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Started by mimbutzki, January 05, 2014, 12:33:54 PM

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Numbers

I actually play the fanmade KQ games more often than the official ones. I don't know how many other people this applies to, though.
I have no mouth, and I must scream.

Jack Stryker

^Yeah, me too.  I still play the AGD version of KQ3 every now and then, just to see how much stuff I can get away with, without Manannan catching me.  I can't remember the last time I played any of the originals.

daventry


colin

Quote from: ThunderChild on December 29, 2014, 04:14:02 PM
Quote from: stika on December 29, 2014, 06:02:13 AM
I can't give an exact date on when it will be ready, but I don't think the two are related. TSL is a freeware fan-sequel, I don't think it's trying to compete with KQ2015 or vice-versa. :)
Wetter related or not, I envision some problem with TSL and the upcoming *official* King's Quest release. If that game turns out to be a good game, then I don't think that people will try a fan made game besides the official one.

If the next instalment turns out to be just as hideous as the "newest" Dungeon Keeper for instance, then King's Quest will be as good as the last game and I don't think people will then play a fan made game after facing such disappointment . . .
I don't think there will be any problem with tsl and the kq2015 game. What ever happens with kq2015 the people
who will be playing tsl episode 5 will be people who have appreciated the previous episodes.
And I also enjoy playing the fan made kq games over the originals.

Blowfish64

I notice that Phoenix Online posted a news bulletin that they are currently looking for new games to publish.  I had an idea.  Maybe you could finish the ones you started first.

Shalkar

Quote from: Blowfish64 on January 03, 2015, 07:26:58 PM
I notice that Phoenix Online posted a news bulletin that they are currently looking for new games to publish.  I had an idea.  Maybe you could finish the ones you started first.

I totally here.  Makes perfect sense.  Blowfish64 is the only rational person here at this moment.  I feel as if I am going to wait forever and a day before the project is complete.  Or when my hair turns gray whichever comes first heh!
Come on phenix please don't let us good folks down.

GrahamRocks!

Yeah, it's not like you being condescending is helping at all. It's not like they WANT it being delayed. It's not like people like you complaining constantly about the delays and saying to complete it now even though they need money to run their damn company in the first place is helping it go any faster.

ThunderChild

Quote from: colin on December 30, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
I don't think there will be any problem with tsl and the kq2015 game. What ever happens with kq2015 the people
who will be playing tsl episode 5 will be people who have appreciated the previous episodes.
And I also enjoy playing the fan made kq games over the originals.
That only depends heavily on how long it will take the dev team to finish and release Episode 5 and how long the interest in TSL can be kept or otherwise held.

For instance: Half-Life 2. Episode 2 was the last instalment of the series which saw its release back in autumn 2007, which is already over seven years ago (already longer then between HL1 and HL2). The point I'm trying to convey here, is that the commercial Half-Life is a much stronger name then the freeware TSL will ever be and the longer Episode 5 takes, the more difficult it will become to spark any interest in a larger audience, especially when stronger titles are released in the same period . . .
It seems totally incredible to me now that everyone spent that evening as though it were just like any other. From the railway station came the sound of shunting trains, ringing and rumbling, softened almost into melody by the distance ...

stika

And thus! New Years is past us! I hope everyone had a wonderful Holiday! :)

Numbers

Do you have a percentage of how much is finished on episode 5, Stika? Even if it's a guess? 50%? 80%?



...12%?
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stika

I'm afraid I don't :P

Also, I just saw that movie for the first time the other day, I SO want a dancing groot


Numbers

The Honest Trailers nailed it for that movie.

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stika

I saw that, they were right on the money. Although, I'm one of those weirdos who actually LIKED The Man of Steel.

Neonivek

I got through most of this and at certain points I almost felt insulted because well... I kind of liked that they were able to get the sillier elements of comics into their movies and people liked it... I am quite tired of this current generation of audience's abhorrence for anything even slightly silly unless it is a children's movie.

But then it said "What are you gonna do about it? Watch DC"

and I laughed and laughed and laughed.

Since even the worst Marvel Movie (well theater release movie) is currently kicking the butt of the best DC movie release. (Unless I go back far enough to when it was The Dark Knight 1 and 2 versus Fantastic 4 1 and 2...)

Numbers

The worst Marvel Cinematic Universe movie is probably The Incredible Hulk, which had the misfortune to come out the same year as The Dark Knight. But as it is, even other MCU movies that are considered to be of lower quality than others (Iron Man 2 and Thor are probably the biggest examples) are still better than a lot of the crap that somehow makes it to the theaters these days. And they're definitely doing better than DC is doing, post-Nolan-Batman movies. Green Lantern, Green Hornet and Man of Steel all did quite poorly with critics, and only Man of Steel was profitable.

By the way, Neonivek, you needn't feel insulted by the video. They came out and said that it was a fun movie right at the beginning, and the few put-downs that they directed at it (underdeveloped alien villain with backstory you could care less about) are actually valid, unlike most of the negativity directed at it, which could be summed up as "it's not DC, and it's popular, so it sucks." Thankfully, the naysayers against Guardians of the Galaxy are so few in number that they might as well seek witness protection if they actually come out and say anything bad about it. It's probably one of the most beloved superhero movies in years. I wasn't sure they were going to top The Avengers and Captain America: The Winter Soldier, but they went and did so. A job well done, Marvel.

Now to see if Ant-Man will actually be any good...



It looks awfully serious, given that it's, well, Ant-Man we're talking about here. At least the dialogue makes it apparent that Marvel is aware of just how stupid the name "Ant-Man" sounds.
I have no mouth, and I must scream.

GrahamRocks!

Saw Guardians for the first time myself recently. Was a good movie! Not the greatest movie ever, but still very good. Though the fact that I am not very knowledgable about the source material plus the fact that I watched it on a plane ride which effects your hearing probably had something to do with that. :)


Numbers

It was definitely a movie to see in theaters.
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stika

The incredible Hulk is the second movie, right? The one where it's both a sequel and a reboot?

Neonivek

Quote from: GrahamRocks! on January 07, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Saw Guardians for the first time myself recently. Was a good movie! Not the greatest movie ever, but still very good. Though the fact that I am not very knowledgable about the source material plus the fact that I watched it on a plane ride which effects your hearing probably had something to do with that. :)

It was a LOT looser with the source material then you would think.

It was somewhat closer to their Ultimate counterpart though.

Though why they picked that villain is honestly beyond me... If you aren't going to make the Kree themselves the villain... don't use him.

Numbers

Quote from: stika on January 08, 2015, 09:03:43 AM
The incredible Hulk is the second movie, right? The one where it's both a sequel and a reboot?

Yep. It came out right after Iron Man, and considering Iron Man was extremely well-respected at the time of its release, Hulk seemed like a pretty disappointing follow-up. To this day, it's the one movie Marvel has never called back to in any of their subsequent films. Not even the characters from Hulk besides Bruce Banner himself (getting recast in the process) have gotten any screentime outside that one movie. It's kind of an oddball movie, and if there's any film you can skip, it's this one.

Quote from: Neonivek on January 08, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: GrahamRocks! on January 07, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Saw Guardians for the first time myself recently. Was a good movie! Not the greatest movie ever, but still very good. Though the fact that I am not very knowledgable about the source material plus the fact that I watched it on a plane ride which effects your hearing probably had something to do with that. :)

It was a LOT looser with the source material then you would think.

It was somewhat closer to their Ultimate counterpart though.

Though why they picked that villain is honestly beyond me... If you aren't going to make the Kree themselves the villain... don't use him.

Marvel seems to enjoy messing around with their villains, I've noticed. Anyone who's seen Iron Man 3 is aware of the now-infamous Mandarin plot twist, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier really had fun turning established comics SHIELD characters who were good guys into bad guys, a trend which carries on in Agents of SHIELD. Agents also gives us new spins on comics characters like Deathlok, Mockingbird, Blizzard, Kraken, and Mr. Hyde. (Some of those are sorta spoilers, and few are referred to by their superhero/villain moniker, but if you're an avid Marvel comics reader, then it's not like you couldn't guess who they were.)

In the comics, Ronan the Accuser was an honorable Kree warrior who respected his race's laws and customs. In the movie, though, he's a pretty one-dimensional warlord-type character who is rather forgettable, similar to Thor: The Dark World's villain, Malekith. I also don't believe Nebula is affiliated with Ronan in the comics. Nebula is a space pirate in the comics; in the movie, she's an angry chick with daddy issues. Not the best upgrade for the character.

We can forgive all that, though. The movie was mainly about setting up the good guys, not the bad guys. The first of any superhero movie series usually doesn't have a very good bad guy, to make room for the good guy's character development. Iron Man had Obadiah Stane, one of Jeff Bridges' least memorable characters. Captain America: The First Avenger had Red Skull, a very phoned-in performance from Hugo Weaving. Batman Begins had Ra's al Ghul, who, while not a bad character, was definitely not as memorable as the Joker or Bane from the second and third movies. Loki seems to be the exception, and even then, he wasn't at his strongest in the first Thor movie.
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