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Started by KatieHal, September 18, 2010, 09:07:28 PM

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Haids1987

 :rofl:

Well, get used to it, 'cause we're gonna see a lot of it in Episode 3!
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dark-daventry

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Quote from: Haids1987 on February 10, 2011, 11:49:57 PM
:rofl:

Well, get used to it, 'cause we're gonna see a lot of it in Episode 3!

Actually, no you're not. Per doon's suggestion to the team, we have now removed hair from every character in the game, including Valanice. Unfortunately, the trailers and screenshots do not currently reflect this change, but rest assured the final product will be hair free.

Also, hair makes a great healing product, wouldn't you say?

Quote from: kindofdoon on February 10, 2011, 11:45:47 PM
Eh, I dislike hair, and the idea of it growing so fast is just horrible. Imo, it's just a useless and primitive vestige that humans would be better without. :X

I'm afraid I have to disagree. If this guy had hair in the bald spot, he wouldn't be nearly as ugly or weird looking.

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Damar

You're both right.  Hair is more trouble than its worth.  Life would be easier without it.  Unfortunately, some of us would make very ugly bald men.  I count myself in that category, though for the record, I'm not as bad as that guy up there.  No one could possibly be as bad as that guy...

As for the trailer, I'm very interested to see what Valanice's secret is.  My only guess is that somehow she was involved with this evil.  Or her family was.  It turned bad, so she got locked in the tower.  Interestingly enough, Hagatha wasn't the one locking her in the tower.  It was some guy (or woman) with gray hair.  Almost looks like a judge's wig, actually.  Oh, and a troll.  It also looks like there was a troll there.  But no Hagatha.  So there's definitely more to the story here.

Also, that green woman who I've been convinced is Hagatha is floating in the trailer!  That seems weird.  Now I'm wondering if it actually is Hagatha, because Hagatha never really levitated before.  Of course, Hagatha's never really been more than maybe six colors before either, so who knows.  My first guess is that it's Hagatha.  My second guess is that it's a new character, possibly something like a banshee, and it's blocking Graham's way to somewhere important.  Maybe that ginormous tree that's also in the trailer.

dark-daventry

Quote from: Damar on February 13, 2011, 09:29:49 AM
You're both right.  Hair is more trouble than its worth.  Life would be easier without it.  Unfortunately, some of us would make very ugly bald men.  I count myself in that category, though for the record, I'm not as bad as that guy up there.  No one could possibly be as bad as that guy...

As for the trailer, I'm very interested to see what Valanice's secret is.  My only guess is that somehow she was involved with this evil.  Or her family was.  It turned bad, so she got locked in the tower.  Interestingly enough, Hagatha wasn't the one locking her in the tower.  It was some guy (or woman) with gray hair.  Almost looks like a judge's wig, actually.  Oh, and a troll.  It also looks like there was a troll there.  But no Hagatha.  So there's definitely more to the story here.

Also, that green woman who I've been convinced is Hagatha is floating in the trailer!  That seems weird.  Now I'm wondering if it actually is Hagatha, because Hagatha never really levitated before.  Of course, Hagatha's never really been more than maybe six colors before either, so who knows.  My first guess is that it's Hagatha.  My second guess is that it's a new character, possibly something like a banshee, and it's blocking Graham's way to somewhere important.  Maybe that ginormous tree that's also in the trailer.

Nice speculation! I always love seeing what the community has to say about the upcoming episodes! You'll find out on Thursday who that woman is and what her connection to the story is. Overall, episode 3 is my favorite of the five episodes so far. I'm loving it. It really starts to tie together some of the loose ends of the series, but also raises new questions that will leave you salivating for more. Believe me, this episode is by far the best one we've ever produced so far. I think the delay was ultimately a good idea; we're still in the process of fixing some major issues, and believe me, if we had released this on the original date, it would have met with criticism for bugs and imperfections. We're trying to squash those bugs. And I think we've done an amazing job so far. Come this thursday, you'll all get to see why the entire team is so excited to release this product. We couldn't be prouder of episode 3!
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drusain

Puzzle theory:

[spoiler]While desperately trying to figure out one of the puzzles in Ep3 I noticed that peeking into the bazaar area with the clothes had more interaction than just seeing the clothes. You can actually notice carpets there that are (possibly) magic! This has to be the "artifact" to be able to get into the Winged One's city. I wouldn't be surprised if I could "walk" around the city on the carpet and go inside some of the high-up houses. I theorize that some sort of monster is going to be a jerk and try and throw me off the carpet while I'm in the air and kill me![/spoiler]

[spoiler]On the vein of the Winged Ones, I'd be surprised if we didn't see Celeste who will likely be important for some spell ingredient[/spoiler]

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i dreamed i played Episode 4  ::)  :P
then i woke up  :(  >:(

Arkillian

Quote from: drusain on February 22, 2011, 09:46:07 AM
Puzzle theory:

[spoiler]While desperately trying to figure out one of the puzzles in Ep3 I noticed that peeking into the bazaar area with the clothes had more interaction than just seeing the clothes. You can actually notice carpets there that are (possibly) magic! This has to be the "artifact" to be able to get into the Winged One's city. I wouldn't be surprised if I could "walk" around the city on the carpet and go inside some of the high-up houses. I theorize that some sort of monster is going to be a jerk and try and throw me off the carpet while I'm in the air and kill me![/spoiler]

[spoiler]On the vein of the Winged Ones, I'd be surprised if we didn't see Celeste who will likely be important for some spell ingredient[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Oh yes- I don't need to be TSL staf to tell you one of those carpets is magical and flying like :) We have to stick it in the Winged one's faces at SOME point during the game ;)[/spoiler]



Aurelind

Wow!  It's fun when you guess rightly (at least on the parts of my predictions so far revealed)! ;D Maybe I should go into business with Madame Mushka... ;)

Cez

yeah, you got a bunch of those right!!!


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mythosopher

After this last cut scene, I don't understand how [spoiler]Valanice could be a Druid, a Silver Cloak, AND the apprentice of a Black Cloak. Nor do I understand how should could have known/helped Graham during KQ1.[/spoiler]

BTW, [spoiler]Who did Graham have to take the magic mirror from in KQ1[/spoiler]?

And who is this fugly troll creature?
~Mythosopher

Cez

[spoiler]She's not a Silver Cloak. Just the daughter of a Black Cloak, which makes her a Black Cloak. She's also descendant of the druids. [/spoiler]


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Quote from: mythosopher on February 27, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
BTW, [spoiler]Who did Graham have to take the magic mirror from in KQ1[/spoiler]?

He took the Magic Mirror from the dragon who was guarding it from beneath the well.

Quote from: mythosopher on February 27, 2011, 10:04:23 PM
And who is this fugly troll creature?

Looks like just another fugly troll creature.
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Arkillian

Quote from: Cez on February 28, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
[spoiler]She's not a Silver Cloak. Just the daughter of a Black Cloak, which makes her a Black Cloak. She's also descendant of the druids. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I assume its the whole joining dark and light and getting epic babies thing then :) [/spoiler]



mythosopher

Quote from: Cez on February 28, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
[spoiler]She's not a Silver Cloak. Just the daughter of a Black Cloak, which makes her a Black Cloak. She's also descendant of the druids. [/spoiler]
My impression from the last cut scene was that
[spoiler]She's not a blood relative of the Black Cloaks, but that Manannan "adopted" her, in a manner. (Tee hee, Manannan, manners.  :P ) I also could have sworn that someone (Ranger?) said she was related to the Silver Cloaks. And when did she ever meet Graham and help him previously?[/spoiler]
~Mythosopher

Damar

#94
Finally was able to find the time to finish episode three.  So here are my thoughts.

Quote from: Cez on February 28, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
[spoiler]She's not a Silver Cloak. Just the daughter of a Black Cloak, which makes her a Black Cloak. She's also descendant of the druids. [/spoiler]

Really?  I completely missed that.  I just assumed that
[spoiler]Valanice was the missing Druid child Fand.  I didn't think she was actually Manannan's daughter, just that he took her and raised her.  I figured her calling him "father" was more of an emotional reaction, not a statement of fact.  Manannan's reaction of "She called me father" seemed to indicate that he was amused, like it wasn't really true.  Then again, if he is really her father like you say, maybe he didn't tell her and that amusement was actually amazement that she knew.  This would also explain how she wrote Graham's name on the window.  Maybe she has the power to see the future.[/spoiler]

also

[spoiler]If Valanice is Faan, and really I think that makes sense regardless.  After all, Graham was able to take Faan's candle.  If she is Faan, then where is the Arch Druid's sister?  Was she also stolen by the Black Cloaks?  And if they tried to raise Valanice to be evil, maybe they did the same for her?  So check this out: What if the Arch Druid's sister is Hagatha?  She's the only other character that we know of that fits the bill in terms of being old and evil.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]It's been revealed that Shadrack is the guy trapped in the stone.  I'm not sure how he was sending and receiving letters in King's Quest 6, but no big deal I guess.  Post offices in the middle ages rocked I guess.  I'm not sure why he's screwing with Valanice though.  Maybe he's trying to bring her back to the evil side and she's resisting him.  That would explain why he's bringing back her memories, hoping that she will remember Manannan and the fact that she was fond of him and considered him a father figure so that she'll start playing for their team again.  If that's the case, no wonder she's in so much turmoil and attempted to kill herself.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]If Graham is descended from Silver Cloaks, is it possible that the Ranger is actually his biological father (or some sort of ancestor?)  Actually, let me rephrase that.  I think the Ranger is actually Graham's biological father or some sort of ancestor.  After all the other Silver Cloaks entered the Zodia Stone to trap Shadrack.  But obviously the Ranger is the only one left for some reason.  Either he wussed out and didn't enter the stone with the others (which would explain why the bonds failed to hold Shadrack in the stone, and the fact that there are actually 13 zodiac signs, not 12 as 12 Silver Cloaks sacrificed themselves) or he was left out of the sacrifice to keep the line going in case Shadrack ever got out.[/spoiler]

snabbott

[spoiler]Fand wasn't a baby. She's the one who made the candles.[/spoiler]

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Damar

I missed that.  For some reason I had it in my head that the Arch Druid said Fand's parents made the candle.  Ah well.  And now with the magic of editing I will right my inaccuracy!

Regardless, my point remains.  I still think she's Fand.

tslaccount

Dracula hasn't been mentioned yet, but most people miss that he's still alive at the end of King's Quest 2. Even if Graham kills him.

fluxmaster

#98
Here's how I think the game will end:

[spoiler]Since Shadrack is the leader of the Black Cloak Society, and all the other members are merely his puppets, when Graham defeats Shadrack, the other members will loose their evil characteristics.  Alexander will voluntarily reverse the spell he put on Mananan.  There will be a reconciliation between Alexander and Valanice on the one hand and Mananan on the other.  Alexander will take comfort in the fact that, although he was not raised by his parents, he was, after all, raised by his grandfather.  Perhaps Mananan will teach him more magic and help him be a better ruler.[/spoiler]

Personally, I think that it's rather weird that you're tying the characters together the way you are.  I would have liked it better if you had simply given Graham a new villain to fight who had no connection to the other villains.  But, given your vision, you're certainly going a great job of realizing it.

Regarding a comment made by others:

[spoiler]I consider it highly unlikely that Graham will sacrifice one of his children.  There certainly are numerous examples in mythology of a father sacrificing on of his children to appease a god, for example, Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter Iphigenia to satisfy Artemis.  But if POS were to follow the line of the Greek tragedy, they would have Graham sacrifice Rosella, then Valanice murder Graham in revenge, then Alexander murder Valanice in revenge, then Alexander put on trial for murder and get off due to a hung jury, then Alexander discover that Rosella is still alive and living as a slave and rescue her.  I seriously doubt that POS would go that line.  Perhaps Graham will sacrifice himself, but I would prefer not so dark an ending.[/spoiler]

Judging from the sneak preview of Episode 4

[spoiler]Episode 4 will also be in the Green Isles.[/spoiler]

I do hope that we get to see some other lands before the end of the game.  Tamir and Daventry would be nice, and perhaps Kolyma as well.
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KatieHal

Well, the place the Tower was in was definitely not the Green Isles. Or Kolyma/the magic island, granted, but definitely not the Green Isles! :)

We will get to see an entirely new land before the game is done.

Heh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)

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