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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2011, 02:29:51 PM »
Well, the place the Tower was in was definitely not the Green Isles. Or Kolyma/the magic island, granted, but definitely not the Green Isles! :)

True, but that was in a dream.  Plus, at the end of episode 3

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so I assume that it was transported to the magic island off the coast of Kolyma where Graham discovers it.

We will get to see an entirely new land before the game is done.

Great!  Will we also get to see another one of the old lands in 3-D?  That was my main reason for playing this game.  As I recall, the original plan was to recreate all of the old lands in 3-D, but that would have taken too long, so about 40% of the story was eliminated to allow the game to be finished.

Heh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)

That would be the Oedipean cycle; I was referring to the Orestean cycle.  No, I wouldn't want to see that in the game, either.  Although Aristotle considered Oedipus the king his favorite play, it certainly isn't mine!

So you haven't commented on my guess as to how the game will end.  Was I close?
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2011, 03:29:02 PM »
Great!  Will we also get to see another one of the old lands in 3-D?  That was my main reason for playing this game.  As I recall, the original plan was to recreate all of the old lands in 3-D, but that would have taken too long, so about 40% of the story was eliminated to allow the game to be finished.

Hmm...sort of. :)

So you haven't commented on my guess as to how the game will end.  Was I close?
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #102 on: April 17, 2011, 05:01:07 PM »
Hmm...sort of. :)

"Sort of" as in a small part of another land that we can walk around in, interact, and pick up things, or "sort of" as in a cutscene.  If we can walk around a small part of Daventry, Tamir, etc. in 3-D, interact, and pick up things, then I'll be happy.  Cut scenes don't count.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2011, 09:52:39 PM »
Heh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)
Oh barf...please Katie, if you have any sympathy at all, never bring Oedipus up again. ;)
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #104 on: April 18, 2011, 12:28:05 AM »
I can't say anything based on the sneak preview of episode 4 since the computer I played the game on was not connected to the internet  :wall: and now I am like 300+ miles from said computer (my computer is awesome and bits and pieces of everyone are missing... same with rooms and landscapes it's pretty awesome)

But I'm really hoping...
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"Hi Rosella. The bad guys captured me as a kid and I couldn't figure out what was going on until you saved me a few years back. After all your efforts, I couldn't even stay out of trouble for one day and the bad guys got me all over again. My mind is easily warped, so I had no self-control when I turned you into an ugly troll. Then I almost blew up the world with this volcano..."

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #105 on: April 18, 2011, 06:58:22 AM »
It's more than cutscenes. :) More than that, you'll have to wait to find out!  :suffer:

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2011, 07:31:02 PM »
Heh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)
Oh barf...please Katie, if you have any sympathy at all, never bring Oedipus up again. ;)

:X Especially in the KQ universe.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2011, 09:18:05 PM »
I solemnly swear the remaining plot of TSL will not turn Oedipal!

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2011, 09:31:48 PM »
I solemnly swear the remaining plot of TSL will not turn Oedipal!
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #109 on: April 23, 2011, 08:37:47 AM »
I was looking through the Royal Archives and encountered the following quote:

Quote from: Cesar
During Part 1: Shadows, we visit the Land of the Green Isles, and the enigmatic Dreamworld.

During Part 2, [The Two That Are One] we visit the lands of time, Astratos, The magical Endless Forest and Daventry Castle (Which we'll be able to explore completely)

During Part 3, Eternities, We visit Dreoria, the Land of Dragons, and the Maze of Infinity.

and Kolyma

although we are always coming back and forth to different lands.

So apparently my previous statement that the original plan was to visit all the lands of the previous games was incorrect.  Besides the Green Isles, the only other previous lands that we were going to revisit were Daventry Castle (in the middle part) and Kolyma (in the last part); all the other lands were to be new.  And we would not even be visiting the entire realm of Daventry, but only the castle.

It would be nice to be able to see the troll bridge, the goat pen, and the ancient well in 3-D, but it appears that we'll never get to do that, unless TellTale games recreates Daventry in 3-D.  I was looking forward to walking around Daventry in 3-D in KQ-8, but that Daventry bore no resemblance to the original.  Perhaps we'll still be able to explore Daventry Castle, or at least a small part of it, in this game.

Since the wallpaper background to these forums pictures some sort of forest, I assume that we'll be able to visit the magical Endless Forest in episode 4.

That leaves us with Kolyma for episode 5 (and perhaps one or two other new places).  Since KatieHal answered "Sort of" to my question, perhaps we'll be able to visit a part of Kolyma in a dream.  That would be okay so long as we can walk around there at leisure and not have to rush through an arcade sequence.  Since most of Kolyma is simply generic forest, there would be no point in recreating it.  Revisiting grandma's house would be pointless.  I doubt that there would be any reason to return to the chapel.  We might perhaps return to the antique shop if Pandora's box has been placed there.  Perhaps there would be some reason to return to Dracula's castle.  But, most likely, if we return to Kolyma in a dream, it will be to visit the house where Valanice grew up.

Then there is the possibility that grandma's house is the house where Valanice grew up.  But if Valanice believes that she grew up with her parents, and her mother is Graham's grandmother, then that would make Valanice Graham's mother, or, more likely, his aunt.  If this is her dark secret, then learning that Mananan is her real father would release her from this.  KatieHal did promise us that the game would not go Oedipal, and, although this would be reverse-Oedipal, I don't think that the game will go this way.  Rather, I think the game will most likely end with a visit to Valanice's childhood home which is distinct from grandma's house, perhaps in a dream, to resolve any conflicts left over from her childhood.

EDIT:  I just realized that the grandma in KQ2 was Little Red Riding Hood's grandma, not Graham's grandma.  So please disregard what I wrote about Valanice being Graham's mother.

One final prediction before episode 4 comes out:  Episode 4 will be entitled "‘Tis In My Memory Locked. And You Yourself Shall Hold The Key Of It."  My prediction is that

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otherwise, that entire sequence will have been useless.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #110 on: October 19, 2011, 05:22:33 PM »
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OK I was just being random – I don’t have any idea how the story will end, but it would be sweet if Graham and Valanice could get their stolen happy youth back.

Another thing that would be interesting was if Shadrack/the cloaked guy was in fact Crispinophur. I’m not saying this because Crispin wears a black cloak, but because in KQ5 the guy (disguised as Santa) passively sent us to Mordack’s castle (in hope) that we would be imprisoned with our family, castle and our 3 magic items (yes, maybe he was teaming with Mordak all the time, trying to trap Graham)… or maybe he was testing Graham to see how far he could get (sending a owl spy with him)… or just to see if Mordak could beat us (if not, we automatically would get rid of him).

Anyway, I must tell you what a great game TSL is. I think I like this better than the originals.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #111 on: October 19, 2011, 06:40:14 PM »
Some interesting theories, there, newsblade. And thank you, and welcome to the forums!

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2011, 05:52:40 PM »
This is just an idea to consider for another game, making a space quest 7 :(
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2011, 06:04:00 PM »
If we do ever make another Sierra franchise game we'll be doing it as a commercial effort, so definitely don't expect to see us do any more free fan sequel type stuff.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2011, 06:45:02 PM »
a SQ7 project would be fun to make together with Murphy or Mandel. Give us some time. We'll eventually and hopefully get there!


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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #115 on: November 04, 2011, 07:51:37 AM »
a SQ7 project would be fun to make together with Murphy or Mandel. Give us some time. We'll eventually and hopefully get there!
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #116 on: November 04, 2011, 09:28:04 AM »
Yeah we would most definitely love to work on Sierra stuff more in the future, that would be really great.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #117 on: November 04, 2011, 11:39:55 PM »
According to what the Wizard says to Valanice, it seems to me that time is reversing to help everyone remember their personal pasts.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #118 on: November 05, 2011, 06:07:11 PM »
Since Cez stated that Joaquin Phoenix was an inspiration for Alexander, I assume that Alex will announce his intention to step down from the throne in order to pursue a rapping career, grow a beard, do incoherent interviews and then later insist that it was all a hoax.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #119 on: November 07, 2011, 06:28:43 PM »
Hmm...

I'm interested in what
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said during the last bit of the game...

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