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Started by Say, January 23, 2006, 10:12:37 PM

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racx_00

Welcome to the forum! Glad that you liked the demo and I hope you decide to stick around! :D
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dew7

Well, any idea if the demo will be expanded with the next update to the demo?  In addition, when will the next update to the demo be released?  Thanks for the replies.
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TribeHasSpoken

I'm reasonably certain there aren't going to be more updates to the demo and that the next playable release will be the game itself.
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dew7

Thanks!  Do you have any idea of a release date for the actual game yet?
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J-Rod

Are you guys worried at all about the VU approval process?

racx_00

I can't really answer that question for you, but I'll try and get someone in here who can. :D
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Yonkey

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That's actually a pretty tough question to answer.  We're not sure what kinds of modifications VU would ask us to make to the game, or if they'd even ask us to modify anything at all.  Their evaluation may be a simple check to ensure the reliability & security of the game (i.e. ensure it doesn't crash or contain any viruses/spyware), or it may be elaborate.

So, until we receive specific feedback from VU about the game and examine their impact, there's no use in worrying over it right now.


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Say

More than a technical evaluation (because so far VU is not involved in production and will not be), it is just for them to be able to supervise final product just in case we decided to make Graham a Pimp wannabe with a leather hat or show Rosella with a huge cleavage  smoking in the middle of the street and all that (and before people start quoting me and freaking out for nothing, this is just a joke made example. I'm pretty sure you get the point by now). In the end it is fairly reasonable due to we are only working with what belongs to them by law.



Say Mistage
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rbadala

I am probably in a minority, but from what I have seen over the last couple of years.  I would venture to what I believe to be a reasonable guess is that staffing and technical problems are a far greater threat to this game ever being produced than VU.

Has anything been accomplished in the last half a year?  We don't know that it hasn't, but we "the KQ fans" don't know that it has either.

Petra Rocks

 I tend to agree with the first part. Since nobody is getting paid and the budget is 0 getting people to work on the project is probably a bigger potential problem than VU, since now that they have granted approval I doubt they will really get in the way. :)

But I doubt that nobody is working on it. They came out with a demo, and anyway why bother lying? Nor can you really expect every programming and development step to be made public.  It is probably coming out slower than first hoped. That's common enough even in paid companies, like the latest version of windows.  Still that does not mean nothing is happening at all. ;)

Say

VU has never been a threat per se, it is the legal owner of the IP. And yes, believe it or not staff is what makes the technical side of this so they do relate big time and it is not a "threat" it is the core of what this whole project is about. But let's be honest, what can you demand out of a group of people that works for free for over 40 hours a week? They work at their pace and within the reals of their own possibility. Again, it is not a threat, it is pretty much what it is made of. Every single license, every single hosting/domain, legal affairs, etc. It has been paid by those same folks, sadly we cannot afford working on this 24/7 and/or afford better things to work with than just our home PC's but also equipment that will help us produce something in the lines of Final Fantasy or whatnot. We can only dream about that.

Some people tend to understand different I guess because they seem to forget what kind of people is working on this. We are all professionals who do this for a living (production, animation, marketing, programming, etc) so we do try to somehow shape it up the best we can and organize it as much as possible. But sadly we cannot afford more than what we do, time and money speaking. Therefore delays and perhaps not the best of quality, long ass legal dead times, staff that comes and goes and you can pretty much name it.

I understand you have got no idea what is behind the courtains, and to be honest at first it was a wish brought from the Project Leaders, now it is just a reasonable standard to keep things in order (legally and production wise). What has been accomplished during the last year has been quite more than what we thought it would eventually be (VU situation and all) and yet not enough (not being able to just launch the game as it is right now). I know everyone wants a full progress report every now and then, and demand to know progress status and percentages and whatever else. Then it would be people complaining about it and asking for more, it always is and it always has been through the years. Needless to say, I will have the Directors post as much as they feel like it when the time comes, for now I refuse to get ahead of myself here just to prove a point. The demo was shorted out so we wouldn't give out much before the release of the game but that demo wasn't created out of thin air as some would like to believe, it was actually launched so fans could get a silly glance of what was going on behind this website but apparently, yet again, just wasn't a date to point down in a calendar.

I do apologize for the time being, but there isn't pretty much we can do without just releasing the game for everyone to understand and just finally have what they crave for.

I will keep you posted.




Say Mistage
Phoenix Online Studios

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Dopey

Agreed. And in your opinion, had the announcement of this game been pushed back and all the website/screen shots/etc not been needed (although as nice as they are) how much closer would the team be to completion? Unfortunately all of those things take time away from production. Although realistically I'm sure the team is living it up everytime the game is mentioned on other news outlets & websites.   :D

Yonkey

The release of promotional material is done by the PR department, which is separate from the other departments.  So, development would not complete any sooner without the material.  However, the promotional material also helps the team stay motivated during production, so if anything, it brings the game closer to completion. :)
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Dopey

Good point. Either way, I wish you guys all the luck, and I'll continue to watch the site

J-Rod

Well I've never really had any doubt that the team would get it done. And I didn't really fear VU would completely stop the game (anymore at least). I've just noticed that is often mentioned that they would have the final say in when it was released because of their approval process, but I never really saw it explained. So I was just curious of the team's personal thoughts on the matter, and if it was something that they were worried about at all other than what comes from not knowing exactly what it consist of.

I feel better now knowing that they aren't seriously worried about it. And I really feel good that if they did want changes it would most likely be with the technical aspects rather than something that was part of the teams creative vision.

So thanks for your thoughts and all your hard work. I know it's been quite a journey so far to make this happen, and that's just from the outside looking in. I can only imagine to what it has really been like. And yet it is still not over, so I wish you guys the best of luck, and again thank you for what you're doing.

TribeHasSpoken

It's a double-edged sword. The biggest cost of not publicizing the project early would have been that we'd have missed out on attracting a lot of great talent to the team, and then we'd be nowhere near as far into development as we are now. On top of that, this game is an attempt to make a wish come true, our wish to have that old Sierra magic one more time like it was brand new. That's my wish, that's the wish of the whole team, and because it's the dream of a whole community we had to share that. Frankly, the memories of these forums and interacting with fellow fans are going to be the ones that stick with us.

I understand your anxiety, but anything I could really say to ease that anxiety right now would reveal too much and would lead to Say writing me a stern letter about my error....in my own blood.
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Prowlipan

Curiosity killed an animal with nine lives. Imagine how quickly the rest of you will die.

noaheugene20

I'm starting to notice that most of the forum is inactive do to the lack of updates to this site, if they don't start updating even by a little bit soon..... I don't even want to think what could happen. Most people are totally negelecting this site and i personally don't blame them there hasn't been a single update in like how long has it been now.... oh at least 5 months.  Sorry about complaining tho even i myself is negelecting to watch this site. So my point is .... im fallllllinng a a a [getting tired] oh asleep. :Snore:  :zzz:

duddeyakc

when is the game going to be released and what is taking so long?