The Big Console Debate!

[racx_00]

Yeah, although the N64 was a let down I still believe that there were some great and funny games

[dew7]

Best Console Games of All Time in Dew's Opinion:

Chrono Trigger -- it was awesome -- I loved beating the Lavos core and the graphics were awesome, imo on the original Super NES -- I helped my best friend Brian play it and he beat it with my help on his Playstation 2 in Final Fantasy Chronicles.  I loved the added cut-scene graphics but there were about two or three that we were unable to unlock after beating the game  I guess we did not beat it 100% you could say, :>

Final Fantasy 7 --- Aeris was too cool and I wished that she didn't have to die -- her character was so well done in my opinion that my heart was all aflutter and light by seeing her and having her in the game -- Sephiroth was really tough to beat imo and I remember having to go back and get my characters stronger to destroy him finally --- I wish I could locate the game that had the data saved but it is probably erased and I do not want to go to the time or trouble of trying to beat that great game again.    

Anyway, I am going to pass on the DS -- the Game Boy Advance SP is great and I don't care much for the DS and its two screens

I may save up and buy the PSP but I have not decided as of yet -- I think it comes out in March but I am unsure

I own the original Nintendo, the super Nintendo, Playstation 1 and 2, Game Boy Advance SP, the original Gameboy, and GameCube.

I sold the original Game Boy Advance towards the Game Boy Advance SP because even with an add-on light this console was too dark and crap in my opion.

I skipped out on the X-box because of the expense, it is not my cup of tea, I can play it at a friend's house, and the type of games are kinda like PC Games and usually involve games that I am not very good at.

Anyway, I now yield the floor and Yay it's Friday!!

     

[Jeysie]

Alex: All the N64 games you listed do/did look very nice, but they're also all games where if you're bad at actiony-stuff you won't get much fun out of them. (FPS, fighting games, platformers, action-adventures, real-time-strategy, etc. I usually suck at all of them...) About the only game I ever play for the N64 is Mario Party (and Harrison usually kicks my butt six ways from Sunday).

Like most things in my life, the N64 game selection works for 99.9% of people, and I'm in the 0.1%. Nothing to be done except move on. (shrug)

Interesting point about the GBA-on-Gamecube thing. They had something similar for regular GB and the SNES many moon ago. I'll have to look into that.

And believe me, I haven't chucked out my old stuff. However, as Amarinda said, my old stuff is getting worse for the wear. The NES is all but completely broken.

Speaking of Amarinda, I didn't mean that Nintendo developed an image of being a bad company. I meant... I've been a subscriber to Nintendo Power since almost Day One, and after the N64 got released, there was a definite switch of feel of Nintendo trying to emulate the in-your-face attitude that Sega and Sony already had been going with. They may have very well changed back again... I unsubscribed after it came apparent that I was out of the loop because the market no longer wanted games I could play. (Which is why I also seldom play new computer games any more, actually.)

As for 3D graphics, IMHO it's only recently that 3D is starting to have the same quality that well-done 2D graphics have had for years.

Peace & Luv, Liz

[Drunken Chinchilla]

Ahhhh Liz I seem to remember you saying before your ole' hand eye co-ordination wasnt too sharp

Hehe I also agree about "Official" magazines. No matter what console they'll be filled with tripe and annoying fanboy ravings. I stick to independant ones and recently Edge (I think you get that in the US too...).

Dew, I'm not getting at you or anything but what about the two screens turns you off? The minute I saw them there were THOUSANDS of ideas spinning through my head, like if it were to link up to Nintendos next home console you could use it as a mirror to look round corners with a motion sensor cartidge in it similar to the ones released on the GBA recently.

I reckon the next year or so will be some REALLY exciting times for gaming in both handhelds and home consoles. I think the thing that i may be most looking forward to is the sucsessor to the GBA. The DS is the third platform rather than a new GBA (or so nintendo have been saying) So i can't even imagine what their R&D department is brewing up for that!

EDIT: Ta to Cat for understanding Alexish again ;p

[Louisiana Night]

Personally I wish the consoles with CD-based games had legal emulators that played the original media (and cartridge consoles had legal emulators and for-fee ROMs). What they lost in console sales they'd make in game sales. (Let's face it, a PC geek who doesn't already have a given console likely wasn't going to buy one anyway, but they might like the games.) Seeing as how many companies take a razor-thin margin or a loss on the actual console anyway so they can rake in the money on games, this doesn't seem farfetched. (Believe it or not, the profit margin for a store selling a $300 PS2 console was, at most, $5. The margin for the console company was likely just as bad.)

I think the PSX and Saturn are the only CD-based consoles( VGS and Bleem! were the only emulators out of them, that didn't require the console's BIOS, which made them legal, whether or not you owned a PSX ).
The PSX2 and Xbox use the DVD format( although I think Microsoft put some sort of protection onto the discs, so most DVD-drives can't read the data ) . All other "optical disk"-based console games, couldn't be used on a PC, off the disc( even if the companies decided to make emulators ). Also, Sony says that the PSX3 will be using Blue-Ray, and since the HD-DVD format is now being added to some PCs, I doubt it will be possible to use them directly from a disc either, on a PC.  

but yeah, considering Sony already has a PSX emulator( that they stopped selling ), I'd like them to start selling it again ( and make a new one for the PSX2 ).

I like the idea of being able to buy roms also( though most of the emulators are legal, I doubt they'll do it anytime soon... due to their fear of piracy ).

and then there's OpenX D K, the freeware/legal Xbox development kit. ( kinda the reverse of what you said about console games on the PC, but still ) .

***simplifies the problem, and starts looking up the prices of consoles

PCs are much better in that regards. Granted, Linux and Mac support still sucks, but you still at least have the option of trying to play the game in a legal Windows emulator.

Older games mostly work( at least 3 years old )... it's just the new ones that are a pain.

"That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it"

Plus my old consoles are starting to wheeze and ask for Social Security. My NES in particular requires arcane rituals at specific phases of the moon to get working.

Yeah. I can't remember if they were always that hard to get games working on, or if it's age that does it.

[Louisiana Night]

and I've gotta agree with Alex on this one. The GC has many titles that are non-action ( bad term to use, but I don't care ).

They also have some that are just plain WEIRD ( which you'd also probably like ) .


and seeing how these posts make no sense to me, and I don't want to decrease my postcount, I'll just leave with these words...

Wabbajack

Wabbajack

Wabbajack

 

[dew7]

X-Box 2 rumored to use ATI graphics that are built in-house at ATI as compared to Nvidia that are out-sourced and not as good video chips imo.      

An Nvidia graphics card once caused havoc on one of my PC's and I know quite a bit about computers.  I had to use GoBack after removing the card and reinstalling my old 3dfx card.  I will stick with ATI because their cards are superior, imo and they are a Canadian company and my brother-in-law is an awesome Canadian.

[dew7]

Anyone hear about Microsoft's X - Box problems in regards to power cords causing consoles to catch fire.  Go to XBox site or call your local Microsoft office for a new one.      

[Oldbushie]

The Nintendo Revolution is gonna rock.

*can't wait to play Super Nintendo games in rendered 3d* Or is that just a silly made up rumor?

[Jump In Well]

The Nintendo Revolution is gonna rock.

*can't wait to play Super Nintendo games in rendered 3d* Or is that just a silly made up rumor?

I've only heard that they are going to render the original mario bros. game in 3D, with same gameplay, but thats all we've heard from the nintendo pres.

[Louisiana Night]

So, what's everyone's opinion on the Xbox360?

Personally, I don't care much for it. The graphics are good... but it won't be long before its competition is here(with graphics that may be hard to compare). Its game lineup is good(but not great), but you can get the best of what they have to offer for the PC(Oblivion anyone? ). So I'm not interested in the games they have to offer. The price is high, but I'm betting the PS3 will be higher(The Xbox uses cheaper tech.). The Revolution, I'm guessing, will be cheaper than either(they haven't failed yet to make their consoles affordable).

On the other hand, me likes the Xbox360 controller(it has a PC version). It's not bulky like the Xbox's controller, its design is simple(so it won't confuse people, like the Gamecube's does at first), and it's perty.
Now if they'll just release a wireless version for the PC...

[racx_00]

Personally I prefer it overall the others so far. The PS3 isn't really back compatible and that's what annoys me. None of the old memory card work with it and that means you have to keep your PS2 unless you feel like starting your games over. Maybe they will find a save transfer thing or something.

So far the Revolution still hasn't gotten me interested. So at the moment I'm caught up between the 360 and PS3.

[awesomeasapossum]

Down with Rinoa! She's the most annoying Damsel in Distress of all time!

DAISY is!

[Jafar]

Assuming you mean Princess Daisy and not Daisy Duck, she was only in distress ONCE, and it was an alien instead of Bowser, so it was new.

[Louisiana Night]

Personally I prefer it overall the others so far. The PS3 isn't really back compatible and that's what annoys me. None of the old memory card work with it and that means you have to keep your PS2 unless you feel like starting your games over. Maybe they will find a save transfer thing or something.

So far the Revolution still hasn't gotten me interested. So at the moment I'm caught up between the 360 and PS3.

Go with the PS3. Some of Microsoft's first consoles were buggy(and had to be sent back by the buyers).

[Pacman928]

i'm gonna throw in my 2 cents real quick.

ps3 is gonna rock with xbox 360 coming in close second while the revolution is back at the starting line. 

the ds is ok, but the psp is better,  i didn't get it because it's too expensive for a handheld.

[Jafar]

Looks like somebody has a Sony Monkey on his back.

PSP doesn't seem to have anything we haven't already seen before on the PSX\2. Add in the lousy battery life, and it's not my handheld of choice. I admit that the DS game library is a bit low, but it still has some awesome games already out, with even more on the horizon.
As for the next consoles, I've gone over why I dislike Xbox and it's sequel several times. PS3 hasn't really impressed me yet, and it still has a few annoying issues from the last few consoles. It's way expensive too. I'll keep an open mind, but I'll probably just use the old PS2.
As for Revolution, 4 words:

SUPER SMASH BROS. THREE

[Pacman928]

so?

yeas, the psp has horrible battery life.  but it' sstill cool.(btw-i trust nintendo for handhelds)

what are your complaints about the ps3 besides the price.

[Jafar]

For one thing, it has an uncomfortable (looking) controller. And you still can't use new memory cards and other accesories with the older games, and it can be really annoying trying to find some of the old stuff. Other then that, it just doesn't really appeal to me so far, but that might change.

[Louisiana Night]

You forgot that it uses Blue-Ray... BLUE-RAY MUST DIE!

Mark my words... they'll try to kill all modded/altered PS3s with those things.