Kings Quest 2015

[Lambonius]

It has already been stated by the developers that each chapter of the game takes place over the course of Graham's life, and that they're working around the original stories.

If you look at the different portraits that show up in the mirror when you select different chapters, it's pretty clear that he's a kid in this first one, a young man in the second one, about the age we know him from KQ5 in the third one, an older bearded man in the 4th one, and Grampa Graham in the last one.

[GrahamRocks!]

Well, you just took the words out of my mouth there.

I wonder, assuming the next chapter IS indeed KQ2 based, what Gwen's trouble is this time. She got a crush on somebody?

[Bludshot]

Oh. >_>

Well good luck with that TOG, I'll probably wait still all the episodes are out to check it out then.

[daventry]

If Chapter 2 is about Kolyma and Valanice, then Chapter 1 shouldve been about All 3 Treasures and Graham becoming King, since it would be stupid to show KQ2015 to New Players that doesent know what KQ is that would Alienate the Franchise where TOG said you dont need to play the Old Games in witch KQ2015 Skips the Point of the Stories in Graham's Life.

You cant tell New Players bits and pieces of the Franchise and skip ahead, so i still say in Chapter 2 we will go to Daventry where King Edward tells Graham to go get the Mirror and the Chest and the Shield, even in Chapter 1 there are Two Locations where Old Graham tells the Player that we arent suppose to be here yet that is meant for another day.

I also have a feeling that we will start Chapter 2 with Young Graham without Old Graham telling the tales, because he might Die where at the End of Chapter 1 the Children were called to Old Graham in witch Valanice might tell the Tales of how Graham met her and then in Chapter 3 it will be Alexander and then in Chapter 4 Rosella and then in Chapter 5 something in witch the Epilogue Concludes where the Children stands at the bed of Old Graham in Mourning in witch we will watch an Emotional Funural that closes the book on Kings Quest.

[Birdy]

But what's the point in rehashing existing games?

[daventry]

I dont mind Rehashing (AGDI KQ2VGA is a fantastic example), just dont tell quart of a Story and then throw us with something completely New where we still want to know what happened before.

[GrahamRocks!]

But... the thing is that everyone knows the story of KQ1 already...

I just don't get you... *blinks in astonishment*

[daventry]

Imagine showing your 10 Year Old Kid KQ2015 or Friends of yours that never heard of a KQ Game and then give them KQ1VGA by AGDI, they would say KQ2015 is Crap, because People would waste $40 on Chapters that tells Quart of a Story in witch the Originals are 10x better, since TOG states you dont need the originals to play KQ2015 and yet People assume Chapter 2 will be a whole New Story that completely Skips the cruecial part of Graham finding the rest of the Treasures and Becoming King. Unless thats a Cutscene in Chapter 2 and we jump right into the Next Adventure already as King on Kolyma in finding Valanice.

I firmly hold my ground and statement that Chapter 2 will be where Graham is being greeted by King Edward and then we find the Treasures of Daventry.

[Birdy]

A bit of exposition could easily fix that. Not too much, but just enough to put things into context. I'd honestly rather see something new revolving around these characters. Think about it- In the other games, the royal family is hardly ever seen together. If you put some stuff inbetween that we haven't seen yet, we could see different interactions between characters and such... It could be interesting.

[daventry]

Now thats something i really want where they sit with the two children and continue the Tales of Graham right after he's Death in Chapter 2 or the Epilogue i suppose.

No way are we going to see Old Graham throughout the Chapters in Bed when he is clearly dying.

I think TOG said that the rest of the Family will be in the rest of the Chapters or they want to put them there.

KQ2015 shouldent just focus on the Magic Mirror where Graham becomes King even though the Land is Defenseless and Poor so to speak, hence the Magic Chest of Gold and the Magic Shield.

I am perfectly fine if TOG skips the Pouch of Diamonds in a stump or Golden Acorns around a tree or a Golden Egg in a Nest, because those things were silly in KQ1 back in the day, i mean every citizen would go on a hunting spree at every Squirrel and make them Extincted to find a Golden Nut. Plus finding the Bowl in the middle of nowhere that gives you magic soup is dumb too, since its never explained where it came from in the first place or how it got there.

[Birdy]

That would be awesome... I really want to see Alexander and Rosella show up.

[GrahamRocks!]

Dude... we went back to the well in chapter 1 for a reason. There's NO reason to do a prologue where Graham goes to The Land of the Clouds or the Realm of the Leprechauns because they're not important to the story that Graham is trying to tell, and he's trying to MOVE ON to the next stage in his life. Going backwards AGAIN to when he's searching for the Treasures would negate that and make it seem like he's stuck in that loop of telling the story of how he became King over and over again. And that would be bad storytelling from both TOG and Graham.

Also, "He's just old," to quote Gart. There's NO way they're going to kill Graham immediately in chapter 2. Have his condition worsen as the chapters go on? Maybe. But suddenly kill him when we just got introduced to him again as an old man in chapter 1? No. And while I'm sure Alexander could tell a good story, I doubt that Valanice could do it nearly as well as Graham. You know why? Because she's NOT an adventurer and aside from 7, never will be one. She has no life experience to pull from to exaggerate to Gwendolyn, because what was she doing in 2? She was stuck in a tower. She ONLY has one side of the story, and frankly, Graham's is the more interesting one.

With how well the game has faired so far, with, y'know, people judging it on their own merits and some have NOT played the series, I say that's false. Wouldn't chapter 1 make people want to, y'know, actually PLAY KQ1 for themselves to get what happened next? Back during E3 and even before it, there were people who reviewed the demo they got, and some of them admitted, "I have not played the series/played any adventure games myself" but they said that this game might make them want to check it out. That's positive. That's a VERY good sign! They WANT to be Questors like us. They want to see where Graham's adventures lead him next. And just having them get remade over and over again is bound to get tiresome after awhile.

[daventry]

Dude... we went back to the well in chapter 1 for a reason. There's NO reason to do a prologue where Graham goes to The Land of the Clouds or the Realm of the Leprechauns because they're not important to the story that Graham is trying to tell, and he's trying to MOVE ON to the next stage in his life.

TOG should've done a better Job with the Ending Cutscene of Chapter 1 where we see King Edward in the Mirror while Old Graham just say that he went on to find the Chest and Shield where we see him become King. That would've made so much sense and then i would shut up about the Chest and Shield. 

[Birdy]

Dude... we went back to the well in chapter 1 for a reason. There's NO reason to do a prologue where Graham goes to The Land of the Clouds or the Realm of the Leprechauns because they're not important to the story that Graham is trying to tell, and he's trying to MOVE ON to the next stage in his life. Going backwards AGAIN to when he's searching for the Treasures would negate that and make it seem like he's stuck in that loop of telling the story of how he became King over and over again. And that would be bad storytelling from both TOG and Graham.

Also, "He's just old," to quote Gart. There's NO way they're going to kill Graham immediately in chapter 2. Have his condition worsen as the chapters go on? Maybe. But suddenly kill him when we just got introduced to him again as an old man in chapter 1? No. And while I'm sure Alexander could tell a good story, I doubt that Valanice could do it nearly as well as Graham. You know why? Because she's NOT an adventurer and aside from 7, never will be one. She has no life experience to pull from to exaggerate to Gwendolyn, because what was she doing in 2? She was stuck in a tower. She ONLY has one side of the story, and frankly, Graham's is the more interesting one.

With how well the game has faired so far, with, y'know, people judging it on their own merits and some have NOT played the series, I say that's false. Wouldn't chapter 1 make people want to, y'know, actually PLAY KQ1 for themselves to get what happened next? Back during E3 and even before it, there were people who reviewed the demo they got, and some of them admitted, "I have not played the series/played any adventure games myself" but they said that this game might make them want to check it out. That's positive. That's a VERY good sign! They WANT to be Questors like us. They want to see where Graham's adventures lead him next. And just having them get remade over and over again is bound to get tiresome after awhile.

Exactly. In fact, it was the announcement of this game that got me into the others in the first place. If someone is curious/confused, there are still 7 other games to look into. But from the looks of this game's premise, that's not required.

[Numbers]

Gods above...I'm gone for like five minutes and this place turns into a shithole. Daventry, I don't know what you're blathering on about, but stop. Nobody cares about seeing the magic chest and shield in this game. The mirror is the only item that's ever important throughout the series regardless, hence why the prologue of the game has you fetching it, and why Grahampa and Gwen are looking into it as he narrates the story.

And yes, I've been watching a walkthrough of this game on YouTube over the past couple of days. The playthrough only shows one of the three possible paths to take, so I'll let you know how I feel about it once I'm finished watching and have seen roughly one third of the game.

[GrahamRocks!]

Grahampa! Nice nickname, I wanna use that one!

And yeah, good luck Numbers! I wasn't really mad at you, just very confused because you presumably hated something but didn't explain why like you normally do. Glad things have settled down. Hope you enjoy what you see, but if you don't then that's okay, just explain why.

[Bludshot]

I can see this game being used as an abridged version of the KQ story so far, because frankly there is ton of stuff in the old games that just isn't very memorable. I really don't see the point of Graham recounting the one time he killed Dracula. (TOG please don't have Grahambrush kill Dracula)

[Lambonius]

I just remembered why I stopped posting here for so long.

[KatieHal]

Well, that didn't take long.

Numbers: You're on a one week ban. Treat other forum members with respect, regardless of if you agree with them or are feeling impatient. Also, profanity, again.

[daventry]

More Proof that the Chest and Shield matters, even though like you guys say the Mirror was the only important thing through the KQ Series and maybe they wont be in Chapter 2, here at the Game Chapter Menu, you can clearly see the Magic Chest with the Magic Shield and the Magic Mirror, plus right after you made your choice with the Dragon at the beginning of the Game, Gwendolyn states that King Edward was so proud of Graham for finding the 3 lost Treasures of Daventry, so my statement stays, we will go after the Treasures in Chapter 2, otherwise an Extended Chapter 1 Cuscene Ending where the Chest and Shield with Edward can be seen in the Mirror is good enough for me so we can get a New story for Chapter 2.