Anyone else remember the days of MS-DOS? I know the NT kernal is seperate from MS-DOS but the 9x kernal uses it signifieciently. My first computer was an IBM PCjr which I still have and I played King's Quest I on it which I greatly enjoyed. What are your experience
I never used pure DOS myself... I skipped straight from a Commodore 128/64 to Windows 95. That was... a bit of an adjustment. Although it helped that I was used to mousing around GEOS for a few years. ;D
I got into KQ even later than that, I'm afraid... I only really discovered graphic adventures about 3 years ago.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Good old DOS days. I remember when it used to dominate the market and Windows was more like some GUI program rather than an actual operating system. :D Computers would boot up in under 10 seconds and the keyboard was used way more than the mouse.
Hehe, I remember when Windows 95 came, everyone was like: "What did you do with DOS?" "Why do I have to go to 'Start' to shut down my computer?" ;P
wheee... DOS that was a long time ago... rememberd my dad took his pc from work to home in the holidays.... i played digger, striker, pong and kq1 on it!!
years later when we got our own pc we had windows 95 :o
<sigh> bit sad that my earliest memories are connected to computers ; /
I <3 DOS! :)
I still enjoy programming games and stuff in it actually, haven't learned Windows type stuff yet.
Of course I come from the other side of the house. My first computer was an Apple IIe. I played King’s Quest I â€" IV on it. It was the greatest computer I’ve ever had, no gui, no drivers, you simply put the disk for the program you wanted (the big ol ones) in the drive and turned the beast on.
It either did one of two things… booted the program or didn’t… if it didn’t the disk was busted and your where SOL… but none of this OS business we fight with now… I didn’t even know what an OS was then… ah nostalgia
NOTE: et is nostalgic not stupid, he doesn’t plan to give up his PowerBook or XP box in favor of a IIe any time soon… :o
My first computer was a good, olde fashioned 3-86 with DOS and Win 3.1. Start up. Type the name of the program I wanted to run. If there was a problem, just reset or turn off. None of this "waiting to shut down" bull. I hate waiting! :suffer:
*laughs*
....oops sorry for that. hmmmm.... i did some programming in DOS but that was too long ago, can't remember anything about it anymore ; (
Bah *thwaps B'rrr*
I remember the soundcard-less days. Remember Monkey Island 1? It played everything in blips and blaps on the PC speaker :) They sure dont make em like they used to! ;)
Oh but I loved to hear “Green Sleeves†played out in beeps when “King's Quest II†booted! It was almost as loud the crunch of the disk drive accessing… ;)
Quote from: MangoMercury on April 08, 2004, 09:25:55 AM
Bah *thwaps B'rrr*
ieehkk!!?? ...hmmm, a good thing that i don't know the meaning of 'thwaps' ; )
btw i really liked the pc speaker, sometimes i still use that option ; )
The earliest computer I remember we had was a ZX-Spectrum, we may have also had a ZX-81 before that, but I'm not really sure.
My first PC was DOS only - the first two computers I had weren't advanced enough to run Windows and applications at the same time :P
I liked DOS... Life was so much simpler then ;)
I only began using Windows (3.1, and later 95 and now 98) because I had games that required it. All those windows really confused me when I started using it :S
Text... he forgets the "spells" in "King's Quest III"... :P
Yeah... the copyright protection from hell :P
*etgadsby assumes the form of an evil Wizard and zaps poor dew7*
Zap
dew7, keels over clutching his chest and mentions the words "Why ------ uhhhhhhhhhhh ---- drifts into a deep sleep.
Quote from: etgadsby on April 09, 2004, 07:41:29 PM*etgadsby assumes the form of an evil Wizard and zaps poor dew7*
What'd you have to go and do that for?
Yeah, you're not a Powerful Wizard yet... the best you can do is stab him or something ;B
Dew7, shakes off the sleep spell and prepares for his journey home to Graham and family. :>
A thousand apologies! Being a bad wizard (I practice magic without a license) I don’t think he was badly hurt… he’ll be ok ;)
Quote from: etgadsby on April 10, 2004, 08:47:41 PMA thousand apologies! Being a bad wizard (I practice magic without a license) I don’t think he was badly hurt… he’ll be ok ;)
I consider this in implied wish....
/me makes sure etgadsby won't be able to perform another spell before he reaches wizard-level. 8)
it wasn't a wish...
....besides the spell he used was low level, every wizard slave knows those!! ...he can cast them without the danger of losing control.... lol, so i guess it was intentionally ; )
Quote from: B'rrr on April 11, 2004, 02:38:12 PM....besides the spell he used was low level, every wizard slave knows those!! ...he can cast them without the danger of losing control.... lol, so i guess it was intentionally ; )
The slaves of wizards aren't supposed to know any spells. You know what happens if the wizard catches them performing one. :o
*ZAPS B'rrr to show the effect but immediately UNZAPS again*
There, now your memory is refreshed. 8)
perhaps they aren't supposed to, but that doesn't mean that they can't ; )
*grants etgadsby's silent wish to be an expert in Zapping (and unzapping)*
there, that will do, play away!! ; )
Quote from: B'rrr on April 11, 2004, 02:38:12 PM....besides the spell he used was low level, every wizard slave knows those!! ...he can cast them without the danger of losing control.... lol, so i guess it was intentionally ; )
Right! but he's no longer a slave boy but a devoted knight. So there would be no more casting of spells for him, at least until he reaches "Royal Heir" ;P
Quote from: Storm on April 11, 2004, 05:08:27 PMSo there would be no more casting of spells for him, at least until he reaches "Royal Heir" ;P
Royal Heirs can cast spells? :o How come
I was never informed about that? >:(
PS. ;P
Quote from: copycat on April 11, 2004, 05:20:08 PMRoyal Heirs can cast spells? :o How come I was never informed about that? >:(
Maybe because you only played the short path of KQ6? ;)
once you learn a spell, you can unlearn it (forget it) but if you keep on practicing you can cast spells on any rank, can't you? you just don't have a rank that focus on that ability
You're missing the point here. One should act according to his level, that is, slash people with a sword when he's a knight and zap them into oblivion when he's a wizard, not vice versa ;P
Quote from: Storm on April 11, 2004, 05:23:22 PMMaybe because you only played the short path of KQ6? ;)
IIRC there was also some spell-casting involved in the short path. 8)
The long path of King's Quest VI was much more rewarding. I liked seeing how they portrayed the Lord of the Dead.
Eh... where? If you took the short path, you didn't even need to get the spellbook, and hence not cast any spells ???
Quote from: Storm on April 11, 2004, 05:35:04 PM
You're missing the point here. One should act according to his level, that is, slash people with a sword when he's a knight and zap them into oblivion when he's a wizard, not vice versa ;P
yeah... but he/she wouldn't be that narrow?? I mean, sure a knight would usually slash away, but he might use on occasion a spell....
like a wizard would usually use a spell, but might hit someone with his staff too ; )
Quote from: B'rrr on April 11, 2004, 05:41:00 PM
like a wizard would usually use a spell, but might hit someone with his staff too ; )
HAHAHAH! I loved that part! <3
I guess you're a Gandalf fan then ;)
Nah, just a fan of wizards getting back to basics to whoop some ass! XD
A feeble wizard is no match for a well-trained knight in the physical department... he should stick to what he's good at ;P
I swear on my honor I will never use powers I am not qualified/permitted to use again.
*swears*
By the way is the list of “can’s†and “can not’s†written down someplace… ;)
Apology accepted -- ;D Does anyone else remember programming in Basic
10 cls
20 sound on
etc.
Quote from: Storm on April 11, 2004, 06:36:39 PM
A feeble wizard is no match for a well-trained knight in the physical department... he should stick to what he's good at ;P
well, they were both knights and i guess evely matched with their physical powers, magic gave him the edge..... and guess what?.... it worked :suffer:
lol, ok apo's made and accepted, and dew want's to get back on topic :o
Yep, I remember BASIC. I also remember not being all that great at it. :-[
I do remember the old pasttime of going into computer stores and typing
10 PRINT "I AM A LOSER"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
Peace & Luv, Liz
c++?? ; ) hahaha... well all those languages look like each other ; ) at least the basics does...
How true. What other programming languages do you know and like?
Also, Yonkey, how does a topic become a sticky topic? Is this fair to other users that respond and their post starts out at number 4 or 5 instead of being number 1?
Heh, actually I was writing in C# but I guess it's the same syntax. XD
I should have written it in VB code (to stick with the BASIC theme and all :P):
Do
Console.WriteLine("I AM A LOSER")
Loop While True
Quote from: dew7 on April 12, 2004, 06:25:09 PM
How true. What other programming languages do you know and like?
Java, C/C++/C#, VB, PHP, ActionScript (Flash MX), SQL, JavaScript, I guess... heh, they're all pretty similar. ;P
Quote from: dew7 on April 12, 2004, 06:28:03 PM
Also, Yonkey, how does a topic become a sticky topic? Is this fair to other users that respond and their post starts out at number 4 or 5 instead of being number 1?
In this forum, the sticky topics are all official threads. The whole point of them being sticky is that they get priority over the other topics. ;D
Quote from: dew7 on April 12, 2004, 06:28:03 PM
Also, Yonkey, how does a topic become a sticky topic?
I know you didnt ask me, but it is my department and whatever goes sticky, locked or related are discussed previously wheter they go or not, approved by me
Quote from: dew7 on April 12, 2004, 06:28:03 PM
Is this fair to other users that respond and their post starts out at number 4 or 5 instead of being number 1?
Everyone starts at 1, so yes, it is fair
Programing? I used to work with HyperTalk (the programing language that they made Myst with)... but it was along time ago...
Right now I'm toying with learning C++...
Languages:
JAVA, C/C++, VB (ie. VBA, VB 6.0, VB.NET), ASP (not a real language, i know) Assembly (wew!! that one is fun!! ; ) ehh.... i think i'm forgetting something but I don't know what ; )
...I know some scripts too, but i don't consider them as languages, (javascript-> JAVA; VBscript->VB. the scripts are a bit different but not noticably)
ps. Yonkey, I didn't knew SQL was a programming languages, only thought it was used for making queries??
I know pretty much jack for actual programming languages. I might remember a smattering of BASIC, but that's it.
I do know the "language" of HTML and CSS pretty well, but I don't know what you'd call that. "Loser's Wanna-Be Programming", prolly. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
hahahaha....well HTML is a language ; ) ...but i don't consider it as a programming language though. it is more a language to 'make up' text ; ) webpages and such ; )
hmmm.... but that is only from my POV ; \
Well, yes, I know that HyperText Markup Language is a language in the technical sense, but not necessarily in the programming perception sense, as it were. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
yeahh, i knew that you could do that wit sql.... but i never considerd it as a programming language... oh well,doesn't really matter, it is all due to the difference of your(and my ; ) deffinition
Oh yeah, I know Assembler and VHDL too, but I'd never program anything with those since they're more used in hardware. ;D
Yeah, I guess SQL isn't really a programming language, but I've been using it as one. ;) In particular, for string manipulation & date conversion. It's definitely a different way of thinking, but doing a SELECT query is just like doing a for loop on an array and the WHERE clause is like an if statement. The rest just has to do with the displaying of results, and the FROM is the array(s) you're looking through. XD
Jeysie, with BASIC I remember making the screen flash different colors and play sounds and notes. It was fun because it was so simplistic. Remember Octave?
Quote from: Yonkey on April 13, 2004, 10:10:08 PM
Oh yeah, I know Assembler and VHDL too, but I'd never program anything with those since they're more used in hardware. ;D
yeahh i did some courses in programming embedded software and programming processors so we used assembly for that.... it was quite fun ; )
Dew: Hee! Yeah, I remember the color and sound stuff! I used to muck about with that too. I never composed/designed anything that wouldn't make you want to claw your ears/eyes off, though. (Hey, I was 7 years old... cut me some slack. Of course, nowadays a 7 year old could probably fake a whole MIDI symphony or some crap... :P Told you I wasn't a brain.)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Back to Yonkey's thoughts on SQL. My programer friend (personal code guru) often combines mySQL and Perl with great results. Neither are technically programing languages but he does wonders with them! :)
Prolog was fun ;), but again not quite a programming language. Well, most of the crap we did with it wasn't very complicated anyway.
Ugh, speaking of Perl, the old KQ9 site had so much Perl in it! :X I'm so happy that this new one only uses one cgi script, and that's just cuz I couldn't be bothered doing it in PHP. ;D
Quote from: Yonkey on April 14, 2004, 07:38:24 PM
Prolog was fun ;), but again not quite a programming language. Well, most of the crap we did with it wasn't very complicated anyway.
ARE YOU JOKING?? Prolog was HORRID!! it's even worse than Scheme!! almost EVERYTHING there has to be done with recursion! so almost every single thing I wrote in it used the blind faith model :S
FYI, Prolog IS a programming language... my lecturer claimed it could do everything any other language does. Heck if I know how, though :P
Hahaha I was being sarcastic (hence the winky ;))! Awww where's Koko when you need her? :-\ ;P
I never used Scheme, and I think the recursion stuff we did was mostly theory rather than actual programming. XB
Prolog might be able to do everything any other language can do, but it's hardly used in industry. I guess it has some nice uses for AI stuff, but still considering all the work involved, I'd rather use a deterministic one. ;B
Quote from: Yonkey on April 14, 2004, 08:16:58 PMI never used Scheme, and I think the recursion stuff we did was mostly theory rather than actual programming. XB
Thank your lucky stars for that. Recursion is a b****, that's why lecturers like it so much. I mean, EVERYTHING you do with recursion you can do with loops, and at least as efficiently ::)
Why will my ZoneAlarm still block scans sometimes when I already have a hardware firewall built into my router?
Quote from: Storm on April 14, 2004, 04:05:04 PMYou don't cast a spell to do that - just get Beauty there to break the curse ;)
And I quote from pages 450 and 451 from my King's Quest Companion - Third Edition:
QuoteWhen you arrive on the beach, walk back to the Beast's garden. On the way, pick a second white rose from the hedge. In the garden, fill the old lamp with water from the fountain-it is most important that this step be performed after the other ingredients are in the lamp. Go into your inventory and click the spell book on the lamp. When the spell book opens, turn the page to the "Rain" spell, and click the talk icon on the incantation to cast it. The "Rain" spell is not cast; all Alexander has to do to activate it is heat the ingredients in the lamp to a boil.
Further on page 451 it says:
QuoteIf you wish to play the short path, you have now accumulated the maximum amount of points prior to returning to the Isle of the Crown for the final time.
Okay, I agree casting the rain spell is not necessary if you play the short path, but it's still listed prior to the 'split'. 8)
Quote from: dew7 on April 14, 2004, 11:08:17 PMWhy will my ZoneAlarm still block scans sometimes when I already have a hardware firewall built into my router?
Misconfiguration in the router/firewall? Interference from the router-settings on the firewall-settings? Don't have any experience with routers, let alone routers with a built-in firewall.
Quote from: copycat on April 15, 2004, 02:08:31 PMOkay, I agree casting the rain spell is not necessary if you play the short path, but it's still listed prior to the 'split'. 8)
They should have splitted it sonner - you don't even need to get the spellbook in the short path ;)
And the controversy goes on and on and on zzzzzzzzz!
Quote from: Storm on April 15, 2004, 07:59:12 PMThey should have splitted it sonner - you don't even need to get the spellbook in the short path ;)
Tell that to Peter Spear! :P
Quote from: dew7 on April 16, 2004, 01:53:30 AMAnd the controversy goes on and on and on!
Ofcourse, how else will I be able to reach 2.500 posts soon? 8)
He's also wrong about using the book on the lamp - you can just use the hand icon on the book :P
Thanks Copycat for info. on firewalls. :>