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The Ranger Analysis thread

Started by Arkillian, February 21, 2011, 03:51:47 PM

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Arkillian

One thing that makes my head race in the game- SPECIALLY now that the plot is thickening further and further, is who the heck this Ranger guy is.

To make an educated guess on this, I'd have to say he's either:-

[spoiler]The leader of the Silver Cloaks[/spoiler]
[spoiler]A Mole from the Black Cloaks[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Someone we use to know in previous KQ games that may have grown up[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Someone TOTALLY new[/spoiler]
[spoiler]OR- I wonder if he's a projection by one of the Twins. I'm picking Alexander for this more than Rosella cause the Ranger is about his size and shape... and he's obviously the same gender[/spoiler]

So yeah- thought's on the guy? Anyone seen any art posted of him on the internet? I've seen a few and that's it





And I did some fanart of him too just cause

[spoiler][/spoiler]



dark-daventry

Actually, he's totally a gender confused female. But we were trying to downplay that on the team XD :rofl:

In all seriousness, I can't tell you who this guy is, other than the fact that he actually turns into a power ranger later on. No, I'm serious. Seriously. Would I ever lie to you guys?

Nice fan-art btw! You're very talented, Arkillian!
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Arkillian

I didn't expect you to hon :) I'm wondering if others are wondering who he is too :)

And thank you DD :) It was meant to be a quick sketch but I screwed up the colours so much that I had to double my efforts to not waste the line art XD



LightWarrior

I'd say Aragorn but he's a range of the North rather then a silver cloak. :P

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Arkillian

Wrong story too... Although I wouldn't disapprove if it were true :)



liggy002

I'm a beta tester on the team and I don't even know who this guy really is.... so don't feel so bad if you think i'm ahead of the curve on that one.  As for who he is, I think someone mentioned that he made an appearance in King's Quest VII though I didn't notice that, I'd have to play the game again to see if I spot him.  That's all the information I know at this point so we can only speculate until we either get Episode 4 or 5.  I'm not sure if he is revealed in 4 or in 5.

Enchantermon

The only character in KQVII that looks remotely like him is Edgar, and I highly doubt it's him.
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Arkillian

Oh- don't get me wrong! This thread is about speculation! I don't want people to tell me who he is! That'd spoil the game for me :)  I want to know people's guesses and theories on him :)



Hbech

The only ranger that was in King's Quest 7 was a ghost in the desert whose spirit was set free by Valanice giving him water. He was rather lanky tho, so I don't think he quite fits the build. I think he's Shadrack's equal opposite on the Silver Cloak side, perhaps a spirit of one of those who sealed him away in that stone.

Arkillian

Quote from: Hbech on February 21, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
The only ranger that was in King's Quest 7 was a ghost in the desert whose spirit was set free by Valanice giving him water. He was rather lanky tho, so I don't think he quite fits the build. I think he's Shadrack's equal opposite on the Silver Cloak side, perhaps a spirit of one of those who sealed him away in that stone.

This is also very true. Perhaps someone is channelling the previous Silver Cloaks.

It intrigues me though that he wears his scarf like Alexander does though... that's kinda what makes me think it's a project of him and what he's learnt about the Black and Silver cloaks through his research...



rms1975

There is ONE person that hasn't been mentioned. He's in KQVIII and kind of important. They DID say early on that this character plays a role in the game!

Arkillian

I haven't played Mask of eternity. I'm not into that kind of game. Who is the character?



wilco64256

Well I'll tell you who the ranger isn't:

[spoiler]Cedric[/spoiler]

Also not:

[spoiler]Graham[/spoiler]

Also not:

[spoiler]Me[/spoiler]
Weldon Hathaway

KatieHal

[spoiler]That last one's a lie. It's totally Weldon. [/spoiler]

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Quote from: dark-daventry on February 21, 2011, 04:34:34 PM
Seriously. Would I ever lie to you guys?
Yes... ::)

I have no idea who he is, either. He seems to have some sort of connection to the Silver Cloaks, but other than that, he's pretty much a complete mystery. Maybe he's just a figment of Graham's imagination...

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NW15

Ya, who is that Ranger guy...

Maybe is part of Alexander? He could be a hallucination of Alexander that left his body. He could be a different part of his personality.

Does this make sense?

drusain

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I think it's got to be someone we know. Why cover his face if he's a stranger to us anyway? I wish I had played KQ8 now but that's the only one I haven't played. It should be someone who's displayed magic to us before?

One thought comes to mind:

[spoiler]We know now that Manannan isn't exactly a terrible person, or at least not as terrible as Shadrack. At the end of Chapter 3 it's shown that Manannan and Shadrack are not BFF or anything. Perhaps Manannan will end up being the ranger trying to help Graham in his quest because he wants redemption for what he did to Valanice and also to defy Shadrack. It's kind of a weak idea though since Manannan should still be a cat and it's clear from KQ5 that he can't just shapeshift himself back into a person. On the other hand, we haven't yet seen proof that Manannan is currently a cat.

Edit- Now that I think of it, this theory would sort of fit into the theme that every cloud has a silver lining. I hope this one's right  ;D [/spoiler]

Something a little more likely to me but less cool is:

[spoiler]Edgar said he wanted to go with him, and when I first saw the ranger I thought he had a semblance to Edgar. But why would Edgar know anything about the Cloaks if he didn't even remember who he was until like yesterday? So it's an "eh" thought[/spoiler]


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Arkillian

Quote from: NW15 on February 22, 2011, 08:52:27 AM
Ya, who is that Ranger guy...

Maybe is part of Alexander? He could be a hallucination of Alexander that left his body. He could be a different part of his personality.

Does this make sense?

This is what I thought. That, and he has the scarf that Alexander wears- different colour, but there's a similar fashion sense. I wonder if he's projecting just like Shadrack does. He apparently knew a lot of dark arts.

[spoiler]Weldon works too- perhaps he projected himself into the game with his avatar? ;) *fangirl snort*[/spoiler]


Quote from: drusain on February 22, 2011, 01:43:00 PM
I think it's got to be someone we know. Why cover his face if he's a stranger to us anyway? I wish I had played KQ8 now but that's the only one I haven't played. It should be someone who's displayed magic to us before?

One thought comes to mind:

[spoiler]We know now that Manannan isn't exactly a terrible person, or at least not as terrible as Shadrack. At the end of Chapter 3 it's shown that Manannan and Shadrack are not BFF or anything. Perhaps Manannan will end up being the ranger trying to help Graham in his quest because he wants redemption for what he did to Valanice and also to defy Shadrack. It's kind of a weak idea though since Manannan should still be a cat and it's clear from KQ5 that he can't just shapeshift himself back into a person. On the other hand, we haven't yet seen proof that Manannan is currently a cat.

Edit- Now that I think of it, this theory would sort of fit into the theme that every cloud has a silver lining. I hope this one's right  ;D [/spoiler]

Something a little more likely to me but less cool is:

[spoiler]Edgar said he wanted to go with him, and when I first saw the ranger I thought he had a semblance to Edgar. But why would Edgar know anything about the Cloaks if he didn't even remember who he was until like yesterday? So it's an "eh" thought[/spoiler]



Doubt if it's Edgar. Edgar doesn't have a clue what's going on, and he's been at the castle the whole time. Hope it's not Manannan cause frankly, he doesn't deserve a full redemption. Perhaps eventual sympathy, but not redemption. If he wants that, he should do it out in the open.



dark-daventry

When I first saw the ranger, I was convinced it was the desert spirit from KQ7.
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Arkillian

Quote from: dark-daventry on February 22, 2011, 02:26:06 PM
When I first saw the ranger, I was convinced it was the desert spirit from KQ7.

Oh- please no T.T That spirit made my brain dehydrate. HE was awefull. If Phoenix decides it's him then I reject the notion in my head canon. The Ranger has a TRUCK tone more personality than Mr Emo ever would.