Enough is enough

[Neonivek]

Yeah the Grand Accuser at least makes sense in that he has almost always been an antagonist... But that really is as far as it goes.

Sometimes I think it is because they don't know how to handle certain villains.

Galactus is probably the one villain none of these movies should touch... because he isn't really a good action movie villain. Heck in the cartoon they had to seriously downgrade his heralds the first time and then make him a complete moron who doesn't know how to use his own technology the second.

Yet he is always the villain everyone wants to use eventually. In that respect why not just make Abraxis or Shuma the main villain?

You know what villain I wish was one of the villains for the Avengers movie? Dr. Doom. Too bad that is impossible. One cartoon did Dr. Doom right, make him seem always one step ahead and even when you trick him he either still won or you broke even. The other (which is considered a continuation of that series... by less talented people) sort of made him a blowheart buffoon who is constantly toyed with by the Avengers.

Still though I am DREADING the Justice League movie and Batman Versus Superman movie with every fiber of my being... Since I don't have much faith they will handle any of these characters well. Heck Wonderwoman and Aquaman especially I am expecting nothing good from. (never mind that Superman has kind of become Batman 2.0 so his "hope" of the trinity is kind of questionable)

[Numbers]

About Superman basically being Batman 2.0...

...this video sums it up perfectly. (Note that this came out when the release date for Batman v. Superman was still scheduled for 2015, hence the title card at the end.)

Given that they've said that Dr. Doom in the new Fantastic Four reboot is literally a blogger whose username is "Dr. Doom," I think it's pretty safe to say that we won't get a good live-action Dr. Doom for a long, long time. The villains in the X-Men movies are quite good, however, garish costumes aside (that Juggernaut costume, man).

The villains in The Amazing Spider-Man movies are wonderfully amateurish. You know you're in trouble when Willem Dafoe hamming it up in one of the least dignified roles of his career is a much better Green Goblin than your "realistic, grounded" one is. It doesn't help that the new Green Goblin has been downgraded from "tormented scientist" to "pissy teenager." The Lizard was incredibly forgettable, I couldn't stand Electro, and the Rhino is probably the worst supervillain I've seen on the big screen in years.

[Neonivek]

You know... I could understand changing it so Dr.Doom's last name isn't "Von Doom" and possibly giving him some other source for his name.

But a blogger? Dr.Doom before turning evil is supposed to be brilliant.

Ok OK... my naïve hope is that maybe Dr.Doom is a brilliant renaissance man who also has a blog where he goes by the name of Dr.Doom.

Dr. Doom isn't like most villains where you can just blandly execute him. He is like the Joker, and if he doesn't steal the show from the actual hero a few times... you didn't do your job.

Otherwise all you have is some scientist in super armor.

[Numbers]

Well, it's not likely that the new Dr. Doom will be any good, but we can always hope. The old one had problems, too. You know you're in trouble when the bad guy is more sympathetic than the good guys. Doom was only the villain in the early Fantastic Four movies because the heroes were idiots.

There's been a leaked photo of the new Doom costume on the Internet. And it...



...looks pretty bad. Is he supposed to look like a mummy?

[Neonivek]

Dr. Doom being sympathetic isn't tough as he has many admirable traits. I like it when writers don't forget the nuance to his character such as his genuine care for Latveria, or the fact that his plans for the world are not an illusion. He was horrifically out of character in Fantastic Four 2...

Looking at that picture... and OWWW it almost physically pains me to see that.

Don't get me wrong the comics often don't do Dr. Doom justice... but it doesn't mean I don't know when he is done right.

The issue with Dr.Doom is usually one of three things
1) They make him too villainous: He genuinely does believe he can help the world and probably can AND his goal is to prove his superiority to Reed Richards. As well he takes great care of Latveria and will help out sometimes if he feels he can lord it over people.
2) They make him too sympathetic: Dr.Doom's scars are his own fault, his vendetta against Reed Richards is his pride being incapable of taking fault. He isn't sympathetic in that you are meant to feel sorry for his situation, he is sympathetic in that as a villain he can be outright heroic. There is a genuinely good person within Dr.Doom. Don't make him the woobie.
3) Making Dr.Doom so stupid: Look, you don't "outsmart" Dr.Doom unless you have an amazingly written plot. You better have some good reason for Dr.Doom to have egg on his face. If the data disk you gave him was secretly a virus, sure... let him believe it is the real disk only to see it is a virus... Don't actually let the virus wipe out his hard drive with him yelling to the sky. Let him effortlessly remove the virus and say a cool line. Yeah the heroes outsmarted him, but it leaves Dr.Doom some Dignity. Never remove his dignity.

[Shalkar]

I don't think there will be any problem with tsl and the kq2015 game. What ever happens with kq2015 the people
who will be playing tsl episode 5 will be people who have appreciated the previous episodes.
And I also enjoy playing the fan made kq games over the originals.

That only depends heavily on how long it will take the dev team to finish and release Episode 5 and how long the interest in TSL can be kept or otherwise held.

For instance: Half-Life 2. Episode 2 was the last instalment of the series which saw its release back in autumn 2007, which is already over seven years ago (already longer then between HL1 and HL2). The point I'm trying to convey here, is that the commercial Half-Life is a much stronger name then the freeware TSL will ever be and the longer Episode 5 takes, the more difficult it will become to spark any interest in a larger audience, especially when stronger titles are released in the same period . . .

There is no more interest in the project?  Smh

[Numbers]

Nobody said that. What they said is that the project could potentially lose interest from its audience. And granted, given how long it's been since episode 4 was released, it's probably accurate that TSL has lost quite a few fans. I wonder how many average people who played it even remember it now.

[Neonivek]

To admit I have a hard time remembering when the episodes start or end.

Which I don't know is a compliment, as they blend the episodes in so perfectly that one episode just slips into the next (HMMM TELLTALE YOU THINK YOU CAN LEARN SOMETHING HERE!?!), or if it means the episodes are so samey that one cannot tell the difference.

[Numbers]

Well, it doesn't help that every episode takes place in the same location, just slightly bigger each time.

[Neonivek]

Well, it doesn't help that every episode takes place in the same location, just slightly bigger each time.

To admit though it does make each game feel bigger then the last.

As you have all the previous locations and this one... yet an expanded list of what to do without you needing to re-tred for the extra items you may have missed.

Yeah I don't make my dislike of Telltale hidden. Mostly because
A) Other then Daedelic they are the only ones prolific in making Adventure games
B) They really should know better.
C) I hope they eventually hear this and improve

[Numbers]

Considering this is the same group of people who not only brought us that awful Jurassic Park game, but also created fake Metacritic accounts to boost its score, I doubt they listen to anyone.

[GrahamRocks!]

*rolls eyes* ...

[Numbers]

Yes, God forbid you hear any legitimate criticism about your precious TellTale Games.

[GrahamRocks!]

Look, let me just say that what I have seen of TellTale's stuff has been pretty darn good so far. I do admit that I haven't heard many good things about Jurassic Park (which is a shame IMO since I like TT's stuff so far and happen to be a JP fan), but every other game I've heard of has been getting praise.

But, of course, you won't even grant me that when you bring up Tales of Monkey Island and that it's ugly when I say it's not and in fact, I consider it the best of the MI series.

[Numbers]

I wouldn't be so hard on you if you would just tell me why you like certain things, like King's Quest 7 and, well, any TellTale Games product. All you've ever done is go, "Well I like it!" So what if you do? I don't give a sh*t if you like things I don't like. I just don't know what on earth you see in them and would love to know what it is you like about them. I made a very thorough argument about why I don't like KQ7 a while ago and you never even tried to come to its defense. So now's your chance. Explain what it is you like about either KQ7 or TellTale Games products, I don't care which. I want to know.

[Neonivek]

I don't HATE Telltale's games...

They are just incredibly flawed.

In fact it is because I don't hate their work that it bugs me the most.

Back to the Future actually hit some great heights but never EVER continued its momentum from one episode to the next and had to do the "slow start up" every single time. The biggest shame being that its last episode was just terrible but had a great ending. Funny thing? They actually HAD a better last episode in mind but ended up not doing it because it was too expensive (you can see what they had in mind by the next episode preview... It was pretty epic)

But everytime I play their games I feel like they would rather just make games like Heavy Rain rather then games like Monkey Island. In fact, all their "best" games have pretty much been Heavy Rain. The Wolf Among Us was interactive Fiction. Heck for a few of their games it would have been a drastic improvement.

After playing SBCG4AP and getting up to Dangeresk 3... I was all gleeful because as a premise this was going to be awesome! only to be blown away by its lack of being awesome... with many of its jokes falling flat because the sight gag was too slow. Often the cheapness of the fake movie was obviously because it would be too expensive to put in the game itself... and the puzzles being soo bad.

I guess what I mean is

I am mad at Telltale games because their games are nothing but 6/10s and are the representatives of the entire genre OR Great Interactive Fiction games... When I know they could make great stuff.

(by the by... On my rating system 5 is ok with the game leaving no real impact... To give you a frame of reference. I am not "anything below 7 is bad")

[Numbers]

I personally subscribe to the Rotten Tomatoes school of scoring, wherein a score of 59/100 or below just isn't good enough.

[Neonivek]

I don't know how people pay full price for them.

I play them at discount and I feel at the lesser price I've got my money's worth... barely.

[Jack Stryker]

A wise man named Bob Chipman, better known as "MovieBob", once said:

"Life is short.  Like what you like."

[Neonivek]

A wise man named Bob Chipman, better known as "MovieBob", once said:

"Life is short.  Like what you like."

I shouldn't be so antagonistic towards people who like Telltale games.

Especially not towards GrahamRocks who... well... rocks.

Someday I think they will make good point and clicks that meet my personal standards... but not today.

But for now they are passable and more then good enough for their many fans.