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The Silver Lining

Started by Yonkey, December 09, 2005, 10:02:24 AM

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Quote from: Yonkey on December 09, 2005, 05:14:40 PM
It's too long.  We're going to be changing our domain from tsl-game.com in the future, and echasl.com isn't exactly easy to remember. :P

Understandable.  But Every Cloak has a Silver Lining is just so endearing as in line with the original King's Quest title puns, which The Silver Lining loses.  Maybe you could just use both as official names for the game, using each when its more appropriate?


I'm also kind of curious why it took 3 months for VUG to just say, "Change your name."  Will you guys be able to elaborate on the details of this later?

Josh

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Clearly there was more to the deal than "change the name", but yes, I see the irony.
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Say

Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
This is a huge inspiration. The whole story of the fan project working so hard, being canceled and now getting a second chance. I would LOVE to hear more about this. An article published by the team that explains what happened, how and why things worked out for the best. I think there could be some great lessons and advice for people like myself, who want to create fan games but don't want to have our work canceled.

Stephen Totilo from Mtv did quite a good job, at the moment. Although we will have more information coming.

Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Check it out guys, Mtv did a special about us.
I'm so glad that I can FINALLY talk about VU and about Mtv.
here it is

Mtv Article

Thanks to Stephen Totilo about such wonderful work and patient about this.

Go read it now!! :)





Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
The announcement mentions a "fan license". Is that something official from VUG that can be obtained by other developers working on fan games?

Actually no, sorry.



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TheReturnofDMD

What is the fan license exactly?
Congratulations POS
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Quote from: threej_lc on December 09, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
Understandable.  But Every Cloak has a Silver Lining is just so endearing as in line with the original King's Quest title puns, which The Silver Lining loses.  Maybe you could just use both as official names for the game, using each when its more appropriate?
Directors already discussed and agreed on this matter, although thanks for caring and giving an input on it.

Quote from: threej_lc on December 09, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
I'm also kind of curious why it took 3 months for VUG to just say, "Change your name."  Will you guys be able to elaborate on the details of this later?

It didn't take them 3 months, in fact, they provided the C&D letter at the end of September. We didn't expect this to be the outcome of it, but we had the oportunity that VU would be quite kind and open minded to discuss anything about it, so one thing led to another and we were discussing a license. I wish fans would understand that:

1.- We were not going to give up, unlike what so many thought. The fact that we agreed to do as VU told us to was because we weren't going to continue to do this wrong, we wanted to make things right.

2.- This wasn't planned, so NO, it didn't take them 3 months, in fact, took them like a week to review material and say "yes, now let's talk about that license". And in fact, I can't say much about the legal agreement yet hence we're even still discussing those matters at the moment, we just had approval to come through with the news (finally).

3.- We got truly lucky they were open minded even after the C&D letter, and we're even more lucky to have such great fans who DID help on this situation, and push them to realize that maybe there is more than what they thought there was.

I hope this has answered some of your questions.


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Say

Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on December 09, 2005, 05:54:22 PM
What is the fan license exactly?

Let me put it this way, we have their approval to continue legally.

Is this a new rule that they will give license to everyone who starts working on their IP? -> No.


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Andy Roark

Excellent work in getting the game approved.

At my advanced age, Christmas isn't what it once was but thanks to you guys and the excellent folks at VU, I got a serious Christmas present.

Thanks to eveyone who stayed on this.

I'm looking forward to the results  ;D

Andy

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It certainly sounds like, from the team member forum posts and the MTV article, that part of the reason for VU wanting to talk was that the team demonstrated a product of real quality. I think they should be extremely proud of that.
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Say

As a PR Director, I have a long story, I started as regular staff in art department way back then when Cesar had started leading the team, working for character design and whatnot, evolved into lead colorist, then moved on to PR department and nowdays, after ALL I've seen and ALL I've done, I can say I'm proud of this team, we've certainly got further than what I thought we would ever.

I also must say that VU Rep in both departments were extremely nice and kind to us, tons of grattitude to those guys, really.


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Zelly

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
I am so happy that this worked out like it did.
Congrats POS, I really admire your dedication to this project. I know alot of others would have given up long before now.
You guys are the best!  ;D ;D ;D

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Tage

YAAAAY!!  Such happy news!  I don't think I'll care if I fail Calculus this semester anymore!  I was SO depressed about the C&D...  Congratulations to all the people working on the project!  I can't imagine how happy you are if I'm THIS happy!  n.n!

P.S. I faintly remember hearing Cesar had quit after the C&D...was that true?  And if it was true, is he coming back?

koko_99_2001

He definitely did not quit! Though production on the game did.
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Say

Quote from: Tage on December 09, 2005, 06:31:57 PM
YAAAAY!!  Such happy news!  I don't think I'll care if I fail Calculus this semester anymore!  I was SO depressed about the C&D...  Congratulations to all the people working on the project!  I can't imagine how happy you are if I'm THIS happy!  n.n!
I hope you won't fail Calculus! so, good luck with that. And yes, the team and the fans are amazingly happy right now :)


Quote from: Tage on December 09, 2005, 06:31:57 PM
P.S. I faintly remember hearing Cesar had quit after the C&D...was that true?  And if it was true, is he coming back?
Cesar never left the team, where did you hear such? lol. So, if he never quit, he's already there.




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Little Blue Nightingale

*SQUEALLL* I just finished jumping up and down and running around the house screaming. LOL This is the best news ever! And it's definately made my day, heck, it's made my Christmas! THANK YOU VIVENDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *SQUEALS MORE!* Congrats you guys! *hugs everyone*

*runs off to get rid of the "dang you vivendi" comment on my myspace page*

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Cheers to "A Silver Lining"! Hooray!
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Quote from: koko_99_2001 on December 09, 2005, 04:58:39 PM
Yes, PLEASE email them! We need to let them know how much we appreciate them giving Phoenix Online such a wonderful opportunity! :D

Everyone email!

After all the emails, letters, & petitions, we should show our gratitude for being heard and allowed to continue!  8)

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Way to go POS!!!!  :D
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A light from the shadows shall spring
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QuoteI hope you won't fail Calculus! so, good luck with that. And yes, the team and the fans are amazingly happy right now
Thank you very much!  You're probably the first person that hoped I didn't fail (other than me, of course)!  Haha.  Sadly...this is my 3rd time taking Calculus, I dropped the course the first 2 times.  I always said I'd kill myself if I didn't pass it this semester, but...I can't anymore.  Not until I play The Silver Lining (nice name  n.n) at least!  =P

QuoteCesar never left the team, where did you hear such? lol. So, if he never quit, he's already there.
You know...good question.  I have no idea where I heard that...  But I do believe I DID hear that somewhere.  I am very relieved it wasn't true though!  =D

P.S. Take your time with the release!  As anxious as we are to play it, screw us if we can't wait another year (even if it probably won't take THAT long, but you get what I'm saying right?  =P)!  Always ignore impatient fans (even if none have showed their face yet)!  (I'm done using parentheses)  (oh wait...one more thing...)

(GOOD LUCK ON FINALS)

Reid

Thanks for the quick reply. Nice article by MTV.

-Reid

Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 05:48:26 PM
Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
This is a huge inspiration. The whole story of the fan project working so hard, being canceled and now getting a second chance. I would LOVE to hear more about this. An article published by the team that explains what happened, how and why things worked out for the best. I think there could be some great lessons and advice for people like myself, who want to create fan games but don't want to have our work canceled.

Stephen Totilo from Mtv did quite a good job, at the moment. Although we will have more information coming.

Quote from: Say on December 09, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Check it out guys, Mtv did a special about us.
I'm so glad that I can FINALLY talk about VU and about Mtv.
here it is

Mtv Article

Thanks to Stephen Totilo about such wonderful work and patient about this.

Go read it now!! :)





Quote from: Reid on December 09, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
The announcement mentions a "fan license". Is that something official from VUG that can be obtained by other developers working on fan games?

Actually no, sorry.



awesomeasapossum

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Just got the news.
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Long live The Silver Lining!

Pacman928

i just heard and this is definitley a "yay moment"

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