KQ4+

[Storm]

Following the success of the KQ3+ thread (10 pages and still counting!!) here's a KQ4+ thread for all those plot/design suggestions/ideas you always wanted to give whoever's creating the KQ4 remake

Ok, first off - all the stairs/mountain paths/whale tongue puzzles have to go!

[etgadsby]

No tongue puzzles…  

Just kidding…maybe I’d miss them… maybe not…

[Storm]

The tongue puzzle is irritating. You don't even see where you're supposed to walk, so it's one long trial-and-error puzzle where you have to save your game on every little step. When I first played the it, I thought there was no way to climb all the way up there... and that maybe there's a grapnel hook I forgot to take somewhere in the game

Of course cancelling it altogether would leave very little to do inside the whale... maybe there could be some markings on the tongue for where you should climb

How would you suggest defeating the troll then?
I always thought the lamp should ward him off - after all, it's not like it actually helps you to see better inside the cave

[Drunken Chinchilla]

I adored KQ4, everything about ti was just great, ESPECIALLY THE HOUSE CLEANING SONG/ANIMATION! Ahhhh sweet rose tinited memories.

The troll used to scare me, much like in past KQ's when you go inot a screen where an ogre or sorcerer was then had to leg it. Awwwww and those cute goblin wing things from lollottes castle that grab you, what were they called again?

[racx_00]

Ok we need to do something about the troll , IMO that was an annoying part of the game

[Storm]

Awwwww and those cute goblin wing things from lollottes castle that grab you, what were they called again?

Henchmen?

I agree about KQ4 not needing a lot of re-writing, not as much as KQ2 anyways. But it's still basically the same treasure-hunt as KQ2/1 It might be nice to see a bit more dialogues and explanations to why things are there, especially the haunted mansion & cemetary. It would be nice for Rosella to have more of a personality - she doesn't have to be as irritating as in KQ7, but it would be nice to hear her reaction for people/situations

[etgadsby]

Henchmen? Can I have some?  

I agree with Storm here, the plot is fairly good and the pace is nice in KQ4 but I'd like a little depth not just the haunted house (I mean my house) but about Edgar and Lollotte et. all.

[racx_00]

With KQ4+ i believe that the story needs to go a bit further into Edgars life and stuff

[koko_99_2001]

Yeah...loved the haunted house too!  (I think I've said that elsewhere on the forums).  And it would be nice to know more about Edgar...but I wonder if we're going to get that in KQ9...Neil, your two cents??

Cat

[racx_00]

Neil wont give two cents, he will only give one which is

[Storm]

it would be nice to know more about Edgar...but I wonder if we're going to get that in KQ9...Neil, your two cents??

We don't need Neil for that... we already know the answer is in the affirmative

[Jeysie]

I think I might be tempted to join Storm as a Crazy Edgar Fangirl Admirer after KQ9 comes out.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Questing Character]

Okay, I think the things that need to be deep-ified (I couldn't think of the word) in KQ4+ are.....
1) Lolotte & Edgar, although we did get some in KQ7.
2) The Haunted Hause. It's just randomly there.
3) The hen...how did Genesta's hen wind up in the hands of an ogre?  Hello???
Although these are less necssary than 1, 2, and 3...
4) Who cursed the frog prince? Probably Lolotte, but there shouldn't just be some random curse on some random person.  I mean, anyone could have cursed him for being an arrogant SOB, but I think we ought to at least know who.
5) Why is there a random bath in the middle of the woods?
6) Frankie of Avalon wanders around in the middle of nowhere--and he's a performer? Shouldn't he perform around people?

[Oldbushie]

3) It ran off... ogre snatched it when it was lost.

5) What, you never had an ancient ruin of a Roman pool in your backyard?

[racx_00]

I thought you were going to give us a " " Neil

[Yonkey]

I did, but with words instead.  

[Questing Character]

2) Right...who is the mummy a mummy of anyways?  Not just anyone got mummified back in ancient Egypt, you know!  Maybe a past ruler of Tamir who came back from the dead because of....something?

3) See, that would work, Bushie except for one thing: the hen lived on and island.  Do you think the ogre would swim to Genesta's island?  Do you think Genesta's gonna take a magical, golden-egg-laying hen off of her island?  Do you think the hen swam off the island...through the shark infested waters....to Tamir?

4) Hmm...I thought he was cursed and when the curse was lifted it made it so that the wearer could turn into a frog and then turn out of being a frog at will...but you know, that's actually a good explanation Storm!

5) Why, actually, no...I didn't....

6) I suppose that might be true....but I thought it might be funny if there was a scene with him on a stage having vegetables thrown at him.

[Jeysie]

I dunno. I personally like Storm's original idea for the prince's "curse". Not everything has to be deep or meaningful... in fact, IMHO it starts feeling a little contrived if *everything* ties into everything else. Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Questing Character]

You know, when Freud said that...he was telling his students he wasn't gay.

It's true that things might seem contrived.  And you're right about him not being able to just sort of wander off....I hadn't thought about that.  Oh well, I tried.