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Over Hyping TSL

Started by TheReturnofDMD, July 17, 2010, 12:57:23 PM

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Enchantermon

Quote from: Baggins on July 20, 2010, 05:05:58 PMOf course Hagatha locked Rosella in the tower out of Jealousy over beauty... that's a bit angsty in a small way.
In KQ2+, yes, but is that also the story in the original game?
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

B'rrr

There was a Rosella in KQ2?  :-\
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Enchantermon

Ha...I didn't even notice that.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

garyoa1

Well, being an old time adventure gamer (and really really olde' too. Still have a copy of LSL 1) I wasn't very impressed. Not to say it wasn't ok. Just that is should have been introduced as... "volume 1 - An introduction to TSL". That way, no upset gamers. It's just basic marketing 101.

It was inevitable that all the hype for a 10 minute game would lead to a lot of disappointment. Problem is with episodic games, they don't have the pull of a full blown game either. And this was "essentially" promoted as the "release of TSL". The mention of episodes was pretty much in the "fine print".

As much I got a kick out of sam & max... haven't touched the episode games. Real turn off to me. Just hate to stop in the middle of a game and wait. No idea if any of them were ever completed. Just no interest in following them.

Will I continue to play TSL? Sure. But will likely wait for all releases before I go for it. Provided I notice that they've all been released.

On the other hand... what's with the like 6 point font? Us olde' guys really really have to squint to read it! Contrary to popular belief, old eyes really can't read the phone book!!! ;)

And a FWIW, I was kind of disappointed in the graphics. Being an "old timer" I think I would have enjoyed a more old fashioned "cartoony" look. Not very fond of the new "'puppet" type graphics. But... that's just me.



wilco64256

Excellent point on the episode length, believe me when I say that horse has been absolutely beat to death and Episode 2 is going to be much more of what you're looking for.

Not sure what to say about you not being aware that the games were being released in episodic format - this project has always been broken into pieces in one way or another, we've never said it was one big game.

I'd recommend going after Episode 2 when it comes online, I think you'll really enjoy it quite a bit and it should take at least 2-3 hours to play through.
Weldon Hathaway

garyoa1

Heh, yeah, they horse died way back. Read thru 3 pages and the "olde eyes" just about failed. :)

Yeah I did read about the episodes but it seemed get pushed under the rug a bit and I believe the release just said... released. (But olde eyes means an olde mind too!) ;)

Enchantermon

Quote from: garyoa1 on July 20, 2010, 09:23:25 PMAs much I got a kick out of sam & max... haven't touched the episode games. Real turn off to me. Just hate to stop in the middle of a game and wait. No idea if any of them were ever completed. Just no interest in following them.
There are currently two completed Seasons of Sam and Max. While there are things in the second Season that reference the first, the second (so far anyway; I'm on Episode 3) stands completely on its own.
Anyway, waiting between episodes isn't mandatory. Just wait to buy/play the game until all episodes are released. This goes for Sam and Max as well as TSL.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

garyoa1

Yeah but I'm old and wierd, Enchant. :) Just lost interest entirely after a few months of waiting for a complete version and just gave up and never went back.

Call it stubborn, spiteful or whatever. Just got annoyed with the whole concept.

Enchantermon

Eh. Whatever floats your boat. The concept just isn't for everyone, I guess. :)
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

garyoa1

BTW, don't get me wrong. The TSL gang did do a great job. Game ran flawlessly. They all deserve a handshake and a great pat on the back for a job well done. It is greatly appreciated. At least by me.

crayauchtin

Quote from: Enchantermon on July 20, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: Baggins on July 20, 2010, 05:05:58 PMOf course Hagatha locked Valanice in the tower out of Jealousy over beauty... that's a bit angsty in a small way.
In KQ2+, yes, but is that also the story in the original game?
Yes. In KQ2+ there's a bit more to it than that. In KQ2, there's not. That's it. The whole thing. :P

PS Fixed the captive princess! :P
"If your translation is correct, that was 'May a sleepy hippopotamus lie down on your house keys,' but you're not sure. Unfortunately, your fluency in griffin-speak is too low."

We're roleplaying in the King's Quest world: come join in the fun!

Enchantermon

Quote from: crayauchtin on July 20, 2010, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: Enchantermon on July 20, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
Quote from: Baggins on July 20, 2010, 05:05:58 PMOf course Hagatha locked Valanice in the tower out of Jealousy over beauty... that's a bit angsty in a small way.
In KQ2+, yes, but is that also the story in the original game?
Yes. In KQ2+ there's a bit more to it than that. In KQ2, there's not. That's it. The whole thing. :P

PS Fixed the captive princess! :P
Huh. Didn't know that was also part of the original game. Must have missed that somewhere along the line.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

crayauchtin

Probably because it's mentioned almost never in the actual game itself? Like, you really have to go out of your way to find the plotline. :P
"If your translation is correct, that was 'May a sleepy hippopotamus lie down on your house keys,' but you're not sure. Unfortunately, your fluency in griffin-speak is too low."

We're roleplaying in the King's Quest world: come join in the fun!

Enchantermon

Oh. Well then, I don't feel quite so bad. ;)
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

Baggins

#114
QuoteIn KQ2+, yes, but is that also the story in the original game?
Yes, course you really only know about it, if you bother to read the manual.

There might be a few offhand remarks in the game itself but it involves looking/talking, using the right parser commands to discover the story details in the game. It doesn't force feed you the plot in the game.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Enchantermon

Ah, so it does. I just read it in the Collection's PDF file. As I did I started recognizing the sentences; I think I read it once a really long time ago and just forgot until now.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!