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Re: Progress???
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2006, 01:18:30 PM »
We will be giving a progress update very soon, most likely this month or next.  Keep an eye on the Journal and subscribe to the TSL Newsletter if you haven't already. :)

In the mean time, we invite you to participate in other areas of the Forum.  The Off-Topic and Haven forums are the most active and entertaining. :)
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where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2006, 10:58:11 AM »
Is there an update coming that tells fans where the development of shadows is at.

An update that discuss the best guess timeline for major milestones leading to a release.

I know it is not possible to give exact dates. 

I also know that unforeseen technical issues, changes in personal commitment, legal issues will disrupt a schedule.  When this happens, pass this information along to give us a feel for what is going on. 


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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2006, 11:09:48 AM »
:suffer: I don't really think they're legally allowed to disclose how close they are to beta testing. :-\

Even if they were, they probably wouldn't because VG has to take a look at it before they're allowed to release Shadows (as you addressed :)).   
 
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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2006, 03:50:41 PM »
If they can’t discuss the status of the project, I was not aware of that.  I don’t understand the reasoning behind it, but never mind that. 

If they can, I don’t see why they wouldn’t.  If they are just waiting on VG, that’s big information in terms on what the status is.  There isn’t any profit to be gained or lost on this project that would govern what type of information is released that competitors can get. It’s a fan made game.

Of course I guess there could still be valuable business information VG is getting out of this and therefore they will control everything. 

Shadows could be years away for all we know.  I think lack of information is in part why activity in the forum is on a decline. :-[

Anyway, I do wish everyone involved in working on this project well.  If there is anyone still working on it…..


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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2006, 12:05:58 PM »
We are not legally entitled to discuss legal details but we can talk about pretty much anything else. The fact that we can't provide any solid date is because once it's done we somehow need a big fat "yes please go ahead" from those who really own the rights. Even though there isn't any profit involved we are within legal terms, and it doesn't matter if we are a fan game or not we are still under it.

The lack of information is not just because we are not in any place to provide any, but also the fact that it is December and it is always a dead month for all of us. If you expect us to be working full time even on 25th and 31st I believe it is as unrealistic as your real boss asking you to come in to work that day without paying you at all for that work. Just yesterday I got the leave of absence of almost 80% of my own team, and it is no joke. Sad to say I can't force anyone to do anything because I don't pay them, all I can say is that I am seriously thankful they do the work they do and that they even choose to come back next January to work for free with me. Imagine this same domino effect on Art, Programming and it goes on.

There is a lot of people working in this project and even though there hasn't been any major update or big event any moment in the last couple months doesn't mean production is dead. Far from it people has been working insanely hard to get things done within time and availability. I can honestly say this year has been crazy for the team because we have had people going away for real life issues as even troubles with our server company. Even though we have faced a lot of inconvenient that seriously slowed us down, we are still trying to do our best with what it is.

I am deeply sorry there hasn't been as many updates as people seem to crave for, but we are just being fair here for everyone. Personally I keep telling the Directors to come and post in the journal but most of them are even impossible to keep up by mail as it is, they are working so hard to get things working it's surreal. I simply can't just twist their arm for having them come here as knowing how limited their time is. I am aware the production is moving on fairly well, we did slow down big time for a lot of legal drama as well as random inconvenient events we never expected to have this year. I just can't wait to have some updates myself, but I simply can't just yet because there are some things that need to be taken care of before we give out a big announcement or I get ahead of myself and just promote it out. Remember we announce everything here first, so, whoever who is registered in the Newsletter should be able to get the news right in their inbox as it happens.

All I ask of you for now is patience, soon enough I will be able to give out much more information, but for the moment being this is as much as I can share with all of you. Thanks for the support everyone and Happy Holidays :).


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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2006, 10:49:12 AM »
We are not legally entitled to discuss legal details but we can talk about pretty much anything else. The fact that we can't provide any solid date is because once it's done we somehow need a big fat "yes please go ahead" from those who really own the rights. Even though there isn't any profit involved we are within legal terms, and it doesn't matter if we are a fan game or not we are still under it.


I understand, and I wouldn't ask the team for VG's status, only the work the team is doing.

The lack of information is not just because we are not in any place to provide any, but also the fact that it is December and it is always a dead month for all of us. If you expect us to be working full time even on 25th and 31st I believe it is as unrealistic as your real boss asking you to come in to work that day without paying you at all for that work. Just yesterday I got the leave of absence of almost 80% of my own team, and it is no joke. Sad to say I can't force anyone to do anything because I don't pay them, all I can say is that I am seriously thankful they do the work they do and that they even choose to come back next January to work for free with me. Imagine this same domino effect on Art, Programming and it goes on.

I don't expect anything. I know the hard work and sacrifice the team is going through.  I appreciate the work that the team does.  And if they choose to contiure to do the work, i will politly ask what their status is.  Worst case scenario is they don’t want to tell me, but I know this is not the case. 

There is a lot of people working in this project and even though there hasn't been any major update or big event any moment in the last couple months doesn't mean production is dead. Far from it people has been working insanely hard to get things done within time and availability. I can honestly say this year has been crazy for the team because we have had people going away for real life issues as even troubles with our server company. Even though we have faced a lot of inconvenient that seriously slowed us down, we are still trying to do our best with what it is.

I believe you.

I am deeply sorry there hasn't been as many updates as people seem to crave for, but we are just being fair here for everyone. Personally I keep telling the Directors to come and post in the journal but most of them are even impossible to keep up by mail as it is, they are working so hard to get things working it's surreal. I simply can't just twist their arm for having them come here as knowing how limited their time is. I am aware the production is moving on fairly well, we did slow down big time for a lot of legal drama as well as random inconvenient events we never expected to have this year. I just can't wait to have some updates myself, but I simply can't just yet because there are some things that need to be taken care of before we give out a big announcement or I get ahead of myself and just promote it out. Remember we announce everything here first, so, whoever who is registered in the Newsletter should be able to get the news right in their inbox as it happens.

All I ask of you for now is patience, soon enough I will be able to give out much more information, but for the moment being this is as much as I can share with all of you. Thanks for the support everyone and Happy Holidays :).


I will be patient.  What I was asking for is probably something only the project director can provide.  Noting detailed.  Just a brief summary of what each team is doing and has left to do, VG's approval not included. 

I know what this is like.

As I see it, it’s not forgone conclusion that shadow’s will be released. Their can be difficult technical issues that can halt programming, legal issues that can take away the fan license, staffing problems, etc….



To me is looks like the journal entries would take time because they seem so polished and personable.  I wouldn’t mind a short, to the point, not taking the a director longer than 5 min to give a brief summary of what is left to be done and how many months they hope to be completed if things go well.  When something major happens that changes the status, another 5 min update.

Anyway, you have done an unbelievable job so far.  We the fans are thankful for what you have done.  And I wish you happy holidays.

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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2006, 11:27:05 AM »

I will be patient.  What I was asking for is probably something only the project director can provide.  Noting detailed.  Just a brief summary of what each team is doing and has left to do, VG's approval not included. 


That is precisely a full progress report you are asking about, regardless of the legal status and the hard work, that is information we choose to keep private due time and everyone's sake. As a fan everyone is going to keep asking for things, as a team everyone just wants to keep things together and just get them done.




To me is looks like the journal entries would take time because they seem so polished and personable.  I wouldn’t mind a short, to the point, not taking the a director longer than 5 min to give a brief summary of what is left to be done and how many months they hope to be completed if things go well.  When something major happens that changes the status, another 5 min update.

Sorry we don't do things like that, my main idea was to have updates monthly from whatever Director to provide as much information as they can, that is why I created the Journal to begin with. But in reality as I mentioned, I am just deeply glad they do they job and they give out as much time as they already do.


I am just being as honest as I can possibly be here in order to provide some peace of mind as well as much information as I am allowed to do so for the time being. I hope I have finally answered your questions and cleared out any comment pending :)




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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2006, 12:51:00 PM »
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Re: where are you guys at in terms of development
« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2006, 01:11:29 PM »
Unfortunately Rbadala POS/TSL Has never really been in the habit of giving out progress reports as anybody here can attest to. We didn’t even know about the demo’s release until the week before.

Suffice as to say the status is “When it’s done”. I did ask during the big Demo release chat this summer if they would at least announce when they would submit it to VU and they said yes. (though there was a lot going on and that could have been to someone else’s question.)

I know that’s not what you want to hear but that’s where things stand. They do know they are behind on the Journal and hopefully we will see something on that but most of their efforts right now are on game.
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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2006, 08:26:44 PM »
Yonkey, do you think the TSL part 1 will be done by christmas? I was wondering because ther hasn't been a journal entry in a month, nor have the forums been active lateley. Will you guys be able to get a new demo or small update anytime soon? Because I've been left in the dark about progress.  :)

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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2006, 08:31:27 PM »
I'm not Yonkey, but I'll venture to point you to the first thread in the fan feedback forum.  :)

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Re: getting TSL done before christmas
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Any update on release?
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2006, 06:38:49 PM »
I visit all the time yet I havent seen anything about progress for a long time.

So whats the update lol

Also, where on the website should i go when new information is available? Is the general forum the place to keep an eye on?

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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2006, 08:02:40 AM »
To get new information as it becomes available, your best shot is to sign upto the newsletter. Newsletters are usually released when big updates come etc.

You can also check out the journal. It has progress reports from various team members and gets new entries when people get the time to do a little update.
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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2006, 12:03:14 AM »
Jason is correct, also remember it's the holidays most of us are taking a time out.

And just to answer, yes, all directors are aware of absolutely everything that goes on outside the team and specially within our forum. And if they are not, I shall make sure they will :)



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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2006, 12:24:53 PM »
I visit all the time yet I havent seen anything about progress for a long time.

So whats the update lol

Also, where on the website should i go when new information is available? Is the general forum the place to keep an eye on?

I can give you an update.  Chapter one won't be release for another year atleast, and the other chapters, probably never :(

These are just my opinions though I hope I'm wrong.  I was disappointed with the demo (bugs kept me from playing more than a few minutes at a time), and I figure it's a long way for them to go to get the full game finished.

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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2006, 12:32:45 PM »
These are just my opinions though I hope I'm wrong.  I was disappointed with the demo (bugs kept me from playing more than a few minutes at a time), and I figure it's a long way for them to go to get the full game finished.
Did you try installing the patch?
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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #57 on: December 26, 2006, 07:26:21 AM »
These are just my opinions though I hope I'm wrong.  I was disappointed with the demo (bugs kept me from playing more than a few minutes at a time), and I figure it's a long way for them to go to get the full game finished.
Did you try installing the patch?

Patch didn't help any.  Thanks.

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Re: Any update on release?
« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2006, 04:36:31 AM »
These are just my opinions though I hope I'm wrong.  I was disappointed with the demo (bugs kept me from playing more than a few minutes at a time), and I figure it's a long way for them to go to get the full game finished.
Did you try installing the patch?

Patch didn't help any.  Thanks.

You know, you could ask questions and stuff in the Demo section of the forum and the team would help try to figure out what's going on...AND figure out what still needs work. One, to help you be able to play the game...and two, to fix the game so others can play it even better.
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« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2007, 01:04:52 PM »
I just played the demo, and it was great. It brought back sooo many great memories. Everything that I saw that i thought should be fixed, was already mentioned. I cant wait till the actual game comes out. Keep up the good work! :)
 

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