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Title: You know what I've always wanted?
Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 06:46:59 PM
A KQ game starring...Saladin. I always found him to be an interesting character, and would love to play through an adventure with him.

And after playing TSL, the description of the statue of Saladin's ancestor in the castle halls (describing how he rose to become the first dog to serve as guard), I was thinking of what an interesting story could be made out of that.

Now obviously that's not going to happen, but I thought the next best thing could be a section in TSL as Saladin. I've always had an inkling that TSL would, at some point, include a playable section as each member of the family (whether I'm right on this is obviously yet to be seen), but a section as Saladin could be very interesting indeed.

I realise that at this point it's probably far too late to add something like that in even the last chapter, but it's worth the shot.
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Post by: duke on November 19, 2010, 07:51:40 PM
There were originally plans do have sections playing with different characters but unfortunately these were cut when the game was trimmed down to a more manageable size.

I have always loved Saladin though, so cool idea!
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Post by: wilco64256 on November 19, 2010, 08:27:17 PM
*Ponders working on a Saladin FPS*
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Post by: Haids1987 on November 19, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
Sorry to sound like a n00b, but what a FPS? ???
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 19, 2010, 09:07:35 PM
First-Person Shooter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter).
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 09:08:09 PM
What an interesting idea! I too think Saladin is a great character (though he isn't developed much); additionally, I think the original voice actor from KQVI has since died. But anyways, it's still a cool idea.

Haids, FPS stands for first-person shooter.
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 09:09:23 PM
duke - Pretty much what I thought. Ah wells.

No like FPS's. Never been a fan.

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I too think Saladin is a great character (though he isn't developed much)
One of the big reasons I'd like to see him star in a game.
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 19, 2010, 09:14:37 PM
. . . additionally, I think the original voice actor from KQVI has since died.
Indeed; Tony Jay passed away in 2006. I was incredibly sad when I found out; he was incredibly talented and had a wonderful voice. I loved him as Saladin and the Gate.
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Post by: Haids1987 on November 19, 2010, 09:18:38 PM
Thank you for clearing that up for me, boys. I actually really don't like first-person shooters, either. But if Captain Salidan starred in one I might reconsider.
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 09:19:46 PM
I could actually see him in a Zelda-esque style game.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 09:50:38 PM
I actually really don't like first-person shooters, either. But if Captain Salidan starred in one I might reconsider.

Yeah, you'd also have to make up some elaborate reason as to how guns suddenly appeared in the Green Isles out of nowhere...Or I suppose you could have an FPS with a bow and arrow...Nah, that'd be lame. Plus, I can't imagine Saladin shooting people up.

An RPG/Adventure approach could be cool though. What would Saladin be doing in this game, Arix? What would be the reason and object of his quest?
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
As I said earlier, an adventure based around Saladin's ancestor rising to become the first dog of the royal guard could be intriguing.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
Right, but what would that actually mean in terms of adventures? What would he have to do to become the first guard dog? Fight some great evil?
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 09:58:43 PM
That would be the traditional thing to do, but it also feels a bit overdone. It would definitely work, but I'd prefer something a bit more original.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 10:08:22 PM
...Like?
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 10:47:58 PM
Ever read Dragon Outcast? Cause I'm thinking something like that.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 10:48:27 PM
Never heard of it.
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 11:11:41 PM
The main character, a copper dragon, is cast out from his family. Running away from them, he comes across the Lavadome, an underground community of dragons. He's adopted by the Tyr (king/emperor/whatever), and eventually becomes Tyr himself by uncovering a conspiracy among the community to overthrow the Tyr.

I'm thinking something along those lines (but less dramatic, of course).
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 19, 2010, 11:26:51 PM
Yeah, you'd also have to make up some elaborate reason as to how guns suddenly appeared in the Green Isles out of nowhere...Or I suppose you could have an FPS with a bow and arrow...Nah, that'd be lame.
You could always do what Demon Hunter did and have dual crossbows (http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20101025). ;)
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 11:28:24 PM
I all honesty, I can't see Saladin as much of an archer. He always seemed like more of a melee fighter to me.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 19, 2010, 11:32:43 PM
Agreed. Plus, lacking opposable digits, he'd have a hard time handling a crossbow. He does carry a sword in KQVI, I believe.
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Post by: Arix on November 19, 2010, 11:35:35 PM
Yup. Two scenes in particular stick out - at the start, when Alexander's talking to Alhazred, Saladin has his sword part-drawn for the whole conversation, and noticeably sheaths it at the end. Then at the wedding, when the genie disguised as the princess orders him to execute Alexander, he begins to draw his sword. He then fights the genie with his sword when the genie is unmasked.
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 19, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
Agreed. Plus, lacking opposable digits, he'd have a hard time handling a crossbow.
Huh? How do you think he holds the sword, then? All of the guard dogs have human-style hands.
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 20, 2010, 12:32:38 AM
Ah, you got me there.
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 20, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
Do I got you so you don't know what you're doing? ;)
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Post by: drunkenmonkey on November 21, 2010, 01:30:33 PM
If someone wants to design the sprite sheet and a tile map for the buildings I could plug it into already existing code of mine and show you what it would look like.
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Post by: crayauchtin on November 21, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
There's FPS that don't involve shooting too much -- have you played Heretic or Thor's Hammer (I'm definitely dating myself with that one :P)? Those had melee combat.
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Post by: drunkenmonkey on November 21, 2010, 01:48:40 PM
Seems like it would bastardize Saladin somewhat to take a well liked adventure character and put him in a first person hack and slash. Mask of Eternity, anyone. :P
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Post by: Haids1987 on November 21, 2010, 01:55:54 PM
b******ize
???
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 21, 2010, 02:01:18 PM
"a person born of parents not married to each other" - ize
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Post by: Haids1987 on November 21, 2010, 02:12:55 PM
Ohhhhh. Thank you, Doon.
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Post by: crayauchtin on November 21, 2010, 02:25:36 PM
"a person born of parents not married to each other" - ize
I need a like button for this post. :P
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Post by: snabbott on November 22, 2010, 08:53:39 AM
FPS = first-person sworder?
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Post by: crayauchtin on November 23, 2010, 05:43:27 PM
FPS = first-person sworder?
Well in Heretic I think it's a staff and in Thor's Hammer I believe you can use either a hammer or an axe. Obvi, I preferred the hammer. Cause of how it's named after a hammer. :P
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Post by: MusicallyInspired on November 29, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
Speaking of fantasy FPS's, anyone remember Project Offset?
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Post by: GoneTooLong on November 30, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
Seems like it would b******ize Saladin somewhat to take a well liked adventure character and put him in a first person hack and slash. Mask of Eternity, anyone. :P

So what you're saying is that you're worried that the Kings Quest series...

*puts on sunglasses*

...will go to the dogs.

(http://brachinus.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/csi_yeah_skyline.jpg)
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Post by: kindofdoon on November 30, 2010, 08:46:38 PM
Very well done. Returning to the forums in style, I see.
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Post by: Enchantermon on November 30, 2010, 09:11:48 PM
This forum needs a Like button. ^_^
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Post by: Haids1987 on December 01, 2010, 05:37:45 PM
Y'know, you're not the first one to say that... :)
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Post by: Enchantermon on December 01, 2010, 07:01:02 PM
Yeah, I was pretty sure I've seen someone else say that somewhere.
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Post by: Haids1987 on December 01, 2010, 07:02:14 PM
Is it such a crazy idea, really?  I bet that they could somehow link Facebook here! :D
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Post by: Enchantermon on December 01, 2010, 07:10:02 PM
Haha, that'd be awesome. Let's do it! :D
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Post by: Baggins on December 01, 2010, 07:47:11 PM
You know a game I would like to play is a game where you get to play as Sir Roderick Ponce Von Fontlebottom the Magificent b****** (yep you censored this) from Jade Empire... I totally enjoy hearing John Cleese crack wisecracks and being a smartass for an entire hack and slash rpg.

He should be a playable side character in Jade Empire 2, LOL.
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Post by: drunkenmonkey on December 02, 2010, 05:21:34 PM
I stand by what I said. I'm committed to make your game, but I'm no artist. Also someone needs to come up with some good story and dialogue. This I can do, but I like to focus on the coding.

EDIT: Okay I was thinking about it: Why is nobody else stepping up, I said to myself. Being that it would be a fan game and knowing the trouble Phoenix had, we might need to change a few names and other things for legal purposes. ;) But that we can make a decent demo anyhow.