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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2011, 08:24:50 PM »
Personally, I'm not a fan of TSL's story.  I don't like the tone and I don't feel like it fits with the rest of the series--to me that's a big negative.  I also HATED the ending of episode 2.  So much so that I went on several long diatribes about it on various boards.  ;)

Frankly, I haven't played episode 3 yet, and I don't want to.  I know I probably won't like the story, and what I've heard of it so far (I've read all the spoilers) seems to confirm my suspicions.

It's the cliffhangers that really are the worst for me.  They take the worst, most non-King's Quest parts of the story and hang the ending of each episode on them, and I've realized that playing through the episodes in this fashion is just going to give me indigestion.  But, I do ultimately want to see where the story goes, so I'm planning on waiting until the last episode is released, and then I'll go through and give the full game a play.

I'd recommend you take a similar approach, Percival.  I agree with many of your sentiments, but it's just not worth getting up in arms about at this point.  I'd say take break and don't touch any TSL installments until the game's finished.  Then once its story is complete, grab a beer and a snack and rip it apart for all to see.

But really, until then, it's just not worth it.
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2011, 08:37:15 PM »
Personally, I'm not a fan of TSL's story.  I don't like the tone and I don't feel like it fits with the rest of the series--to me that's a big negative.  I also HATED the ending of episode 2.  So much so that I went on several long diatribes about it on various boards.  ;)

Frankly, I haven't played episode 3 yet, and I don't want to.  I know I probably won't like the story, and what I've heard of it so far (I've read all the spoilers) seems to confirm my suspicions.

It's the cliffhangers that really are the worst for me.  They take the worst, most non-King's Quest parts of the story and hang the ending of each episode on them, and I've realized that playing through the episodes in this fashion is just going to give me indigestion.  But, I do ultimately want to see where the story goes, so I'm planning on waiting until the last episode is released, and then I'll go through and give the full game a play.

I'd recommend you take a similar approach, Percival.  I agree with many of your sentiments, but it's just not worth getting up in arms about at this point.  I'd say take break and don't touch any TSL installments until the game's finished.  Then once its story is complete, grab a beer and a snack and rip it apart for all to see.

But really, until then, it's just not worth it.

I haven't played the game since Episode II, and I didn't complete it. I've been watching playthroughs of it on youtube.

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2011, 08:37:56 PM »
Still not worth it - if you hate it that much then just stay away, save yourself the headache.
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2011, 08:48:52 PM »
I'd recommend you take a similar approach, Percival.  I agree with many of your sentiments, but it's just not worth getting up in arms about at this point.  I'd say take break and don't touch any TSL installments until the game's finished.  Then once its story is complete, grab a beer and a snack and rip it apart for all to see.

Warn me when this happens so I can ignore the thread. No offence, but I'm not interested in negativity. If I've enjoyed a game at the end of part 5, then reading a hate thread will be what puts a sour note on the whole ordeal. Will there be plot holes at the end of TSL? I actually don't care. Wast the art work as accurate as it could be? I don't care. I'm getting to the point where I almost don't want to read feed back threads here. Most are positive, but the negative ones are REALLY putting a damper on the game for me cause I actually really enjoy it.


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2011, 09:00:28 PM »
I'd recommend you take a similar approach, Percival.  I agree with many of your sentiments, but it's just not worth getting up in arms about at this point.  I'd say take break and don't touch any TSL installments until the game's finished.  Then once its story is complete, grab a beer and a snack and rip it apart for all to see.

Warn me when this happens so I can ignore the thread. No offence, but I'm not interested in negativity. If I've enjoyed a game at the end of part 5, then reading a hate thread will be what puts a sour note on the whole ordeal. Will there be plot holes at the end of TSL? I actually don't care. Wast the art work as accurate as it could be? I don't care. I'm getting to the point where I almost don't want to read feed back threads here. Most are positive, but the negative ones are REALLY putting a damper on the game for me cause I actually really enjoy it.

All due respect, if the plot is crappy, and that doesn't matter; if the artwork is inaccurate, and that doesn't matter, what does matter? Aren't there standards?

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2011, 09:23:55 PM »
I'd assume if she thought the artwork and plot were crappy she'd actually just stop playing.  Pretty straightforward for most people.
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2011, 09:30:02 PM »
you know it's really bad when Lamb asks you to back off.

(btw, congrats on the baby news, Lamb.)


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2011, 09:45:50 PM »
I'd assume if she thought the artwork and plot were crappy she'd actually just stop playing.  Pretty straightforward for most people.

Word. Seriously, I can handle less than perfect art. If it was s*** then I'd complain. If it was merely excellent and not perfect I'd be happy which I am. If the plot at the end of the game tied up only 90% of the plot holes and left a few stray ends then to me it would've been an excellent plot, but not a perfect one. Please don't warp my words. I'm not star struck by the glitter over the game. I'm well aware of it's flaws. I am an artist, as well as a writer. I understand that when it's something you're doing for LOVE and you're not getting paid, excellent is a phenomenal level to achieve. If this game went pro and I was paying for it I'd be irking, but only at the end of the game when it was fully released.

The standard with a free game like this is ENJOYMENT. Just as the whole King's Quest series is. Part 3 was the first part where I truly felt like I was playing a King's Quest game. If it only gets better from here, then I can forgive episode 1 being mostly movie, and Episode 2 being mostly chatter. Stories with complicated plots have to have each part addressed in their own time to not overwhelm the player. Frankly, I'm not sure how they'll finish the game in 2 more parts. I'd think they'd need 3, but they're the ones that know what's going to happen- not me. If they can do it in 2 then. I think that's great. I hold all speculation on everything till the end.

I agree with Lamb too, but only if you're going to be open minded about it eventually. You want to play a game where it'll all be tied up at the end- I understand that. A lot of people are like that. Don't spoil the game for yourself. Wait a year and come back to The Silver Lining and play the whole thing at once. I hope by then you'll be happier with the result knowing that there are reasons for writing the plot in the way they have.

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you know it's really bad when Lamb asks you to back off.

(btw, congrats on the baby news, Lamb.)

Which baby news is this? :)
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2011, 10:11:07 PM »
I appreciate the vote of confidence, although I'm not sure how my voice acting in one scene ends up equating to writing ability (hey, I like to think I'm pretty good, granted, but it is a bit of apples and oranges!).

But yes, you've expressed your dislike of our game and team numerous times--and if you want to, fine, but understand the kind of reception that's going to end up getting here, the forums of the company that made the game.

As for our PR efforts--well, yes. Obviously. Go work on something for eight years and be within spitting distance of finishing it and see how much you enjoy it when someone tells you no, you can't do that. Are you going to fight? Hell yes. Are you going to try and get support from your friends? Hell yes. Are you going to do everything you can to make your dream happen? HELL YES.

Re: your questions--and I have to agree, I don't think any answer we offer will satisfy you, regardless--here goes. The ones I can answer, because doing so doesn't get into plot points yet to be revealed:

- Alex's hair is still spikey because that's what the model for him looks like. On the list of priorities, making a new model for a character who's in a coma for most of the game is not high. If you've never made a game (and you've never said you have, so I have to assume it's the case), it's going to be difficult at best for any of us to help you understand how much work goes in, how much learning curve there is for a team that started off not knowing at all how to make one, and how things need to be prioritized. This? Isn't a priority.

- Holding hands: some people find it creepy. I get why. But we don't. We added it as what we considered a nice touch. Maybe the family didn't want the twins to feel alone, whatever it is that's happened to them, wherever it is they are mentally, and thought that simple touch would help. Your mileage may vary.

- Rosella's wedding is in the Green Isles: Because we wanted to set the game there, and this event was a good way to bring fans back into the world of King's Quest. Plus, tragedy striking at a big happy event is more interesting. As for in-game logic, people have their weddings in all kinds of places, all over the world, and it often makes no sense to anyone but them. Or even anyone but the bride! It's not completely unreasonable for Rosella to be married at her brother's very lovely home, and we wanted to use the Green Isles for the FAN game because it's a FAN favorite location. (Incidentally, while I won't argue some things we retcon or at least put new twists on old information for, adding new locations to the Isles is not something I would consider a retcon. The islands were obviously much larger than the few screens we saw in KQ6.)

I think that's all the questions I can answer from your original post. But no, you're not likely to be satisfied with any of our answers, and if you're only here to rant about what you dislike about the game and are not willing to listen whatsoever to our comments and replies, or those of our fans who try to reply on our behalf, I don't think you're going to find this go-round in the forums any more satisfying than the last go-round before you asked to have your account deleted.

Also, I'm glad I got to be Han Solo in your breakdown of the epic battle, there, Haids. ;)

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2011, 10:56:38 PM »
I think that's all the questions I can answer from your original post. But no, you're not likely to be satisfied with any of our answers, and if you're only here to rant about what you dislike about the game and are not willing to listen whatsoever to our comments and replies, or those of our fans who try to reply on our behalf, I don't think you're going to find this go-round in the forums any more satisfying than the last go-round before you asked to have your account deleted.

Oh- if this is the case then he's only a troll, so I'll just ignore this thread :) Thanks for the heads up, Shorty! <3


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2011, 11:12:03 PM »
you know it's really bad when Lamb asks you to back off.

(btw, congrats on the baby news, Lamb.)

Lol...and thanks!

The baby news is that my wife and I just found out we're pregnant with our first.  ;)

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2011, 11:13:51 PM »
Oh, yay! Congrats indeed! :)

My brother and his wife just had their first...baby Aiden is quite adorable!

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2011, 12:05:40 AM »
Oh, yay! Congrats indeed! :)

My brother and his wife just had their first...baby Aiden is quite adorable!

Yes, Aiden is quite cute...we all found out when he was born! Congrats Lamb...keep us updated with pictures! :)

And Perceval, you make it sound like we didn't know you were DMD. Trust me, we got an email as soon as you registered from the team saying you were back, so it's not like you pulled the wool over our eyes at all. What I wonder is why you decided to come back at all when you asked to have your account deleted. If you weren't happy, why would you continue to hang around.

Yes, Ark, a troll. If his posts are going to upset you, either just skim them...or skip all together when you see he's posted. I'm sorry that one person ranting about the game is putting the damper on others who are actually enjoying and loving how it is turning out.  :hug:
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2011, 12:24:24 AM »
you know it's really bad when Lamb asks you to back off.

(btw, congrats on the baby news, Lamb.)

Lol...and thanks!

The baby news is that my wife and I just found out we're pregnant with our first.  ;)

Congrads Lamb :) That's totally great news ^^ When is she expected?

Yes, Ark, a troll. If his posts are going to upset you, either just skim them...or skip all together when you see he's posted. I'm sorry that one person ranting about the game is putting the damper on others who are actually enjoying and loving how it is turning out.  :hug:

Yeah- I intend on T.T I don't like trolling. I can understand having a negative opinion on something, but taking it to the point where discussion is pointless and all they want to do is make you feel bad? Urgh. I assume you guys are keeping an eye on him though so I'll leave it :(


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2011, 12:25:26 AM »
oh, man, lamb, your signature image LOL I shouldn't be laughing at it, but LOL


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2011, 12:26:37 AM »
oh, man, lamb, your signature image LOL I shouldn't be laughing at it, but LOL

AH GOOD LORD I JUST NOTICED IT YOUR GONNA HAUNT ME FOREVAH WITH THIS!! *DIES*


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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2011, 12:31:41 AM »
Hahahahaha... :suffer:

Early November, probably.  It's very early yet--we'll know more in the coming weeks.

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2011, 01:47:11 AM »
Congrats on your little stranger, Lambonius. :) It's always good news to hear there will be a new Quester in the world!

As for the main contents of this thread...eh, I think of it this way: I don't like pecans.  I don't eat pecans. I don't discuss pecans.  Generally I don't think about pecans.  I tend to shy away from them at all costs.  So why should I waste my time and everyone else's by going on and on about something I dislike?  Something to consider...

Also, I'm glad I got to be Han Solo in your breakdown of the epic battle, there, Haids. ;)
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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2011, 02:02:34 AM »
Hahahahaha... :suffer:

Early November, probably.  It's very early yet--we'll know more in the coming weeks.

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Re: Spikey Hair & Held Hands
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2011, 06:52:34 AM »
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And Perceval, you make it sound like we didn't know you were DMD. Trust me, we got an email as soon as you registered from the team saying you were back, so it's not like you pulled the wool over our eyes at all. What I wonder is why you decided to come back at all when you asked to have your account deleted. If you weren't happy, why would you continue to hang around.
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I don't like pecans.  I don't eat pecans. I don't discuss pecans.  Generally I don't think about pecans.  I tend to shy away from them at all costs.  So why should I waste my time and everyone else's by going on and on about something I dislike?  Something to consider...
I was gonna say something like that, but not with pecans (because they are amazing) and it was gonna be the opposite, where I was bitching about how much I hate them.

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