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I also have ICQ. But I don't talk to anyone on it :P
oh dear god, my icq its like lost and forgotten somewhere in my pc I so never open it and I so never use it, I use yahoo im, and msn since those are the key to contact team and such, plus on msn I got my client list as well, so its hard for me NOT to use msn since I got like half my life in there :P
I have AIM, but that's it. I'm afraid of MSN. Unless you can convince me...
*convincez bushie to use msn*
omg did it work? :/
Hahah that was a lame attempt, well lets put it this way, if you get msn you can have yonkey, cesar, mango and even me online as well :D
I get online a lot :)
omg plz? :D
.... is it working yet? :P
Ok, ok, if you're on a lot then I guess I'll try it... :D
I won't be able to get it until Sunday though cuz I'm at home and my dad doesn't like stuff installed on his computer without permission. :P
Give me Cesar's address, and I'll consider using MSN as well ;D
omg you want his address and not mine :'(
(whispers: if you add me Ill give ya his XD)
Say, you COULD give me your address if you want me to nag you about the plot on MSN as well ;)
Quote from: Storm on October 31, 2003, 01:26:44 PM
Say, you COULD give me your address if you want me to nag you about the plot on MSN as well ;)
OMG! its on under my nakie angel inferno_669@hotmail.com :P
I have MSN now, the link is under my avatar. ;D I'll try to be on whenever my computer is on.
OMFG! hahahaha you should have emailed and told me about it!!!! :D
hahaha I think I got your request yesterday ! :D
*goes add bushie now*
Bad, bad M$N. All it'll do is make my computer crash, probably, if it runs at all that is. So, no installing here. And nagging doesn't work with me, as gatito numero dos has noticed a lot already. :P
Hm, it hasn't crashed me yet! I have the latest version and plus installed, nothing evil has happened yet.
Try Trillian... works a ton better than the last time I tried it... it's great, you can connect to everything! And it has lots of fun little features, too. And you don't have to "install" it, as in, to the registry.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: copycat on November 04, 2003, 03:11:10 PM
Bad, bad M$N. All it'll do is make my computer crash, probably, if it runs at all that is. So, no installing here. And nagging doesn't work with me, as gatito numero dos has noticed a lot already. :P
ppwwweeeasseeeeeee ! :-\
Yeah! Come on Copycat, we have Mango on our MSN list and she's in the same timezone as you! ;D
voice, webcam, friendly user interface, even stupid online games lol, you should at least try it, in case you dont you can always unistall it anyways, but I bet you would like it :)
OMG OMG OMG STORM GOT MSN! YAY! :)
sooooo... copycat what are you waiting for :P pweease! ::)
[ominous voice]
Cooooopyyycaaaaat..... Jooooiiiinnnnnn uuuuuussss!!!!!!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
[/ominous voice]
hahahahah :D
pweaseee! :)
Quote from: oldbushie on November 04, 2003, 04:17:57 PMHm, it hasn't crashed me yet! I have the latest version and plus installed, nothing evil has happened yet.
You seem to have forgotten I am still running Windows95, so I can't download that
latest version, I'd have to download version 5, I notice on the website.
The reason why I'm not installing M$n, is not because I'm in another timezone, it's because it's a new program, that'll probably delve right into my registry .Since the Windows-configuration has been running smoothly far longer than it should, I am trying to keep it that way as long as possible, which means no installing of programs delving into my registry, except for games.
So, 'pwease' all you want, I am perfectly comfy being the odd one out.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: copycat on November 07, 2003, 02:44:17 PMSince the Windows-configuration has been running smoothly far longer than it should, I am trying to keep it that way as long as possible, which means no installing of programs delving into my registry, except for games.
(pokes gently and mentions Trillian again. :))
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 07, 2003, 03:02:53 PM(pokes gently and mentions Trillian again. :))
/me informs Jeysie he read it the first time, but confesses it's easy to forget.
Quote from: copycat on November 07, 2003, 03:30:16 PM/me informs Jeysie he read it the first time, but confesses it's easy to forget.
/me says she was just checking, since it would solve his main program gripe. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
he clearly doesnt wants to, I'll stop asking anyways, I dont mean to beg or be annoying about it.
So Storm, how come we never see you on MSN? I know you added me but I haven't seen you online yet. :o
Hmmm... should I be happy or sad? j/k, j/k ;)
Quote from: Yonkey on November 10, 2003, 02:45:14 PMSo Storm, how come we never see you on MSN? I know you added me but I haven't seen you online yet. :o
Should I say it?...
Timezone-difference! ;D
I'm on from 6pm to 2am -5 GMT usually... ::) Mebbe I should get on in the mornings more.
Quote from: copycat on November 10, 2003, 04:52:05 PM
Should I say it?... Timezone-difference! ;D
A timezone difference of one week? Nah, I know when you guys are online on the forums, so there's no reason to not be online on MSN too. ;)
Oh yeah T-Knight, I got your request to add too. :)
Quote from: Yonkey on November 10, 2003, 05:11:22 PMNah, I know when you guys are online on the forums, so there's no reason to not be online on MSN too. ;)
Sure there is: forgetting to turn on MSN. :D
OK, MSN officially sucks. I don't think it's possible to connect to the MSN network without IE5.01 or greater installed, for some screwed-up reason. Anyone have any ideas? I had IE5.01 installed for testing purposes, but I uninstalled it, and now I can't remember where I downloaded it from. (The only download I found is ~60MB, and I can't believe I downloaded *that* big a file.)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 11, 2003, 06:18:47 PMI had IE5.01 installed for testing purposes,
:o Shame on you!
Quote from: Jeysie on November 11, 2003, 09:58:27 PM
Although I did some searching and found a web-based MSN client that seems to be working OK for now. Even runs in Opera!
Doesn't all webbased stuff work in Opera (because since it's webbased it doesn't rely as much on
yourpc as much as the
hosting pc)?
Quote from: copycat on November 12, 2003, 02:33:41 PMQuote from: Jeysie on November 11, 2003, 06:18:47 PMI had IE5.01 installed for testing purposes,
:o Shame on you!
I know, I know. (hangs head) I used to not have IE installed at all. But while doing all-CSS layouts is very freeing, it also necessitates having several different browsers laying about for testing CSS quirks. BTW, Netscape sucks, too. Mozilla and Opera, all the way. ;D (And yes, I know, Netscape 6 is based on the same Gecko engine as Mozilla. But the browser itself is sucky. And the less said about NS4.x, the better.)
Quote from: copycat on November 12, 2003, 02:33:41 PMDoesn't all webbased stuff work in Opera (because since it's webbased it doesn't rely as much on yourpc as much as the hosting pc)?
Not necessarily. There's some javascript and DOM stuff that's IE (or Netscape) specific, as well as VBScript and Active X, which is also IE specific. Plus Opera chokes a bit on the some of even the standards DOM stuff. So if a site is anything except pure (X)HTML and CSS, and standards-compliant javascript, there's no guarantee it'll work. (shrug)
Anyhoo. MSN Messenger won't install without IE5.01 installed, and I don't understand at all why Trillian won't connect. Why on earth would you need a specific internet browser to connect with a non-browser program to a IM network? Wankers. ...so, how about that irc.freenode.net #kq9 idea? ;D
Peace & Luv, Liz
OK, so does anyone know why it suddenly won't connect? I keep getting "Failed to connect to MSN (12037)." I tried doing a search, but didn't turn up anything useful. And I'm almost certain the problem cropped up after I uninstalled IE5.01. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
I was getting those too for a few hours last night. I think it was a problem with the network, but for me most of them said "Service is too Busy".
But I guess you do need IE 5.01 since according to the System Requirements for MSN 6.1 for Win98:
QuoteMicrosoft® Internet Explorer version 5.01 or later must be installed on your computer, though it does not need to be your default browser
;D
Whee, the Freenode website is back up! ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 12, 2003, 03:17:26 PMOK, so does anyone know why it suddenly won't connect? I keep getting "Failed to connect to MSN (12037)."
Is M$ blocking Trillian-users again?
No idea. I don't suppose anyone here has Trillian, an MSN account, and IE5.01+ to test?
Peace & Luv, Liz
Heck, I can't even make a connection to the ICQ-network, let alone try to create an MSN-identity. :-\ It keeps connecting and disconnecting using my UIN and password. My contacts were imported OK though. It's not as if I'm using the wrong password, I know, 'cos I've checked.
Okay, 't was the proxy-setting that caused the problem with ICQ, but indeed, I'm having the same problem trying to log in/on to MSN. And nowhere did I read me having to install IE5.01.
Yonkey, system requirements for MSN Messenger do not apply to Trillian, I'm pretty sure. I'd like to know the meaning of this elusive number '12037'.
Well, I found this:
http://www.trillian.cc/forums/showthread.php?s=29c03c9e985304adf69149a47c22ff04&threadid=45724
Which pretty much says to make sure your date is set properly. :o ::)
/me thinks you have to be registered to access a thread at the Trillian-forums because he's getting a 'Forbidden'-page.
EDIT: And oh, my date is set quite right, thanks to a little program called Abouttime. 8)
Hmm. That's odd, CC, I can access the Trillian forums to read them just fine. Not that it's been very helpful.
And yes, I agree, that date advice is pretty much useless. You can't alter the BIOS in a Compaq, and I certainly did not do so in the space between when Trillian was working, and when it stopped working. And I, too, have a program that keeps one's system clock synchronized to an official time and date server.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 15, 2003, 10:53:29 AMHmm. That's odd, CC, I can access the Trillian forums to read them just fine. Not that it's been very helpful.
Hmm, I turn off my cable proxy-setting for HTTP and hey presto, there's the forum! How can using a proxy cause forbidden-pages ???
EDIT: They also say it could be due to proxies, but I thought I turned that off. And, isn't the BIOS clock read by Windows? So, if Windows displays the correct time, your BIOS is OK.
It depends. If it's your own proxy, I don't know. If it's an external proxy provided by your cable company, they could have a set up to block certain web servers. I've heard stranger. Your proxy could also be set up incorrectly. Unfortunately my knowledge on the matter is somewhat limited.
In my case, I don't use a proxy, so that's not it. I do use the ZoneAlarm firewall, but I always had it on when Trillian was working before, and turning it off now doesn't have an effect. I'm still tempted to think it has something to do with IE5.01... uninstalling that was, as near as I recall, the only major difference I made to my computer between MSN with Trillian working, and then suddenly not working. So I still stand by my conclusion that MSN sucks. (Not to mention the fact that MSN doesn't have an official web-based version of Messenger. AIM has an official web-based version of their service, and I believe Yahoo! and ICQ do as well.)
Peace & Luv, Liz
And I stand by my conclusion that m$ sucks.
Besides, M$ site says error 12037 has something to do with SSL date validation stuff, I know SSL stands for Secure Socket Layer but what that has to do with a date...
But, like I said, I removed that (cable-)proxy from Trillian because it was also blocking ICQ. My proxy? I've got NAT, and AFAIK the clock on my ICS-server is also quite correct. Besides, why is it so important for m$n messenger to have an SSL-date?
No, ZoneAlarm can't be a problem, I've got that too, and it isn't blocking anything or it would say so.
Maybe IE5.01 provides an SSL date for m$n messenger to work with? Just a thought.
Maybe, but that doesn't make any sense to me, either. Why does MSN require an SSL date from IE5.01, when other IMs like AIM and whatnot don't need that? I smell something fishy.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 15, 2003, 03:32:41 PMI smell something fishy.
M$
always has fishy tricks up its sleeve. That's why it sucks.
That still won't solve our current problem though. I hava a .net passport (with absolutely no personal information whatsoever, and, more importantly, no hotmail-account), but when I click (in Trillian) on the 'create a new MSN Messenger account (Passport)', Opera starts, asks me to provide my username and password, I do so, and then I get an error 500. Any ideas about the probable cause of that error?
Why are you creating a new Passport if you already have one? Can't you just put your username and password in Trillian's MSN settings and log in?
Heh. That threw me off at first too... I thought it meant creating a new MSN account for Trillian, not a new MSN account for MSN, if that makes sense.
At any rate, you just have to fill in the account, password, and display name options on the left side, CC.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Yonkey on November 16, 2003, 03:07:34 PMWhy are you creating a new Passport if you already have one? Can't you just put your username and password in Trillian's MSN settings and log in?
I don't know what clicking on that option in Trillian does, but since I have to insert a username and password I presumed it was to make an MSN account based on that .net passport. And when I enter the settings from that passport into Trillian, I get that error 12037.
EDIT: Just found a patch to fix problems with MSN protocol. Will try that tomorrow. Now it's time for me to go and floss and brush my teeth. 'Night everyone!
Nope, patching it did not solve the 12037-problem. :'(
Well, it's official. If you guys stick just with MSN, CC and I are going to have to bow out. :(
Peace & Luv, Liz
I have AIM too, yanno. ;)
Just ring me at: hourija
;D
There's a few others you can try if Trillian isn't letting you in. They use the Jabber protocol which basically does the same that Trillian does: merge AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN. I haven't tested any of these myself:
http://www.jabber.org/user/clientlist.php
There's also Easy Message Express that may do the same thing: http://www.easymessage.net
Quote from: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 03:03:33 PMWell, granted, if everyone used AIM as well, that would help me out ( ;) ) but I don't know about CC.
I can do AIM, no problem: Cat13111973 at your service and connected at this moment. I still have Yahoo left and IRC (but I don't know how I should configure that last one). Bushie is added, what's your AIM-nick Jeysie?
Quote from: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 03:47:56 PMIf it wasn't for needing to be able to play my games, I'd switch to Linux or something.
I second that.
Quote from: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 04:48:45 PMWell, unfortunately, that's up to you. I don't know who you want to talk to
Only you, my dear. ;D j/k No, really, just everyone else on this board.
Quote from: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 04:48:45 PMor what you want to talk about. (shrug)
Everything... and nothing, just what comes up at the moment, like I'm doing with bushie now. :D
Quote from: Jeysie on November 20, 2003, 05:36:42 PMHoly glop on a stick! I found an MSN program that connects! Of course, it's a Windows version of a Linux program, which is probably why. ::)
Must be that cursed MSNP9-protocol giving Trillian-users trouble. Strange though the patch won't solve that, very strange... Anyway, don't like running two messenger programs at a time. :-\
Quote from: Jeysie on November 20, 2003, 05:19:24 PM(gives herself moose antlers)
/me is currently not equipped to handle moose antlers so backs off quietly, so as not to startle the suddenly appearing moose
Quote from: copycat on November 21, 2003, 02:39:57 PMMust be that cursed MSNP9-protocol giving Trillian-users trouble. Strange though the patch won't solve that, very strange... Anyway, don't like running two messenger programs at a time. :-\
No, aMSN uses the new protocol as well. IMHO, I think honestly it's simply the fact my version of aMSN is a port of a Linux clone, and therefore it's programmers can't rely on any help from the IE engine.
I may try the Win port of the all-in-one GAIM again... the last time I tried it, it wouldn't even run, but there's a new version out, and I can't remember if I tried it before or after the given update date. :P Of course, it's not as small as Trillian, and puts a few files in the Windows folder. (sigh) You could try GAIM, CC... maybe it'll work for you.
Quote from: copycat on November 21, 2003, 02:39:57 PM/me is currently not equipped to handle moose antlers so backs off quietly, so as not to startle the suddenly appearing moose
Hee, sorry, it's an old in-joke. The bass of my roomie's old quartet had this gag where he'd say in response to some suggestion, "I'm game if you are!", and in response, everyone would hold their hands up to their heads in an imitation of moose/deer antlers. Think about it for a little while... it'll make sense. (Well, to a native English speaker, anyway... hmm.)
Anyhoo. If you decide to bail out on the MSN idea, CC, my IRC idea is still open. And to everyone else, of course... more fun that way. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 21, 2003, 02:55:05 PMNo, aMSN uses the new protocol as well. IMHO, I think honestly it's simply the fact my version of aMSN is a port of a Linux clone, and therefore it's programmers can't rely on any help from the IE engine.
You missed my point, I was trying to make clear maybe Trillian doesn't use that protocol.
Quote from: Jeysie on November 21, 2003, 02:55:05 PMThink about it for a little while... it'll make sense. (Well, to a native English speaker, anyway... hmm.)
While I might not be a native English speaker but I got the in-joke anyway. Didn't need to think about it for a while at all.
Otay, I tried the latest Win port of GAIM, and it seems to work OK... (knock on wood)
You might want to give it a try, CC.
http://gaim.sourceforge.net/
Peace & Luv, Liz
Indeed it seems to work. So, how do I go about adding you to my list and what info do I need to give to you to add me to your list (MSN-wise)?
In GAIM it's Buddies-Add a buddy
Screename is the person's username. In the case of MSN, it's the e-mail address the person registered their MSN account with. Alias is the nick you want to have a person's account show up as on your buddy list. Choose the right group and account, and hit Add.
If you wanted to add me to your list, you'd use jeysie@att.net as the username. If you want us to add you to our lists, you'd have to give us your MSN account e-mail.
BTW, I really need to figure out some way to get Trillian working. GAIM is OK, but rather buggy. :P I'd still prefer the IRC idea. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: copycat on November 26, 2003, 02:14:44 PMTrillian, on the other hand, is currently only configured to auto-logon to ICQ, I just can't figure out where it stored the ICQ logon-data because the AIM/ICQ page now shows the AIM logon-data.
Sorry about the double post, but I had two brain cells bump together and give me a puff of logic, and I wanted to make sure CC read it. ;)
Anyhoo. On the AIM/ICQ page, it says "Note, you may enter your AIM Screen Name *OR* ICQ UIN here to login to each respective service."
So I would guess you would want to put in your AIM name and password, hit "Connect". Then go back, put in your ICQ name and password, hit "Connect". Then I would assume that both names would now be available by clicking on the little arrow on the right side of the name box. In fact, I would click on that first, just to check if your ICQ info is already there. Also, make sure the "Automatically connect to this account on startup" box is checked for both names. Maybe that will work.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 26, 2003, 03:11:55 PMSorry about the double post, but I had two brain cells bump together and give me a puff of logic, and I wanted to make sure CC read it. ;)
You don't think I read
every word of your posts
very carefully? Besides, I even copy & paste quotes from different people on different times in one post, so I think I can handle that from you too. Besides, the 'New'-link orks perfectly and always takes me to first unread (by me)post in the thread. I
never go directly to the last page.
Quote from: Jeysie on November 26, 2003, 03:11:55 PMThen I would assume that both names would now be available by clicking on the little arrow on the right side of the name box.
Even my logic manages to fail me, or is the fact I never noticed that little arrow not connected to that ability? In any case, I now found my ICQ logon-date so since I now know where it's stored, I can safely turn the auto-connect on for AIM as well, since I do not need to worry about erasing my ICQ logon-data. 8)
Quote from: copycat on November 27, 2003, 02:56:25 PMYou don't think I read every word of your posts very carefully? Besides, I even copy & paste quotes from different people on different times in one post, so I think I can handle that from you too. Besides, the 'New'-link orks perfectly and always takes me to first unread (by me)post in the thread. I never go directly to the last page.
Ah, but... you were online when I posted the initial post, so I didn't know if you had already read it or not.
And I'm flattered that you actually pay attention to all the blather I write. Even I barely have that much free time. ;)
Quote from: copycat on November 27, 2003, 02:56:25 PMEven my logic manages to fail me, or is the fact I never noticed that little arrow not connected to that ability?
Heh, don't feel bad, it took me a little while to make the connection myself. It's like, you try looking for the hard solution, when the simple one is right under your nose.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 27, 2003, 03:53:52 PMAh, but... you were online when I posted the initial post, so I didn't know if you had already read it or not.
If a new reply is posted even while I'm reading a thread, I think it'll appear as 'New' when I return to the thread-page. If I'm reading another thread, it's certain to be marked as 'New'.
Quote from: Jeysie on November 27, 2003, 03:53:52 PMAnd I'm flattered that you actually pay attention to all the blather I write. Even I barely have that much free time.
If I won't even read the messages posted by my lovely one, I'd not be worth calling you that so... :-* BTW, I read
every (new)
post made on this forum, sooner or later.
Quote from: copycat on November 28, 2003, 04:34:13 PMIf a new reply is posted even while I'm reading a thread, I think it'll appear as 'New' when I return to the thread-page. If I'm reading another thread, it's certain to be marked as 'New'.
Lemme rephrase. I posted the initial post. I then had to go and add information. If I simply modified the initial post, AFAIK it would not be marked as new again, so if you had already read the post before I modified it, you might miss the modification.
Er, OK, I guess that doesn't make that much more sense. Oh well, it's not important.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on November 28, 2003, 10:31:26 PMEr, OK, I guess that doesn't make that much more sense. Oh well, it's not important.
You seem to underestimate my logical reading skills. I now understand your concern.
The question is: if someone has read a post, and after that someone modifies the post, does it appear as 'New' again, or not?
I seem to have gotten an MSN request from someone named jeysie@att.net asking to add me to her buddy/contact list. Now I've got two of her as well, but I 'nick'-ed the new one as 'Liz. ;D I can't seem to find an authorization-item in the preferences, does that mean it's default behaviour for ICQ, AIM or MSN in GAIM to ask for permission before someone gets to add you to their list? Or is it default behavior for ICQ and MSN, but not for AIM? Or, third option: I have overlooked that item, but there aren't a lot of preference-items so that'd be quite difficult.
I have a webcam now... ;D Though I have to freshen up a bit before I get on MSN. ;)
Quote from: Jeysie on November 30, 2003, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: copycat on November 30, 2003, 02:18:42 PMThe question is: if someone has read a post, and after that someone modifies the post, does it appear as 'New' again, or not?
In my experience, it does not, but someone more familar with the forum software would be able to give a definitive answer. (tickles Yonkey)
I don't think modifying a post will mark it as 'New'. 8)
Quote from: Jeysie on December 07, 2003, 02:44:42 PMWell, the problem is, you're searching the M$ database... how is that going to help you with a Trillian error? ;)
It
is an error created by the M$n network...
Quote from: Jeysie on December 07, 2003, 02:44:42 PMOr you could e-mail Trillian themselves... I can't believe I just thought of that now.
I can't rightly find an e-mail address for tech support on the support-part of their site. :-\
Quote from: copycat on December 09, 2003, 02:37:33 PM
Quote from: Jeysie on December 07, 2003, 02:44:42 PMWell, the problem is, you're searching the M$ database... how is that going to help you with a Trillian error? ;)
It is an error created by the M$n network...
Well, yes, but even M$ had an error fix, it would be for their MSN program, and not necessarily applicable to Trillian. ;)
Quote from: copycat on December 09, 2003, 02:37:33 PMI can't rightly find an e-mail address for tech support on the support-part of their site. :-\
http://www.trillian.cc/contact/
They seem to have an "MSN 6 connectivity problems" "message nature" option.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on December 09, 2003, 03:09:22 PMbut even M$ had an error fix, it would be for their MSN program, and not necessarily applicable to Trillian. ;)
I wasn't looking for an error fix, I was looking for a description of the error-number.
Quote from: Jeysie on December 09, 2003, 03:09:22 PMhttp://www.trillian.cc/contact/
They seem to have an "MSN 6 connectivity problems" "message nature" option.
That's not in the support section is it? It's more in the 'Contact' section I'd say. ;) Anyway, I've just posted a message on their support forum. That's for starters, if they can't help me I'll try the contact-option. However, bear in mind that I'm a free version-user so I might not get an answer soon. :-\
I don't have MSN...nor do I intend to get it...I dont see 4 gazillion messenger programs. I have AIM and Yahoo, but I'm nver on yahoo, i dont like it, and the whole 5 people i have on there are never on anyways...
yeah I hardly use yahoo IM now since msn has the same that yahoo has and even its even more user friendly than yahoo can freaking ever be, even to send a file over yahoo gives me a headache, unlike msn you just drag and voila. Plus the webcam features (new features) are also very nice, although I think MSN 6.1 does sucks :P lol, I dont know if its just me but I think its buggy as hell, it gets moody sometimes :D
Quote from: TakariFreak on December 11, 2003, 11:50:53 AMI dont see 4 gazillion messenger programs.
You don't need to. Several multi-messenger programs are available, so you only need that one program connecting to all your different networks and you're all set. ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, IRC, no problem (sometimes depending on your OS and the IE-version installed). I currently have three messenger programs, 1) ICQ (which can only connect to the ICQ network, obviously), 2) Trillian (which can connect to ICQ and AIM, but not MSN (yet)) and 3) GAIM (to connect to ICQ, AIM and MSN). Trillian is better looking than GAIM, but GAIM can do MSN, so, if Trillian can't make me connect to MSN, GAIM wins, otherwise Trillian does. It's as simple as that.
Quote from: Say on December 11, 2003, 01:24:43 PMalthough I think MSN 6.1 does sucks :P lol, I dont know if its just me but I think its buggy as hell, it gets moody sometimes :D
No, it's not just you, I think MSN sucks too. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on December 11, 2003, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: Say on December 11, 2003, 01:24:43 PMalthough I think MSN 6.1 does sucks :P lol, I dont know if its just me but I think its buggy as hell, it gets moody sometimes :D
No, it's not just you, I think MSN sucks too. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
/me thinks Say's talking about the MSN 6.1
messenger. 8)
Quote from: copycat on December 11, 2003, 04:15:28 PM/me thinks Say's talking about the MSN 6.1 messenger. 8)
Yeah, I know. But since MSN in and of itself sucks, who cares if the official MSN program sucks or not? ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on December 11, 2003, 04:20:43 PMBut since MSN in and of itself sucks, who cares if the official MSN program sucks or not? ;)
Both the MSN Messenger and MSN
might suck. I can't comment on the MSN messenger, because I don't use it. I can only comment on the suckyness of the MSN-network. :suffer:
hahahaha!! Im addicted to MSN by now I guess but YES yes at some level it gets to my nerves, MSN messenger the newest version 6.1 does sucks to me, I mean it has all this fancy thing and stuff but if it werent so buggy... I wouldnt mind at all, but it does have some weird stuff at times, it gets all moody hahaha, it pisses me off :D
Quote from: Say on December 12, 2003, 04:25:39 PMMSN messenger the newest version 6.1 does sucks to me
Two things you can do:
a) downgrade to 6.0 (if that's possible, I don't know)
b) use another messenger program.
8)
Oh no no no thanks, I prefer to b**** at it and wait for a next version, 6.0 has sort of the same bugs anyways, and about other messenger program that wouldnt be a wise move for me since I have half of my life in msn including the entire kq team contact list, and such. And I dont like trillian.
Quote from: Say on December 12, 2003, 04:48:14 PMthat wouldnt be a wise move for me since I have half of my life in msn including the entire kq team contact list, and such. And I dont like trillian.
If you don't like Trillian, there are always other multi-messenging programs out there, and even some webbased single ones (only MSN) too! Besides, can't Trillian import an MSN contact list? It could import my ICQ contact list (and so could GAIM), didn't have an MSN contact list yet, and still don't (in Trillian).