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Title: Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Peasant_Girl on November 17, 2003, 02:36:54 AM
Hi it's me again....(if anyone remembers me) but don't worry I'm too busy to bother you much from now on.
Just wanted to say I LOVE your work, LOVE your sketches and screen shots and ideas....since I was here last you have done sooo much!!!!!!!!!! Its so good to really see that your making BIG progress.
I can't wait for KQ9 to come out!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep it UP, Keep it UP!!!
:D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Yonkey on November 17, 2003, 07:38:20 AM
Hey Peasant Girl!

Welcome back!  We were wondering what happened to ya.   ;D  Yep, the game is moving at a very steady pace these days.  It's really exciting, even for us on the team!  :D  Thanks for taking some time to talk to us again.  We missed ya and hope you come back soon.   :)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on November 17, 2003, 09:43:15 AM
OMFG NINAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NINA WELCOME BAAAACCCKKK!!!! :D!!!!!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on November 17, 2003, 10:52:10 AM
Hi Peasant Girl! We missed ya!

Get unbusy soon, now, ya hear? ;D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: beernutts on November 19, 2003, 12:05:06 PM
What progress sounds right.  What Progress?  Sounds to me this project has been stuck in neutral for over 4 years now.  I hope it gets something out, but i am, as always, doubtful.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 01:00:11 PM
/me pulls out her notebook and puts on some cheesy thick 70's-style space-secretary glasses.

Tell me, Beernuts, what is your motivation with these posts?

Attempting to motivate the team? None necessary. They know that at this point, if they don't complete the game, a good chunk of the adventure game community will lynch them. If they wait until after they've held voice auditions and recordings to cancel the game, we'll lynch and torment them, preferable involving a large-scale tickling-with-feathers scheme.

Seriously, what I've heard and seen of what they've released excites me, and I'm not even on the team. I can't speak for everyone, but I know that when I'm working on a project, and it starts getting far enough along to be awesome-looking, I absolutely can't wait to get it finished and show everyone. I would think these guys would have the same drive. So if they can't finish it they may lynch themselves.

Finally, Mike just had to buy a whole ton of equipment for the auditions. If he doesn't get to use it... well, I know *I* would get cranky.

Pissing people off? I prefer to see the good in people whenever possible, so I certainly hope this isn't the reason.

Just expressing your feelings? Yes, there's free speech on the Net, and you're entitled to express your opinion. But you have to know when it's not a good idea to say what you're thinking.

I mean, heck, I'm a horrible pessimist, much to my roommate's perpetual dismay. I not only am convinced something will go wrong, I'm usually convinced everything will go wrong, and in the worst possible way. So if I see ways something might go wrong, and I think they are solvable or preventable, I will point them out (much to everyone else's perpetual dismay).

But there comes situations where even if something does go wrong, there's not much you can do about it. I'm not on the team, I don't have any game-creating skills. So if something goes wrong and they absolutely can't finish it, no amount of pissing, moaning, whining, or griping on my part is going to help. So I have three main choices.

One, not get involved with the game at all, and invest no emotions in the matter at all until it does or doesn't come out.

Two, keep track of the progress of the game, and engage in conversations with forum members on the assumption the game will come out. If it does, life is peachy. If it doesn't, life sucks, but at least I'll have gotten to spend all this time having fun and meeting some cool new online pals.

Three, express pessimistic concerns about whether or not the game will come out, despite the fact that they not only have no practical purpose or usefulness, but will make everyone either depressed or angry, depending on their disposition.

In short, express opinions that will cause negative emotions only if it will cause practical gain... otherwise let everyone have their fun. From one miserable pessimist to another. ;)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: mfortunato on November 19, 2003, 01:24:55 PM
I understand your frustration.  This game has been in development for quite some time.  But much progress has been made.  See my post under "Only want to ask....".

We are working hard on getting this game out, it will not be vaporware. :D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: Storm on November 19, 2003, 01:15:47 PMIt amazing how much attention and lengthy posts Beernutts manages to provoke  :P
Just read his last Back to earth time thread (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=22;action=display;threadid=135).

Heh. I was trying to forestall another big hoo-rah-rah like that one. Besides, I am always curious why people do what they do. And maybe he won't feel so put-upon if it's another pessimist doing the commenting. ;)

Not to mention that... *commercial companies* can take 4 or more years to release games... I don't see why a lengthy amount of time is unreasonable for a venture where nobody's getting paid and everyone can only work on it in free time between work and/or school.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Storm on November 19, 2003, 02:12:45 PM
Not to mention that *commercial companies* can also cancel or postpone game releases, though usually not as often as fan games makers do  ;)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: beernutts on November 19, 2003, 03:08:38 PM
Why motivation for my posts?  Same as yours for all your posts.  To discuss KQ9 in some way.  My discussions are alot of the time on why I feel the progress is nto significant, and why I have powerful feelings the game will never get done.  There's no real pratical reason for posting anything on these "discussion" boards, outside of the team members.

I usually stop by here every once in a  while to check on KQ9, and sometimes I'll make a post.  If kq9 gets to the point where all the voice acting is complete, then I'll feel better about it, but till then, I'm as pessimistic as always.  GoodLuck.
Nutts
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Jeysie on November 19, 2003, 03:16:02 PM
I'll agree that a lot of the stuff we post here doesn't have much practical purpose, but it's fun, and keeps us entertained. Whereas posting pessimistic opinions that serve no practical purpose just make everyone miserable. So why do it? Like I said, if you're gonna bring people down, do it only when you have a reason. (shrug)

Quote from: beernutts on November 19, 2003, 03:08:38 PMMy discussions are alot of the time on why I feel the progress is not significant, and why I have powerful feelings the game will never get done.

But... why have those discussions? A discussion in a forum should be entertaining, useful, or both. The sort of discussions you're trying to start are none of those things. What are you expecting from them?

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Peasant_Girl on November 21, 2003, 03:29:39 AM
Yeh, thats the whole point. It IS a fan project after all. I mean what DO you expect from people who aren't being professionally paid? They sure have done a lot considering all this! 8)

Great to see ya again SAY! Missed YOu a lot....and old bushie...and Ceasar....and...everyone else!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: mfortunato on November 21, 2003, 10:30:20 AM
It's true, it's a downer when someone posts negative, pessimistic comments.  But at the same time, nutts is showing how he cares about the game in his own way.  If he didn't feel passionate about it, he wouldn't pop up every now and again, would he?  He's excited about the game but frustrated that it's not completed.  You think he's still going to be pessimistic when he download's the completed game?  I think not.  I think he'll be just as excited as everyone else - even more so, because he seems to keep psyching himself out that this game will never be completed.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on November 21, 2003, 04:23:03 PM
OMG OMG NINAAAA HEELLOOOOO!!! :D!!!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: KatieHal on November 24, 2003, 01:25:47 PM
Oh gee, my favorite nay-sayer is back....  ::)

He can feel how he likes, but it's annoying and pestering as all hell to have someone reply to posts where we DO say hey, we've done a lot, this is what we've done, etc, and have him more or less sh!t on us saying we ARE doing stuff by saying, yeah, well, whatever, this won't ever happen, etc, I don't really care what you say and I don't believe you.

Stop asking if it doesn't matter what the answer is, we're all well aware of your opinion by now.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on November 26, 2003, 10:47:10 AM
hahaha, anyways lets look at the bright side, there is the most ppl who does at least enjoy being around while waiting than the ones complaining :D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Storm on November 26, 2003, 05:19:33 PM
Well, most people wouldn't bother to complain. If they've already decided this project is doomed to failure they wouldn't believe anything written here anyway, and probably wouldn't even bother posting.

That guy just likes to get a rise out of people - by now, he should already know his remarks upset some posters and offend some team members, yet he carries on with them  ::)
Also, he didn't settle for his first recent post (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=585), but came here to rain on other people's compliments as well. Not very civil IMO  :P
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on November 27, 2003, 08:07:26 PM
btw, just would like to comment...

nina seems to be back but away or something :(
she doesnt like us anymore  :-\
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on November 27, 2003, 11:34:42 PM
No, she's just really busy according to her first post in this thread...  :-\
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: KatieHal on December 01, 2003, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: Storm on November 26, 2003, 05:19:33 PM
Well, most people wouldn't bother to complain. If they've already decided this project is doomed to failure they wouldn't believe anything written here anyway, and probably wouldn't even bother posting.

That guy just likes to get a rise out of people - by now, he should already know his remarks upset some posters and offend some team members, yet he carries on with them  ::)
Also, he didn't settle for his first recent post (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=585), but came here to rain on other people's compliments as well. Not very civil IMO  :P

Unforutnately, I'm a person that kind of thing often works on... ::sigh::  

I can't stand people purposefully being and acting like little s**** like this guy. F*** off man. And in that first post, he's all pessimistic, but then goes on to say, oh but I won't help even though I doubt all of YOUR abilities to do this. Then shut the f*** up! Don't trash it and say crap like that! UGH. We hates him!! HATES HIM!

:P ::)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Yonkey on December 01, 2003, 12:03:22 PM
Wooo!  Katie's on a rampage! :D

Heheh, I know exactly what you're feeling though Katie.  When I saw his post back in the summer I felt the same way!  Being pessimistic is one thing, but the manner in which he expresses it is another.  

It's interesting that he decided to post in Peasant_Girl's thead -- we have one fan truly optimistic about the game and is able to see our progress, just from the few updates we post.  Then there's beernutts that is truly pessimistic about the game and does not see any progress, but just sees how far away we are from the end result.   ::)

I say it's interesting because we literally have the two extremes!  If you're outside the team, the fact is you can't see any progress until it is mentioned or talked about.  Even then, the "seeing is believing" thing seems to outweigh any other kind of feedback from the team.  On the other hand, those of us inside the team literally see all the work being done, but obviously can't show it outside.   ;D

Even trying to make a progress report is difficult since the game is being developed in so many different departments in different stages.  However, the directors know the game's progress better than anyone, so it's probably best to just keep checking for updates from them.  8)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on December 01, 2003, 04:47:00 PM
*prods Cesar* ;)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: copycat on December 05, 2003, 05:08:54 PM
Although I've seen projects into which a lot of effort was put, being scrubbed off IRL, that's only because I work in a government company where profit is not the company goal. In normal companies, if you do that, you get fired. Ofcourse, the KQ IX-team can't get fired, but they have devoted so much of their free time into this project, why would they stop now, when preparations for the voice auditions are in full swing? If we can't rely on the information posted by the team members in these forums, what can we rely on? I have complete confidence in the KQ IX-team that they will deliver as promised. ;)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on December 05, 2003, 07:28:26 PM
hahaha, omg, in KQ9 team... you can get fired actually.

In fact, the whole process to get in its sort of the same, the interview, evaluation skills, as if to promote/demote (not sure if thats the word, I hope it is :P), work schedule, directive staff calls, as well as to even fire ppl, I do know that myself I had to deal with some of those myself (I wont name the cases of course).

so IMO, this all works as a regular company, just we dont get paid at all :D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Cez on December 07, 2003, 12:52:31 PM
Thanks for the words, Say :)

I blushed!

But Say is right, the last week of next january will be our second year since we took off. In the process, we've learned lots, especially from our own mistakes, found shortcuts, learned how to manage an enormous team, etc, etc, etc. There is so much experience I've gained from this that I could write a book about it.

But, beernutts, if you are saying you'll only believe a bit more when the voices are recorded, come back next year in march. I'll tell you exactly how many hours (including minutes and seconds) we have on dialogues.

If you care to stop by by the End of December/early January, I'll give you a final pages count of the script (Which is about 2000)

If I could show you our Pre-Alpha demo, I would, but hey, I don't want to spoil the fun for you ;)

But, if you are expecting us to post the whole script, voices and demos so you can believe that we are indeed making progress, I don't know exactly what part of Utopia you live on ;)

César
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: MangoMercury on December 07, 2003, 03:42:45 PM
I = teh Roberta Williams, adn I say that this'll get finished, darnit!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on December 08, 2003, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: César_Bittar on December 07, 2003, 12:52:31 PM
Thanks for the words, Say :)
I blushed!

after 2 years you kinda start to get attached with ppl without even knowing it :D *hugz*
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on December 11, 2003, 03:56:59 PM
Go team!  ;D Ignore all doomsayers, we all know you're going to make a wikid game. Just keep churning out the sketches to keep us all happy. Some new music wouldn't go amiss either, can't wait to see what the music teams come up with recently!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: copycat on December 12, 2003, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: Say on December 05, 2003, 07:28:26 PMhahaha, omg, in KQ9 team... you can get fired actually.
Yes, but who can fire the complete KQ IX-team?
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on December 12, 2003, 04:12:40 PM
LOL!!

why would we fire the entire team?! OMG I FIRE MYSELF... hhahaha, that makes no sense at all :D

well we've have had bad moments, really, those are really ackward and really horrible for me, I had to deal myself with some of my own old friends resign, as well as to some get fired, it was.. ugh, horrible, being so long in this project you do get attached with people and when this happen its like  you just, wow, cant seem to believe it at first :(
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Storm on December 12, 2003, 07:35:00 PM
What does it take for someone to be kicked off the team?  :o
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on December 13, 2003, 02:10:32 PM
well, it is not as easy to get in as to maintain yourself in the team, for example one of the things Im most strict with its the report, if you dont report to me you have issues, I try to be also try to stay real and I know not everyone has the same amount of time to commit than others so, not only I get to be flexible with deadlines but also I we help out a lot, sort of like to make it easier, thats why I say team work its a must, its not just for only good stuff but also for everything. So I havent directly fired anyone, in my case I've handled resignments, I once had to fire some ppl but from another department :S

And I may say that I think thats been the reason in another departments as well, the fact people just "get lost" and wont even reply a freaking email in over 3 months its like, the fact you are busy or having issues its not for you to run and hide, you should at least inform your director telling whats the situation and we are all people with real lifes we would understand for sure, and give us time to move your assignment to someone else that way you can be away and we wont get stuck, thats why its so important, also we have this sort of check up of staff to know what each is doing and to reassign work on each and stuff.

So, to close this, the main reason why you would get fired is if you just quit us first and get lost :/, because thats the key of good work here, this is a non-profit project so either you want to do it or not :/, you know? oh well, whats sad its for me to see so many people I got attached from the beggining just go because of that... it sucks :/



Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on December 13, 2003, 04:13:23 PM
Well, I finally finished the first assignment after some long talks with Mike, we worked out a deal for the coloring. So now I'm a lot more comfortable with what my job is on the team. ;D Next assignment will be finished 5 hours after I receive it.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on December 19, 2003, 05:03:38 PM
Bushie speaking of it, what are you up to lately?
I havent even seen you online lately :/
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on December 20, 2003, 07:58:31 PM
Sorry, trying to get one last paper done before the holidays to get rid of my incomplete. :P Almost there...
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: copycat on December 28, 2003, 10:53:29 AM
Quote from: Say on December 28, 2003, 12:32:58 AMI wanted to thank you all for the support and for being there :)
Those thanks go right back at you and everyone else on these forums.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Jeysie on December 28, 2003, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: copycat on December 28, 2003, 10:53:29 AMThose thanks go right back at you and everyone else on these forums.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Yes! Thank you for making my days a little brighter and more entertaining, giving me an excuse to go to NYC, giving me lots of nice sketches to drool over, getting to see pics of all the cute forum guys (and pretty ladies!), and proving that there are actually fangirls out there more hormonal than I am! :suffer: ;D

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: KatieHal on December 30, 2003, 07:30:31 AM
Quote from: Jeysie on December 28, 2003, 12:01:28 PM
Yes! Thank you for making my days a little brighter and more entertaining, giving me an excuse to go to NYC, giving me lots of nice sketches to drool over, getting to see pics of all the cute forum guys (and pretty ladies!), and proving that there are actually fangirls out there more hormonal than I am! :suffer: ;D

Peace & Luv, Liz

Ahem, I can't imagine WHO you might mean....  O:-)

Yay KQ 9 team!!!  And forum people!!!
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Oldbushie on January 02, 2004, 02:29:25 PM
Yay!!!! :D
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on January 07, 2004, 04:09:55 AM
Quote from: copycat on December 28, 2003, 10:53:29 AM
Those thanks go right back at you and everyone else on these forums.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:) !!!!!!!!
<3<3<3<3<3
*hugz* :)

well it is true, I cant deny the fact that I love the forums, but that's because Im attached to all of you :P wtf, I even miss you all when Im too busy sometimes and I cant hang around here :(, oh well but its been a bit crazy lately for me,  I dont quite like it when -I have- to put my wtf.boss-super.suit :-\, but oh well... things will get back on track and everything will be alright soon :) <3




Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: uselessidguy331 on January 26, 2004, 06:35:45 PM
I just want to thank everyone on the staff of making this....it means alot to me. I grew up on these games  (1-7 at least) and was shocked to see how bad KQ8 was. I'm really glad that you guys are taking the time to continue the greatest computer game series of all time, and to bring back the classic, thinking/strategy/adventure modes rather than all combat. I wish you all the best and hope the game comes out soon.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Yonkey on January 26, 2004, 07:02:09 PM
Thanks for the support & wishes, uselessidguy!  :)

We hope the game will be released soon too!  But, in the mean time we do have many surprises happening this year.  Actually the one currently being planned is going to be really huge!  :D  8)
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on January 26, 2004, 07:27:25 PM
Quote from: uselessidguy331 on January 26, 2004, 06:35:45 PM
I just want to thank everyone on the staff of making this....it means alot to me. I grew up on these games  (1-7 at least) and was shocked to see how bad MoE was. I'm really glad that you guys are taking the time to continue the greatest computer game series of all time, and to bring back the classic, thinking/strategy/adventure modes rather than all combat. I wish you all the best and hope the game comes out soon.

that's so lovely, thanks a lot, it means the world that people support us and like it, and we just honestly adore our friends around here since they do come and hang with the team, the ask stuff, the give us feedback about things, they also speak their ideas, and it is a great thing, since we are doing this not for us, but for everyone, inside of it there is the biggest meaning of all and its to please the nice fans like all of you.

Also the amazing support given by Gamespot, The Inventory and Just Adventure and Computer Game World, and hopefully so much more to come, this is something amazing and exciting, and also beautiful to come together and work on something good even if its not payed, to have a talented staff to work with, I must I have no social life! hahaha but I think I earned something better :) and I bet the others directors and staff sort of feel the same way.

Again, thanks a lot, it just inspire us more to keep on going :)

Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Rosedragon on February 16, 2004, 10:39:23 AM
Peasant girl! Hey all of my favorite people are back! I just wanted to say I am so pleased with all of the progress the team is making. I hope the new four winds newletter is up. I'll go check it out. you know I worked on some Four Winds articles.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Say on February 16, 2004, 10:51:09 AM
it is currently unavailable, sorry :(

for further details on this please contact me directly, hence you are part of that team which is into my department now.
Title: Re:Wow what progress!!!!!!!
Post by: Storm on February 16, 2004, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: Dragonstar on February 16, 2004, 10:39:23 AM
Peasant girl! Hey all of my favorite people are back!

She's not exactly back... she just drops by every once in a while. A bit like you but not as often  :D