Ok,
First off. PRAISE THE LORD THAT THIS HAS FINALLY ARRIVED!
I had fun and can't wait to get into the real adventuring in episode 2. I imagine this episode being as short and lacking in actual game-play as it was, because of it being just an intro. I'm eagerly awaiting the real game.
Now - Onto my real question.
What's with the guy with the lisp??? I wish I made note of who it was, I'm pretty sure "Jesse Cox"? But whoever did the voice for the Father of the Groom, the silly hat he was wearing with wings. That guy! I think he did the old soothsayer whatever the heck at the end.
Was that some inside joke with the voice actors? Does the sound designer really not know what a "de-esser" is? Seriously?
I thought it was hilarious, but it took me out of the moment. I may have to turn off voice dialog completely in Episode 2 if that guy is doing more voice acting. Wow.
Anyway, great job and can't wait to play more!
-Ascender
I have to agree. I don't remember who the voice actor was, but he did the voice for King Oberon and the Arch Druid. I liked all of the voice actors for the other characters. I found them to be, for lack of a better word, "fitting". Even the voice actors for the Guard Dogs did a great job. I just couldn't understand how the voice actor for King Oberon/Arch Druid was picked. Not to say the voice actor was bad at what he was doing, but I think a casting director should know what voice would fit with what character. In KQ7, King Oberon had a thunderous voice, much like Zeus from the God of War series. Arch Druid in KQ6 had more of a elder, wise tone in his voice. Much like the voice of the other druid that warned Graham to not go sailing in the abnormal storm. Even then, the Arch Druid seemed to be darker skinned in this game, not to start a racial discussion, but I would imagine a voice would fit the ethnicity of the character as well.
All this being said, the voice actors (from what I'm told) have already been picked for the entire series of episodes, but I wanted to express my two cents.
I personally found the Arch Druid to be a fine casting decision. I noticed that the voice sounded familiar, but not enough to take me out of the moment. Oberon however, kinda bothered me, a lot. It just sounded really, really weird. Not to mention the fact that Titania is pronounced tie-TAIN-ia, and the fact that he couldn't pronounce his wife's name had me screaming at the screen every time it came up. ::)
The pronunciation of Titania's name annoyed me too, but I'm just admitting to myself that there may be many things that will quirk me and my KQ fanboyism. Regardless, I'm sure the story will more than make up for it. ;D
Quote from: Fierce Deity on July 15, 2010, 02:56:06 AM
The pronunciation of Titania's name annoyed me too, but I'm just admitting to myself that there may be many things that will quirk me and my KQ fanboyism. Regardless, I'm sure the story will more than make up for it. ;D
I thought the way they pronounced Titania was odd too but it didn't bug me at all mainly because it's been a while since I heard anyone say it and I thought I might have remembered it differently. I'm glad I'm noy the only one.
But yeah I didn't think that the voice acting for Oberon or the Arch Druid was bad
I liked him as the druid, but I thought Oberon was pretty bad too. :-\
I'm going to have to go back and listen to Oberon. The funny thing is that, as a speech therapist, I usually pick up on lisps...and I didn't with him.
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 15, 2010, 10:16:25 AM
I'm going to have to go back and listen to Oberon. The funny thing is that, as a speech therapist, I usually pick up on lisps...and I didn't with him.
He didn't have a lisp, he just had an accentuated 's' in his speech.
Am I the only one who ever found it cruel that a word describing a speech impediment that particularly affects the letter "S"... Has an S in it?
Lithp.
Also, totally never knew you were a speech therapist Cat, that's really cool! I actually had to have a speech therapist as a kid, so it's kinda cool to know one in my adult years.
Quote from: MangoMercury on July 15, 2010, 10:27:53 AM
Am I the only one who ever found it cruel that a word describing a speech impediment that particularly affects the letter "S"... Has an S in it?
Lithp.
Also, totally never knew you were a speech therapist Cat, that's really cool! I actually had to have a speech therapist as a kid, so it's kinda cool to know one in my adult years.
Aww...thank you :)
And did you know that the trouble pronouncing r-sounds is called rhotacism. How cruel is that?
Lisp - trouble with s
Rhotacism - trouble with r
I think I might have had some form of rhotacism. I also had a bit of speech therapy, back in preschool. I think one of my problem words was "crayon", which I pronounced more like "cran" or maybe "cwan".
I have a slight lisp aswell, in dutch it is called; slis, has 2 s' in it! Though it ain't as bad Dyslexia, i never be able to spell that word correctly :-\
The one I had trouble with when I was young was 'th'; couldn't say three properly, said it "free".
he speaks like Crispin(sp) from KQ5 actually didnt anyone notice
But you spelt it correctly there, Rob!
I still think it's mean to make light of people's speech problems by making the names of their impairments contain the letters they have issues with.
Quote from: The Hero on July 15, 2010, 12:06:55 PM
he speaks like Crispin(sp) from KQ5 actually didnt anyone notice
Err... Were you supposed to put some more text under your quote?
It's not so much a lisp, it's what we call a "Sibilant S" -- I don't know if that's the actual term or not -- but it's what Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris is (partly) about. When I hear people talk with them (other than myself, I have one :P) all I can think of is the chapter where he writes about being forced into speech therapy by his school, and he spends the whole time trying to avoid the letter "s" with his therapist... and finally she tricks him into saying "I'm sorry."
And, yes, Hero, Crispin also has a sibilant s in KQ5. A lot of people do though.
no im not pointing out his speech error im pointing out that i totally think its him
Hey may sound like Crispin (I can't recall what Crispin sounded like, personally), but no, it's not the same actor.
Crithpin.
Quote from: crayauchtin on July 15, 2010, 12:47:11 PM
It's not so much a lisp, it's what we call a "Sibilant S" -- I don't know if that's the actual term or not -- but it's what Me Talk Pretty One Day by David Sedaris is (partly) about. When I hear people talk with them (other than myself, I have one :P) all I can think of is the chapter where he writes about being forced into speech therapy by his school, and he spends the whole time trying to avoid the letter "s" with his therapist... and finally she tricks him into saying "I'm sorry."
And, yes, Hero, Crispin also has a sibilant s in KQ5. A lot of people do though.
So what exactly IS a sibilant s? :P
Well, a lisp is more of a "th" instead of an "s" -- like we've been saying (see "Crithpin" above, thanks Mango!) whereas a sibiliant s is more of an emphasis on the s. Maybe I'll record myself saying "emphasis" and post it -- that will definitely demonstrate it. :P
Quote from: MangoMercury on July 15, 2010, 12:34:50 PM
But you spelt it correctly there, Rob!
I looked it up ::)
You all crack me up ;D
But you can't deny that it sounds a little..."fabulous". Whoever Jesse Cox is (what a fitting name) needs to tone down his "s"es or the recording engineer needs to use a HEAVY de-esser on em'!
Sure sure, speech impediments are a part of every day life. But it's like adding shtick when none is needed.
It's just a weird image for me, of a wise man or "arch druid" that sounds like he's about to break into a sweatin' to the 80s video.
ALRIGHT GRAHAM, LETH GET THAT BOOTY MOVIN'!! YOU THEXY KING YOU!
Don't you mean...
FABULOUTH?
(You're welcome, Cray!)
No, he means fabuloussss. Like I keep saying, it's sibilant, not a lisp. :P
how do you call when soemone makes a sssch sound then?
I definitely felt the voice actor for the arch druid was poorly cast. You've got this tall african dude with a cheetah on his head and he talks like a fruit. Absolutely stood out IMO.
Hi Grahamsth! I'm going to send you on a questht! Find thesthe five itemth, and don't forget you need a magical brown sack! Tee Hee. Toodleloo!
Sounded more nasally than it sounded like he had a lisp of some kind. It was all coming from his nose. I can get past it, though.
That's funny. The AD is one of my fav actors in the game. His job as Oberon is nothing out of this world, but then again, he didn't have much lines to work with.
With the AD, I think he did a phenomenal job. He has that "father figure" to Graham, guiding him through his quests. Maybe I'm just in love of the opening sequence of ep 2 ;)
I just picture the arch druid speaking more like Morgan Freeman than Perez Hilton.
I had Rhotacism when I was younger. I went through many sessions of therapy to correct it just to find out that I physically couldn't pronounce 'r' because my tongue was too short to reach the back of my mouth to pronounce the 'r' sound. They wanted to perform oral surgery to make my tongue longer, but then I would have looked like Gene Simmons.
I'll try to explain again, it was already said as sibilant, but in layman's terms I would describe it as a 'hiss' like that of a snake. It's just an 's' that is accentuated. It's easier to just see someone differentiate the sounds, but the 'hiss' comparison is the closest I can get to an explanation without making a video of myself pronouncing words with a sibilant 's'.
i dont know what the tsl team thinks about modding...
but i happen to think oberon sounds better after changing the pitch down from C to B with audacity.
i really like the voice acting from graham and the narrator.
Quote from: Ebenezer on July 15, 2010, 07:29:53 PM
I just picture the arch druid speaking more like Morgan Freeman than Perez Hilton.
While certain roles might have steroetype voices it doesn't mean that everyone in such a position has a corresponding voice. it is not the voice that usually gets a person to such position but other qualities he/she posseses.
Quote from: B'rrr on July 15, 2010, 08:49:48 PMit is not the voice that usually gets a person to such position but other qualities he/she posseses.
Qualities like a lisp?
was more thinking something along the lines of that said person is better in boiling intruders then any other druid ::)
Quote from: Ebenezer on July 15, 2010, 07:29:53 PM
I just picture the arch druid speaking more like Morgan Freeman than Perez Hilton.
Come on, like nobody less obnoxious than Perez has a sibilant "s". ::)
....that being said, I can't think of anyone else who's famous who does either. :P
Quote from: crayauchtin on July 16, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
... a sibilant "s". ::)...
wait... what other kind of "s" is there? ??? I mean, I guess there's probably an ejective version... :-\
César - I think you missed the "Suffer" smilie; we ended up with a mere wink.
What other kind of S is there, Delling?
LITHPY ETHH
Quote from: MangoMercury on July 16, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
What other kind of S is there, Delling?
LITHPY ETHH
I don't know. I was asking Cray. :-\
don't you guys think your being a little nasty to poor im sure he cant help it anymore then i can help being in a wheelchair
Quote from: MangoMercury on July 16, 2010, 06:41:48 PM
César - I think you missed the "Suffer" smilie; we ended up with a mere wink.
I bet he has some evil sceme going on, trying to look all nice and such and then suddenly shower us with suffers when we do not expect it :-\
I just saw this thread and rather agree. :P I'm sure the vast majority of us have or had speech impediments or annoying ticks. I agree that he perhaps wasn't the best choice as Oberon, but that's because I find his voice a bit weak and grating, but I'm sure not everyone is quite so sensitive and some might well like him in that role.
It was the nasal sounds that bugged me. And he sounds nothing like the Arch Druid from KQ6. In fact that character seemed totally changed from what I saw him as in KQ6. I've never heard Oberon's voice in KQ7 (I never did like that game so I never played it) so I can't comment on that. But he just sounded too nasally for my taste. But it's a free game with spare-time contributors. So it's not game-breaking for me.
Quote from: MangoMercury on July 15, 2010, 12:34:50 PM
But you spelt it correctly there, Rob!
I still think it's mean to make light of people's speech problems by making the names of their impairments contain the letters they have issues with.
Well, the word "rhotacism" describes the condition. "Rho" is the Greek "R". :P It's kind of impossible to describe a condition without expressing what it is. :P
that is not true, you could just make up a completely random word and say their meaning is something. if instead of the word rhotacism everyone from now on used blaat for the condition it would solve everything.
You can hear Oberon here (about 6:30 or so);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9OGRcAjCWc
Quite a bit different imo.
Here is Arch Druid (about 1:30 in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39hePe_idqc
BTW, some of us may not think the guy's voice is right for the part, but in no way does that make it right for anyone to insult anyone for their disabilities or speech impediments... That just isn't right...
How were we insulting people for their disabilities or speech impediments?
I have a lisp, I feel insulted!
Shame on you cat! :'( :'(
Naw, not really! I mean, not feeling insulted, do have a slight lisp.
Quote from: B'rrr on July 23, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
I have a lisp, I feel insulted!
Shame on you cat! :'( :'(
Naw, not really! I mean, not feeling insulted, do have a slight lisp.
lol, I remember that from previous conversations with you. Gosh, has it been 5 or 6 years since we chatted on MSN?? Anyway, being a speech therapist, I actually fight for my students and jump on people's cases when my kiddos ARE made fun of!
The Hero said;
Quotedon't you guys think your being a little nasty to poor im sure he cant help it anymore then i can help being in a wheelchair
I believe mostly everyone in this thread has been discussing the speech impediments, as well the other ways of speaking, in a tone that is reminiscent of the forums. You see Cray and Mango bantering back and forth, so yeah, I can see how that might come across as a little rude if you are unfamiliar with the forums. And several people in the thread have talked about how they had speech impediments growing up. Heck, I had to be retaught how to speak! It wasn't just one or two speech sounds in error, but practically every sound I said was wrong!
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 23, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
Quote from: B'rrr on July 23, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
I have a lisp, I feel insulted!
Shame on you cat! :'( :'(
Naw, not really! I mean, not feeling insulted, do have a slight lisp.
lol, I remember that from previous conversations with you. Gosh, has it been 5 or 6 years since we chatted on MSN?? Anyway, being a speech therapist, I actually fight for my students and jump on people's cases when my kiddos ARE made fun of!
Fight for your students, eh? Do you punch the bullies so hard in the face, that you give them speech impediments?
Quote from: Fierce Deity on July 23, 2010, 07:13:02 AM
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 23, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
Quote from: B'rrr on July 23, 2010, 06:41:43 AM
I have a lisp, I feel insulted!
Shame on you cat! :'( :'(
Naw, not really! I mean, not feeling insulted, do have a slight lisp.
lol, I remember that from previous conversations with you. Gosh, has it been 5 or 6 years since we chatted on MSN?? Anyway, being a speech therapist, I actually fight for my students and jump on people's cases when my kiddos ARE made fun of!
Fight for your students, eh? Do you punch the bullies so hard in the face, that you give them speech impediments?
ROFFLE! Not quite! During the school year, I had one child that just had a hard time saying his sounds...a severe speech impediment. I had another student who would giggle when the other was talking. I had a rule that we don't laugh at each other because all of us are working on our speech. You should've seen some of the looks I gave the child! I was like "OH NO YOU DON'T!" We even had a little "heart-to-heart" at the end of class one day, because I was done with his laughter.
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 23, 2010, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: Fierce Deity on July 23, 2010, 07:13:02 AM
Fight for your students, eh? Do you punch the bullies so hard in the face, that you give them speech impediments?
ROFFLE! Not quite! During the school year, I had one child that just had a hard time saying his sounds...a severe speech impediment. I had another student who would giggle when the other was talking. I had a rule that we don't laugh at each other because all of us are working on our speech. You should've seen some of the looks I gave the child! I was like "OH NO YOU DON'T!" We even had a little "heart-to-heart" at the end of class one day, because I was done with his laughter.
That's good. It can be hard on a kid when they have to work through their obstacles and then have other kids laugh at their shortcomings. Besides creating a complex, it's just down-right rude to make fun of them. It's good to hear there are people who stand up for those kids.
bleh, just grab the biggest bully and beat him up, that is what i did ;)
Wasn't the let's player Hercrabbiness going to do work on this game? Did she do one of the voices?
Quote from: sahara on July 24, 2010, 05:38:00 AM
Wasn't the let's player Hercrabbiness going to do work on this game? Did she do one of the voices?
I love her id like to know that 2
I couldn't tell you--not won't, but can't! I don't know what her real name is, so while she might be one of the voices we got from online auditions, I'm not sure.
Quote from: KatieHal on July 24, 2010, 01:10:40 PM
I couldn't tell you--not won't, but can't! I don't know what her real name is, so while she might be one of the voices we got from online auditions, I'm not sure.
Laura Waisanen :P
Just throwing my two cents into the pot: I was also put off by Oberon's voice, particularly because he sounds absolutely nothing like he does in KQ7, not even close. The lisp or whatever it was didn't even bother me that much; it was just that his voice isn't as deep and powerful as Timothy White's (the voice of the original Oberon and Feldspar). Just dropping it down a couple octaves would probably make it a lot better, though it's more than likely too late for that now.
It's just what happens when he comes over into our world.
Haha! Okay then, that makes sense. ;)
Quote from: Enchantermon on July 25, 2010, 02:21:55 PMJust dropping it down a couple octaves would probably make it a lot better, though it's more than likely too late for that now.
A couple octaves? Doing that even to a woman's voice would make it no longer recognizable as human speech.
Here's what Oberon's voice would sound like (http://www.zshare.net/audio/78681172a670ef96/) if it was dropped three semitones (a quarter of an octave). Better perhaps, but there really isn't a way to get rid of the nasal element.
Quote from: shadyparadox on July 25, 2010, 07:46:07 PMA couple octaves? Doing that even to a woman's voice would make it no longer recognizable as human speech.
I was being partially facetious. A music major I am not. The point was that dropping it down would help.
Quote from: shadyparadox on July 25, 2010, 07:46:07 PMHere's what Oberon's voice would sound like (http://www.zshare.net/audio/78681172a670ef96/) if it was dropped three semitones (a quarter of an octave). Better perhaps, but there really isn't a way to get rid of the nasal element.
Oh, that's
loads better. You can kind of tell that it's been tampered with, but other than that, he sounds a lot more like the Oberon from KQ7.
I'm musically inclined, so I had a knee-jerk reaction with the "couple of octaves" suggestion. Haha.
Quote from: kindofdoon on July 27, 2010, 08:58:10 AM
I'm musically inclined, so I had a knee-jerk reaction with the "couple of octaves" suggestion. Haha.
Same here. People don't seem to realize what an octave is when they use it in discussion. But when you illustrate what an octave is, it makes a lot more sense.