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The Silver Lining - Cease and Desist

Started by Yonkey, February 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM

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tessspoon

Quote from: crayauchtin on March 29, 2010, 02:30:34 AM
I recommend sending it yourself and sending Waltz one of the form letters as well.
That's what I did :yes:

Rider Jetfire

I plan on writing my own letter, as well as sending one of the form letters as well.  So just so I'm clear, do we send them to Waltz through e-mail, or send them directly to Activision?
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waltzdancing

Through the email. You scan in your form letter with your signiture or you can give me permission and I will sign your name on that petition and only that petition. You can also snail mail it if you want.

liggy002

Is Activision willing to sell their license to another gaming company?  If so, the company that bought would have to be convinced that The Silver Lining is a profitable venture- either that or they could just do it out of the goodness of their heart which is unlikely since almost everything revolves around profit nowadays.

RottenTomato

Sad day for me to see this news.

I can still remember coming back to my hometown to visit my family and hear my sister "claim" somebody was making a Kings Quest IX. I pretty much got angry because I thought it was all lies since my whole family loved the Kings Quest series. And me, as the computer gamer, would have been the first to know if something such as this was being created.

Sure enough my sister led me to this site and I was absolutely shocked. I registered about 3 years ago, checking on the progress every few months. I'm happy to say, if anything, I atleast got to play the demo. And wow, what memories came back to me. It was like I was a kid again exploring that new world, meeting interesting characters, and cautioning to the twinkling eye.

I would like to thanks those who tried to make this possible. It meant so much more seeing other fans and a small demo than simply letting the series die.

Yours truely,

RottenTomato

blahmoomoo

Quote from: liggy002 on March 29, 2010, 06:09:25 PM
Is Activision willing to sell their license to another gaming company?  If so, the company that bought would have to be convinced that The Silver Lining is a profitable venture- either that or they could just do it out of the goodness of their heart which is unlikely since almost everything revolves around profit nowadays.

I just want to clarify the difference between a license and IP.  IP [Intellectual Property], in the gaming world, is the ownership of a franchise and everything related to it.  A license is given to allow another entity to use their IP under certain terms, including the ability to terminate, the sharing of profits, and the ownership of the final product.  Activision does not have "a licence," but rather has the right to license their IPs to other people.

Of course, with a license comes terms, which both parties would have to be willing to agree to.  So in that way, yes, Activision would have to consider what they could get out of selling a commercial license to POS (if it comes down to that).

(Similarly, when you buy software, you don't really own it.  Rather, you purchased a license that allows you to use the software under certain conditions, including the possibility of revocation at any time.  Read the EULA on any paid for software and you'll see.)

blahmoomoo

[After three posts on this thread, I finally decided to register so I won't have to double post to make corrections to my posts]

When I said "under certain terms, including..." I meant those as examples of terms under a license agreement, not that a license agreement requires those terms.

atec123

Quote from: RottenTomato on March 29, 2010, 06:19:36 PM
Sad day for me to see this news.

I can still remember coming back to my hometown to visit my family and hear my sister "claim" somebody was making a Kings Quest IX. I pretty much got angry because I thought it was all lies since my whole family loved the Kings Quest series. And me, as the computer gamer, would have been the first to know if something such as this was being created.

Sure enough my sister led me to this site and I was absolutely shocked. I registered about 3 years ago, checking on the progress every few months. I'm happy to say, if anything, I atleast got to play the demo. And wow, what memories came back to me. It was like I was a kid again exploring that new world, meeting interesting characters, and cautioning to the twinkling eye.

I would like to thanks those who tried to make this possible. It meant so much more seeing other fans and a small demo than simply letting the series die.

Yours truely,

RottenTomato
The team hasn't given up yet, and neither have we.
http://savetsl.co.cc
TSL Will see the light of day.  This happened in 2005, and we made it.  (although I was not aware of TSL at the time, I am just speaking for the fans)
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We are the Defenders of Jazz Ballet
People say, when they see us:
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Fearless heroes of kick and spin

Rider Jetfire

#628
Quote from: waltzdancing on March 29, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
Through the email. You scan in your form letter with your signiture or you can give me permission and I will sign your name on that petition and only that petition. You can also snail mail it if you want.
All righty, you'll be getting an e-mail from me soon!

EDIT:  I also wanted to add that as an editor (the video kind) I would love to offer my services to TSL in any way shape or form they need them.  I've been paid for my work in the past but I would totally offer to edit anything you all would like free of charge.  I know you all more than likely all ready have one, I just wanted to make sure is all.
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ShinyKnight

#629
Well... I haven't posted here in years and years, but I just wanted to extend my condolences to the entire team and fanbase for having this project basically wrested out of their hands, kicking and screaming.

I hope something changes, a miracle happens to convince Bobby Kotick to pull his head out of his ass, really anything to allow development to continue in one form or another.

Keep fighting the good fight for independent studios everywhere, guys.

The press this is getting is sort of surreal, actually.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for more. :)
He who laughs last, didn't get the joke! :suffer:

crayauchtin

Heyyyyy!!!!! I remember you! :P

Soooo, listen, if you haven't already you should sign all the petitions and such that the Save TSL Movement is putting together: http://savetsl.co.cc/?cat=1
"If your translation is correct, that was 'May a sleepy hippopotamus lie down on your house keys,' but you're not sure. Unfortunately, your fluency in griffin-speak is too low."

We're roleplaying in the King's Quest world: come join in the fun!

koko_99_2001

Hey Michael! It's great to see you! Hope things are going well!
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Catherine DaCosta

BloodShed

So this thread is still going?  ::)  It reminds me of the hilarious times I had reading the fan posts on the 3DRealms forums.  ...you know, the people that refused to admit that DNF was vaporware.  Good times.

Seriously though, I'm a huge KQ fan and I was looking forward to TSL for years.  But frankly, I just don't care to help when the team isn't even interested in helping themselves.  You guys still can't even repost your website and defend your basic rights.  Instead, you expect Activision to care when your fans do the only thing you approve of... sign pointless petitions and mail tens of letters.  They wouldn't even spend minimum wage on someone to throw your letters away; they'll let the interns do it.  At least you gave Activision a good 10-second chuckle when they saw just how quickly you fall for nonsense scare tactics.

To the 30 or so visitors still clinging to a shred of hope that Activision will waste even 2 minutes to reconsider... I hope, for everyone's sake, that I'm wrong.  But unfortunately, I'm not.  A year from now, this site will be empty or completely gone and Activision will have forgotten what TSL even was (if they haven't already).

Good luck anyway.

Rider Jetfire

Well hey, some of us like looking on the bright side of life and continue to hope no matter what.
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waltzdancing

Bloodshed, you couldn't be more wrong. The TSL team is working on a proposal to buy something, the messages are a bit mixed right now, but they are trying to get Activision to talk to them. I have been calling Activision since yesterday for someone to follow up on the petitions and to try and get some answers. I know the operator I have been talking too is getting annoyed with me but I will continue to call.


This game will come out even if it needs to be reworked so POS will have their own IP. With a C&D letter, over their heads they are limited with what they can do. As I have said many times on this forum, we will continue to fight and we will continue to be patient and supprotive of the team as we (the fans) are not restricted. The POS Team will continue to give us updates.

Tage7

I'm sure they appreciate your supportive non-self-gratifying comments, Bloodshed. ::) Thanks for using 5 minutes of your life typing out a comment hundreds of other people have already used 5 minutes of their lives typing out. Even though your words may be spiteful, your willingness to give up that much of your life speaks contrarily. :)

atec123

I have nothing really to add.  But I just have to ask....

WHY be like that?  WHY not help us win the fight against activision.

The way I See it, you can help, taking up hardly any of your time, and that could potentially make all the difference.  But you doubting that the game will be released,  well that just increases the chances of it not being released.
Official maintainer of TSL in linux via Wine. TSL AppDB page
Maintainer of TSL in OSX via Wine
TSL IRC Chatroom Maintainer
We are the Defenders of Jazz Ballet
People say, when they see us:
Hey, folks! It's the Saviours of Jazz Ballet
Fearless heroes of kick and spin

waltzdancing

If you refuse to help and want to be negative that is your business, We went through this type of attitude a few days ago and I will not do it again. However I will say this, I support the TSL team and will do everything in my power to have TSL come into the light, even if that means I am sending letters and calling Actilvision everyday for years. I hate to get this way and my brothers are always telling me that I nag too much but if anyone wants to destroy the team's moral, they will need to get through me!

Rider Jetfire

Indeed, the time you spent typing out that message could have been spent writing a letter to Activision.

And I wholeheartedly am behind waltz.
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Yonkey

I have now updated the first post of this thread with a new interview from IncGamers.  Thanks again, Tim! :)
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