Feedback and thoughts on Episode 3!

dark-daventry · February 17, 2011, 02:51:19 PM

The downloads have begun, the Episode is being played, and now it's time for you to express your opinions on it! What did you think? What did you like, love, hate? We welcome constructive criticism as well as positive feedback.

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Enchantermon · February 17, 2011, 09:22:08 PM

There's an interesting bug I've noticed on more than one occasion; I'll be in one part of the screen and click to interact with an object on another part and get the crown icon, but Graham doesn't start walking; he just stands and continues to cycle through his idle animations. After a few seconds, he suddenly appears over by the object and interacts with it. I've seen this by the pawn shop on the Isle of the Crown and at the base of the Isle of the Sacred Mountain (and I think in one other spot I can't recall at this time).

I like how the narrator has much nicer comments to give when you try things that don't work. Much better.

snabbott · February 17, 2011, 09:27:57 PM

The bug you mention happens when Graham gets stuck - after a certain amount of time, the game teleports him to the destination. It's not great, but at least you're not stuck forever.

Enchantermon · February 17, 2011, 09:29:52 PM

Quote from: snabbott on February 17, 2011, 09:27:57 PM
The bug you mention happens when Graham gets stuck - after a certain amount of time, the game teleports him to the destination. It's not great, but at least you're not stuck forever.

Odd...this fix doesn't seem to kick in when I get stuck [spoiler]on the Isle of Wonder when those freakin' snapdragons grab a hold of me!

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Just kidding. Yeah, that is more preferable than him just getting stuck forever.

drunkenmonkey · February 18, 2011, 02:40:53 AM

Wow, I was blown away by the ending animation. And what you learn, it's like everything is all starting to piece together and King's Quest comes full circle.

The Lieutenant was very funny. Negative!

I do think many players will struggle with episode, not knowing what to do or where to go. It really wasn't made clear. The conversations were fillers and didn't contribute much to the puzzles.

The action sequence was fantastic. This episode definitely improved on the last episode and we learned a bit more about what's going on, but it was still Graham collecting more ingredients which was a bit disappointing even with the uniqueness of the tasks. But that just means that the spell will be ready next episode. I enjoyed the sneak peek. Looking forward to it.

tessspoon · February 18, 2011, 03:56:16 PM

Just finished.

You guys weren't kidding about any of it, amazing episode!

And the ending sequence!

I don't even know what to think yet, still trying to process everything, but wow...

daventry · February 18, 2011, 05:09:33 PM

[spoiler]Where did you guys come up with the idea that Valanice is some Druid or something, do you guys make this stuff up as you go along to Close the Book on KQ so we could have our Questions Answered or are these things True.

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snabbott · February 18, 2011, 05:13:56 PM

Quote from: daventry on February 18, 2011, 05:09:33 PM
[spoiler]Where did you guys come up with the idea that Valanice is some Druid or something, do you guys make this stuff up as you go along to Close the Book on KQ so we could have our Questions Answered or are these things True. [/spoiler]

True? This is fiction. And it's fan fiction, so it's not official.

KatieHal · February 18, 2011, 05:14:39 PM

Daventry, please remember to use spoiler tags for new information from the Episodes. I edited your post to put them in.

[spoiler]Any "new information" in our game is purely our creation; it's not an official game, if that's what you mean by "true." The decisions we made with the story will play out over the remaining Episodes so you can see where we're going with them overall.[/spoiler]

daventry · February 18, 2011, 05:17:25 PM

So if theres a Real KQ9 how or what would be needed to be Explained so the Book can be Closed on the KQ Franchise so to speak.

Dont get me wrong, i Love TSL and this is the Closest to Answering Questions as you can get since the Main Plothole in the KQ Series (KQ5/KQ6) is the Black Cloak Soeciety and so far, you guys are doing an Awsome Job in Explaining it.

snabbott · February 18, 2011, 05:39:29 PM

Well, TSL is Phoenix's way of trying to bring closure to the series. It's not going to do it for everybody. I think there could be a whole thread of people's opinions of what it would take to bring them closure. (And some people probably don't think there's a need for closure.) Feel free to start one if you want.

Lambonius · February 18, 2011, 06:29:41 PM

Yeah, I'm of the camp that the series had plenty of closure as is, especially after the end of KQ7 when it seemed both of Daventry's royal children had found their significant others. The only reason people felt like closure was need was because KQ8 was such a flop.

DragonsQuest · February 18, 2011, 06:58:52 PM

Finished earlier today!
[spoiler]Great job in this episode phoenix online! I could really feel myself getting into the story for this episode even more then the last one. Lot of great moments, and interesting puzzles. The butterfly puzzle frustrated me a lot, especially when trying to figure out how to get rid of the cobwebs. Then all of a sudden the pawn shop was open and I figured out how to get the trade item pretty quickly. The snapping dragons really annoyed me. "I can't reach" is probably burned into my skull now. lol All I had to do was get Graham to whistle, and I thought he had to get Alexander's flute so I spent a lot of time trying to get it. I tried to click the dialogue button on the plants,but that didn't work so it took me forever to get by that one. The chess puzzle wasn't too hard, but took a little time to get the pattern. I thought the part speaking to mother nature was cool, but too short. The dream sequence was awesome, but I died a lot, especially the carriage part. I noticed a graphics glitch after I first arrived in the dream and met the shadow dragon for the first time before the horse ride I found that after I died 1 time to the creature after I restored he was invisible. He could still kill me if I tried to walk beyond the pace he was guarding, but I couldn't see him. The game also seemed to crash a lot on loading areas. The candle puzzle was hard for me, because I had it in my head that I was suppose to be find out what zodiac sign represented each member of Graham's family, so I had Taurus for Graham, Cancer for Valiance, Aries for Rosella, and Pisces for Alex based on what the article said and their personality's. When I finally figured out it was to make magic items from the books it was fairly easy to guess which candles to light, but wow I really was off track on that one. I was able to figure out the salt puzzle pretty easily. The crescent moon one I got after I tried every item on the tree. The guardian was pretty fun as was seeing stick-in-the-mud and rotten tomato. Though I still wish I could go to the swamp section of the island. I was disappointed on not being able to go to the Island of the Beast, but I see that will be in next episode, so I'm happy.Lot's of great cutscenes in this as well. [/spoiler]

Anyway great job! It was worth the wait!

jsh357 · February 18, 2011, 10:54:48 PM

Not too much to say here; it was as good as the previous episode and I'm looking forward to the rest. Some of the puzzles were frustrating, but that's not really a new thing in this series. I really like the extra depth being added to the characters more than anything else about the game, and this episode didn't fail to deliver on that front.

I do think there was a lot of walking back and forth (and waiting on animations/load times) but there's not really too much that can be done given the structure of the game.

All in all, good work.

zz · February 18, 2011, 11:20:37 PM

Does anybody else experience a problem when talking to Edgar? I try to talk to him and only one topic springs up. After that, it won't allow me to say 'goodbye' and I have to quit the game and restart to get out of the screen. It also occurs with the genie in the cove.
Anywho, other than that, so far so good.

wilco64256 · February 18, 2011, 11:22:26 PM

Quote from: zz on February 18, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
Does anybody else experience a problem when talking to Edgar? I try to talk to him and only one topic springs up. After that, it won't allow me to say 'goodbye' and I have to quit the game and restart to get out of the screen. Anywho, other than that, so far so good.

Try over in the tech support forum, I just posted a patch for that very problem.

dark-daventry · February 18, 2011, 11:24:08 PM

Quote from: zz on February 18, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
Does anybody else experience a problem when talking to Edgar? I try to talk to him and only one topic springs up. After that, it won't allow me to say 'goodbye' and I have to quit the game and restart to get out of the screen. Anywho, other than that, so far so good.

Please look here for the patch. I hope that helps!

zz · February 18, 2011, 11:27:21 PM

Quote from: dark-daventry on February 18, 2011, 11:24:08 PM
Quote from: zz on February 18, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
Does anybody else experience a problem when talking to Edgar? I try to talk to him and only one topic springs up. After that, it won't allow me to say 'goodbye' and I have to quit the game and restart to get out of the screen. Anywho, other than that, so far so good.

Please look here for the patch. I hope that helps!

Thanks, I'll give it a try and sorry for not looking around in the correct forum...boy do i feel sheepish.

dark-daventry · February 18, 2011, 11:29:53 PM

Quote from: zz on February 18, 2011, 11:27:21 PM
Quote from: dark-daventry on February 18, 2011, 11:24:08 PM
Quote from: zz on February 18, 2011, 11:20:37 PM
Does anybody else experience a problem when talking to Edgar? I try to talk to him and only one topic springs up. After that, it won't allow me to say 'goodbye' and I have to quit the game and restart to get out of the screen. Anywho, other than that, so far so good.

Please look here for the patch. I hope that helps!

Thanks, I'll give it a try

No problem. Just doing what I can to help. There have been a lot of issues with the release, even with all of our extra time to care for it all. Just imagine what would have happened if we released this back in January! That would have been disastrous! But rest assured, any post-release bugs that are found, we're working on fixing as fast as we can. Don't shy away from reporting them though; sometimes we miss things.

zz · February 18, 2011, 11:37:29 PM

No problem. Just doing what I can to help. There have been a lot of issues with the release, even with all of our extra time to care for it all. Just imagine what would have happened if we released this back in January! That would have been disastrous! But rest assured, any post-release bugs that are found, we're working on fixing as fast as we can. Don't shy away from reporting them though; sometimes we miss things.
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Haha, now Edgar is missing completely but if i click on the bench, i still talk to him! Now that is creepy. HAHA

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