Valanice is Manannan's daughter, that's for sure. To answer Baggin's question, You like quoting lines a lot, and there are lines in that cutscene with Manannan/Valanice that should give you a very good idea of what happened.
Thank you, I'll probably understand it better when I get that far. I may just be misundertanding Percival's post.
(Posted on: February 23, 2011, 02:54:38 PM)
There is no evidence in official cannon (read: the games... not the Companion.... sorry Baggins) that suggests that Mordack was acting under Shadrack's orders. He was simply trying to get Alexander to reverse the Cat Cookie spell/curse he cast on Manannan. Mordack's only official BCS business in KQ5 was keeping/taking care of Cassima.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, not even the Companion has some convoluted explanation tieing Mordack to Shadrack, and the kidnapping of the Royal Family.
Infact, really the only source that even connects Shadrack to Mordack in any way is KQ6, and its over a game of chess!
The only connection all sources share is Abdul Alhazred's direct connection to Mordack mentioned in KQ5 and KQ6, over Cassima's kidnapping. But that's only Alhazred to Mordack, not some strong Shadrack to Mordack connection.
KQ5 only connects Mordack to Manannan as siblings. It's the fact that Mordack is hoping to cure his brother is the whole official motive behind the plot (which is the only thing said about the matter in any official sources actually).
Hell, if you go back to KQ6 information only, Shadrack's involvement is limited at most. In KQ6 the whole plan to capture Land of the Green Isles was Abdul Alhazred's idea, and his idea only. Shadrack had no involvement, but he was interested in hearing Alhazred's plans. There is nothing to suggest that Shadrack is the leader of their little group, but simply just another member BCS (infact that's likely the reason why the fan game, KQ2RTS created the Father as the leader of the group instead).
It was only the Companion that suggested Shadrack had a much deeper involvement, and that it may have been Shadrack's plans. Which if you are ignoring the Companion should have no relevance to you, anyways.
P.S. Cannons go boom! Canon does not.
As for Hagatha's involvement in KQ2, ever hear the old saying "there's no such thing as a free lunch?" Hagatha had to make a good show of impeding Graham's progress in Kolyma so as to avoid arousing Graham's suspicions. If she truly was interested in stopping Graham, all she really had to do was push him into the poisoned moat surrounding Dracula's castle. As it currently stands, she is more of a minor inconvenience in KQ2... she does not truly stand in Graham's way, but she doesn't make it too obvious that she's not standing in Graham's way.
BTW, I'm not sure what KQ2 you are referring to, but in the canon version of the game, Hagatha doesn't do anything to "impede" Graham's progress in Kolyma.
She has next to no role in that game at all! She doesn't give any show really... I wouldn't count stirring the cannibal pot, or chasing after Graham, any show at all. Besides Graham can be immune to her, if he encountered the fairy.
The only thing that ties her into KQ2 story at all, is a brief reference in the KQ2 manual, and the 'little old lady' at the antique shop, explaining that Hagatha stole her nightengale if you talk to her. But none of that really "impedes" Graham's progress directly (Graham can get the magic lamp by trading away some of the Sapphire Jewels).
To be fair the only thing that really tied her into direct role with other villains was the Companion, when it made her Manannan and Mordack's sister. Something that Roberta herself denied later on (suggesting it was never her intent), but the other Sierra producers acknowledged in the King's Question's game.
Seriously when it comes down to it, the only people who try to create convoluted connections between all the villains in the KQ series, are the fans in their fan games and fan fiction.
The Companion connects some of the villains to a lesser extent but it only connects through smaller groups of villains. I.E. the Companion connects Hagatha, Mordack, and Manannan as a group, it connects Manannan and the Sorcerer/Enchanter/Wizard as one group, it connects Mordack and Alhazred together as a group (suggesting that Mordack was Alhazred's master), and it connects Shadrack and Alhazred together as another group, but none of those smaller groups are tied together directly.
No official source has ever connected Malicia or Lolotte to any other villain in the game series. Not even Lolotte is connected to Malicia in any source (not even the game developer notes that were reprinted in the various official hintbooks). Infact those same notes specifically seperate Lolotte and Malicia as separate groups.