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Title: New MIDI
Post by: Mikazo on January 15, 2004, 06:53:12 PM
I was fooling around with a MIDI composition program and came up with this.  It's just an experiment, but I had King's Quest in mind when I made it and thought it was worth sharing.

'Course, I had to post it here cause I didn't see any section for "Fan Music."

http://www.geocities.com/mikazo_2000/medieval.mid

You'll have to cut and paste the link into the browser window or it won't work.

The general theme for this MIDI may be as such: the hero rescues a kingdom in a foreign land, a celebration ensues among the people, the king thanks him, the people in that kingdom gain more hope.  Something like that.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Say on January 15, 2004, 08:02:05 PM
omg <3


I loved it!!!1
it so adventure feeling
remind me of the good old games ! <3
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on January 15, 2004, 09:02:14 PM
Nice!  :D

It made me think of someone sailing a ship across the seas.  ;D Then it turned a bit majestic!  Cool!  :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Mikazo on January 15, 2004, 09:16:53 PM
I'm glad it made you think of that.  I like music you can write stories to and associate with images, so that's what I try to create.  I just think it's more interesting that way.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Storm on January 15, 2004, 09:24:21 PM
Nice!!! and very King's Quest-like  ;D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on January 15, 2004, 09:25:34 PM
Wow!!!!!! What midi composition program was this?
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Mikazo on January 15, 2004, 09:30:01 PM
Cakewalk, though there are others out there.  With Cakewalk you program the key and time signatures, then punch in the notes individually for each instrument.  It's really time consuming, but all the instruments line up real nice that way.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: gjozefi on January 16, 2004, 10:56:23 AM
Sounds very Final Fantasy-ish...
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Say on January 16, 2004, 04:38:17 PM
I think it sounds more kq-ish :D

because final fantasy has more of a fantasy theme, kq its more adventure like, sort of what I felt like when I heard the midi :)

lol, I wanted to go out adventureous ;D (or whatever the hell that's spelled... if that's even a word, lol)

Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Jeysie on January 16, 2004, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: Say on January 16, 2004, 04:38:17 PMlol, I wanted to go out adventureous ;D (or whatever the hell that's spelled... if that's even a word, lol)

I think you're looking for "adventuring". :)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: StephieSama on January 16, 2004, 08:52:16 PM
Wicked nifty.
I wish I could write music with my computer like this.
Alas, I use NoteWorthy Composer and I am not so good with music writing.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Storm on January 17, 2004, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on January 15, 2004, 09:02:14 PMIt made me think of someone sailing a ship across the seas.  ;D Then it turned a bit majestic!  

Yeah, but the begining sounded like some medieval fair  :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on February 04, 2004, 02:41:33 PM
I can't access the page for some reason, in fact I can't EVER access ANY Geocities site pages, always comes up with an error.....
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on February 04, 2004, 05:21:31 PM
Hey Alex:
Quote from: Mikazo on January 15, 2004, 06:53:12 PM
You'll have to cut and paste the link into the browser window or it won't work.
;D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Mikazo on February 04, 2004, 08:05:08 PM
I'm getting a feeling I may have picked up that initial melody with the flute from somewhere else... I got the tune in my head before I wrote it, and it sounded vaguely familiar.  If anybody has heard that melody anywhere else, I'd like to know.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Jeysie on February 04, 2004, 08:36:17 PM
Hmm. You're right... I've definitely heard that somewhere before myself. I can't place where either, though.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on February 05, 2004, 06:35:52 AM
Thats what I was doing copying and pasting, still get error message....I reckon a proxy setting swrong or something. Oh also I can't download the file which is another worrying thing, always Geocities sites!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Mikazo on February 08, 2004, 10:37:01 PM
A friend of mine swears that melody is from Final Fantasy.  Which is strange, because I don't play Final Fantasy and I don't see how I could have picked it up from that.  But at any rate, I'm hesitant now to say that MIDI is really mine, since that part of the melody was borrowed.  It's really hard to say.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Jeysie on February 09, 2004, 04:53:21 AM
The only Final Fantasy I've seriously played is FF1... so if it is from FF, it's gotta be from that one. I personally was going to say it was from Chrono Trigger, but I'm not certain. I'll have to download and listen to some CT midis.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on February 09, 2004, 07:55:35 AM
Can someone PLEASE!!! Send me this Midi, I can't access either of them so if someone could email or PM or whatever them to me that'd be great...ta!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on February 09, 2004, 11:29:16 AM
http://mason.gmu.edu/~alight/medieval.mid
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Storm on February 09, 2004, 02:17:38 PM
I never played (or even saw, for that matter) any Final Fantasy, but the begining of the theme sounds familiar to me as well... can't recall where from though  :-\
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on February 12, 2004, 12:04:49 PM
Yay finally heard it :D Wow thats really nice, I love the harp part in the middle and I think it might be just that thats making people think final fantasy after the crystal theme thats used in like EVERY game. Still i can't actually place from where its from so I wouldn't be too worried just keep on writing you've got a good talent there. Nowwwww.....can someone link the other one as well??? please??? Bushie???? :D:D:D:D:D

EDIT: ACTUALLY I'd have to agree with Jeysie on the chrono trigger resemblence(ugh spelling) as it reminds of the millenial(ugh spelling again) fair. Still thought its not THE exact tune and part of being a musician is robbing other peoples work and making it better. Look at Bach :p
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on February 12, 2004, 12:16:18 PM
Oh heres a little thing ive been experimenting on after playing FF8, I wanted to make the ballroom music but got carried away with other stuff it doesnt actually sound anything like it......well anyway heres the link!

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/meh.mid
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on February 12, 2004, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: a_c_saunders on February 12, 2004, 12:04:49 PM
Nowwwww.....can someone link the other one as well??? please??? Bushie???? :D:D:D:D:D

Sorry, I can't find the other one, was that in this thread or another thread? ???
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Storm on February 13, 2004, 01:12:34 PM
I think he meant this link:

http://www.geocities.com/mikazo_2000/arabian.mid
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on February 13, 2004, 01:41:56 PM
Otay! Here's a link to it on my website:

Arabian Kings (http://mason.gmu.edu/~alight/arabian.mid)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on February 18, 2004, 01:17:53 PM
Well the first 4 notes of "medieval" sound very much like the beginning to the Gilligan Island's theme :P.

I totally dig the medieval theme.

It sounds very much like a Celtic piece.  That may just be where the similarity to something someone has heard is.  The beginning actually sounds similar to Conquest of the Longbow - but again, that was another Celtic themed piece.

Very nice indeed :)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: FataliOmega on March 16, 2004, 04:35:55 PM
That little flute piece isnt from CT or FF3/6 through 9... because I simply have never heard it. Is it possible its something from Zelda? Ive never played zelda but it sounds like it could be taken in part from that.  ???
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Jeysie on March 16, 2004, 04:51:43 PM
Nah, it can't be from Zelda. I've never played any of the Zeldas, yet the tune sounds familiar to me.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 17, 2004, 04:41:11 PM
I still swear its Chrono Trigger at the festival....not the exact tune but its pretty similar. Oh yeah I'll post one of my current compositions in a bit I need some feedback if thats ok with anyone who wants to give feedback? Be as brutal as you wish :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 17, 2004, 04:49:02 PM
Been working on this for about a week now and I dunno where its really going but I was in a happy mood so I thought I'd take advantage of it:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/comp1.mid

Been working on this almost two weeks now and again I was in a mood but a bad one this time hehe. SO anyway this ones going to have lyrics at one point and be ported to guitar mostly with just piano chrods etc etc

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/comp2.mid

I don't know WTF I was thinking of today when I did this but I must have been in a wierd mood! I like it thouhg, reminds me of one of bjorks songs for some reason

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/comp3.mid

Ok, slaughter away  <3
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 17, 2004, 04:50:48 PM
LOL! Ok theyre not working, will be up ASAP

EDIT:Ok working now, right click and save as...

EDIT2:Yuck the second one goes messed up in the middle a bit so ignore that...
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on March 17, 2004, 05:09:14 PM
The first two are good, the third one is awesome! :D
I have the third one on loop right now.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 17, 2004, 05:10:25 PM
Hahaha, I actually liked the comp3.mid one the best!  XD :P

The first one got a little annoying after a bit, the second one was quite a lot better, but had a few odd things in there.  :)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 17, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
Hahaha wow and thats 50 BMP slower than how it should be as well! I like rhythms  <3 especially making stuff that no one can play. I shall work on comp3 with more zest now! Ta! Oh and of course theyre all still works in progress so thats why they all just kinda stop.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 18, 2004, 11:00:39 AM
All three are great, Alex!  I love the chords used in the first two, so those I think are my favorite.  There's some lovely, lush chords used.

I'm going to post two pieces that I wrote for a show we just finished.  I did sound design for a new modern adaptaion of Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.

The first piece was used at the end of the show.  It's repetitive because it was used as transition music.

The 2nd piece wasn't used in the show.  But I like it.  It was concept music for Brutus' death.

Let me know what you think! (when I upload them - give me a bit and I'll have them up).
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 18, 2004, 11:23:02 AM
Better yet.  Here's a link to them on the web:
http://www.geocities.com/m_fortunato/AmericanCaesar.htm

You'll have to right click on each file and save them first.  My apologies for them being mp3 and not mid.  The settings I used for them wouldn't work with general midi.

Enjoy!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on March 18, 2004, 12:44:32 PM
Beautiful!!!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 01:51:22 PM
Ahg teh bloody Geocities curse  >:( My IE never lets me go to ANY geocities pages it just comes up with an error message. I reckon its some kind of settings that are different to the norm....anyone heard of this happening?
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 02:10:38 PM
What error message do you get?  Only thing I can suggest is clearing your cookies and checking your internet security settings to make sure you aren't blocking them for Geocities.

Wow Mike!  I was actually dancing to the End of Act II song, hahaha!  Amazingly, it actually sounds like what's going through my head when I'm completely stressed out.  ;D

The Brutus' Death one was really nice, soothing & secsay.  <3

When I tried listening to the third, I got a bandwidth limitation error, lol:

QuoteThe web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data transfer. Visit our help area for more information.
Access to this site will be restored within an hour. Please try again later.

Don't ya just love Yahoo ;P
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 02:18:25 PM
UGH! (click the filename)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 02:30:20 PM
oh and if everyone ones some decent webspace that works (for me :P) sign up for a 50MB free account @:

http://www.tripod.lycos.co.uk/
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 02:30:56 PM
Heh, I got the same error when I tried downloading a tax form from my school.  It was a .pdf document and on a https so it might be a bit different.  Also, a lot of other students have the same problem, so most likely it's a problem with the site itself.  ::)

As for Geocities... I'm not sure why you'd get that.  Do you get the same error when you go to http://www.geocities.com ?
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 02:35:02 PM
 :S

Uhhhm check out this, especially the file name I circled! Its what comes up at geocities.com........

Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 18, 2004, 02:40:45 PM
I've apparently exceeded my monthly bandwidth.  I'll move the files to a different site and re post.  Sorry!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: a_c_saunders on March 18, 2004, 02:35:02 PM
:S

Uhhhm check out this, especially the file name I circled! Its what comes up at geocities.com........



HAHAHAHAHA WTF?!  Dude, clean the spyware/adware from your system asap.  That's definitely not at geocities.com hahahaha :o
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 18, 2004, 02:56:11 PM
Okay - I just threw this up on my Verizon account:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2333c/americancaesarmusic/

Give that a go!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 04:55:10 PM
Oh is that what it is, lol!!!!!! know any decent programs?
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 05:01:12 PM
Ad-aware (http://www.lavasoftusa.com) is the probably the best one.  There are other spyware & adware cleaners as well, but I prefer this one.  :)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on March 18, 2004, 05:13:00 PM
Spybot Search and Destroy works wonders too. ;)
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 05:21:39 PM
Cleaned em all off (91!!) and its still coming up....WTF is it!? Meh!

Mike what program are these done on? Cubase? Anyway whatever the program those are some nice sounding instruments. The tracks (especially the second!) are great, and I love the way in the third one you've made it sound interesting despite it just being the same chord patterns...i need to learn how to do that. Zero 7 are ones for doing it too, they just use really simple chord patterns and motifs but it never sounds boring or repetative.

hehe I say we all have a composition battle and make a KQ9 forum soundtrack! yeahhhh! Oh heres comp3 with more done on it now, the beginnings not quite right yet though as I'm trying to get a certain sound coming through but the tempo jumps WAY too quickly  ::) Oh plus it still should be 50 BMP faster, I can't seem to alter the midi speed no matter what I try :/

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/comp3a.mid


Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 05:29:37 PM
Quote from: a_c_saunders on March 18, 2004, 05:21:39 PM
Cleaned em all off (91!!) and its still coming up....WTF is it!? Meh!

Still??  Hmm, did you update the reference file in AdAware to the newest before starting the scan?  

My guess is whatever it is, it took over the Geocities entry in your Hosts file.

Anyway, I won't explain it over here cuz I'm making the thread off topic, I'll tell ya in MSN.  ;D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 18, 2004, 05:55:26 PM
Woooooooo teh curse is lifted! Ta Neil!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 18, 2004, 06:25:22 PM
Hehe no problem Alex!  I should have asked u about it a long time ago cuz it was easy to fix. ;D

Let us know when you fix the BPM in that midi!  :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 19, 2004, 10:11:55 AM
I'm using Cakewalk HomeStudio.  It's so easy to use, I love it!  And it's not as expensive as some of the big progs. out there.

The instruments were from various sources - some were soundfonts and some were gigastudio instruments.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 19, 2004, 10:18:36 AM
Quote from: a_c_saunders on March 18, 2004, 05:21:39 PM

hehe I say we all have a composition battle and make a KQ9 forum soundtrack! yeahhhh! Oh heres comp3 with more done on it now, the beginnings not quite right yet though as I'm trying to get a certain sound coming through but the tempo jumps WAY too quickly  ::) Oh plus it still should be 50 BMP faster, I can't seem to alter the midi speed no matter what I try :/

http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/comp3a.mid




I don't know about a composition battle - I like to think of it as a composition collaboration.  We can start uploading things and create our KQ9 forum soundtrack.

The battle may be in deciding which pieces we keep for the "official" soundtrack ;).
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 19, 2004, 12:43:21 PM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/warm.mp3

I'm getting really bored of this song now so I wont do any more or I'll start hating it and never go back to it. Still loet me know what you think of the drums, I'm 50/50 on them atm.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Yonkey on March 19, 2004, 02:24:45 PM
Hahahah cool!!  <3

My favourite part is like ~0:45 to around 1:30. ;D  The ending's still a bit strange though, but nice work!  :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on March 19, 2004, 06:42:52 PM
Nice!!!!! The drums are a nice touch.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 21, 2004, 11:48:24 AM
QuoteMy favourite part is like ~0:45 to around 1:30.   The ending's still a bit strange though, but nice work!  

Yeah hehe atm it just stops on a note as its not finished. One day I may return hehe. Oh also about the music being the last thing to be done, it helps alot when you've got the inspiration of something in front of you to see and plan a piece to...hehe not that I'd know or anything!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 22, 2004, 08:17:01 AM
Quote from: a_c_saunders on March 19, 2004, 12:43:21 PM
http://members.lycos.co.uk/acsauk/music/warm.mp3

I'm getting really bored of this song now so I wont do any more or I'll start hating it and never go back to it. Still loet me know what you think of the drums, I'm 50/50 on them atm.

Being someone who has the hardest time laying down drum tracks and bass lines, I must say, I think your use of the drums is excellent.  You laid them down in an interesting way - it wasn't conventional nor cheesy (like my drum tracks - which is why most of the music you will ever hear from me will NOT have drums in them - except for some orchestral percussion).  Of course, the quality of the drums sounds like a cheesy Casio keyboard, but that's because of your midi instrument.  If you have a sound blaster card that supports soundfonts, I recommend downloading and installing some.  You will be amazed at the difference!

When I'm home, I'll post a few links to my favorite soundfont sites where you can download some wonderful sounds for free.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 22, 2004, 11:33:41 AM
Yeah I've seen soundfonts before, I've just never been too sure how to use them! I'm using Sibelius 2.0 to compose rather than cubase or cakewalk so im not actually using a keyboard to play notes into it, its all done via the computer keyboard(that im typing on now hehe). If you know of any starter guides for how to use soundfonts or anything that's be really helpful :D
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: mfortunato on March 23, 2004, 08:53:34 AM
Alex -

A good soundfont site is www.hammersound.net.  They've got tons of soundfonts and they have tutorials on how to load them and how to make them.  I have no idea how to make a soundfont, I just load them.

As far as loading them is concerned, it's actually very easy if you have a SB card (one that supports soundfonts).  The software is already provided for you.   You can choose to either load a single instrument or a whole bank of instruments at once.  I'll see if I can grab some screen shots and send them your way when I have a free moment.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Spikey on May 13, 2004, 10:11:07 AM
Soundfonts really aren't that special.. I don't know how many of you know your Sierra music, but when Sierra games began to get General MIDI soundtracks, they were composed for Roland's Sound Canvas line, which at the time (1991) was the "industry standard" for GM. Personally, I believe the Sound Canvases still give the best General MIDI (and other sets like GS), alongside Yamaha XG. Soundfonts run the same instruments (minus a few variations) at much lower quality.

On the MIDI's: I loved 'Medieval'. Adjusted reverb to 'Hall 1', came up a treat. Might record a MP3 (or OGG Vorbis as I use now) if anyone's curious.

'Arabian Kings' was ok, but needs better instrumentation. But what am I saying- at any rate, you're an amazing composer, Mikazo. Please don't stop. :)

- Spike
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: dew7 on May 14, 2004, 06:03:30 PM
IMO, the best music card ever for a PC was my Roland MT-32 which was a gift from my grandmother to me.  I loved this card and I still have in storage connected to my old 486 with Windows 3.1.  It played great tunes in Quest for Glory I, II, III and King's Quest IV, V, and VI.  Also, Space Quest III.  Ah!  The memories of MID -- now I will have to hook up my old pc and play my old school games again.  :>   ;-D   ;D   :D
BTW, here is some stuff to protect your PC:

http://www.mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Software.htm

This HOSTS file is from A Microsoft MVP and is provided as is --- it will help protect your pc from ads, spyware, malware, etc.  Just download and install  --
This is provided as is and I am not responsible if your PC no longer works -- please experienced users only

http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp

This CD is only available for Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE).

Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery. <courtesy of Microsoft>
Also, use Windows update and download all critical updates.
Finally, Adaware and Spybot are great tools.
Oh Yeah -- make sure you have antivirus and a firewall installed too  :>
Good Luck and I hope your PC experiences are as fun and ad free as mine :>   !!!
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 15, 2004, 05:40:35 PM
Interesting info there Dew! Perhaps next time you can add it to the PC thread here :] (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=927;start=160)

Spikey i think the attraction of soundfonts is the ease of use. You just download them and away you go. Plus theyre free and ANYTHING compared to GM sounds better hehe.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: dew7 on May 20, 2004, 01:02:52 AM
Sorry, I am very careful about clicking any links these days.  I have had too many bad experiences in the past.  You can cut and paste the information and use as you like.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Oldbushie on May 26, 2004, 11:31:05 AM
The link just goes to another thread on the forums, Dew, don't be so absurd. :P There is a way to check links if you get really nervous, just right click and copy link address, then paste it to see what it is. No need to go to it directly. Unless you meant another link, but honestly, I don't know anyone here who has posted a dangerous link ever.
Title: Re:New MIDI
Post by: Storm on May 27, 2004, 04:20:14 PM
I don't see how any link/address can be dangerous... unless it uses cross-site scripting :-\