Discuss.
I haven't heard the name Christina Aguilera in years... She's still around? Wow. That just goes to show you how out of touch I am with the music industry...
Apparently she's also out of touch with the words to the national anthem.
Did she forget the words?! Oh my God, that's just embarrassing. I gotta youtube this...I'll return to you...
(Posted on: February 06, 2011, 06:24:56 PM)
Oooooh, I just saw it and I am humiliated for her. :-[ What a mess. *Shakes head sadly*
It's clearly the result of bad karma caused by her excessive ornamentations.
You can literally see like half the people behind her in the stands and on the sidelines turn and mention it to the people next to them. Of all the songs to screw up, that's the worst.
It's pathetic to me, though, because she's stayed out of trouble for the most part over the past three or four years. Now she has to do something stupid and etirely avoidable, only to make a complete ass out of herself. ::) Lifestyles of the rich and famous.
(Posted on: February 06, 2011, 08:24:14 PM)
Quote from: wilco64256 on February 06, 2011, 08:22:36 PM
You can literally see like half the people behind her in the stands and on the sidelines turn and mention it to the people next to them.
Oh man, maybe I need to watch it again and pay attention to that! :rofl:
Well, at least she rolled with it and didn't choke. But I don't know why she had to mangle the melody so much.
Interesting thought: there was an ASL interpreter there. I wonder if she signed the correct words or signed what CA sang.
I submit that Steven Tyler's version on this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD5pLPCDwag) occasion was much worse.
ETA: Nope, nope, Roseanne Barr back in '90! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c
Quote from: Enchantermon on February 06, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
But I don't know why she had to mangle the melody so much.
[rant]I'm not opposed to improvisation, but all these modern reinventions of The National Anthem just feel like exercises in diva-ism and ego to me. It should be sung as it was written.[/rant]
:furious: = me when watching most renditions of The National Anthem
Yeah, I'm with you, Doon. That's like most Christmas carols. Why does everyone have to put their own stupid "artistic" spin on it? Lame.
And yeah, you're right, Enchantermon, she didn't get all freaked out that she messed up, so that was decent on her part. But imagine what kind of crap she's going to get tomorrow...oh man...I bet she drank herself stupid tonight!
Quote from: kindofdoon on February 06, 2011, 11:29:30 PM[rant]I'm not opposed to improvisation, but all these modern reinventions of The National Anthem just feel like exercises in diva-ism and ego to me. It should be sung as it was written.[/rant]
I'm not opposed to it either if it's done tastefully, but she did it so much that it detracted from the song rather than adding to it.
I just realised that I don't know the lyrics to the American anthem. Where did she screw up? O.o
The only reason I know the national anthem was because when I changed schools for my 5th and 6th grade years, we sang it every morning. Granted, there are a couple words I learned wrong, so always have to be on top of it when I sing it!
Quote from: Arkillian on February 07, 2011, 02:37:43 AMI just realised that I don't know the lyrics to the American anthem. Where did she screw up? O.o
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/entertainment/2011/02/07/christina-aguilera-national-anthem-super-fumble/
Incidentally, Whitney Houston's version linked in that article is great; she sang it straight with just a small bit of extra fluff and a strong punch.
You guys are such hypocrites. ;) Giving her crap and then admitting to not knowing the words off the top of your head yourselves.
I guarantee you that half the people at the stadium probably didn't even notice. This is only a big deal because of online bickering. I don't think she had to "roll with it" either, because she probably was just in the moment and didn't even realize she had sung the wrong words. As a musician who has sung and performed live many a time, I can attest to the fact that it happens all the time. It's SO easy to do. In fact, it happens MORE often with songs that you know really well, because you are so familiar with them that you don't even think about the words as you sing them. I completely believe her when she said in her statement that she has sung the song all her life and didn't even realize her mistake until later.
And as for her singing style--I'm no huge Christina Aguilera fan, but I do know that one of her main claims to fame as a singer is her ability at vocal acrobatics, so I'm not sure what people were expecting. :) Honestly, I felt like her embellishments were pretty tastefully done here and only added to the emotional impact of the song. People are only harping on about it because they are trying to find any reasons they can to make her look stupid because of the lyrical mistake.
This is yet another example of how pathetic and petty people can be, and how people would rather spend their time smearing those they perceive as more successful, rather than taking responsibility for their own failures. They should all get a life.
Quote from: Lambonius on February 07, 2011, 07:38:59 AMI completely believe her when she said in her statement that she has sung the song all her life and didn't even realize her mistake until later.
And that's fine. As I've indirectly stated, messing up the words, to me, isn't
that bad because stuff happens, even if you do everything possible to prevent it. It's not the end of the world, just a small disappointment.
Quote from: Lambonius on February 07, 2011, 07:38:59 AMAnd as for her singing style--I'm no huge Christina Aguilera fan, but I do know that one of her main claims to fame as a singer is her ability at vocal acrobatics, so I'm not sure what people were expecting. :)
Doesn't mean she has to use them. Maybe she was probably expected to, but she didn't have to, and I think it would have been much better off without them.
Quote from: Lambonius on February 07, 2011, 07:38:59 AMHonestly, I felt like her embellishments were pretty tastefully done here and only added to the emotional impact of the song. People are only harping on about it because they are trying to find any reasons they can to make her look stupid because of the lyrical mistake.
Sweeping generalizations, much? Maybe some are, but not all. I think they were a little cringe-inducing, but you don't see me dragging her through the mud.
At least it wasn't deliberate (like Roseanne Barr's rendition >:().
Also, Arkillian is excused from knowing the words, since she's not American. :P I certainly don't know the New Zealand national anthem (or if they even have one for that matter)!
Quote from: snabbott on February 07, 2011, 08:25:08 AM
Also, Arkillian is excused from knowing the words, since she's not American. :P I certainly don't know the New Zealand national anthem (or if they even have one for that matter)!
Word. :yes:
The *full* NZ national anthem- Maori words included. Normally we only sing the first verse. We're expeced to know the first verse of both the English and Maori version, which I do know. The rest I need a script for.
[spoiler]
English version
God of Nations at Thy feet,
In the bonds of love we meet,
Hear our voices, we entreat,
God defend our free land.
Guard Pacific's triple star
From the shafts of strife and war,
Make her praises heard afar,
God defend New Zealand.
Men of every creed and race,
Gather here before Thy face,
Asking Thee to bless this place,
God defend our free land.
From dissension, envy, hate,
And corruption guard our state,
Make our country good and great,
God defend New Zealand.
Peace, not war, shall be our boast,
But, should foes assail our coast,
Make us then a mighty host,
God defend our free land.
Lord of battles in Thy might,
Put our enemies to flight,
Let our cause be just and right,
God defend New Zealand.
Let our love for Thee increase,
May Thy blessings never cease,
Give us plenty, give us peace,
God defend our free land.
From dishonour and from shame,
Guard our country's spotless name,
Crown her with immortal fame,
God defend New Zealand.
May our mountains ever be
Freedom's ramparts on the sea,
Make us faithful unto Thee,
God defend our free land.
Guide her in the nations' van,
Preaching love and truth to man,
Working out Thy glorious plan,
God defend New Zealand.
Māori version
E Ihowā Atua,
O ngā iwi mātou rā
Āta whakarangona;
Me aroha noa
Kia hua ko te pai;
Kia tau tō atawhai;
Manaakitia mai
Aotearoa
Ōna mano tāngata
Kiri whero, kiri mā,
Iwi Māori, Pākehā,
Rūpeke katoa,
Nei ka tono ko ngā hē
Māu e whakaahu kē,
Kia ora mārire
Aotearoa
Tōna mana kia tū!
Tōna kaha kia ū;
Tōna rongo hei pakū
Ki te ao katoa
Aua rawa ngā whawhai
Ngā tutū e tata mai;
Kia tupu nui ai
Aotearoa
Waiho tona takiwā
Ko te ao mārama;
Kia whiti tōna rā
Taiāwhio noa.
Ko te hae me te ngangau
Meinga kia kore kau;
Waiho i te rongo mau
Aotearoa
Tōna pai me toitū
Tika rawa, pono pū;
Tōna noho, tāna tū;
Iwi nō Ihowā.
Kaua mōna whakamā;
Kia hau te ingoa;
Kia tū hei tauira;
Aotearoa
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We also sing 'God save the Queen' on the rare occasion, but that's mostly for ANZAC stuff.
Quote from: Enchantermon on February 07, 2011, 07:29:43 AM
Incidentally, Whitney Houston's version linked in that article is great; she sang it straight with just a small bit of extra fluff and a strong punch.
YES. This is beautiful.
Quote from: Lambonius on February 07, 2011, 07:38:59 AM
People are only harping on about it because they are trying to find any reasons they can to make her look stupid because of the lyrical mistake.
In my case, not true. I honestly didn't even notice the lyrical mistake upon first viewing, but the decorations instantly annoyed me. It's personal preference.
(Posted on: February 07, 2011, 08:12:21 PM)
Americans take the national anthem waaaay too seriously. And the American flag for that matter. And the country.
My interest in the integrity of the Nation Anthem is musical, not patriotic.
I just watched that video (I was too busy watching the Puppy Bowl yesterday to see the Super Bowl), and I don't think she did that badly. It's rather easy to mess up lines that you've heard so often that you don't think about them. As for the vocal embellishments, did anyone else notice that people seemed to cheer on the really loud/high notes?
True, Whitney Houston's version was better, but a lot of it had to do with the freakin' orchestra backing her up!
And for someone who does pop music for a living, she looked and sounded rather classy. Besides, if the worst thing talked about her is messing up a line in the National Anthem, I doubt she has anything to worry about.
Quote from: MusicallyInspired on February 07, 2011, 06:28:32 PM
Americans take the national anthem waaaay too seriously. And the American flag for that matter. And the country.
QFT.
I can't believe I'm the only one offended by what she done did to my country's glorious anthem! The CIA should arrest her and charge her for treason! I don't know about none of you fellers, but I don't "proudly watch" nothin'! I watch ramparts, dernit! And I don't even watch ramparts! I watch o'er the ramparts for gallant streaming! As far as I'm concerned, this is my country that I done love, and if Aguilera don't like it, well, she sure as shootin' can go back to Al-Qaedaland where she done come from!
Kidding. Absolutely kidding.
She clearly didn't realize what she was doing, which is why she's so seamless in her mistake. No awkward pause, nothing. She just kept going. Personally I find it amazing anyone can even find their voice singing a solo in front of that many people, plus the rest of the country watching on live t.v. Though, for the record, doon I'm with you. I have never been a fan of the verbal acrobatics. It's a personal style, but it always drives me crazy.
Besides, it's just an anthem. I love my country as much as the next guy, but it's just a song. If you need a song to prove you love your country, then that's just sad. Plus the lyrics that Francis Scott Key wrote aren't about the Revolutionary War. They're about the war that got our capitol burned. And the tune wasn't written for Key's poem. Key's poem was set to a drinking song. A drinking song.
Not kidding. Absolutely not kidding.
Quote from: Damar on February 08, 2011, 07:21:10 AM
Plus the lyrics that Francis Scott Key wrote aren't about the Revolutionary War. They're about the war that got our capitol burned. And the tune wasn't written for Key's poem. Key's poem was set to a drinking song. A drinking song.
I knew that about the drinking song and the specific battle, but I had always thought the melody was the same.
Quote from: Damar on February 08, 2011, 07:21:10 AMPersonally I find it amazing anyone can even find their voice singing a solo in front of that many people, plus the rest of the country watching on live t.v.
Eh. I don't, not since she does that sort of thing all the time (concerts and tours). She lives for the stage.
Quote from: Damar on February 08, 2011, 07:21:10 AMKey's poem was set to a drinking song. A drinking song.
I love watching people's faces when I tell them that. "It's a what?!" ^_^
I've tried to imagine what this pre-National Anthem drinking song sounded like, but it's too weird. It doesn't seem to be drinking song-type melody at all.
Drinking songs used to sound quite different. :P Mozart composed my favourite one. :P It's better in German, but I can't find that version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8fw_gAdDo&feature=related
(http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/4daec1e6-361e-4f34-9396-a022bd4b2ec8.jpg)
The memes rise from their dark corners of the internets :)
Oh, no, they'll clog teh tubez!!
:rofl:
This (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=74136331072), ladies and gentlemen, is how you do the USA's national anthem.
:bow:
damn!
Quote from: Enchantermon on February 21, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
This (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=74136331072), ladies and gentlemen, is how you do the USA's national anthem.
HOT DAMN THAT'S THE BEST RENDITION I'VE EVER HEARD!
Wow that was incredible...thats crazy... :D As for Christina...she isn't the first one to do it. Bryan Adams screwed up our national anthem a few years back and they ridiculed him the same way. They are people too, they make mistakes.
ARISE! ARISE, DEAD THREAD, AND CONQUER THE WORLD!
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Bt
:rofl:
I'm saving that one. ^_^
lol yeah being a newbie still I was going through the old ones...but thats awesome :suffer: