The Ranger Analysis thread

[dark-daventry]

I don't know.. I always go back to the fact that we never see eyes or hair. Move/video game logic usually says that the reason someone's eyes and hair aren't revealed is because it's someone we would recognize. Otherwise, what's the point of covering the face of a stranger?

It makes it cool and breaks established norms perhaps?

[Arkillian]

I don't know.. I always go back to the fact that we never see eyes or hair. Move/video game logic usually says that the reason someone's eyes and hair aren't revealed is because it's someone we would recognize. Otherwise, what's the point of covering the face of a stranger?

I agree. You can make a cool character mysterious VERY easy and still show who they are. Hiding identity from the viewer means they want the identity to be a surprise cause there isn't anything new to learn about them except that they now represent this group *cue points for solving problems music*

The other option is that the face is mearly that and everything under it doesn't exist. I like to think he's more physical than an aberration though. He does disappear, but I like to think he's a being that possesses magic.

[dark-daventry]

I don't know.. I always go back to the fact that we never see eyes or hair. Move/video game logic usually says that the reason someone's eyes and hair aren't revealed is because it's someone we would recognize. Otherwise, what's the point of covering the face of a stranger?

The other option is that the face is mearly that and everything under it doesn't exist. I like to think he's more physical than an aberration though. He does disappear, but I like to think he's a being that possesses magic.

Anubis from Stargate SG1 springs to mind instantly. If you're unfamiliar with Stargate, allow me to explain this bit in spoiler tags so as not to spoil the show's later seasons for those wondering.

[spoiler]Basically, Anubis is evil. A long time ago, he tried to Ascend to a higher plain of existence. The Ancients, the race that invented the Stargate network, have ascended as well. Their cardinal rule is to not interfere with the lower plains, and only "good" people can ascend. Anubis tricked them. Once they found out, they cast him out, but somehow he got trapped in between life and ascension. The cloak he wears is the only thing giving him a physical presence in our reality. Without it, he technically doesn't exist. Oh how I love Stargate.[/spoiler]

[Arkillian]

I know Stargate Atlantis I think... I don't remember seeing that creature though.

[dark-daventry]

I know Stargate Atlantis I think... I don't remember seeing that creature though.

Because he was from Stargate SG1, not Atlantis. SG1 predates Atlantis.

[Arkillian]

So not in the story line with the Jaffar and all the... stuff... Actually, it was a while ago I watched it ^^;

[dark-daventry]

So not in the story line with the Jaffar and all the... stuff... Actually, it was a while ago I watched it ^^;

Well, he was a Go'auld and previously a System Lord, so it was most definitely during the Jaffa story arc... Basically, his storyline happened before the Ori came into the picture. At the point he's introduced, Apophis has been defeated (for like, the 5th time...), Daniel has already died and joined the Ancients in Ascension, and yeah... I'm tempted to pull out my Complete Collection set and start watching Stargate right now. I actually kind of want to rewatch the entire series, and finally get to finishing Atlantis. I'm only half-way through season 3 I think.

[Arkillian]

I... missed alot of episodes cause I was joining my friends for Sci-fi nights. Back then it was hard to follow cause I was new to sci-fi. I'm part of Rovers (Scouting), so I'm busy some weekends doing service, camps or what not so I have gaps. I'm more familier with Babylon 5, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Dr Who, and a few others. I missed alot of Stargate.

[Damar]

Basically I have two possible theories on who the Ranger is.  I've posted them in the theories of what's to come thread, but I will write them here, since this is about the Ranger specifically.

Theory One:

[spoiler]The Ranger is a Silver Cloak.  He's the only one left after the other 12 sealed themselves in the Zodia Stone to trap Shadrack.  The Ranger was a coward at the last moment though, and didn't follow through and that's why the bonds aren't holding Shadrack in the stone and he's ready to break out.  This actually makes sense in a way because there are technically 13 signs of the Zodiac due to the elliptical path of the sun (it's basically like a leap year sign) so scientifically speaking there should be 13 Silver Cloaks as they're all based on the signs of the Zodiac (the leader's name was Leo as we learned in episode 2).  This also explains why the Ranger seems kind of dark and depressed.  He knows that he could have stopped all this before it started.  He's also guiding Graham and I think that Graham will ultimately sacrifice himself by sealing himself into the Zodia Stone thereby atoning for the Ranger's cowardice and insuring that Shadrack is bound for all eternity never to return.[/spoiler]

Theory Two:

[spoiler]The Ranger is a Silver Cloak who was left behind after the other Silver Cloaks sealed themselves into the Zodia Stone.  They left him behind because it was his job to continue the line of Silver Cloaks in case they were unsuccessful and Shadrack ever returned.  Over the years, unaging by his magic, the Ranger has kept watch and had other children to keep the line alive (perhaps the same boys that Manannan kidnapped and slaughtered when they came of age?)  In this scenario, the Ranger is actually Graham's ancestor or biological father.  This would explain how Graham is related to the Silver Cloaks.  If this theory holds, then I think that Graham will ultimately sacrifice himself by sealing himself into the Zodia Stone, thereby accepting his noble heritage and insuring that Shadrack is bound for all eternity never to return.[/spoiler]

[Arkillian]

I like theory 2 better There's plenty of angst out there already for the family- no need for the Ranger to be too. This is actually a very convincing theory too ^^

[jotun]

My guess is that he is either a Silver cloak, or the guardian of their secrets. The majority of the Black Cloak society appears to be at large ( to the chagrin of the Graham family). Alternatively, the dialogue between Graham and Shamir hints that Graham is a descendant of the Silver Cloaks himself. Perhaps the ranger is as well. 

[mrward]

as a far off guess I reckon the ranger looks kinda like Anakin Skywalker LOL!!!

[mythosopher]

There is ONE person that hasn't been mentioned. He's in KQVIII and kind of important. They DID say early on that this character plays a role in the game!

There are only three people it could possibly be from KQ8 based on gender and magical abilities:

• The Wizard - the wizard in Daventry with the tower on the island and pet/familiar crow, Dante
• Uriel - the Archon apprentice of Lucreto who was one of the few taked with protecting the Mask
• Prophet Hector - a "Crystal Mystic" (whatever that means) who leaves a recorded message to Connor about his role in the cataclysm and the restoration of the Mask

What makes no sense is why any of them would want or need to disguise themselves when speaking with Graham. None of them have any reason to. And it's certainly not Connor, because that makes even less sense.

I'm still convinced it's somehow a Wanderer, just like the KQ7 desert ghost, Colin Farwalker. I've scanned lists of all the characters from all the KQ games, and I can't think of anyone else who it could be, if we've even met this character before. I'm feeling fairly certain that he's either the 13th Silver Cloak left to look after Zodia Stone, or at least an apprentice of some sort. Definitely sticking by that theory.

[IrishAngel2010]

Now that we have some new screen shots, I'm wondering if anyone else has renewed curiousity in the Ranger?

I think Damar's theory frankly makes the most sense; that the ranger was meant to be a Zodia guardian but for whatever reason was sealed out. I think this would be the most satisfying explanation because it would be technically a new character, but one who ties in to the story without too much of a stretch.

I don't know about you guys, but I think I would otherwise be a little annoyed if the Ranger is just some new guy who has no tie-in to the rest of the story, OR if he is a very minor character from a previous game that was brought back by means of a very strained explanation (speaking of, were there any children or young adults in any of the episodes that we met before the episodes with adult Rosella or Alexander? I suppose they would fit the right age group to be the Ranger).  For the same reason, I'm in the "not Edgar, not Connor" camp - I think if either of these guys turn out to be the Ranger, I fear the explanation will just be too forced - I just can't think of a logical reason why it could clearly be one of them (but I'm happy to be proven wrong)

That being said, I think many good points have been raised about Edgar...  Anyone got a screen cap of Edgar's face that we can toss up next to the new Ranger shot?

_{CLICK CLICK CLICKY CLICK} "Enhance..." _{CLICK CLICK CLICKY CLICK} "Enhance...."

[dark-daventry]

Well, normally I'm sworn to secrecy, but I'll make an exception here... The identity of the Ranger is...

[spoiler]Melicia! While she was turned into a baby, she encountered a wise old wizard (Crispin I think his name was...) who turned her back into an adult. Except something went a little wrong during the spell. She was returned to an adult just fine, but in the wrong gender. Melicia now searches for a way to return to her feminine self; the only apparent way to reverse the spell is to use the Zodia Stone. To get to it, she must first manipulate Graham. So there you go! The mystery of The Ranger has finally been solved![/spoiler]

[IrishAngel2010]

Ah, thank you DD.

So what you're saying is, it almost certainly is Edgar or Connor, and the explanation as to how either became the Ranger makes about as much sense as throwing a bridle at a snake.

[KatieHal]

LOL, I think you mean *Malicia*, DD

besides, everyone knows that the Ranger is actually...

[spoiler]Cedric!!  [/spoiler]

[dark-daventry]

LOL, I think you mean *Malicia*, DD

besides, everyone knows that the Ranger is actually...

[spoiler]Cedric!!  [/spoiler]

DOH! Yes, I do mean Malicia. Note to self: don't post replies while on your lunch break while simultaneously answering a grocery call and eating goldfish...

[snabbott]

LOL, I think you mean *Malicia*, DD

besides, everyone knows that the Ranger is actually...

[spoiler]Cedric!!  [/spoiler]

Katie! You weren't supposed to tell!

[IrishAngel2010]

I have a ball. Perhaps you would like to bounce it?