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An open letter to Phoenix Studios:

Started by theduramater, March 16, 2011, 07:20:04 AM

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theduramater

Dear Phoenix Studios,

PLEASE.  Please make a GK4.  You don't even need the rights, because it's pretty obvious that Gabe will NOT be the next Shattenjager.  In GK1, Wolfgang mentions his *3* quests; it gives the player the impression that Shattenjager's only have 3 quests.  Gabe has already had 3 quests.

Maybe it's just me, but it's obvious that 1 night stand with Grace was the conception of the next Shattenjager.  I think with some creative writing, you don't have to use the word "shattenjager" or any other trademarked words.  Just some strategic references.

I've been thinking too much about this.  Please make this happen.  And could you make the next Shattenjager a girl?  It would be perfect poetic justice for Gabe.

~Erin

snabbott

If anyone ever does make a GK4, hopefully it won't be this:X

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

theduramater

WOW.  Who would think that would be a good idea???

Fierce Deity

Quote from: snabbott on March 16, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
If anyone ever does make a GK4, hopefully it won't be this:X

I was expecting one of the reasons to be "Online Multiplayer". I am actually shocked that someone was sincere about that. You're emoticon says it all, sir.  :P
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Baggins

3 quests and no more? Um didn't you know Jane Jensen's original plan was to send Gabriel after ghosts in GK4?

Besides that what kind of a hero would stand aside when supernatural monsters attack during the time they await for his son to grow up?

It will be a long time before his son is old enough to go through the ritual.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

KatieHal

Plus that Gabriel doesn't have *any* kids so far.

Thanks for the support, Erin! It would be awesome, obviously, but of course Activision owns the GK IP right now, and we aren't planning on making more free fangames after TSL is completed. But hey, if the pipe dream ever comes true, you can be sure we'd be singing it from the rooftops!

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~Designer, PR Director~

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Baggins

#7
Also, its interesting to note that Jane Jensen cut references to the "three life quests" in the novelization for GK1. So she may have actually been retconning her story as she went.

But if not, its also worth noting that the "last life quest", may involve the death of the Schattenjager. In other words there may be minor lesser quests. But the life quests are three quests thoughout a Schattenjagers life that are life changing, the third and and final 'life quest' leads to the death of the Schattenager. One will notice looking at the history of past Shadow Hunters, that most do seem to be killed on their 'last quest'.

Gabriel certainly  hasn't been on the quest that kills him, yet!

Although on the other hand, dieing in the midst of the quest/dieing young could just be a product of the Tetelo curse.

What about the other two? One may be related to becoming a Schattenjager. The quest that leads a person to going through the ritual?

The second? The Schattenager unlocks his supernatural and psychic powers? (this was a major topic discussed in GK3)
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

glottal

Quote from: KatieHal on March 18, 2011, 09:07:29 AM
Plus that Gabriel doesn't have *any* kids so far.

How do we know?  He's apparently good at getting to the point where he could sire a kid in his relationships with women, while being terrible at maintaining long-term relationships with women (by the way, I always suspected there was some Schattenjager magic behind that, considering that his father, grandfather, and grand-uncle were women-magnets as well).  The mother might even be the woman Grace mentions at the beginning of GK1 (and it would explain why that woman wants to talk to Gabe).

KatieHal

Okay--he doesn't have any kids that we know of yet, then. :)

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

ATMachine

I might mention here that the notes in the game subtitle-text file in GK3 (which can be dumped as a text document if you bring up the game command line) explicitly mention that [spoiler]Grace becomes pregnant in GK3 after her sexual encounter with Gabriel.[/spoiler]

KatieHal

Really? I am curious how that comes up in the context of GK3 (even as something that presumably was cut, I guess?), considering how soon after that the game ends.

Certainly that's one possible outcome, though! But as it (that statement/fact) wasn't actually IN the final game, I wouldn't consider it something definite.

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

ATMachine

[spoiler]When Emilio (AKA the Wandering Jew) says goodbye to Grace in the ending cutscene of GK3, he tells her as he's leaving, "Good-bye, dear one. You must take very good care of yourself now." The game text file contains the script notation (probably meant for the voice actor) that his tone is "gentle, referring to her pregnancy."

Or, if you want to see the actual text from the game resources, which I dumped long ago:

48
0,SPEAKER,EMILIO
0,CAPTION,To the Master. (GENTLE, REFERRING TO HER PREGNANCY)Good-bye, dear one. You must take very good care of yourself now.
89,DIALOGUECUE[/spoiler]

wilco64256

That's really interesting, funny that it can only be found by text dumping the script as there's no other reference to it at all.  So it wasn't "technically" cut, it just isn't referenced directly in the game.
Weldon Hathaway

rudy

Quote from: snabbott on March 16, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
If anyone ever does make a GK4, hopefully it won't be this:X

There ya go. A little over time, but I added my two cents anyway  :suffer:.
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wilco64256

LMAO@ Rudy's reply.  Nicely done, sir.
Weldon Hathaway

snabbott

But... but... He really did work at Sierra - see? ::)

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

kindofdoon

I don't even like the GK series and yet that article is so wrong it seems like upright trolling.

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KatieHal

True, he has worked there--he's done some reviews for TSL on examiner as well, actually. I don't know how much a Network Technician does in relation to game design, however....

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

dark-daventry

I just read the article today. After having recently completed both 1 and 2 I was almost literally suppressing the urge to gag. Gabriel Knight as an FPS? ARE YOU INSANE?! Although the guy does need to get his facts straight; in the comments he mentions that portal is an FPS but not in the traditional sense. I disagree. I say portal is not an FPS at all. I'd say it's an FPP. First Person Puzzler. Because there's no killing going on. The only thing you can shoot is a rather non-lethal set of portals. Furthermore, how could he EVER think that Gabriel Knight as an FPS could possibly be a good idea? I dare say that he's been taken over by Tetelo.
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