*...oops *cringes*. "Swim, Connor, swim! What's that? You can't swim? Sorry"...Well, I threw him halfway across, and he drowned...close enough, right?
Cat
LOL! XD
Close enough. ;) Now for the final test, harder than all the others: convincing César. ;)
Cesar, I passed all the tests given to me! Come on, you won't let me fail now, will you? Please?
I know ya'll aren't to the stage of Beta Testing yet, so I'll stop begging. Don't want to annoy anyone ;D
Cat
Quote from: Oldbushie on March 23, 2004, 09:03:12 AM
You have to run the mile in 1 minute, cook a feast for 20 people in 5 minutes, turn the sea to stone, turn fire to ice, and make Death cry. ;)
I can do all that... and throw Connor across the Atlantic as a bonus ;)
I think what she meant was, which skills (other than being very secertive) would make you prefer one beta-tester over another? would, say, studying computer science give you an adventage there? *hint* :P
Well, I know in general that the thing desired most is a wide variety of different systems, though generally restricted to the types of computers the game company is trying to support. Also, some previous beta experience helps, and if you are really good at pixel hunting and playing out extreme combos of items in inventory, stuff like that, then you have good skills. ;) Basically, trying stuff no one would dream of doing regularly is a good way to check for errors. ;)
But again, beta testing for KQ9 is still extremely tentative, and most likely it might just be a test of the interface and stuff without actually revealing plot or new lands.
I know I would try my hardest...not actually sure what's required for beta testing, but like I said, I'll try...just gotta wait patiently.
Cat
Also wondering ;D, would you have debug codes (cheats) that would help beta testers ???
Just wanna know ;D, im sorry for being annoying XD
For some reason, Jason...I don't think so.
Cat
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on March 24, 2004, 06:31:26 AM
For some reason, Jason...I don't think so.
Cat
Why dont you think they will ???
Yes, but they would still have codes :P
Thanks Jeysie for answering that for me. I don't think they'll have debug codes. Atleast, if they do they probably won't let the Beta testers know what they are! You know--I have no idea what a debug code is unless it's just a cheat code! lol
Cat
Debug code is a cheat code ;), except the real use for a cheat code is for beta testers to pass the game easily and get it on the shelves quicker ;B
Thanks Jason for filling me in. BTW....ever since Say spelt your name Jayson, that's how I've been wanting to spell it...even though I know better!
Cat
i was waiting for Say to spell it Gayson ;P :suffer:
you want to be called gayson? :P
Quote from: Say on March 25, 2004, 02:10:26 PM
you want to be called Jason? ;D
Yeah of course i wanna be called Jason ;B
regarding the cheat code, maybe yes and maybe not.
who knows ?
Quote from: ori cohen on March 30, 2004, 02:06:11 AM
regarding the cheat code, maybe yes and maybe not.
who knows ?
You, obviously ;)
If by some small miracle I'll manage to get hired to the programming team, the joy of beta-testing would be lost on me - I would already know how to solve the game then (since I would be the one programming it), and I wouldn't get that excited about playing it ahead of everyone else :-\
Besides, wouldn't you need someone who doesn't know anything about the game to test it? or do you have enough of those on the team?
No Storm, they don't have enough people on the team who don't know anything about the game...They need a few devoted fans who don't know anything (about the game, that is)...hint, hint!
Cat
i wouldnt wanna beta test cos it would ruin the games element of suprise ;D
btw, Ori was joking... :P
there is no way that you get in the team and we would easily grand beta tester qualities anyways ;P
Quote from: Say on April 01, 2004, 08:40:14 AM
btw, Ori was joking... :P
there is no way that you get in the team...
Are you referring to me specifically? 'cause if this is true to everyone, you might want to take off those recruitment ads you have there :P
lol, hey now dont twist my words wtf, I didnt say that to you or in general, I said "it was impossible to get in the team with that idea"
OMG I R GONNA ENTER THE TEAM CODE A PEANUT AND GET TO BETA TEST OMG... NO :P
thats what I meant, we do appreciate hard workers and we reward them with our trust of course but that doesnt happens overnight :)
i dont want to beta test anywayz :P
Quote from: Say on April 01, 2004, 09:30:40 AM
OMG I R GONNA ENTER THE TEAM CODE A PEANUT AND GET TO BETA TEST OMG... NO :P
hmmm... never knew you could code peanuts... I always buy them at the store ; ) ...perhaps I should start coding peanuts... it is way cheaper ; )
Unless you code *for* peanuts, in which case it's cheaper for your company, but sucks for you. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
yeahhh... and for KQ9 it would be even less then peanuts (for free!! ...go KQ9 team!! ; ) ...not that i mind though ; ) but I'm still wondering what the peanuts have to do with it...
I think she was just trying to point out that you need to be a long-standingly useful part of the team (or perhaps just a long-standingly useful community member... it is a good idea to get a healthy amount of "outside perspective", IMHO. The creators of a work can run the risk of "getting too close" to their work and thus missing errors that people not familiar with the work would pick up on, but I digress.) before you'd get to do any beta-testing... you need to show you'd have qualities that would be good for beta-testing, you can't just waltz in off the cyber-street and say "Here I am, where do I start?".
Unless that's not what she meant, in which case, ignore me. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Long-standing? If it has to do with community members, well, I hope I've been around long enough! I mean, I know I've been a member for over a year, but I did have about a nine month disappearance...
Cat
I originally started in July stayed for a month ;D, disappeared and came back in December ;B
hmmm.... I have been a member for 22 years... but I had a 'few' years disappearance, only started again about a month ago ; )
so you had a 21 year and 11 month disappearance ;B
yes... well almost, cuz it wasn't exactly 22 years, bit more... but I don't think those few months would matter... would they? ; )
I've beta tested two games before, but I wouldn't want to beta test KQ9. Then I'd know how to solve the puzzles, and I'd know the story. I don't see why somone would want to beta test, unless they were also coding,modeling,writing, etc.
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 21, 2004, 05:15:20 PMI don't see why somone would want to beta test, unless they were also coding,modeling,writing, etc.
To play the game before everyone else does ;)
And then appear on the forum with a smug, know-it-all grin, and use the suffer :suffer: emoticon whenever anyone asks anything about the game :P
Nah beta testing an adventure game would just ruin the entire experience. Any other genre would be fine but seeing how reliant they are on the story then what would be the point?
Quote from: Louisiana Night on May 21, 2004, 05:15:20 PM
I don't see why somone would want to beta test, unless they were also coding,modeling,writing, etc.
That's sort of true, I'd want to make absolutely sure that everything I make runs well in the game.
e.g. If a particular scene runs crap compared to the others, I can go and re-model and lower the poly count...
But that's something for the future, until then, back to work.
we will have trained mini-cesars to test the game, so there, lol, problem solved.
Yeah! Ever seen Starwars Episode 2? All the clones? That's what we have here.... The Cesar Clone Army.
;D
Good lord, think of the children!! :o
César will steal all their teddy bears!! :o
Quote from: grundy on May 26, 2004, 01:28:31 AM
Yeah! Ever seen Starwars Episode 2? All the clones? That's what we have here.... The Cesar Clone Army.
;D
lmao! that's scary :P
*styarts deleting old useless things on pc to make room for KQ ix* heh hehe ok ok im an addict..i'll beta test it when its out for beta of course..i just deleted 124MB of old games..magine that
I doubt they'll let us test the beta. If they do, make sure you have at least 2GB free.
LOL. Don't worry, if there's a public beta there's no way I'd let it be that huge. ;P
LOL! Just let them try the demo I've been playing HAHAHA!
That was FUN! XD
:lovegoggles:
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 08:41:38 PM
LOL. Don't worry, if there's a public beta there's no way I'd let it be that huge. ;P
So...
Thare IS a chance. ;-D
LMAO! That thing was like MoE on drugs. :suffer:
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 09:01:41 PM
LMAO! That thing was like MoE on drugs. :suffer:
*Grundy goes to have another 'play'!*
:suffer:
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 09:01:41 PM
LMAO! That thing was like MoE on drugs. :suffer:
Suffer? Have you not been reading the posts about MoE? ::)
Quote from: Louisiana Night on August 15, 2004, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 09:01:41 PM
LMAO! That thing was like MoE on drugs. :suffer:
Suffer? Have you not been reading the posts about MoE? ::)
Inside joke... ;)
:suffer:
:suffer:
Ah...
*goes back to trying to download 3Dmax(trial)*
Hahaha, ok it was more like Doom with nice graphics. XB
Basically that demo was using Torque's default engine and a bit of KQ9's scenery. ::)
Quote from: Yonkey on August 15, 2004, 09:07:01 PM
Hahaha, ok it was more like Doom with nice graphics. XB
Basically that demo was using Torque's default engine and a bit of KQ9's scenery. ::)
sounds liek wolfenstein lol
i htoguht there was no realt time fighting?
There wont be any fighting in the game,it's just that Neil has been too lazy to take out the combat element from the standard torque engine. lol...
So you walk around as a certain KQ9 character, shooting explosive misiles at other KQ9 characters! :D
XD
LMAO
Hahah, that thing running around is so not a KQ9 character. You should be allowed to shoot it, just to put it out of its misery. ;P
I was shooting it! lol!
But it wouldn't die! I think it was playing in 'god mode'. lol ;B
Hey I'd love to Beta-Test this :D
Ive beta tested a lot of games in teh past and write up pretty spiffy bug reports ;)
~Dark age of Camelot orignal + 2 expansions.
~I did Mods for Quake 3
~And the Halo CE
My CPU is a 2.4 Ghz, plenty of HD space, 512 DDR Ram, 256 Video Card, and 1280x1024 resolution!
Lemme know when you start and if i'm a consideration :D
oh and i have Cable internet, and the card is ATI
My System:
2.4 Ghz P4
512 mb Crucial DDR Ram
9200 ATI AGP (Advanced Graphics Port) 8x maximum speed being used
98SE and XP PRO. w/ Latest Direct X and WMP 9
(Dual-boot with Fat32 in 98SE and NTFS in XPPRO)
Mozilla Firefox (bah to IE)
Sound Blaster Audigy with 4.1 Surround Sound
etc.
i think the team testing is called alpha testing? as in alpha before beta? maybe?
i'd be happy to beta test. I think it'd be fun.
Before the cease and desist letter, what plans did POS have vis-a-vis bug reporting once the first part was released, and would there have been the possibility of patches to fix serious bugs?
I'm sure it would have been something like that.
I suppose the bigger question is what kind of QA would have been carried out before the game's release.
I was thinking (a novel idea, isn't it? :P), VU got a playable demo how about making one available for the fans aswell? Pretty please?
:suffer:
XD
It has already been stated that there will not be a demo. ;)
but there IS going to be beta-testing(or maybe we already ARE beta-testing ;) :suffer: XD ). Sign up for the fanlisting today, and see if you win the chance to beta-test the game. :D
Note: This only applies to fans who have been active within the TSL community(so if you want to beta-test... you better get busy ;-D ).
Does this mean that fans like myself that are on the forums a lot are eligible? I am now a devoted knight, and will soon be at the next rank. Will registered members who come on almost everyday, be eligible to beta-test? (I know I repeated myself, I do that a lot!) :suffer:
It means you're eligible for the chance of beta-testing. :P
QuoteTo have a profile in KQIX Fannatic, you first must be a registered and active member of the Forum. Fannatics are chosen based on both longevitiy and forum activity. An inactive member that has been here for years, or a new member who makes 500 posts and disappears will not qualify as for Fannatic. KQIX Fannatics are not chosen through applications, they are hand-picked by the KQIX Web Team, based on their presence in the Forum.
Fannatics=beta-testers
You must sign up for the fanlist to be eligible for the chance to become one, which you did(now it's up to the powers that be ;) ).
Quote from: Shewofdaventry on April 03, 2006, 12:15:11 PM
Soooo does this mean that the game is almost done???? ;D
It's closer to being finished than it was yesterday. XD
Quote from: Louisiana Night on April 03, 2006, 01:04:46 PM
It means you're eligible for the chance of beta-testing. :P
QuoteTo have a profile in KQIX Fannatic, you first must be a registered and active member of the Forum. Fannatics are chosen based on both longevitiy and forum activity. An inactive member that has been here for years, or a new member who makes 500 posts and disappears will not qualify as for Fannatic. KQIX Fannatics are not chosen through applications, they are hand-picked by the KQIX Web Team, based on their presence in the Forum.
Fannatics=beta-testers
You must sign up for the fanlist to be eligible for the chance to become one, which you did(now it's up to the powers that be ;) ).
Quote from: Shewofdaventry on April 03, 2006, 12:15:11 PM
Soooo does this mean that the game is almost done???? ;D
It's closer to being finished than it was yesterday. XD
Were you addressing me? Did you mean that I signed up to be a fannatic? (I remember, but I'm wondering if I'm the only one who knows...) I'll wait as long as I have to for this game! (And if I'm a beta-tester, then I'll know what lies beyond our own world... I'm just kidding! It's unlikely I'd get chosen anyway, so...)
Hey, LN or anyone else on the team --- are you going to tell us when beta-testing will begin or just more :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
;D
Quote from: dark-daventry on April 04, 2006, 12:54:39 PM
Were you addressing me? Did you mean that I signed up to be a fannatic? (I remember, but I'm wondering if I'm the only one who knows...) I'll wait as long as I have to for this game! (And if I'm a beta-tester, then I'll know what lies beyond our own world... I'm just kidding! It's unlikely I'd get chosen anyway, so...)
Yes, I was mainly referring to you in that post. Your name is on the fanlist, everyone that looks at it knows. :P
Yay! I just figured out where the list was, and saw my name! That means I'm eligable! (Now let's just see if the Powers that Be actually like my online status! Unlikely, but who knows... And if I am a beta tester, then you can expect to see even more suffers from me in the future!) :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: Let's all suffer in unison, shall we? All hail his majesty, the Suffer Smiley!
*jons in on the suffering* :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
* Wonders when all the suffering will end * LOL
:stop: ;)
It'll end when people quit asking for spoilers... so, in other words, never! :suffer:
Well.... If you fine people are looking for someone to beta test your game to see how it runs on a state of the art Nvidia Geforce eVGA 7900GT I happen to be your man and would love to lend you people the services of my computer (Prays not many people have had a chance to pick up a 7900gt in the last month). I would be more than happy to do whatever i need to do to meet the beta-tester requirements. Sorry if this was the wrong place to post this, i just saw a few posts above this one talking about beta-testing.
You have to be on the fan list to be eligable. But you can always sweet talk your way there! I just sweet talked my way to the 8th Grade House Master at my school to find out who the snitch is on my bus! ;D Having connections pays off... I have a contact in Bandai! But enough off-topicness!
yeah back to the constant bugging for a darn release date! :suffer:
or even the beta testing dates, lol
Now, Let's see... Shall I ask for a release or threaten them with a piece of bread? Hard choice... I can't decide... I don't think they'd have dates for beta-testing. I think they just choose people from the TSL fanlist that are active on the forums or something like that. It's similar to be a mod. They ask you, instead of publicly saying they're hiring... I think...
But anyway, we're all going to :suffer: in the end! (Blame Yonkey for that!)
Though I'd semi-ressurect this topic being as we are getting close to the beta test stage and thus, one step closer to release, might the team have any more ideas about the game/download size?
hey if anyone needs help beta testing, I would be glad to help. I know I am new here, but I have been a loyal KQ fan since my first experience with them when I wax playing KQ III and I was asking my babysittter how to spell "window". if anyone needs help, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Ryan
Quote from: dark-daventry on April 06, 2006, 12:42:13 PM
Now, Let's see... Shall I ask for a release or threaten them with a piece of bread? Hard choice... I can't decide... I don't think they'd have dates for beta-testing. I think they just choose people from the TSL fanlist that are active on the forums or something like that. It's similar to be a mod. They ask you, instead of publicly saying they're hiring... I think...
But anyway, we're all going to :suffer: in the end! (Blame Yonkey for that!)
Threaten them with a piece of bread! :P
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on April 09, 2006, 09:36:28 PM
we are getting close to the beta test stage
lol, we are? Who told you that? ???
i think its more a hope that it is getting close than anything ;D
Quote from: Yonkey on April 10, 2006, 06:08:40 AM
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on April 09, 2006, 09:36:28 PM
we are getting close to the beta test stage
lol, we are? Who told you that? ???
I assumed we were, with people mentioning it in the main Silver Lining thread.
Nah. :P They just hope the team's getting close. ;P
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on April 10, 2006, 01:50:28 PM
I assumed we were, with people mentioning it in the main Silver Lining thread.
Sorry, but we're not close to beta testing or even looking for beta testers right now. We'll officially announce it when we are.
Bread it shall be! Bibbity Bobbity Boo! :suffer:
Quote from: tait2001 on April 10, 2006, 01:14:39 AM
hey if anyone needs help beta testing, I would be glad to help. I know I am new here, but I have been a loyal KQ fan since my first experience with them when I wax playing KQ III and I was asking my babysittter how to spell "window". if anyone needs help, please let me know.
Best Regards,
Ryan
You have to be on the fanlist to be eligable to beta-test. And you need to be active on the forums. I think. Am I right, Yonkey? (I better be, because I have a fresh loaf of french bread with your name on it! And Cesar's too! Just give me what I want, and no one has to get hurt! I used tons of steam to make it rock hard for hitting a baseball with!) (But of course you'll never feel it that way! You'll feel the nice, fresh taste!) :suffer:
If you do, then will you pick people, or will they have to apply themselves? I want to be one badly, just so you know!
You're somewhat right. :P You actually don't need to be active to be on the Fan List, and being on the Fan List doesn't guarantee you a spot as a beta tester, it just makes you eligible. 8)
Once we're in need of beta testers, there will be a formal application process. The Fan List is not the Beta Tester List, but being on it will definitely help your chances. ;D
*rereads thread* Yeah, I think what I decided a few years ago still stands. We may pick some people, but they'll still have to apply and pass the screening process. 8)
I think beta testing will be cool, but I don't mind waiting either.
Quote from: Yonkey on April 10, 2006, 04:14:54 PM
You're somewhat right. :P You actually don't need to be active to be on the Fan List, and being on the Fan List doesn't guarantee you a spot as a beta tester, it just makes you eligible. 8)
Once we're in need of beta testers, there will be a formal application process. The Fan List is not the Beta Tester List, but being on it will definitely help your chances. ;D
Does being a fannatic guarantee you a spot? Or a groupieh? :P
Sorry, no. :P The only thing that will guarantee you a spot is to fully pass the application process.
Which involves...?
I'll let everyone know once we're looking for beta testers. 8)
In the mean time: :suffer:
*reminds herself to watch out for suffer and wonders why she wasn't expecting that, for once* :P
Tsk tsk tsk, Deloria! It figures he would do that! (He is Yonkey, afterall!)
You, too, can :suffer: Yonkey!
Being a beta-tester has some advantages in that you get to see it before the public! Do you need any past experience beta-testing? I've never tested a game before! Does that hurt my chances? But I bet I know Yonkey's answer to that! :suffer:!
You answered your own question: :suffer:
As I'm a member of the team, may I please have a *real* answer? :P
(I've only ever beta-tested one game, a *dead* version of KQ3 that's several years old, there was a big bug that prevented one from getting any further so I kinda had to break it off :P)
I believe I already answered this...
Quote from: Yonkey on April 11, 2006, 06:39:03 AM
I'll let everyone know once we're looking for beta testers. 8)
In the mean time: :suffer:
At first I was going to post this in our private forums, but I thought that fan input might be valuable. I'm wondering exactly how we're going to go about bug reporting, both in the beta testing phase and even after release. Are we going to go along the route of automatically-generated error reports (in which case we'd probably have to include some kind of statement in the End-User License Agreement which would give us consent from the players to do this, or at least have the system prompt the player to send the bug report and allow them to read its contents), or would it be a forum/email-based system?
I'm pretty sure it won't be automatic reporting, since the game doesn't have that feature. :P Reporting will probably be via e-mails, MSN and possibly private forum, depending on the number of testers.
I don't know how this whole hype about beta testing got started in the first place, we haven't really announced anything so far so nothing is official just yet. Truth is, as the PR director and lead of this project, I can guarantee you that once we open vacants to betatesting, OBVIOUSLY, our close fans and friends shall be the very first to know.
We are NOT going to look for random outsiders to beta test, so for those guests who have posted interest in such, I'm sorry but we won't take the chance for the demos get released without our consent, so therefore we want no troubles with VU to begin with. We will release it once we get the go, and we will select testers once Cesar believes it's completed enough for such. In the meantime, do follow the nice and kind advises of Daniel AND Neil :P. Being someone known in the community and obviously becoming someone that not only supports but that we could trust is a huge plus. Take a look at what happened with Koko, she even lead one of the biggest petition request in the adventure world and not only the fans helped us move along things with VU but ALSO got her a special position in our team which obviously gets her special treatment with us due to an amazing work done and unconditional support.
Phoenix Online Studios thrive on having the community participating because WE are the community, even though we can't breath and live TSL 24/7 we do as much as we can and we treasure it as much as it's humanly possible :)
Thanks for the support, yet again. Good stuff are coming our way, specially for May ;)
You mean, "your" way, don't you! Not "our way" as it suggests you are getting some surprises! And that indicates that the big update is next month!
QuoteBeing someone known in the community and obviously becoming someone that not only supports but that we could trust is a huge plus.
Do I qualify in this respect? (If this is not a good place to answer it, then just PM me the answer if you want!)
I support you nowhere near 100%, but instead, far over that. somewhere near a thousand or so! You've done what I've always wanted to do, but never had the resources or the courage! You stood up to VUG, and did the impossible! For that, I admire your devotion to the project so much more now! I'm happy that there is still a fanbase out there for the KQ universe! You all proved that fans can do so much more than the common misconception! Fans are who
really hold the power! The fans determine the future of something. They decide how much gets bought (or in this case, downloaded!), they decide how far the series spans, and so much more! The reason KQIX does not exist is because the fans decided not to buy MoE because it looked (and was) bad! But either way, would you rather buy the game, never use it, and then have another one coming, that could improve! (But if that were to happen, POS would never have existed! One decision truly can change the course of history, unanimous or not!) POS is a group of fans themselves, who thought it neccesary that KQ be revived, and they have created what VUG should have done in the first place! But the fans are who know the story better than any producer could ever hope! They know if a game truly is or isn't bad! And just from looking at the screenshots and the trailer, I know in my heart that POS will have a massively downloaded game! (an MDG! The first of it's kind! XD!) Whether you're a beta-tester or not, be happy that you got to participate in a truly moving experience! You may not realize it, but we all play a very important role in this! When POS was shutdown, I noticed that we had banded together. For that, I think the shutdown was a good thing, as we all learned to work together to defeat the boss of the level! We're on level two now, that may face even more challanges, and we all helped them win the battle! We all had a part in making the game, one way or another! With our unanimous support, the team grew stronger and stronger, until they were ready to defeat the big boss! We are the ones who truly have the power, and the only ones who can truly stop the boss!
Sorry about stretching the forum! I just wanted to go on a rant! Delete it if you want, but just know that I like it!
Aww.. I wouldn't delete it :)
About the beta.testing, to be honest it all comes down to when Cesar sits down with us and tell us "Ok guys, bring the testers". AND either way, this is something that won't be run just by me, but by the directors and all, so obviously I can vouch for fans and people that I know from around here, that are known in our community and that we could trust. Because once give we might need fast reply to comments and open communication and whatnot.
I appreciate the hype so far, because it's not official yet everyone is dying to get to know tips in how to become one lol :) And yeah, you'd qualify, as well as many other friends of the community which are yet to be active, like Copycat, Storm... maybe others like Jason, Rosella, James even Daniel, Deloria, Jafar and many others that day after day they are so commited and loving to what the TSL community is :) But, hence I know it might be first a scanning process and therefore a luck pick, it'd be silly for me to jump ahead and say more than what I know about it so far.
POS shall grow to be a company that would connect to the fans in ways that not other companies seem to do so. They'd rather just focus on numbers as well as figures that would give them all the answers, so far TSL has been built with that but provided by a community that has gathered like a family, providing us not just figures to appear featured in big places like any of the magazines we've been to, but also to shape up a strong field of eager fans that love to be part of a process like this as well as would love to support and be there for as much as they can, supporting or participating in any way needed.
And I totally agree, the fan is the one who has the voice :)
Yay! Say agrees! Thank you for not deleting my rant! It means so much to me! The thing about POS is that the pruducers aren't just producers! They're also fans, and are dedicated to their work, and that's why I am so intriqued by what you all have done so far. The smallest group of fans can truly do the impossible. And you aren't anywhere near small, but you get the idea! Family guy was cancelled twice, and revived twice, because the fans didn't want it to die! Futurama is on the verge of new life, as there are plans for new DVD movies, and maybe a fifth season down the road, mainly because the fans are expressing how they feel of the lack of new eps by buying the DVDs. It's similar here! You are all dedicated to the project, and want to see it continue, beyond what the series says!
But my question is this (which is a little far off, but still!): When/if you guys go off to a new project after TSL, will it be an entirely new team donning the same name, with a different staff, or will it stay the same? Like, after Eternities, will the team change for a new game? So hypothetically, you decided to make SQ7, would you have a new team for that, comprised of fans, or would you stay the same?
But either way, you are so dedicated, and it truly inspires me. When you have a dream that you don't want to let go, you keep on fighting through all odds, no matter what they may be, no matter the cost, and you fight far past the end! You keep on fighting even after the battle was lost! With the VU incident, the fans kept on fighting! You did so much for the fans, that they had to repay you, and this incident was that repayment! It brought the fans closer together! I now feel like I know some of the users here personally, as if I've known them for a while! And I have you guys to thank for it!
You have built an entire universe online here! In the Ye Elde Deloria Threade, I can visualize almost everything, because it's so detailed and nice. There are practically no flamers or any of the sort! We all live in an online Utopia here!
To answer, I must say this first. TSL is clearly our first goal, Shadows is something that we simply must deliver. Hopefully the coming games might be somehow scheduled in a different perspective asuming that we'd have much better position to consider financing, otherwise it might continue to be difficult, yet not impossible.
About whatever holds in the future for POS, I can tell you that TSL is only the beggining, we've gathered a strong team of creative individuals and the core team of POS was born in TSL. We will move on to a different project whenever time is due and we're capable of doing so. And yes, we might gather different teams for different games just like in the game industry, each project having specific teams, most likely to be somehow different. And I might speak for the team when we say this shall be our first and last remake, we will aim for original, therefore thriving on a real company standard budget, hopefully.
And about the community, yes. Personally I've been to other communities and the enviroment is completly different. TSL friends are down to earth, really nice, friendly and kind, also from ALL ages which pleases us greatly and we've got from KQ fans to any other Sierra fan as well. It's just a great place to be thanks to everyone who makes it so :), You.
Omgsh! My name is on there! XD
*feels all magical* :P
Thanks, Say! It means so much to me that you're complementing me and the other fans!
*Feels magical too*
Thanks, Say!
I'm the PR director and obviously you guys are my reason to be here, even though it's what I love doing, I might say that I do know that at least Cesar and Neil feel just the same about you guys :)
Didn't you guys know that Neil started just the same? :) One fine day, I just kidnapped him from the forum, and even though he had a bumpy road (when he applied he had time but when I hired him he didn't!!) Now everyone just loves Neil, he's been Director and the biggest help in so many departments, he's also part of Coordination. Seriously, Cesar and I couldn't be without him :)
Definitely. There wouldn't be any point in making this game if we didn't have people out there like you guys to actually enjoy it. :) We probably wouldn't even have gotten permission from VU to continue without the support from all our fans.
Quote from: Say on April 14, 2006, 10:19:49 AM
One fine day, I just kidnapped him from the forum, and even though he had a bumpy road (when he applied he had time but when I hired him he didn't!!)
LOL! Yeah, that summer was so screwed up for me. :P When I applied I had a ton of free time, and then literally everything happened at once. :P
Quote from: Say on April 13, 2006, 12:09:43 PM
Being someone known in the community and obviously becoming someone that not only supports but that we could trust is a huge plus. Take a look at what happened with Koko, she even lead one of the biggest petition request in the adventure world and not only the fans helped us move along things with VU but ALSO got her a special position in our team which obviously gets her special treatment with us due to an amazing work done and unconditional support.
Awww...thankees for the kind words. :)
Quote from: Yonkey on April 14, 2006, 11:07:11 AM
Definitely. There wouldn't be any point in making this game if we didn't have people out there like you guys to actually enjoy it. :) We probably wouldn't even have gotten permission from VU to continue without the support from all our fans.
Quote from: Say on April 14, 2006, 10:19:49 AM
One fine day, I just kidnapped him from the forum, and even though he had a bumpy road (when he applied he had time but when I hired him he didn't!!)
LOL! Yeah, that summer was so screwed up for me. :P When I applied I had a ton of free time, and then literally everything happened at once. :P
No game is worth making unless there is a fanbase! And TSL is perfect in every aspect! The only downside to Neil on the team is the :suffer: situation! Seriously, someone has to write him up! XD!
I'm elgible to beta-test!!!! :o ;D
*feels magical* Thanks Say!
I think we'll all get chosen qiuetly, then given a password to get in, and then they'll give us an error message that says, "You fell for it! We're not really giving you an early version of TSL! :suffer: with it!"
No seriously, I think only a few people the team sees fit for the task will get chosen! And you have even better chances by starting to get active on the forums and being nice to the team members that have the power to grant you your deepest desires! Now all we have to do is find the magic lamp that you're hiding somewhere... (Makes up Magic Lamp section where you can vent all of your wishes and see if they come true!)
I would rather play the game when it is finished, than when it is full of bugs
I can understand that. Why play a game and keep getting kicked out of it, right? I'm not sure which I prefer. I would love to help beta test...but I also am not 100% sure that I want the memories (when I'm playing the finished game) where I remember "oh, here is where it kicked me off this way. And here is where it did that strange thing."
I think I wouldn't want to beta test because then I'd be a suspect if the beta version of the game were to leak out onto the internet. In a case like that, is it actually possible to prove that you're innocent?
i want to beta test. but i doubt i will be able to, since i am new here. :(
If you sign up to be on the fan list, I believe you can be considered to beta test. But maybe Neil or someone else can fill you in a bit more about that.
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on April 24, 2006, 02:14:01 AM
I can understand that. Why play a game and keep getting kicked out of it, right? I'm not sure which I prefer. I would love to help beta test...but I also am not 100% sure that I want the memories (when I'm playing the finished game) where I remember "oh, here is where it kicked me off this way. And here is where it did that strange thing."
Actually, I would love to have random memories like that. XD It's like when I scratched this cd terribly and it couldn't get past one line, and I always laugh when I hear it on the radio. :P
I betatested Uru, that was fun. :D
Though it did get a little tiresome solving the same puzzles over and over after each fix and subsequent deletion of characters.
Ideally, the majority of the bugs will be fixed (through internal testing) before the beta testers get them. It's not like we'd be giving you something filled with bugs and expect you to find them all. :P
But yeah, I can see what you guys mean by it spoiling some of the magic. Not to mention, you'd be under our non-disclosure agreement so you wouldn't even be able to share your experiences with anyone outside the team. Still though, the first time you test it will be the first time you play it. It wouldn't really matter if you played it with the Britney Spears version of Rosella or Rosella herself (relax, there is no Rosella Spears ;P).
Quote from: Yonkey on April 24, 2006, 06:30:57 AM
(relax, there is no Rosella Spears ;P).
Thank goodness! XD
I'm so glad. I cannot imagine a Princess acting like Britney (though, Stephanie, it could be argued, does act like her in some ways :P)
I think I used a bad analogy ("bad" on many levels ;P).
I meant the game the beta testers get and the game everyone else gets afterwards won't be much different. It may have less bugs and some finishing touches, but other than that it'll essentially be the same.
Good! But I think I might like the bugged version when I get it, so I can see what it's like before any of you! No offense! But how would you distribute it? Would you have a special site or page for the downloading, like a password type entry, or something else like that?
Yeah, it'll be on a restricted part of the site that only the testers (and team members, obviously) have access to.
And you'll have to enter your secret team-given pin number into the program to play! ;)
Focus people! We're on the beta-test subject, not the off-topicness that I like so much! If we get chosen to beta-test, would we be doing the other two games, or would you find new people for those? And once the game is released, would you be able to share your experiences then?
Even though they are the same game, we might consider each as a different groups (specially for beta testing) because we believe the audience will grow therefore would be unfair to keep the new fans out, so in order to make it fair we might consider it as we move along, but since you ask me now I can provide you as much info as I can.
About the confidentiality of the information and such, you will be provided the specific info at the moment of that happening, for now, I'd rather keep those details just for the moment of that to happen.
I would LOVE to beta-test...but ultimately, I think I can wait. As long as I don't know who is beta-testing. Like Neil said, I wouldn't want the magic to be spoiled. Plus, I wouldn't want to without spoilers from others; I would become the Thought I Hate if I did that! (Neil... :P)
When will beta-testing start, anyways?
When the game's ready. ;P
ACK! Fine. :P
Can't forget the :suffer: :P
But honestly, I think it should be done within a few months. Winter is over and even with the months lost by Vivendi and the fact that VG has to check the game first, it shouldn't take too much longer.
I'd like to offer my services as a Beta Tester.
Credintials
City Of Heros
City Of Villians
Tested
Bugs, jams, tech issues galor.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe to beta-test you'd have to be on the fan list to be either eligable or more eligable. As someone stated earlier (I forget who. Sorry) you might want to talk to yonkey or another highranking official of the game. (Like say for example)
Also, I thought I heard somewhere that the internal beta-testing is either done or being done currently. I think I heard that in chamber. I remember hearing that two people (I will not disclose their forum names) were doing it. Obviously, they are part of the team. Am I misinformed, or is that confidential, or am I right? Thanks
It's not confidential and all we did was beta-test the demo (but we only had two days to do it and the biggest problem was that it was barely runable, ergo we didn't get most of the bugs out) not the game itself.
Okay. Thank you deloria for clearing that up. I wasn't so sure. You are such a lifesaver. And in case you're wondering what flavor, it's cherry. ;D
Yup, Koko and Deloria helped to do some last minute beta testing before the news went public. XD
Currently, the Fannatics help me beta test new Patches a couple days before they get publicly released. 8)
Will there be another patch for RC1?
Of course there will. There's still 30-something bugs in it. :P