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AGDI's new King's Quest game is, as expected, absolutely incredible

Started by sahara, February 24, 2011, 05:14:17 AM

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Baggins

It's kind of a misconception that the spells were strictly a copy protection actually. Pretty much all the hint books and magazines offering hints reprinted the spells in whole, or directly walked the player through the steps. Even a few Sierra authorized guides printed the spells and page numbers step by step including the KQ companion and the Sierra KQ3 hint book.

You can also find in some of the interview with Roberta that she apparently saw it as a new way to add a more immersive and interactive way to incorporate puzzles into the game. One of her experiments in 'innovating' the genre.

The fact that one could get legitimate walkthroughs giving step by step answers for the spells did lead to people stealing the game later though. Since it was often cheaper to buy the guides.

On a side note the main form of copy protection in KQ4 wad originally that the game came on a booter disk and required the player to load the game from the disk to play the game.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

kindofdoon

Quote from: Lambonius on March 03, 2011, 07:15:43 AM
They thought Activision might frown upon that.

Are you implying that Activision approved their game? I thought they intentionally announced their project extremely late to avoid attracting much outside attention (especially from Activsion).

Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

chucklas

If you read through their forums/backstory, they did get permission to make their games from vivendi.  I didn't see anything about activision, but from what I can tell, it was all legit.  I believe that I read that they altered the spells before they got permission.
I didn't know how much I really enjoyed the Sierra Adventure Games until I played them all over again 15 years later.

Enchantermon

Quote from: Lambonius on March 03, 2011, 07:15:43 AMThey did it so that they weren't technically giving out the original Sierra copy protection answers (which is what the original spell system essentially was all about).  They thought Activision might frown upon that.
Oh. Well, that reasoning does make sense, but it's also true that it's quite the simple matter to find the answers listed elsewhere. Can't fault them for good intentions, though.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

Lambonius

Yeah, it was probably an unnecessary move, but they also had (until very recently) intentions to attempt to get licensing from Activision to make King's Quest games commercially.  So they probably wanted to take every precaution to keep relations good.

Enchantermon

Quote from: Lambonius on March 03, 2011, 12:41:36 PMYeah, it was probably an unnecessary move, but they also had (until very recently) intentions to attempt to get licensing from Activision to make King's Quest games commercially.
It seems like they might still have those intentions, at least that's the impression I got from this poll. I know AGC2 said it's a theoretical question, but he also said it might "prove helpful in any future discussions," so it sounds like they haven't completely discounted the possibility just yet.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

kindofdoon

Interesting...I would love to see some commercial KQ games, especially if they come from AGDI/Himalaya.

Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

Baggins

Interesting idea but I'd dislike very much if their version of KQ replaced the original official games. The games take too many liberties and I find the stories nearly as complicated as TSL, changing the stories around.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

snabbott

I don't think anything will ever replace the original games. At least not in the hearts of the fans. :)

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

kindofdoon


Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

chucklas

Quote from: kindofdoon on March 03, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Interesting...I would love to see some commercial KQ games, especially if they come from AGDI/Himalaya.

We will be seeing some...just from TellTale.
I didn't know how much I really enjoyed the Sierra Adventure Games until I played them all over again 15 years later.

Baggins

I dont' want to see Telltale making any references to any fan games... I want it create new stories, and make references to the official games only (if it turns out to be a continuation rather than a true reboot).
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Lambonius

I'd like to see Graham's name changed to Ted.  And I'd like to see his hair turned golden brown and lengthened to Fabio length.  Also, I'd like to see him without his shirt for the entirety of the game (well, I'd also be okay with him starting out with a shirt, but losing it, or better yet, tearing it off Hulk Hogan style, very early on.)  That'd be my dream KQ game from Telltale.

chucklas

Quote from: Lambonius on March 04, 2011, 07:47:10 AM
I'd like to see Graham's name changed to Ted.  And I'd like to see his hair turned golden brown and lengthened to Fabio length.  Also, I'd like to see him without his shirt for the entirety of the game (well, I'd also be okay with him starting out with a shirt, but losing it, or better yet, tearing it off Hulk Hogan style, very early on.)  That'd be my dream KQ game from Telltale.

Sounds a lot like Larry Laffer in LSL2.
I didn't know how much I really enjoyed the Sierra Adventure Games until I played them all over again 15 years later.

snabbott

Quote from: Lambonius on March 04, 2011, 07:47:10 AM
I'd like to see Graham's name changed to Ted.  And I'd like to see his hair turned golden brown and lengthened to Fabio length.  Also, I'd like to see him without his shirt for the entirety of the game (well, I'd also be okay with him starting out with a shirt, but losing it, or better yet, tearing it off Hulk Hogan style, very early on.)  That'd be my dream KQ game from Telltale.
Wait - isn't that what happens in KOS? :P

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

Baggins

Well his hair is described as being 'light' or 'blond' in KoS. Not sure how it describes his hair length though (Graham is one of the biggest customers for Just for Kings magical hair color restoration). He grew a beard though!

But he actually wears someting like six shirts to keep warm, and cuts down to one by the end of the story.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

snabbott


Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

Arkillian

Quote from: Baggins on March 04, 2011, 11:30:38 AM
Well his hair is described as being 'light' or 'blond' in KoS. Not sure how it describes his hair length though (Graham is one of the biggest customers for Just for Kings magical hair color restoration). He grew a beard though!

But he actually wears someting like six shirts to keep warm, and cuts down to one by the end of the story.

I noticed this- I can't imagine Graham in a beard, but I suppose it'd look good on him in some way. I'm just not use to it O.o



Baggins

Well there is a picture or two of him with a mustache in the KQ1 and KQ2 manuals! That's halfway there, if you want sort of an idea!

Bet graham would be a goatee or kinda guy (and wouldn't come off looking like his evil double) or maybe a little chin beard + mustache.

Edit: But if it was sierra era beardy graham (KoS blondy), it would probably end up something like the new "profile pic" I just uploaded ;).
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Arkillian

Quote from: Baggins on March 04, 2011, 09:01:28 PM
Well there is a picture or two of him with a mustache in the KQ1 and KQ2 manuals! That's halfway there, if you want sort of an idea!

Bet graham would be a goatee or kinda guy (and wouldn't come off looking like his evil double) or maybe a little chin beard + mustache.

Edit: But if it was sierra era beardy graham (KoS blondy), it would probably end up something like the new "profile pic" I just uploaded ;).

Your new avatar made me stop surfing for a second and go wide eyed. I'm sorry, but Graham in a beard is REALLY not how I picture him. It's not bad, but It's... well I can't say it's not Graham, but it's not how I picture him

*spends a few minutes getting over the shock*

I notice in the following picture that he has a bit of manly stubble


This to me feels Grahamish cause if he's adventuring it would grow over, and it has the tough strong guy look about it. To me, Graham has a similar face to Harrison Ford, and he looks great in stubble, but if he was to have a beard, I'd think he'd have something that didn't take up his whole jaw line like a Van dy.ke (Lol- it censored the name XD)

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

I don't like him having long hair AND a beard though. It's a bit much with his cap.

And I'm a fan of beards btw- a lot of my man characters have them at some point in my stories :)

I should draw King Graham as Harrison Ford actually...