Hmm, I have an old demo version of KQ3 Enhanced: A Heir Raising Tale.
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/King%27s_Quest_III+:_An_Heir_Raising_Tale
http://www.mediafire.com/?xwtmk582w65cpoc (Beta 5 Demo, VGA Graphics)
http://crystalshard.net/zip/KQ3PLUS.ZIP (Beta 7 Demo, AGI, but most complete puzzles, and 8 minute intro)
I've never played through the entire demos, but I understand its a good portion of the first third through the game. I don't know if it reaches to the Alexander getting on the ship or not.
Its interesting take on KQ3, in that its more linear than the released versions of KQ3, where events happen based on the inventory items you pick up. From what I remember Alexander, there are some day/night cycles, where Alexander actually sleeps in his bedroom. Some items only appear after certain events take place. Manannan is more picky, about what food item he wants to eat, etc. I think it might have done away with the internal clock.
Here is the walkthrough;
Here is a walkthrough for the KQ3+ Beta 7 version demo (the demo goes up to day 7);
http://crystalshard.net/index.php?f=kq3_wt
I would very much like to play the demo! Try mediafire. I love media fire.
I'll see what I can do, if anyone has other demos of cancelled KQ or SQ games let me know?
Well, I don't have it anymore, but before A Tale of Two Kingdoms became it's own standalone game, it was originally KQ2 and a half. I had a demo of it at one point, but the computer that had it is no longer in my possession. If you can scrounge it up somewhere on the net, that would be great. I'm pretty sure the original KQ2 and a half site is still up too. It was a pretty cool idea, I'm just sad that they changed the plot completely to be a standalone game.
I have links to Kq2 1/2 website archives on omnipedia, but I'm not sure if I have the demo anymore. I know I played it once.
Quote from: Baggins on January 26, 2011, 11:57:46 AM
I have links to Kq2 1/2 website archives on omnipedia, but I'm not sure if I have the demo anymore. I know I played it once.
It was a pretty cool idea, just really sad that they scrapped it. But hey, at least we're getting Kingdom of Sorrow as a game! Who's gonna turn The Floating Castle into a game? That was my favorite KQ book so far. I haven't read See No Weevil, but I am intend on acquiring a copy of it sometime.
Alright, here it is. Don't know i f its a permanent upload, but get it while its hot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xwtmk582w65cpoc
Hmm, speaking of fan game ideas, I think it might be fun to do a space quest/KQ crossover satire game, based on the King's Quest Spoof KQ47:Quest for Disk Space in SQ4. If its a spoof can Activision nix it?
Quote from: Baggins on January 26, 2011, 12:06:36 PM
Alright, here it is. Don't know i f its a permanent upload, but get it while its hot.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xwtmk582w65cpoc
Hmm, speaking of fan game ideas, I think it might be fun to do a space quest/KQ crossover satire game, based on the King's Quest Spoof KQ47:Quest for Disk Space in SQ4. If its a spoof can Activision nix it?
Thanks fot the link! I'm downloading it now! As for a satire, I don't know if Activision can nix it or not. I'm tempted to say no, but I'm not an expert.
Well it seems, KQIII+HRT demo does not appear to be vista/win 7 compatible, as it uses 320x240 graphics. I don't know how to get past that. It does work on Windows XP though.
If you have time, and if you get it working for you, would care to create a walkthrough for it? As well as plot description for the omnipedia (explaining differences, and changes)? I don't have easy access to an XP machine, and am pretty busy with other things to try to figure it out myself.
Quote from: Baggins on January 26, 2011, 12:15:06 PM
Well it seems, KQIII+HRT demo does not appear to be vista/win 7 compatible, as it uses 320x240 graphics. I don't know how to get past that. It does work on Windows XP though.
If you have time, and if you get it working for you, would care to create a walkthrough for it? As well as plot description for the omnipedia (explaining differences, and changes)? I don't have easy access to an XP machine, and am pretty busy with other things to try to figure it out myself.
Do you know how to run things in compatibility mode? I don't have access to a windows machine at all at the moment; I'm on my macbook pro. I will have windows access in due time though...
I'm having a problem even with windows xp, "problem initializing grapics mode 320x200... try running the setup program..." :-\
It's definitely running on an old Inspiron 9300, I have. That's a laptop computer with an Nvidia 6800 card.
Ya I know about compatiblity mode, but as far as I know that only allows you to downgrade to 640x480 graphics mode.
So some differences, I'm noticing. The food is scattered aroun the kitchen, the mutton roast is up on a shelf, the bread is on the table in its usual location. The fruit is on a barrel, near the table. You can't get the fruit early on, because its "too green, and needs to ripen".
You can hide items in the barrels in the kitchen. The fly is alive up in the tower (so it looks like you'll probably need to find a fly swatter to kill it).
When Manannan goes to sleep, the demo cycles to night time (only in AGI style graphics). The tapestry easter egg makes a reference to KQ2.5 :suffer:. In the library, you can also look at random books for an extra point, there are three books to read. One about low and high magic, another about countering magic, and one about hybrid humans/animals (speaks of "Canites", "Bird-men" of the Green Isles, and the Bear race living in Llewdor).
I couldn't figure out where the book was, to move and open the basement though.
Its honestly too bad it wasn't completed, it has alot of interesting ideas.
I'll host it over at Infamous Adventures. You'll always have an available download link there. Just PM me details about where to get the file and I'll give you the link.
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Blackthorne, thanks. The link is above, if you want to dload it now. Hmm, and if you got any gurus, that want to find a way to make it compatible with modern systems, that would be awesome.
Hmm, there might be a workaround, if this game is using a version of early AGS, one that works for the satirical QFG41/2. Here is the work around, if anyone wants to give it a try:
QuoteThe rare Windows version will not install on modern computers without creating a workaround. To get the windows version to work, create a shortcut to QFG4.EXE, and add the line "--setup" at the end of the shortcut's Target field. This will load up the graphics and sound setup window. On modern machines switch the graphics to 640 x 480. For best results play in full screen mode. Once you have changed the settings then you can use the QFG4.EXE to enter the game.
I'll give it a try, and let you know my results.
Edit: It works, it will pull up the setup screen, and you can set it to 640x480 mode. Which will work on modern systems.
Here is what you need to do;
Create a shortcut to the KQ3.EXE (demo file), and add the line "--setup" at the end of the shortcut's Target field. This will load up the graphics and sound setup window. On modern machines switch the graphics to 640 x 480. For best results play in full screen mode. Once you have changed the settings then you can use the KQ3.EXE to enter the game.
Edit 2:
Hmm, here is a link to an alternate version of the demo, KQ3+:A Heir Raising Tale, without the VGA graphics (this is the Beta 7 version). This version also contains the 8 minute introduction, that would have come with the game, it may have more of the game's puzzles.
http://crystalshard.net/zip/KQ3PLUS.ZIP (BETA7)
Here is a walkthrough for KQ3+ Beta 7 version demo;
http://crystalshard.net/index.php?f=kq3_wt
Hmm, now that the demo will have a host, can someone rename this thread to "King's Quest III+:A Heir Raising Tale Demos"?
Thanks Baggins! Still didn't work on my laptop but that trick worked great on my desktop. Pretty interesting so far, too bad it got canceled. :-\
cool, glad you got it to work on one of your systems.
Hmm, be sure to play the BETA 7 version, although its not as 'pretty', it has the most complete puzzles, has the enhanced 8-minute introduction, and goes up to day 7 in the game.
Beta 5 version is mostly good for having an idea what it would have looked like, had the VGA been finished.
The Editor in me is so chafing at the fact the title is 'A Heir' and 'An Heir' as it should be!
Quote from: Baggins on January 26, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
Hmm, now that the demo will have a host, can someone rename this thread to "King's Quest III+:A Heir Raising Tale Demos"?
Done.
Hmm, ya Katie, its definitely "An Heir" in the demos, although I think some of the websites, have listed it as "A Heir" :p... You can go with which ever is proper, hah hah. :suffer:
There's also this introduction demo Navynuke, Muzlak, and I made before it was turned into the official AGDI KQ3 remake.
http://www.sierramusiccentral.com/kq/kq3intro.zip
Is the introduction the same as the introduction in the Beta 7 demo?
BTW, if we are going to have more than one version of KQ3, I'd love to see your's finished in some form. It's plotting is quite interesting, and I would love to see what you had planned for Daventry sequence. Imo, you can never have too many KQ games, ;). Its different enough, that it would be worth playing on its own merits.
Mine? "Mine" is AGDI's which is being finished so I don't know what you mean there.
And no, KQ3+ has nothing to do with the demo Navy, Muzlak, and I made (which turned into AGDI's new KQ3Redux preparing for its imminent release).
I'm confused, I must have misread your post. I was referring to the KQ3+:An Heir Raising Tale. I thought you were involved with that one, based on your previous post.
Its not the same game/story as AGDI's KQ3 Redux right?
Edit: Ok, your introduction demo is associated with KQ3 Redux. KQ3+:AHRT is yet a separate not related with KQ3 Redux. It was confusing, since this topic was about the KQ3+.
No. I just threw in another KQ3 demo (completely different project). Thought it would be of interest. I guess it was off-topic, but I thought the discussion was going in the direction of multiple KQ-related fan projects.
LucasFan also made a very short KQ3 introduction demo with his own remade backgrounds and some mildly altered KQ6 dialogue portraits.
Ok, that clears it up. I'm not upset at slightly off-topic link. I appreciate it. Thanks for the clearup.
Do you have a link to the lucasfan demo?
Has anyone finished this (as far as is possible anyway)? I'm loving it but I'm stuck on making spells, walkthrough just says make them but I'm not sure know how. :-\
Which version are you playing? As far as I know the walkthrough is for the Beta 7. I had problems figuring out even getting into the basement in Beta 5 if it's even possible. So I've never gotten very far myself. Only discovered version 7 today.
Yea, seven. There was a book I was supposed to look at (don't know if it's actually relevant or not to this, or if it's like the random books in the other version that you could look at), but the game crashes on me when ever I try.
(Posted on: January 26, 2011, 11:31:41 PM)
Ok, slowly figuring this out (partly through trial and error, partly through the directions in the spellbook in game, and partly through looking at the spells in the original game :P) If anyone wants them since the walkthrough doesn't have it, assuming it doesn't change with each playthrough (and I'll add as I figure them out):
[spoiler]
Teleportation:
Use salt on grinder
Use hand icon on grinder
Use mistletoe on grinder
Use spoon on grinder
Use stone (all of it) on bowl
Use talk icon on bowl
Use wand on bowl
Flying:
Use rose essence (spoonful) on bowl
Use rose essence (spoonful) on bowl
Use saffron (little bit) on bowl
Use wand on bowl
Invisibility:
Use lard (little bit) on bowl
Use toad spittle (spoonful) on bowl
Use cactus (little bit) on bowl
Use spoon on bowl
Use spoon on bowl
Use wand on bowl
Enchanting:
Use acorn on grinder
Use spoon on grinder
Use fairy dust (little bit) on bowl
Use hand icon on bowl
Use green fur (all of it) on bowl
Use flowers (little bit) on bowl
Use hand on bowl
Use wand on bowl
[/spoiler]
I do not have a link. I but I do have it archived on a disk somewhere. If I find it I'll upload it.
Thanks.
Hmm apparently the demo also has some of the later areas, like the boat, mountains, and even daventry. But you have to use teleport cheats to get to them. Daventry is apparently largely unfinished though. But its unplayable due to lack of scripting most places.
Apparently there were going to new spells, and spells like invisibility could be used anywhere, with no limitations, to add multiple solutions to the game.
Surprisingly, in the files of the Beta 7 there is something called "Not KQ3.EXE" that has alot of random musings about a KQ3 remake. It looks like it was intended to be an april fools joke, and not originally intended to be serious, but may have been the inspiration for creation of An Heir Raising Tale itself. Basically gives insight into what the finished game might have been like.
Some other interesting bits on the Not KQ3 file, includes a cutscene of Lolotte stealing Genesta's necklace circa the end of KQ3. As well as an even longer version of the introduction cutscene, with young twins about seven years old, playing around Daventry, and discovering the egg that would become the three-headed dragon. The cutscene crashed, but it seems the direction of the cutscene, that Manannan would have kidnapped him from the cave not long after.
Saw those. ^_^ Had some interesting stuff planned.
Yeah, Manannan shows up and puts a spell on Alexander to make him forget, Rosella runs back to Graham and Valanice and they search but don't find him, then it pretty much does the scene with the mirror from the other intro but with Rosella standing around.
Said people complained about that version, but I kinda liked it better. Circumvents the whole taking care of a baby issue, and works together nicely with the other idea of having a young boy on the ship as a replacement.
I've gotten to the end of the walkthrough though and am a bit confused on how far you can go in the demo. Intro to game says you should be able to defeat the wizard, which I haven't, but the walkthrough says that's it at the end of day 4, and I've yet to get further on my own. :-\
I've been trying to follow the walkthrough, but I'm having trouble finding the missletoe. What part of the forest is it located in? It doesn't seem to be in the screen it was in the original.
Ya, the ideas are interesting, if we could get ahold of the developer, and tell him we want him to finish it (or release the developming files, so others could help finish it) ;). I don't mind if he sticks to the AGI graphics.
I don't know if you noticed though, bizarrely, the timing the game gives, Alexander is still about 7 when he's kidnapped in the demo 7 cutscene, it says the game takes place 10 years after his kidnapping, and that he's seventeen at that time. But that's kinda bizarre since Alexander is still sleeping in a cradle at that age, LOL.
lol, yeah I did notice that XD
On mine it was on the screen east of the spider cave.
I guess it would be just as bizarre that not only is Alexander sleeping in his cradle at age of seven, he's in the cradle with his sister at that age, LOL. Oh wait, they still share the same bed at 21 in The Silver Lining :suffer:.
Some of the stuff that I find impressive, is how they use Manannan in this remake. He isn't some random encounter, but interactions with him are tied directly into the plot through scripted events. He physically appears screws Alexander over, punishes him. He's was sinister in the original, but in this he's seriously twisted and evil. He spews absolute malicious hatred towards Alexander.
I find the references to KQ2+ that are thrown around to be kind of interesting as well. Such as a letter from Cauldaur, a letter from Hagatha. There is even is even a letter from Alhazred tossed in as well.
It seems that some events are still based on time events, but instead of being tied to a clock connected to everything, the time controls a specific event, much in the same way there were timed events in KQ7 and Gabriel Knight 3. I.E. not doing something fast enough, might lead to a death scene, or missing some of the events. You are generally told during the story what you need to do, before that time limit runs out.