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"Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« on: July 11, 2010, 12:10:09 AM »
Little qualm that I had ever since the release of the demo was the pronunciation of "Graham".  With exception to perhaps a couple of characters I can think of in the official games, everyone seemed to pronounce his name as "Gray-um".  Now he's known to all as "Gram" (despite other characters saying otherwise in previous games).

Could just be me - over here, I know of nobody who pronounces Graham as "Gram", and it's taking a little getting used to.  But it just seems a weird continuity issue when characters don't pronounce the names of others in the way that they did before.
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2010, 12:11:34 AM »
Titania was the only one that bothered me. It was definitely said in KQ7 that her name was pronounced Tie-TAIN-ia, but...eh.

I think at the beginning of KQV, Graham actually pronounces his own name "gram" when he's telling Cedric what to call him.
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 12:16:31 AM »
Yes, that's who I was thinking of who pronounced it "Gram" was the king himself, but Cedric pronounced it "Gray-um" straight afterwards!  On top of which, Alexander pronounces it as "Gray-um" in KQ6. 

I did notice that the narrator had a very strange pronunciation of "Valanice" as well (where the a's sounded more like o's), but the most prominent was definitely Titania.

I'd say just for a continuity thing for characters to pronounce names the same way they did in the original talky games, personally speaking.  It doesn't stop me loving the game any less; it's just a nit odd when characters who have pronounced a name one way in a previous game start pronouncing it differently.
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 06:28:34 AM »
I pronounce it Gram :) Hah, and I'm getting deja vu of this topic on the boards a looong time ago, too!

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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 06:45:22 AM »


How are these graham crackers pronounced?
Gram.

I figured they were right about Graham's name.

Titania's on the other hand... maybe the speaker just had an accent. I don't remember who said her name, but it threw me off... It was either Oberon or Graham... Hmmmm... I'm going to go back to that part. This is going to bother me.

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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 06:49:10 AM »


How are these graham crackers pronounced?

Gray-um.  Again, over in my country, there's no such thing as "gram" for a name.  A "gram" is a measurement of weight.  But Graham Crackers here are "gray-um" crackers.

Although I guess to be pedantic, we could always just ditch both pronunciations and pronounce it "gra-ham".  After all, why is the ham in his name so sorely neglected?

But yeah, totally bringing the deja vu back, Katie!
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 06:52:10 AM »


How are these graham crackers pronounced?

Gray-um.  Again, over in my country, there's no such thing as "gram" for a name.  A "gram" is a measurement of weight.  But Graham Crackers here are "gray-um" crackers.

Although I guess to be pedantic, we could always just ditch both pronunciations and pronounce it "gra-ham".  After all, why is the ham in his name so sorely neglected?

But yeah, totally bringing the deja vu back, Katie!

I SUPPORT THE 'HAM'...Gray-ham, Gray-um

Gram sounds like Gran and as far as I can tell he's not an old woman...yet (there could be room for this within the story and episodes)

Ah well it's a cultural thing ;) 'Tis beyond my Speech'  :suffer:
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 06:53:14 AM »
Very interesting! I didn't know they were pronounced differently! I'm so uncultured...  :-X

Maybe that's the reason they pronounce Graham's name differently, just different voice-over actors from different backgrounds?

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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 07:03:50 AM »
I don't think I would fancy consuming grey ham though; tis beyond its expiry date at that point!  But he will henceforth be a man created from grey lunch meats.  Namely ham.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 07:04:56 AM »
Don't eat yellow snow or gray ham...Gotcha!

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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 07:06:49 AM »
Don't eat yellow snow or gray ham...Gotcha!

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 07:08:27 AM »
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2010, 07:38:22 AM »
we could just refer to him as mr G from now on, I don't think people have mis-pronunciation issues with that. ofcourse you have to edit episode 1 to give him a mohawk  :-\
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 07:47:24 AM »
This reminds me...In the demo for TSL released a few years ago, the narrator referred to "Valanice" as "Valiance". That really bothered me.

There was one more obvious name mispronunciation, but I can't remember it now...

I was happy to see they fixed it for yesterday's release.

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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2010, 07:48:36 AM »
'Tis beyond my Speech'  :suffer:
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2010, 07:52:24 AM »
'Tis beyond my Speech'  :suffer:
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2010, 01:46:44 PM »
I pronounce it Gram :) Hah, and I'm getting deja vu of this topic on the boards a looong time ago, too!
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I wasn't gonna say anything but since someone else brought it up, I remember saying a looonnnng time ago that Graham is a two syllable name and we had this big long discussion about it. :P
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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2010, 09:08:38 PM »
I was actually more bothered with the pronunciation of the name 'Azure'. The second syllable does not begin with a straight 'z' sound. It should sound more like the the second syllable of 'trea-sure' or mea-sure'.

Am I the only one that noticed this? I'm surprised that no one has pointed it out on this topic.

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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2010, 09:24:39 PM »
I'm a Gram man myself.


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Re: "Gram", and the pronunciation of character names
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2010, 09:41:41 PM »
I've always pronounced it the second way you wrote it out.
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