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TSL Asylum floor 5.5 - The Asylum strikes back

Started by copycat, July 13, 2010, 04:38:13 PM

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Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says "But Doctor...I am Pagliacci." Good joke. Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drum. Curtains.

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Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 23, 2011, 12:17:44 AM
The asylum is being taken over by evil entities.

You mean like laughing puppets?

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 :S It's like Chucky combined with the bad guy in Saw.  GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

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One of my favorite movies ever. I just bought the 20th Anniversary Edition the other day...There is a really cool ambigram on the front cover - the title text reads the same rightside-up and upside-down.

I also love the two images of Westley and Buttercup. So symmetrical and good. :)


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I've seen that one before!  So cool! :D Unfortunately for me, I bought it on DVD when I was fourteen, so I own just the regular one, not the 20th anniversary one.  :'(

20 years...hot damn, it's been almost 24 years now.  This movie came out the same year I did.  They shoud rerelease it into theatres for its 25th!
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I was recently reading an issue of Scientific American Mind with an article about what your cultural tastes say about you. One photo in the article showed a German bedroom with a DVD of "Die Nanny" on the floor.



What an amazing co-incidence! "Die Nanny" are the exact two words that always go through my head whenever that show is on TV.
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"Die" is the definite feminine article (nominative&accusative). It's actually not a huge coincidence because in AS it was þe (then a demonstrative pronoun, which, as I understand it, gradually replaced the definite article but has remnants, consider "that").

"Die" in English, on the other hand, is really, really interesting because it's not AS or Latin-based and they often borrowed and used euphemisms for death out of superstition. :yes:
 
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Quote from: Deloria on March 27, 2011, 03:34:23 AM
"Die" in English, on the other hand, is really, really interesting because it's not AS or Latin-based and they often borrowed and used euphemisms for death out of superstition. :yes:

Well, I knew it wasn't of Latin origins, but I had naturally assumed that like many short English words it WAS of AS or at least Germanic origins. If it's a borrowing however, it could be Pictish or even Celtic... this bears further investigation! :D What does darthkiwi say of its origins?
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I kept him up until 3:30 last night, so I assume he's still asleep or just recently gotten up and I haven't had a chance to inflict myself upon him yet. :P
 
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Quote"Die" is the definite feminine article (nominative&accusative). It's actually not a huge coincidence because in AS it was þe (then a demonstrative pronoun, which, as I understand it, gradually replaced the definite article but has remnants, consider "that").
I think you're pretty much right. The table for the definite article is:

         Ma.     Neut.     Fem.     Plur.
Nom:  se       þæt       seo       þa
Acc:    þone   þæt       þa         þa
Gen:   þæs    þæs       þære     þara
Dat:    þæm   þæm      þære    þæm

As you can see, "Die" (which is the German Fem Nom and Fem Acc, as well as the Plural Nom and Fem, I think) tends to crop up in Anglo Saxon as "þa", which makes sense since they resemble each other. The exception is the Anglo Saxon Fem Nom, which is "seo"; this is the feminine equivalent to the masculine form "se", which means "the".

Now, about death:

The Anglo Saxons had a word for death: "deaþ". It's the same word. They also had a word for dead: "dead". Again, the same word. Their words for dying are less similar, however. The most straightforward word they have for "die" is "deadan", ie. "to dead"; they also use "steorfan" and "sweltan" which essentially translate as "to die", perhaps with an emphasis on "was killed" - although that might simply be because most deaths in AS literature are violent ones.

The other words they typically use for death are "gefaran" and "forðferan", which translate as "to travel" and "to go forth". They liked to allude to death poetically rather than simply say "he died". A lovely example of this is The Battle of Maldon where Wulfmær's death is described: "Wund wearð Wulfmær, wælræste geceas", "Wulfmær became wounded, he chose/found a slaughter-bed." (l. 113)

So where does "die" come from? Well, if we turn to our wonderful friend the OED, we get:

QuoteEtymology:  Early Middle English dēȝen, dēghen, corresponding to Old Norse deyja (originally døyja, Old Swedish and Old Danish döia, Danish döe, Swedish dö), Old Frisian deia, deja, Old Saxon dóian, Old High German touwan, Middle High German töuwen; these represent an Old Germanic strong verb of the 6th class *daw-j-an, past tense dôw, past participle dawan-, the strong inflections being retained in Old Norse (dó- < *dów, dáinn < *dawans). In the other languages and in English a regular weak verb. No instance of the word is known in Old English literature (its sense being expressed by steorfan, sweltan, or the periphrastic wesan déad, past tense wæs déad: see dead adj. 1d) hence it is generally held to have been early lost in Old English (as in Gothic, and as subsequently in all the continental West Germanic languages), and re-adopted in late Old English or early Middle English from Norse; but some think that the facts point rather to the preservation of an Old English díegan, dégan, in some dialect; the word appears to have been in general use from the 12th cent., even in the s.w. dialects (see Napier in Hist. Holy Rood, E.E.T.S., 1894). The Middle English dēȝen, dēghen came regularly down to 1500 as deye, which was retained in the North as dey, dē, dee (still current from Lancashire to Scotland); but in standard English dēghe was in 14th cent. (in conformity with the common phonetic history of Old English eh, eah, eoh, as in dye, eye, fly, high, lie, nigh, thigh, etc.) narrowed to diȝe, dighe, whence the later dye, die.

So the full answer is that nobody knows for sure, but it seems likely that it was a word of Germanic origin which somehow didn't make it into AS but was later adopted.
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Delling

Although I'm off to video games, I thought I'd ask before I go: in "sweltan", would one say that "sweltan" or "sveltan" (also same question: Wulfmær, vulf- or wulf-) ? I know that the Nordic wunjo was a w-sound, but then German seems to have lost that in favor of the v-sound. Not knowing as much about Germanic languages as others, I have often wondered at the correct pronunciation of such things.
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