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Question about the Intro

Started by B'rrr, July 11, 2010, 06:19:54 PM

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Fierce Deity

Quote from: KatieHal on July 23, 2010, 04:41:22 PM
Not very successfully, I have to say. I mean, was anyone playing the game really fooled by that?

Seriously, at least run around in an Assassin's Creed outfit if you're trying to be sneaky (a la a popular theory among the forums).
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Baggins

Well as I understand it, originally they were going to have interactive sequences with Valanice, but they had to be cut due to budget and space.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Fierce Deity

So Edgar was zapped out of the volcano control room, and then the next thing we know, he's riding on Tsepish's horse with Valanice. Was I missing something, or did Edgar just instinctively know where Valanice was?   
Freudian Slip - "When you say one thing, but mean your mother."

Baggins

#43
Ya, fierce, I think there is something missing its a bit disjointed. That whole side of the storyline isn't even explained. How did get Necromancer, how did he know where Valanice was, etc etc...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

tessspoon

Never got that either. Or why Edgar just kind of turns around looking defeated during the fight just to get zapped.

waltzdancing

Quote from: tessspoon on July 23, 2010, 04:57:18 PM
Never got that either. Or why Edgar just kind of turns around looking defeated during the fight just to get zapped.

I never got that either but it did, however, teach me an important lesson. I never turn my back on anyone who attacks you. You never know what stunt they might pull to trick you.

Hituro

Valanice is really Shadrack!  DUN DUN DUUUN!!!!  Oh poor Graham, you're done for now!  :(

sahara

#47
Quote from: Tolin on July 12, 2010, 11:36:23 AM
Hehehe...

The intro is a stunning piece of work...
But... why didn't Valanice at least check on Alexander after he fell, at least for a pulse?
That's the only thing that keeps striking me as a little odd.

Me... I think it's all a side effect of the spell that turned Alex into a fly.
...Okay... not really.

Yes, I thought the same thing about Valanice not checking on Alexander.  And why wouldn't she start screaming as she's running back to Graham?  Those aren't major problems, though.  Yes, I thought the intro was amazing... so much better without the character dialogue.  Whoever was in charge of the cinematography and dramatic effects really knew what they were doing.  Sadly, the dramatic tension went away when we heard the first of the character dialogue in that bedroom scene.  When that sense of real drama went away it was like air being let out of a balloon.  I believe the weak link in the game is the narration and character dialogue writing... improve those things and you'll have a winner.  (and include lots more puzzles, too!)

Baggins

At least one reviewer noted, that they were a bit creeped out by Alexander and Rosella sharing the same bed, and holding hands :p...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

B'rrr

I found that disturbing aswell!
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Haids1987

#50
Dude, me too! 

But then I started thinking about how when twin babies are preemies sometimes they're comforted by sharing an incubator, and it helps them heal.  Perhaps that was Cesar's thought process here...?
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wilco64256

They are twins, they're both totally comatose, and both under the same spell.  Why keep them in separate rooms?
Weldon Hathaway

Haids1987

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Baggins

#53
Well, at least in real life, adult twins don't generally sleep in the same bedroom (not unless their conjoined) ;), and if they do they usually are in separate beds.

In western culture it is rather taboo to have adult siblings in the same bed in general.

So I can sorta see where some people are creeped out about it.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

wilco64256

It's not like they climbed into bed together to take a quick nap.  What they're experiencing barely even qualifies as "sleeping."  It's a matter of convenience as much as anything else - they need to be watched over and taken care of, and the guards are already spread pretty thin.
Weldon Hathaway

KatieHal

What Weldon said. I can see why people might go "bwa?" when they see it because it's unconventional to us, but seriously, there's no reason to be creeped out by it.

Sahara--I'd normally say nothing, but since I was one of the writers, I feel compelled to defend my work (on the internet at that--truly, I'm a glutton for punishment :P). We actually quite a lot of consideration into the work and it was not thrown together or whatever. If the style and direction isn't to your liking, well, nothing I can do about that.

As for the tension disappearing when they started talking--well, again, I don't know what to tell you. Obviously, the characters had to start talking eventually. That their opening dialogue would be about what happened was also a given.

But, re: Valanice not yelling up to Graham when she came back, it was rather clearly shown she was out of breath from running there to begin with. She's not exactly the hearty adventuring type her husband is. :)

Anyways--I don't really want to get into a point by point debate. Just wanted to say my piece in defense of my work and explain a few things.

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Haids1987

Quote from: wilco64256 on July 24, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
It's not like they climbed into bed together to take a quick nap.
LOL! My eyes are watering, I'm laughing so hard!
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Lambonius

In the same room, even same bed for convenience sake---yeah I suppose I can see that.  But to arrange them holding hands?  Why would anybody in that situation even think to do that?  Why not just go the extra step and put Alexander's hand on Rosella's crotch?  

;)  *evil laugh

Haids1987

#58
Quote from: Lambonius on July 24, 2010, 02:51:37 PM
In the same room, even same bed for convenience sake---yeah I suppose I can see that.  But holding hands?  Why not just go the extra step and put Alexander's hand on Rosella's crotch? 
Oh my gosh, what are you guys doing to me? :D LOL, I'm laughing so hard my family is giving me creepy looks...

EDIT: Can someone post a picture of said hand-holding?  My sister wants to see. ;P
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Lambonius

Quote from: Haids1987 on July 24, 2010, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on July 24, 2010, 02:51:37 PM
In the same room, even same bed for convenience sake---yeah I suppose I can see that.  But holding hands?  Why not just go the extra step and put Alexander's hand on Rosella's crotch? 
Oh my gosh, what are you guys doing to me? :D LOL, I'm laughing so hard my family is giving me creepy looks...

EDIT: Can someone post a picture of said hand-holding?  My sister wants to see. ;P

Just watch the Let's Play video on youtube.  It'll be somewhere in the first or second part.