I am writing a letter to LucasArts, asking them to uncancel Sam and Max: Freelance Police. Here is a draft of the letter I am sending them:
To Whom It May Concern,
I, (insert name here), am writing this letter to express my disappointment with LucasArts' cancellation of Sam and Max: Freelance Police. This game was much anticipated by fans of the Sam and Max series, and while Telltale has acquired the rights to the Sam and Max franchise and released sixteen episodes of their own, I feel that none of them have the charm the original Sam and Max games once had. I am also concerned with the casting, since neither Bill Farmer nor Nick Jameson have been invited back to reprise their roles as Sam and Max, respectively. Instead, the roles were given to cheap substitute actors who I feel did not do justice to the series. Also, in one episode, "The City That Dares Not Sleep", the original voice actors were impersonated by the current ones, and I felt that was disrespectful.
It is because of this that I implore LucasArts to reconsider its decision to cancel Freelance Police, and allow production of the game to continue. The project has a long history of hard work and is both well-known and well-respected throughout the gaming industry. LucasArts may also potentially gain financially from this project.
In addition, I request that LucasArts also rerelease Sam and Max Hit the Road in the United States of America. I know that you no longer have the license to Sam and Max, but I request that you do this anyway.
I appreciate a response to this message within a week.
Thank you,
(insert name here)
What do you think? Should I change something, or is the letter fine the way it is?
What exactly do you hope to accomplish by sending this letter. I don't see Lucas Arts going back to adventure games. Unless you count the monkey island special editions, but they could just be a one time deal.
You never know. If enough fans show enough interest in something surprising things can happen.
Quote from: wilco64256 on October 19, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
You never know. If enough fans show enough interest in something surprising things can happen.
(Example: both C&Ds for you guys)
Quote from: wilco64256 on October 19, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
You never know. If enough fans show enough interest in something surprising things can happen.
That's true, don't let me dissuade you, BA. As far as your letter, it could be a bit more polite, a little less demanding. And back up some of your claims with evidence, show some numbers perhaps. Telltale are doing some great things with the Sam and Max and the Monkey Island franchises. As far as Lucas Arts are concerned this is a success, show them your views are not of the minority. I can only tell you, my bro, liked the Telltale games better than the original. Try to get more people to back up your cause.
Yeah - a letter from one person probably won't do much. If you can start a campaign like they did with Save TSL - who knows? I would suggest making it more polite, though. For example, I wouldn't use the term "cheap subsitiute actors."
Also, have you verified that the original actors would even *want* to reprise their roles?
I wouldn't insult the new actors. In a letter like this, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to maintain a professional demeanor. The rest of your letter does that, but calling the new actors cheap substitutes will not help your case.
Also I would try to send it to both LucasArts and TellTale. TTG are the ones making and casting the games now, after all.
Quote from: KatieHal on October 19, 2010, 04:50:40 PMI wouldn't insult the new actors. In a letter like this, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to maintain a professional demeanor. The rest of your letter does that, but calling the new actors cheap substitutes will not help your case.
Especially when discussing a largely subjective point of view.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 19, 2010, 03:35:05 PMIn addition, I request that LucasArts also rerelease Sam and Max Hit the Road in the United States of America. I know that you no longer have the license to Sam and Max, but I request that you do this anyway.
It's possible that the rights to this game went with the rights to Sam and Max. If they did, Lucasarts is obviously not going to rerelease the game, because whoever does own the rights will be on them like white on rice. A better way to put this would be to ask them to investigate options for a re-release. Again, it makes your letter sound more professional.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 19, 2010, 03:35:05 PMAlso, in one episode, "The City That Dares Not Sleep", the original voice actors were impersonated by the current ones, and I felt that was disrespectful.
This is an issue that should be taken up with TTG, not LucasArts, since employees (or contractors) of TTG were responsible for casting the new Sam and Max games. LucasArts has no control over that.
Uh...yeah... ::)
You DO realize that Lucasarts doesn't own the rights to Sam and Max at all, don't you? Steve Purcell owns the rights, and Steve Purcell is working with Telltale on the new games. Lucasarts couldn't do anything about this even if they wanted to.
I agree that I liked the original voice actors a little better, but this is just a misguided pipe dream.
Err.....you're about 8 years too late. There's no way Freelance Police is gonna come out now. Besides, Telltale Games (made up of members who left LucasArts after that time) took half the ideas from Freelance Police and put them into Sam & Max Season One (Save the World). A lot of the things you're addressing can't really be asked of LucasArts anymore but Telltale. LucasArts haven't had anything to do with Sam & Max for about a decade. They don't own it. They never did. The rights have always belonged solely to Steve Purcell, its creator. They are not in charge of anything Telltale has done with regards to Sam & Max. But again, Telltale are made up of people who left LucasArts after FP was canceled, so Sam and Max are in good hands. Just get the current games and enjoy them. FP will never see the light of day. Accept it.
In short, no you shouldn't send this letter. Very little of it is relevant to LucasArts anyway at this point with the only thing they could probably do being to rerelease Hit the Road somehow.
Quote from: MusicallyInspired on October 19, 2010, 07:19:57 PM
Err.....you're about 8 years too late. There's no way Freelance Police is gonna come out now. Besides, Telltale Games (made up of members who left LucasArts after that time) took half the ideas from Freelance Police and put them into Sam & Max Season One (Save the World). A lot of the things you're addressing can't really be asked of LucasArts anymore but Telltale. LucasArts haven't had anything to do with Sam & Max for about a decade. They don't own it. They never did. The rights have always belonged solely to Steve Purcell, its creator. They are not in charge of anything Telltale has done with regards to Sam & Max. But again, Telltale are made up of people who left LucasArts after FP was canceled, so Sam and Max are in good hands. Just get the current games and enjoy them. FP will never see the light of day. Accept it.
In short, no you shouldn't send this letter. Very little of it is relevant to LucasArts anyway at this point with the only thing they could probably do being to rerelease Hit the Road somehow.
Must not be discouraged... must not be discouraged... must not be discouraged...
If you truly want to send it, then go for it. It's good to have realistic expectations--something may come of it, and that would be great. But it's also possible nothing will happen. And it never hurts to try! Even if you fail, you can move on knowing you've done everything you could've done.
Nothing is almost sure to happen if it gets sent to the wrong people, however. :) So making sure it goes to the right person is very key!
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 19, 2010, 09:48:35 PM
Quote from: MusicallyInspired on October 19, 2010, 07:19:57 PM
Err.....you're about 8 years too late. There's no way Freelance Police is gonna come out now. Besides, Telltale Games (made up of members who left LucasArts after that time) took half the ideas from Freelance Police and put them into Sam & Max Season One (Save the World). A lot of the things you're addressing can't really be asked of LucasArts anymore but Telltale. LucasArts haven't had anything to do with Sam & Max for about a decade. They don't own it. They never did. The rights have always belonged solely to Steve Purcell, its creator. They are not in charge of anything Telltale has done with regards to Sam & Max. But again, Telltale are made up of people who left LucasArts after FP was canceled, so Sam and Max are in good hands. Just get the current games and enjoy them. FP will never see the light of day. Accept it.
In short, no you shouldn't send this letter. Very little of it is relevant to LucasArts anyway at this point with the only thing they could probably do being to rerelease Hit the Road somehow.
Must not be discouraged... must not be discouraged... must not be discouraged...
You must not be discouraged, but MI is right - LucasArts has nothing to do with this anymore. Tell Tale and Steve Purcell are the people you should right. If you want to continue with your letter writing campaign, Spartacus, I suggest you send it to the proper people.
But I will tell you - the chances of your wishes being granted are very slim.
Bt
I just wanted to comment on this, as my views would be redundant at this point.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 19, 2010, 03:35:05 PM
I appreciate a response to this message within a week.
You -- who to LucasArts is a hohum nobody (no offense, that's not how I think of you!) -- are giving a big ol' company like LucasArts a deadline for when they should answer your letter?
If they decided to answer you within a week, I can guarantee it would probably include the words "Do not contact us again" or possibly "Stop wasting our time". Consider how much mail they probably get. You can't demand a deadline for a response from a corporation on your first correspondence with them, they'll take it as disrespectful (especially considering your tone in the rest of the letter).
If, given the other things mentioned in this thread (like the fact that LucasArts doesn't own the rights to
Sam & Max) you still decide you want to write them I would recommend rewriting the letter in its entirety or at the very least scrapping that sentence. You could replace it with "I would appreciate a response to my concerns" or "I hope to hear your thoughts on this" but that ending sentence absolutely
will not fly.
It's not about being discouraged, Bad Asp, it's about being completely and utterly unrealistic. Nothing will come of this because it isn't LucasArts' problem. Really, you guys, do you want him to make a fool of himself by encouraging him? That's pretty mean.
And the chances of your wishes being granted are significantly less than slim. As in non-existent.
I've actually heard, from people at Telltale, that the game wasn't very good either. Too many ideas going into the project to modernize it and make it available on consoles, etc. One of the guys was going to show me a copy once, but then we didn't take a look at it at the end.
Also, the people behind Freelance Police are not at LucasArts anymore. Most of them are at Telltale now. The game is very, very old and would need a full revamp. In any case, LucasArts would probably hand it to Telltale to do it, which, as someone already mentioned here, most of the ideas went to season 1 already, and I would not hold my breath on getting the original actors back. I'm not sure why Telltale didn't use them, especially since they moved mountains to get the original actors of Monkey Island to reprise their roles, so it's possible there was some sort of legal reason, or simply monetary reasons --they are certainly not cheap since they have to fly Max in everytime they need him. Sam, on the other hand, is local.
As much as I like to believe letters do work, and they worked with us, a single letter would not get anything but maybe a cordial response. Like someone else suggested, you need to go to a much higher level and organize something bigger if you want to be heard --and, like Katie said, always keep your feet on the ground! If it doesn't happen, at least you've tried! Maybe you can get them to consider doing a high-res version of the original :)
I'm pretty sure that's what I plan on doing. I know I posted this somewhere else, but I illustrated a children's alphabet book I worked on with my sister, and I hope I can get that book published. I could use the money from the book to try to work out a deal with LucasArts to maybe purchase the programming code off of them and possibly get it off their hands.
I will do anything to get that game... anything.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
I'm pretty sure that's what I plan on doing. I know I posted this somewhere else, but I illustrated a children's alphabet book I worked on with my sister, and I hope I can get that book published. I could use the money from the book to try to work out a deal with LucasArts to maybe purchase the programming code off of them and possibly get it off their hands.
I will do anything to get that game... anything.
Join telltale.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
I will do anything to get that game... anything.
Would you...get down on your hands and knees in public and bark like a dog?
Somehow I don't think that would help achieve his goals here :P
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
I will do anything to get that game... anything.
I'm pretty sure the fantasy of what the game is in your head differs vastly from what was actually produced. Nothing will match the pure, vibrating orgasm of life that is the game in your head. My suggestion to you is to get your children's book published, and save the money for something more lucrative. Like therapy.
Bt
Quote from: Blackthorne on October 20, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
I'm pretty sure the fantasy of what the game is in your head differs vastly from what was actually produced. Nothing will match the pure, vibrating orgasm of life that is the game in your head. My suggestion to you is to get your children's book published, and save the money for something more lucrative. Like therapy.
Bt
Repeat... must not get discouraged...
Quote from: atec123 on October 20, 2010, 06:25:55 AM
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
I'm pretty sure that's what I plan on doing. I know I posted this somewhere else, but I illustrated a children's alphabet book I worked on with my sister, and I hope I can get that book published. I could use the money from the book to try to work out a deal with LucasArts to maybe purchase the programming code off of them and possibly get it off their hands.
I will do anything to get that game... anything.
Join telltale.
No, take over Telltale. :P Also, don't spend your money before you have it!
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 09:23:34 AM
Would you...get down on your hands and knees in public and bark like a dog?
What would
you do for a Klondike bar? ;D
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 12:51:09 PM
Quote from: Blackthorne on October 20, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
I'm pretty sure the fantasy of what the game is in your head differs vastly from what was actually produced. Nothing will match the pure, vibrating orgasm of life that is the game in your head. My suggestion to you is to get your children's book published, and save the money for something more lucrative. Like therapy.
Bt
Repeat... must not get discouraged...
Do you have a problem with reality? I mean, seriously. Focus your energy on something useful and positive - if you really have a problem with Sam and Max by Tell Tale, you need to tell them - not LucasArts.
I mean, otherwise, you might as well be telling all of us that you've been conversing with a donkey name Johann who lives in your refrigerator, and that he has told you that drinking Pure Vegetable Oil will allow you to walk on water. Because that makes as much sense as your letter.
Must not get discouraged.... from what? Believing a lie? The cake is a lie, sir!
Bt
Let's be a little more constructive and a little less aggressive with the advice, guys.
Quote from: KatieHal on October 20, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
Let's be a little more constructive and a little less aggressive with the advice, guys.
You know, I'm trying. But I'm not going to sit here and lick the wounds of someone who's clearly acting crazy. Much well thought and well put advice has been given, and yet the trend of blustering on with original intent is still there.
I'm usually very encouraging to people, especially when it comes to supporting their aspirations regarding games. I've received many a letter, asking me how to "get involved in game making" and "how to keep going when you hit the wall" and I feel I've been very encouraging to a lot of people.
But I won't tolerate and coddle crazy - the people in this thread who encourage this guy are almost as crazy as he is. I'm sick of people being too tolerant of "crazy" in the name of being "nice" or "politically correct." I'm not saying go out and hack and slash people's dreams, but there comes a time when one has to be firm with advice and perhaps a bit harsh in order to properly focus someone else's energy.
Bad Asp is pursuing a personally created pipe-dream, and aiming his efforts at the wrong Target. It'd be like me writing Konami and telling them to make a better King's Quest 5.
Bt
There are differences between coddling, supporting someone while advising them to be realistic, and being outright rude. I'd put "do you have a problem with reality?" in the latter category. A number of people have been able to make the point that Bad Asp would be better off focusing on TellTale rather than LucasArts and that his letter may not get the results he wants without being rude about it.
Quote from: KatieHal on October 20, 2010, 02:39:38 PM
A number of people have been able to make the point that Bad Asp would be better off focusing on TellTale rather than LucasArts and that his letter may not get the results he wants without being rude about it.
And, initially, I was one of them. I told him to write Steve Purcell and/or Tell-Tale, as they are the intellectual property holders, not LucasArts. LucasArts would merely send him an advertisement for "The Force Unleashed II" and leave it at that.
Bt
I must agree with blackthorne here.
My advise: Do whatever the hell you want. You have been warned, but go ahead and try to prove it wrong if you want.
Good luck.
Why in the big blue world did you create a thread asking people what you should be doing if you've already made up your mind not to get "discouraged" by anyone who disagreed with you?
I just felt like it. Doesn't hurt to be at least honest.
That, and LucasArts has a new president now. Maybe I could get a response that's different from one a previous president would give.
I think the greater point is that LucasArts is the wrong place to direct a letter like this--the people who could actually affect a change in Sam & Max are the people at TellTale Games.
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 04:26:31 PM
I just felt like it. Doesn't hurt to be at least honest.
That, and LucasArts has a new president now. Maybe I could get a response that's different from one a previous president would give.
MI is right. It's no longer in the hands of telltale, as has been said.
If you are doing something pointless, at least do it right. :P
But seriously... don't post about it anymore. do it if you think it might work. there is some good advise in this thread. learn to take criticism properly and use it to help yourself.
This won't work, and I don't think this is the right way to go about it personally, but I wish you luck anyway.
Even if it doesn't work, trying it will still make you feel better about yourself.
You don't seem to be getting it. Let me say it again as simply as I can:
You're too late. 8 years ago maybe this would have meant something, but today it's like asking NBC to start a fourth season of Star Trek with all the original characters because they should never have canceled it. Apart from the fact that NBC doesn't own the Star Trek license anymore (and hasn't for decades), all the original actors, writers, producers, etc are unavailable because they are either dead, too old, or retired and moved on. Plus, there were a perfectly good set of Star Trek movies made that are just as good if not better than a 4th season of TOS would have been.
That's the best way I can put it. Your request is not only silly, it's impossible. This is fact. Not fiction and not opinion. Discouragement or otherwise is not going to change that fact.
Also, just to point out, I actually prefer the new voice actors to the old ones in every way. I now abdicate myself from this thread forever.
If I see no evidence to back up any claim that Freelance Police is coming back, no matter how hard I search, then I do not throw out the possibility that Freelance Police might come back eventually.
Remember, persistence brought back Silver Lining. It might bring back Freelance Police. Even if just one person alone is responsible for bringing that game back.
I'm going to think of a good letter to write to Mr. Dan Connors at Telltale. Hope he'll read it!
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 20, 2010, 07:27:55 PM
If I see no evidence to back up any claim that Freelance Police is coming back, no matter how hard I search, then I do not throw out the possibility that Freelance Police might come back eventually.
Remember, persistence brought back Silver Lining. It might bring back Freelance Police. Even if just one person alone is responsible for bringing that game back.
I'm going to think of a good letter to write to Mr. Dan Connors at Telltale. Hope he'll read it!
Persistence brought TSL back twice.
I wasn't around the first time, but the second time around, it was brought back by a small team consisting of me, waltz, and oberonqa. (I think that was it) We got a bunch of people to support it (obviously everyone here) and kept being persistent with it. it worked. In this case though, you are basically trying to get them to make a new game based on your dream/vision of the game, with no one else supporting you.
Maybe the best option would be to make it yourself.
Quote from: atec123 on October 20, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
Maybe the best option would be to make it yourself.
While I tried hard to not get involved with this discussion, I was thinking this the entire time I've been keeping up with it. The Silver Lining had it's obstacles, but it succeeded because it had a full-forced entourage of developers willing to commit to their vision. If Telltale declines your suggestion, then you are left to your own devices. It would then be time to form your own group of developers that share your dream and vision. If you want something done right, do it yourself. ;)
Clearly, everything that needed to be said about LucasArts and Freelance Police has been said, so I won't go into those topics. I do however think that sending e-mails to developers can bring solace to the minds of the concerned and worried. Whether or not the developers will listen is a different matter entirely. I haven't had much luck communicating with developers myself. I tend to get the typical, "So-and-so does not comment on rumor and speculation. For further assistance, please access our F.A.Q."
Bad Asp, if you don't want to get discouraged, I implore you to follow your original agenda. But for the sake of reality, please prepare yourself for rejection, because it will occur more likely than not. You seem determined and clearly, our warnings won't impede your focus, so do as you will. It may seem wrong to advise you to follow this "pipe-dream", but it may be the only way to learn from the experience. You won't know a stove is hot, unless you get burned. Please, take what I say with a grain of salt and a shot of tequila (unless you are underage, then a cup of lemonade will do just fine).
Oh, believe me, I plan on following my original agenda.
But I don't know if I want to do this alone... does anyone here on this forum share my vision, my desire, my want for this game? There has to be someone, whether he/she worked on Silver Lining or not, who wants what I want.
If such a person exists, I ask this person... would you like to join me and support my cause? Don't be afraid to speak up!
Sadly I've never played any of the Sam & Max games, just haven't ever gotten around to it. Once I get Kirby's Epic Yarn and New Vegas out of the way I may take a shot at some Sam & Max and see what they're like. I've always wanted to.
Yeah, same. I have a friend who swears by them, but I've never played anything beyond a demo for a PC episode whose title escapes me.
Quote from: kindofdoon on October 20, 2010, 09:01:47 PM
Yeah, same. I have a friend who swears by them, but I've never played anything beyond a demo for a PC episode whose title escapes me.
"Abe Lincoln Must Die!"? That was the demo/episode that I played, and it convinced me to buy the first season. Truly some funny stuff.
Quote from: wilco64256 on October 20, 2010, 08:57:25 PM
Sadly I've never played any of the Sam & Max games, just haven't ever gotten around to it. Once I get Kirby's Epic Yarn and New Vegas out of the way I may take a shot at some Sam & Max and see what they're like. I've always wanted to.
Off-topic, but a quick question. How's Kirby and New Vegas? Any good?
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
I still think maybe the original voice actors should be used instead. You know, since their last game as Sam and Max was canceled and everything?
Quote from: Bad Asp on October 21, 2010, 05:40:55 AM
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
I still think maybe the original voice actors should be used instead. You know, since their last game as Sam and Max was canceled and everything?
that was a long time ago. are they still around and would they still be willing?
I imagine there must be some Sam & Max-focused forums out there. You should try those, too, I would guess you'd find more people who know the games and would be interested in possibly supporting you on this.
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
You
are kidding, right?
Quote from: Enchantermon on October 21, 2010, 07:39:25 AM
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
You are kidding, right?
;)
Okay. Just checking.
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
Say, what about Jaleel White as Roger Wilco? ;) It's not too late!
Quote from: snabbott on October 21, 2010, 01:25:52 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on October 20, 2010, 10:28:52 PM
I think they should just get new voices altogether for Sam and Max. My vote would be on Bob Sagat as Sam and Jaleel White (provided he can still do a reasonable facsimile of his Urkel voice) as Max. Such underused talents, those two. I'll start up a proper petition if others think it's a good idea.
Say, what about Jaleel White as Roger Wilco? ;) It's not too late!
I wish I could have Jaleel White personally voice every main character in all the classic Sierra games. But alas...
I think we need to write a letter to Jaleel White, telling him to bring back Family Matters.
Bt
Quote from: atec123 on October 20, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
I wasn't around the first time, but the second time around, it was brought back by a small team consisting of me, waltz, and oberonqa. (I think that was it)
*cough* :P
Quote from: crayauchtin on October 21, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: atec123 on October 20, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
I wasn't around the first time, but the second time around, it was brought back by a small team consisting of me, waltz, and oberonqa. (I think that was it)
*cough* :P
*gasp* How could anyone forget you, cray? :o Wasn't David Reese involved, too?
I was a newb back then; can someone please educate me about who did what to defeat the second C&D?
Thanks.
Quote from: kindofdoon on October 21, 2010, 04:50:29 PM
I was a newb back then; can someone please educate me about who did what to defeat the second C&D?
Thanks.
Well, as I remember it: The Silver Lining Faction lined up along the border of the evil Activision Fortress. Cesar called out the command "ATTACK!!!" with a fierce and vibrant scream. As the forces charged the gates, the opposing army scattered into all directions. Bobby Kotick retreated into his office, and before he was taken hostage by Phoenix Online, he promised the gaming community a "unique, music experience" and then officially announced DJ Hero. After that, it was pretty much clear who won.
LOL
Quote from: snabbott on October 21, 2010, 04:47:39 PM
Quote from: crayauchtin on October 21, 2010, 03:03:51 PM
Quote from: atec123 on October 20, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
I wasn't around the first time, but the second time around, it was brought back by a small team consisting of me, waltz, and oberonqa. (I think that was it)
*cough* :P
*gasp* How could anyone forget you, cray? :o Wasn't David Reese involved, too?
That was oberonqa. We'd never forget about you Cray. *hugs*
Oh yeah... I thought I was forgetting someone. :P
As I recal it was like this:
Me: Website and stuff
Oberonqa: Founder/leader for a while
Waltz: sender of activision letters
Cray: I can't remember.
Then eventually oberonqa joined the Phoenix team and had to leave the save TSL team. Waltz took over as the head, then she also left and I took over.
Sounds right. It was definitely something like that.
though....
Quote from: Fierce Deity on October 21, 2010, 07:13:03 PM
Well, as I remember it: The Silver Lining Faction lined up along the border of the evil Activision Fortress. Cesar called out the command "ATTACK!!!" with a fierce and vibrant scream. As the forces charged the gates, the opposing army scattered into all directions. Bobby Kotick retreated into his office, and before he was taken hostage by Phoenix Online, he promised the gaming community a "unique, music experience" and then officially announced DJ Hero. After that, it was pretty much clear who won.
that sounds a lot cooler. :P
You did the website? Cool, I never thought I would meet its maker. But now I have!
Clarification: atec did the Save TSL website.
The new TSL website was designed by Eriq Chang (http://eriqchangstudio.com/) - not to be confused with Eric Chan (http://people.csail.mit.edu/ericchan/photos/) from Adobe.
As I recall, the first C&D ~Save KQIX ~ was coordinated by a team consisting of... pretty much Cat. :cat:
Yeah, I knew that about the current TSL website. I was referring to the Save TSL website.
Hooray for Cat!
Quote from: Blackthorne on October 21, 2010, 03:02:41 PM
I think we need to write a letter to Jaleel White, telling him to bring back Family Matters.
Bt
No no, Bt. You've got it all wrong. We need to write a letter to
Bob Sagat and tell him to bring back Family Matters.
Cat was part of the first Save KQIX team, but another big part of it was a fan by the name of Matt Compton who did a great job coordinating and directing people's efforts at the time.
I still send encouraging letters to Bill and Nick from time to time. I recently asked Bill, "will every dog have his day?", and told Nick to "hold on to his lucky rabbit's foot", using taglines based on the characters they voiced.
A little encouragement can go a long way...
Are they interested in reprising the roles...?
So, I wrote NBC and demanded that they bring back the classic TGIF Friday Night Line Up - Full House, Perfect Strangers, Family Matters and Step by Step. I expect to hear back from them soon - I've also written Patrick Duffy to tell him to hang on, I'm sure his career will re-start as soon as they bring back the show.
Bt
Hey, has anyone seen any dead horses? 'Cause I got this stick here.... :P
Quote from: KatieHal on October 22, 2010, 10:59:30 AMHey, has anyone seen any dead horses? 'Cause I got this stick here.... :P
I agree; can we stop now? Please?
Quote from: Enchantermon on October 22, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
Quote from: KatieHal on October 22, 2010, 10:59:30 AMHey, has anyone seen any dead horses? 'Cause I got this stick here.... :P
I agree; can we stop now? Please?
Have you ever beaten a dead horse with a stick? It is oddly satisfying.
My buddy owns a farm, and I've spent my fair share of time hanging out up there. About five years ago, the old nag they used to keep in the barn died. It was pretty sad, and grim because she was a nice horse, and I happened to be visiting the day she died. We went out to the barn, and found her lying on her side, cold as stone. My buddy, who has the quiet accepting farmer way about him, just said "Well, it was her time." Me, being the sarcastic and wonderful guy I am, picked up a stick from the yard, and began to whip her hind quarter.
"What the hell are you doing, man?" he asked.
"I'm beating a dead horse," I said, matter-of-factly.
We laughed, and I stopped beating the poor carcass. In hindsight, it was a little morbid. But, yeah, it's oddly satisfying.
I'm not allowed in the horse barn alone anymore.
Bt
Quote from: Blackthorne on October 22, 2010, 02:31:29 PMHave you ever beaten a dead horse with a stick? It is oddly satisfying.
No. However, what we have here is no longer a horse, but a mushy mess of what used to be a horse. So...yeah.
Seriously, guys, it's not even funny. You guys were sent PMs, and what you've been doing is extremely low. Let's start poking fun at your kidney's problems next, BT, shall we?
Enough with this charade, or we'll start banning people here.
Thank you.
Cesar
Quote from: Cez on October 22, 2010, 02:49:33 PM
Seriously, guys, it's not even funny. You guys were sent PMs, and what you've been doing is extremely low. Let's start poking fun at your kidney's problems next, BT, shall we?
Enough with this charade, or we'll start banning people here.
Thank you.
Cesar
I know, because my kidney problems are so ridiculous! I mean, I know requiring an organ transplant rates pretty high up there on the list of amusing topics. I knew this guy who needed a liver - man, it was funny how yellow his skin turned! Knee slapping.
What I am up for is a good "bad TV joke" which is where we were going. Bad Asp said he's going to write Tell Tale, and I think that's the best course for his cause. At this point, I'm just trying to see how ridiculous we could get and maybe make each other laugh. I'm not making fun of anybody's crusade at this point. I'm just having fun being ridiculous. Honestly, I just told a story about beating a dead horse. You can't get more silly than that. (And half that story IS true! My buddy does own a farm that I hang out at quite frequently. I, however, have never beaten a dead horse. A dead goat, sure. But not a horse.)
Bt
I already said it. We won't tolerate this behavior around here. You are poking fun at everything and anything Bad Asp is saying, which I find extremely low especially because you were sent a PM. Because he's not joking with you, that's a form of bullying, for your information. Again, that sort of behavior will not be tolerated. I don't care if you guys are sarcastic with us directly, that's all in fun, a little distasteful sometimes, but we can take your comments no problem. But this is just not cool. That's all.
Quote from: Cez on October 22, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
I already said it. We won't tolerate this behavior around here. You are poking fun at everything and anything Bad Asp is saying, which I find extremely low especially because you were sent a PM. Because he's not joking with you, that's a form of bullying, for your information. Again, that sort of behavior will not be tolerated. I don't care if you guys are sarcastic with us directly, that's all in fun, a little distasteful sometimes, but we can take your comments no problem. But this is just not cool. That's all.
Then by all means, lock this thread. That's your prerogative. No need to make a public spectacle.
At worst, what Cez said is true--at best, simple joking has gone on overly long to the point where more than one person thinks that's true. Either way, this has wandered off the topic of the original post. If you want to keep pu jokes about old sitcoms or whatever else, make a new thread for it, please.
Yeah!
No problem. Dead horse stick put away. Good luck with your letter writing campaign, Bad Asp.
Bt
QuoteSeriously, guys, it's not even funny. You guys were sent PMs, and what you've been doing is extremely low. Let's start poking fun at your kidney's problems next, BT, shall we?
If you really thought it was that inappropriate wouldn't you just ban someone (or have locked the thread when he said he would write to telltale) rather then make a comment about an illness they have? I think comparing BTs continued joking about writing a letter to the wrong person to poking fun at someones real life illness is a stretch.
If you want forum members to treat others with respect then you should do so even when enforcing the rules, "your banned because what you were doing is low", is a far more appropriate then, I will think up a real life thing that has caused you pain and suggest we tease you about that.
I realise this thread and issue needs to be dead and buried, I only posted this as I think it is worth you thinking about what way you choose to police the forums and how you treat people who are acting inappropriately
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