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*wink, wink*

http://kotaku.com/5529809/the-sequel-they-had-no-right-to-make--now-has-a-surprise-twist

I read it, then promptly came here.  I'm reservedly happy about the possibilities here.  I don't want to get my hopes too high... but...

oh... there they go, flying into the sky.  Silly hopes.  :D

Honestly, I read it and caught myself grinning like a total idiot several times while doing so.  It's a great article that plays to my nostalgia and reminding me how much of my time I've personally invested in discussing and caring about this game both on and offline.  I had friends who offered genuine  "Geez... heard about that game you talked about.  That sucks." statements.

I've been a semi-lurker for such a long time, with periods of greater activity, but this has always been a place where I can find several like minded individuals.  We all enjoyed the original games (though I'm sure some of you would question MoE's validity in that definition - I don't know what's wrong with you people, it wasn't THAT bad... just VERY. VERY different) and we all bear emotional ties in one way or another to them.

I'm glad to be a part of this community.

shall I post this to the website?

owww! great read! hope it works out well!  :o

Atec--please do! :)

I'm so happy to see this article out at last, and I love it!

Amazingly well written! :D Love it!

I think my absolutely favorite response to the article is "open door" because how else do you win in a KQ game if you can't somehow "open door"! XD

*agrees with Cat that it's really well written too*

They mispelled Césars last name though!  :P

That has now been fixed!

:)

That would explain the C&D and why Activision didn't know about you...without those contracts there was no official license in place, and licenses-in-the-making weren't part of the legal file cabinet when it was transferred from VU to AV.

What I don't understand is how this could have happened. When AGDI got its fan license, VU was pretty clear about needing signed contracts sent over. (of course, they had to be clear since two of our games were already out back then) They needed those documents before we were even allowed to put a disclaimer on our site stating we had permission. When you sent virtual signatures, didn't you get a correction? Did they say "yes" when you asked them at the end: "is this all you need" only to change it to "no" later?

As for the talk with Activision, does this mean the only way to get off the hook is to pay Activision or is there still a chance of getting a fan license?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashum.jpg)

Erpy,

There were misunderstandings from both sides and much got lost in the merging. All that is in the past now, however. The important thing is that we are talking to them again at the moment. We will give you details as soon as we know more.

Thanks!
Cesar Bittar

Post this article on the website, Atec. I haven't headed there yet so if you have, you're great!

Glad to hear things have taken a positive turn. I hope it leads to more good news in the future. You guys have earned it.

Great team photo, by the way!

That's quite a costly blunder then, since they could afford to have miscommunications with you, but you could not afford to miscommunicate with them.

It's good you got to talk to them again and see if things can be worked out though. It's an interesting development. I assume, since the article mentioned "businessmen" this is a definite turn in the commercial direction. If you could indeed afford to buy the KQ series, can you still afford to give away the almost-completed first part for free?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashshp.jpg)

The Demographic Survey might come in handy for figuring this out. I remember one of the questions was whether we'd be willing to buy the game. (I said yes, of course.)

Great article!

*is cautiously optimistic* :)

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

My heart is thudding right now.  Exciting stuff!  But, like Snabbot, I'm going to be "cautiously optimistic." 

Don't stop believing, guys!

A belief, a dream and an hope can be powerful. Keep spreading the word around and keep those petitions coming. This article is uplifting and is a good sign of all our hard work, you all should be proud of yourselves.  ;)

It was unfortunate. Problem was that the misunderstanding from their point of view made things look alright. But again, I'm just glad that we are talking again.

I cannot discuss anything of what we are discussing with Activision at the moment, because, well, we are still waiting for answers ourselves. We'll let you guys know as soon as I heard some news.

On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :) :suffer:

Quote from: Erpy on May 04, 2010, 04:47:28 AM
That's quite a costly blunder then, since they could afford to have miscommunications with you, but you could not afford to miscommunicate with them.

It's good you got to talk to them again and see if things can be worked out though. It's an interesting development. I assume, since the article mentioned "businessmen" this is a definite turn in the commercial direction. If you could indeed afford to buy the KQ series, can you still afford to give away the almost-completed first part for free?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashshp.jpg)

KITTY EDIT: added the :suffer: that Cesar forgot. :cat:

Quote from: César_Bittar on May 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PMOn a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)

...only thing this misses is a suffer smiley  :'( :'(

Quote from: B'rrr on May 07, 2010, 12:14:14 PM

Quote from: César_Bittar on May 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PMOn a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)

...only thing this misses is a suffer smiley  :'( :'(

yeah.
:suffer:
there ya go.
not that I've seen it. :P

:'( You all beat me to the :suffer:  ::)

 :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
Not the suffer agian.
:)

Quote from: César_Bittar on May 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM

On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)

Hmmm...I might just edit Cesar's post to add a suffer :P

DO IT!! Honestly, it's a serious breach of tradition! *protests*

QuoteI cannot discuss anything of what we are discussing with Activision at the moment, because, well, we are still waiting for answers ourselves. We'll let you guys know as soon as I heard some news.

Thanks for answering that. I'm kinda curious what they have in mind for you.

And it's good to see you can still play your own game and actually enjoy it. ;)

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashlaug.jpg)

Quote from: koko_99_2001 on May 07, 2010, 03:59:35 PM
Hmmm...I might just edit Cesar's post to add a suffer :P

OMGYAY! She did do it! :D

hehe.... gotta love the suffer.  :)  :suffer:

I don't understand the suffer!  :'(  I feel so out of the loop.

I remember César posting a giant suffer once, horrible!  :'(

Quote from: Haids1987 on May 08, 2010, 02:33:37 PM
I don't understand the suffer!  :'(  I feel so out of the loop.

We are talking about Cesar's post and how it is making us suffer.

Quote from: César_Bittar on May 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM

On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :) :suffer:
KITTY EDIT: added the :suffer: that Cesar forgot. :cat:

Could Haids be referring to how a lot of us here worship :suffer:. This reminds me of my really cheesy first flash movie (http://www.tage7.net/TSL/SufferQuestI/SufferQuestI.html). ::)

OBEY THE SUFFER!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

That made me laugh so hard. I guess Graham never heard 'Stranger Danger.' Great video!

That was amazing.  Oh Graham ::)

Quote from: Tage7 on May 08, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Could Haids be referring to how a lot of us here worship :suffer:. This reminds me of my really cheesy first flash movie (http://www.tage7.net/TSL/SufferQuestI/SufferQuestI.html). ::)

OBEY THE SUFFER!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

That so totally made my night.  :)

Haha, Tage, that was funny  :P

But people should not worship the suffer nor obey it, the suffer is bad, pure evil. introduced by the TSL team (or KQ9 back then) to torture the fans!  :'(

Thank you, Rob.  That's the explanation I was looking for!

Quote from: B'rrr on May 09, 2010, 12:27:47 AMBut people should not worship the suffer nor obey it, the suffer is bad, pure evil. introduced by the TSL team (or KQ9 back then) to torture the fans!  :'(

:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

As Official Shadows Beta Tester (ret.) I would like to say the use of :suffer: is strictly reserved for those active in the team.

Quote from: copycat on June 09, 2010, 04:54:16 PM
As Official Shadows Beta Tester (ret.) I would like to say the use of :suffer: is strictly reserved for those active in the team.

do I have permission to use the suffer?

I know things that people don't know. :suffer: :suffer:

I am the leader (I think.  although I haven't really talked to waltz on the subject) of save TSL.

Yes Atec you are the leader and I do think we can use the suffer.

If you have to ask or think you can use it, you clearly can not! *nod*nod*

I'd sya so Atec. You know.....things!  :suffer: :suffer:

I know things too!

When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?

Quote from: waltzdancing on June 09, 2010, 06:56:28 PM
Yes Atec you are the leader and I do think we can use the suffer.

Yay!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

Quote from: GoneTooLong on June 10, 2010, 05:51:37 AM
When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?

lol.

probably pretty soon at this rate.  the suffers keep getting bigger and bigger.

Quote from: Tage7 on June 10, 2010, 05:00:01 AM
I know things too!

So do I! !!!
For example: [spoiler]You didn't really think I was going to reveal anything, did you? :suffer:[/spoiler]

Quote from: atec123 on June 10, 2010, 06:46:05 AM

Quote from: GoneTooLong on June 10, 2010, 05:51:37 AM
When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?

lol.

probably pretty soon at this rate.  the suffers keep getting bigger and bigger.

Lol! I'm innocent! :angel:

How ironic, so am I. :P

:suffer:

Quote from: Yonkey on June 18, 2010, 07:37:45 PM
How ironic, so am I. :P

:suffer:

Innocent? Or getting bigger? :P

Both. XD