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The Ranger Analysis thread

Started by Arkillian, February 21, 2011, 03:51:47 PM

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Arkillian

I approve of Edgar character development. If the Ranger is Edgar playing cool beans then suddenly his character went from being flat to something.

The Ranger would have to be a split personality for this to work sadly. Or some sort of projection. When you talk to Edgar in the court yard post Rosella coma, he has no clue what's going on. He'd be off being cool and mysterious if he was consciously being the Ranger. Not brooding.

I could see him play hero though. Perhaps it's his fey aspects? King's quest REALLY didn't expand on his power capabilities. Just that he was the dashing fey prince that Rosella fell for, and he was all Disney prince in KQ7. Not much else but random magic blah stuff.



Damar

Agreed.  Edgar being the Ranger just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.  He doesn't seem to know what's going on, and he isn't the type to go off on his own and make stuff happen without telling Graham.  Besides, the Ranger knows exactly what's going on and seems to be someone who was around when the evil got imprisoned.  While I guess Edgar could be pretty old, seeing as how he's a fairy, I don't think he's that old.

So, I for one would call foul if the Ranger ends up being Edgar in disguise.  I would like to see more development for Edgar besides him just moping around though.  I know he's never been a man of action.  He's more a walking personification of victimhood, but still, I'd like to see him do a bit more than pine away.

wilco64256

The Ranger is....

[spoiler]Your mom.[/spoiler]

It's been a long day, what can I say.
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Arkillian

Quote from: Damar on September 08, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
So, I for one would call foul if the Ranger ends up being Edgar in disguise.  I would like to see more development for Edgar besides him just moping around though.  I know he's never been a man of action.  He's more a walking personification of victimhood, but still, I'd like to see him do a bit more than pine away.

I donno. There could be a simple way of explaining it but not everyone needs to be important to the storyline. I agree though. I wish he were something more than he is. Even Cassima seems to have things moving along and proactive.

I don't however think of Edgar as not proactive. He was proactive in KQ7. He was naive in KQ4 to me cause he didn't know who he was (even though I still don't like that Lolotte wasn't his mother in the end. I liked Edgar getting a reward for inner beauty rather than having an enchantment broken :/ ) I think he should have better. HE has potential to be something in the story more than he is now. I dont' think that something is the Ranger though.

You know who my best guess is?

[spoiler]Lieutenant Shorty  :suffer:[/spoiler]



waltzdancing

Quote from: wilco64256 on September 08, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
The Ranger is....

[spoiler]Your mom.[/spoiler]

It's been a long day, what can I say.

I heard that all around the school today! :D Your kids are wearing off on you. 

cmoe1969

How many of you caught the Ranger's statement to Grahm when he asks "Why are you helping me?"  Ranger replies: "Who says I am?"  Unless the programmers put in just for dramatic affect, that implies a couple of possibilities:
[spoiler]That somehow Mannanan has returned to save his daughter, but to do that he must disguise himself and aid someone he hates.  (Did anyone catch "She called me ' Father')?  I mean, whoever said that Mannanan wants redemption?  He'll probably get it , though.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Nobody said Mannanan had one child.  Ranger could be Valanice's brother who joined the Silver Cloaks long ago when they disappeared; he's returned to help his sister now that some prophecy he heard is coming true.[/spoiler]
If you discount Ranger's words to Grahm, here's one:
[spoiler]Rosella and Alexander are twins, right?  Shadrac keeps mentioning a great power that both Rosella and Alexander have.(They're part Black Cloak, part Druid, remember?)  Earlier posts mention Ranger being a projection of one or the other, but what if he's a projection of both?[/spoiler]

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cmoe1969

Thanks!  I also like an earlier poster's theories:
[spoiler]about Ranger being a 13th zodiac Silver cloak that failed in his duty to the others; now he's seeking redemption.  With a little modification, he could still be Valanice's brother/relative.  I mean we don't know how long Mannanan lived.[/spoiler]
Also:
[spoiler]Shadrac kept talking to Grahm just before the boat fight like he knew Grahm; it seemed he thought that Grahm was the one that sealed him up for 1000 years ago.  Maybe Shadrac believes that Grahm is the ressurection of Leo the leader of the Silver Cloaks, not just a descendant.[/spoiler]

snabbott

You'll just have to wait and see. ;)

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Arkillian

Actually, a few ideas could be possible now I think about it. [spoiler]Phoenix are making a BIG deal about time reversing. The ranger could be Edgar in a destroyed future, or Manannan being caught up in the magic. [/spoiler]

Ooooohhh- thoughts!



DawsonJ

Regarding Ranger...

[Spoiler] At the boat fight, did anyone notice that Ranger told Graham that he (Graham) was using the same kind of magic as Shadrack?[/spoiler]

Blackthorne

The Ranger is obviously [spoiler]Graham from some other time.[/spoiler]



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Arkillian

Quote from: DawsonJ on November 17, 2011, 07:47:19 PM
Regarding Ranger...

[Spoiler] At the boat fight, did anyone notice that Ranger told Graham that he (Graham) was using the same kind of magic as Shadrack?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]He's embracing the silver cloaks power though. He also told him that.[/spoiler]



rolltide001

Quote from: Blackthorne on November 18, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
The Ranger is obviously [spoiler]Graham from some other time.[/spoiler]



Bt


Yes!  Finally someone had my idea!  It's a little DC, but

[spoiler]somehow the Ranger came back in time from where Graham had failed to stop Shadrack (i.e. the ruined castle in Episode 4 when Graham is given the weapon), and is trying to change the past!  Albeit I have just finished Terminator, so that may be influencing my thinking.[/spoiler]

Arkillian

Oh- that's brilliant. It makes SO much more sense than the other ideas too! Cept I'm thinking original Graham. Shadrack keeps saying that he keeps fighting Graham. I thought this meant the Silver cloaks, but it makes more sense that it's him personally, and why the vendetta is against him specifically :)



LightWarrior

Let's hope the Ranger doesn't head north.  ;)

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