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Title: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on August 26, 2010, 04:59:46 PM
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Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: wilco64256 on August 26, 2010, 05:05:14 PM
Graham appears to be wearing Levi's in that first shot.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Baggins on August 26, 2010, 05:11:05 PM
He looks like a lumberjack....

He probably works all day.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
LOL, oh man! Yeah, we tried to slightly touch up his look and the overwhelming feedback was just that, Weldon--why is Graham wearing jeans?

Far indeed! I saw an image that was the very first 3D concept, I think, from when Rich pitched his case to make the game 3D in the first place. I should see if I can find that, 'cause wow, what a difference!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on August 26, 2010, 05:28:55 PM
That's truly a piece of history. I would really love to see it if you can find it.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on August 26, 2010, 07:41:45 PM
LOL, thanks for sharing, Doon. :) What a crack up to see the amazing differences...especially Graham's cowboy pants. :P
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: colin on August 26, 2010, 08:55:58 PM
Hmm fascinating looking at the oracle scene it appears graham is dipping his hands in the sacred pool.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: TheReturnofDMD on August 26, 2010, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
LOL, oh man! Yeah, we tried to slightly touch up his look and the overwhelming feedback was just that, Weldon--why is Graham wearing jeans?

You guys actually intended on him looking like that? Or did you mean it was an accident that he had his shirt tucked in? Just wondering.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 10:11:23 PM
I believe the idea was to make his tunic less tunic-like and more shirt-like, and in the end it just looked like he was wearing jeans.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Lambonius on August 26, 2010, 10:14:45 PM
Quote from: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 10:11:23 PM
I believe the idea was to make his tunic less tunic-like and more shirt-like, and in the end it just looked like he was wearing jeans.

I can't really understand the logic behind why you'd want to do that, to be perfectly honest.  I mean, wouldn't that clearly make him look much LESS like a fantasy character?  ;)  Then again, I suppose that's why it didn't make the cut.  :)

Actually, come to think of it, considering you guys are going for the "dark fantasy" route, I'm surprised you didn't pull a Twilight Princess Link-type update of his costume, with a visible chainmail layer underneath and rougher stitching and stuff.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
You really do love heated debates, huh, Lambonius? :P Or in this case, maybe I should say trying to get one going. ;)

I couldn't say what the process was behind the idea, not being in on it at the time, but it was obviously ditched--and just as obvious, I should think, is that we were never going to stray that far from Graham's classic outfit.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Lambonius on August 26, 2010, 11:55:37 PM
Quote from: KatieHal on August 26, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
You really do love heated debates, huh, Lambonius? :P Or in this case, maybe I should say trying to get one going. ;)

I couldn't say what the process was behind the idea, not being in on it at the time, but it was obviously ditched--and just as obvious, I should think, is that we were never going to stray that far from Graham's classic outfit.

Heh--sometimes I just can't help myself.  ;)

Actually, I think a Zelda Twilight Princess-inspired revamp of the Graham outfit would make for an interesting concept piece--I always had a hard time believing the idea of Graham as a knight--it'd be interesting to see him in some kind of costume that incorporated armor elements.  Anyway--I was just speculating.  Looking back at my earlier comment, I realize it maybe came off as kinda snarky and sarcastic.  Not really my intention in this particular case, so I'm sorry about that--but then I certainly admit to a bit of rabble-rousing from time to time.  :)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:24:17 AM
I have been meaning to ask, im not sure on how much you guys know about Rigging Characters and Scenes from Games, then Use them through Pictures with Other Characters for Fun.

Could we Rig TSL and Use them for Fun, you guys should See the Images we use at the tombraiderforums

From Resident Evil Characters to Final Fantasy Characters and Mario Characters, we even have a Sonic the Hedghog Character.

If i have an Owl and Graham Character, i would do a Scene where Graham is Cooking his Lunch: Graham Watch Out, a Poisonus Bird.  :P
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Lambonius on August 27, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:24:17 AM
I have been meaning to ask, im not sure on how much you guys know about Rigging Characters and Scenes from Games, then Use them through Pictures with Other Characters for Fun.

Could we Rig TSL and Use them for Fun, you guys should See the Images we use at the tombraiderforums

From Resident Evil Characters to Final Fantasy Characters and Mario Characters, we even have a Sonic the Hedghog Character.

If i have an Owl and Graham Character, i would do a Scene where Graham is Cooking his Lunch: Graham Watch Out, a Poisonus Bird.  :P

So uh...what's with the completely random capitalizations?   ???
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
Thats how Weird i am, i dont know why i do that HA HA HA HA

Here is a Tomb Raider Underworld Character im turning Into King Graham.  :P
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6669/83043743.jpg)
Here is some random screen from a Character with a Giant Fish from Guardian of Light. ;)
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5151/chompysurprise.jpg)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 12:46:37 AM
Quote from: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
Thats how Weird i am, i dont know why i do that HA HA HA HA

Well, there you go, I guess...
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Fierce Deity on August 27, 2010, 12:49:50 AM
Quote from: Lambonius on August 26, 2010, 10:14:45 PM
Actually, come to think of it, considering you guys are going for the "dark fantasy" route, I'm surprised you didn't pull a Twilight Princess Link-type update of his costume, with a visible chainmail layer underneath and rougher stitching and stuff.

Hey, I liked Twilight Princess.  :(

Quote from: Lambonius on August 26, 2010, 11:55:37 PM
Actually, I think a Zelda Twilight Princess-inspired revamp of the Graham outfit would make for an interesting concept piece

Forgiven.  ;)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on August 27, 2010, 06:05:42 AM
No problem, Lambonius. :)

It would be kinda interesting to see Graham in actual armor, from his younger days though. Get to see just how dashing a knight Graham was!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: snabbott on August 27, 2010, 08:35:09 AM
Quote from: Baggins on August 26, 2010, 05:11:05 PM
He looks like a lumberjack....

He probably works all day.
XD
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: wilco64256 on August 27, 2010, 09:01:15 AM
Isn't that giant fish thing from Resident Evil 4?
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on August 27, 2010, 09:09:02 AM
Quote from: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:24:17 AM
I have been meaning to ask, im not sure on how much you guys know about Rigging Characters and Scenes from Games, then Use them through Pictures with Other Characters for Fun.

Could we Rig TSL and Use them for Fun, you guys should See the Images we use at the tombraiderforums

Well, you seem to be doing so already, daventry. :) I don't think we're going to be releasing models or something, but whatever fan works you want to make and show off, you're welcome to do so in the Express Your Creativity! (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=68.0) sub-forum, so long as it's not inappropriate.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on August 27, 2010, 09:24:11 AM
I dont really know how to rig stuff, i just thought you guys would know how or some Fans here would start, read this. ;)
http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=8807.msg283804#msg283804
Quote from: wilco64256 on August 27, 2010, 09:01:15 AM
Isn't that giant fish thing from Resident Evil 4?
Ha ha ha ha ha, Nooo.  :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p524a_ilcrc
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: wilco64256 on August 27, 2010, 09:49:45 AM
Interesting - I'm going to say that I think the GoL designers got their idea for that boss from this one in RE4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpLYTY-8op8
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on August 27, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
This is a Fish  :o

(http://i48.tinypic.com/33ww9xs.jpg)

We have Allot of Resident Evil Models on the Tombraiderforums, but Sadly Most of them are Not Posable. :(
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Cez on August 27, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
We do have a Rosella in some sort of armor somewhere. I remember someone designed her and made her and when I saw her the first thing I thought was "Final Fantasy". (The second thing I thought was "no").

We haven't updated the Fan Club in a while.  Maybe we should do Rosella next. Katie, bug me about it :) People, bug Katie to bug me about it :)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 03:05:34 PM
Kate! Bug Cez immediately! :say:
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: wilco64256 on August 27, 2010, 03:24:01 PM
The second thing I thought was "no").

Quote of the day.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: BrothersGrim on August 27, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
Wow, how old are those photos? :P
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: snabbott on August 27, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 03:05:34 PM
Kate! Bug Cez immediately! :say:
Yeah - and make him find that Rosella-in-armor picture for us!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 05:37:25 PM
Some time before June 2006. That's the most accurate I can be.

EDIT: Some time before August 2005.

EDIT: 2004 or earlier.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on September 03, 2010, 01:18:48 PM
What can i use to rip Scenes and stuff from TSL, 3D Ripper and how do i use it.  ???

I hope im Allowed.  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: The Hero on September 03, 2010, 04:29:53 PM
Quote from: daventry on August 27, 2010, 12:42:57 AM
Thats how Weird i am, i dont know why i do that HA HA HA HA

Here is a Tomb Raider Underworld Character im turning Into King Graham.  :P
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6669/83043743.jpg)
Here is some random screen from a Character with a Giant Fish from Guardian of Light. ;)
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5151/chompysurprise.jpg)
THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE MJ TRAIL OUTFIT 1005 WITH GRAPHAMS FACE AND HAT lmaO
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: kindofdoon on September 03, 2010, 04:57:57 PM
Quote from: daventry on September 03, 2010, 01:18:48 PM
What can i use to rip Scenes and stuff from TSL, 3D Ripper and how do i use it.  ???

I hope im Allowed.  :-[ :-[ :-[

What do you mean by "rip Scenes and stuff from TSL, 3D Ripper"?
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: daventry on September 03, 2010, 05:09:40 PM
I mean that allot of People rip things from Games and make wonderful screens with them. ;)

If you know Tomb Raider, theres a Forum where we use Models from Resident Evil, Mario, Sonic, Ariel from the Little Mermaid and we make Awsome Screens. :)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 05, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: snabbott on August 27, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 03:05:34 PM
Kate! Bug Cez immediately! :say:
Yeah - and make him find that Rosella-in-armor picture for us!
HEY!  I've been scanning through some (really) old posts and found this one.  What gives?  Katie!  I wanna see Rosella in armor!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on January 06, 2011, 06:13:59 AM
I'm actually not sure if that's real or if it was a joke! Hmm...
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: snabbott on January 06, 2011, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: Haids1987 on January 05, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
Quote from: snabbott on August 27, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: kindofdoon on August 27, 2010, 03:05:34 PM
Kate! Bug Cez immediately! :say:
Yeah - and make him find that Rosella-in-armor picture for us!
HEY!  I've been scanning through some (really) old posts and found this one.  What gives?  Katie!  I wanna see Rosella in armor!
August is really old? :P
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Enchantermon on January 06, 2011, 09:22:41 AM
Sure it is! Heck, that post was made all the way back in the last year! ;)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 06, 2011, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: snabbott on January 06, 2011, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: Haids1987 on January 05, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
HEY!  I've been scanning through some (really) old posts and found this one.  What gives?  Katie!  I wanna see Rosella in armor!
August is really old? :P
Haha, I meant that I was digging through the Archives (waaaaay back in 2003ish) and I found this one in my wanderings.
Quote from: KatieHal on January 06, 2011, 06:13:59 AM
I'm actually not sure if that's real or if it was a joke! Hmm...
Well if it was a joke I DEMAND a drawing!  Cez!  Get on it! :whip:
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: waltzdancing on January 14, 2011, 10:52:36 PM
If you want Cez to draw it, it will take him away from working on the game. Bug him after Episode 3 is released, you might get more results that way
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 15, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
Sound logic. :yes:

I accept.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Cez on January 23, 2011, 01:51:46 AM
This is one
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Cez on January 23, 2011, 01:53:48 AM
There's another one where there's more of an armor. And then there's Marylin Manson Rosella.

I noticed we haven't done a concept art update in the fan club in a while. Get Katie to bug me and we can do one this week.
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Delling on January 23, 2011, 05:06:59 AM
*reread thread to see if there was any mention of WHY Rosella was in armor and/or if the same was done with anyone else*

*agrees with Cez that it'd make an interesting Final Fantasy but is a "no" for KQ*

*realizes this entire thread happened while he was on vacation in Europe last year (IHRC), so he missed it*

*has to comment on something*

Quote from: colin on August 26, 2010, 08:55:58 PM
Hmm fascinating looking at the oracle scene it appears graham is dipping his hands in the sacred pool.

And the oracle is going "OMGWTF-FOPMUFFINBBQ! GET YOUR HANDS OUT OF THERE!"

Also,also,

KATIE! GET CEZ ON TEH PR/FAN CLUB BALL, KTHXBAI!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 23, 2011, 01:28:54 PM
Yaaaay!  Thank you, Cez!  I will now save that picture to My Pictures...

...and hey, did you draw that just because we demanded it? :smitten:
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: KatieHal on January 23, 2011, 04:56:55 PM
Wow. I definitely feel like I've never seen that picture before...or at least I sure don't remember it! But yes, much more Final Fantasy-esque than KQ-esque. And horribly impractical for armor, too!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Cez on January 23, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
No, I didn't draw it. Couldnt draw to save my life. Forget who did this one. Always reminded me of Lulu from FFX
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 23, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
Well, it's awesome and pretty much exactly what we asked for. :)  Thank you!
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: snabbott on January 23, 2011, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: Cez on January 23, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
No, I didn't draw it. Couldnt draw to save my life. Forget who did this one. Always reminded me of Lulu from FFX
Just a guess, but since it says "by: kim saastamoinen," I'm thinking that might be who. :P (Now, who that is, I haven't a clue.)
Title: Re: Look how far TSL has come
Post by: Haids1987 on January 23, 2011, 11:04:46 PM
Just a guess, but since it says "by: kim saastamoinen," I'm thinking that might be who. :P (Now, who that is, I haven't a clue.)
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:rofl:  I was too busy oogling the majesty of Rosie in armor that I didn't even look at that!