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Started by KatieHal, September 18, 2010, 09:07:28 PM

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fluxmaster

Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 01:35:26 PM
Well, the place the Tower was in was definitely not the Green Isles. Or Kolyma/the magic island, granted, but definitely not the Green Isles! :)

True, but that was in a dream.  Plus, at the end of episode 3

[spoiler]Mananan makes the tower disappear from its original location[/spoiler]

so I assume that it was transported to the magic island off the coast of Kolyma where Graham discovers it.

Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 01:35:26 PM
We will get to see an entirely new land before the game is done.

Great!  Will we also get to see another one of the old lands in 3-D?  That was my main reason for playing this game.  As I recall, the original plan was to recreate all of the old lands in 3-D, but that would have taken too long, so about 40% of the story was eliminated to allow the game to be finished.

Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 01:35:26 PM
Heh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)

That would be the Oedipean cycle; I was referring to the Orestean cycle.  No, I wouldn't want to see that in the game, either.  Although Aristotle considered Oedipus the king his favorite play, it certainly isn't mine!

So you haven't commented on my guess as to how the game will end.  Was I close?
The Fluxmaster

KatieHal

Quote from: fluxmaster on April 17, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
Great!  Will we also get to see another one of the old lands in 3-D?  That was my main reason for playing this game.  As I recall, the original plan was to recreate all of the old lands in 3-D, but that would have taken too long, so about 40% of the story was eliminated to allow the game to be finished.

Hmm...sort of. :)

Quote from: fluxmaster on April 17, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
So you haven't commented on my guess as to how the game will end.  Was I close?
:suffer:

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

fluxmaster

Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 03:29:02 PM
Hmm...sort of. :)

"Sort of" as in a small part of another land that we can walk around in, interact, and pick up things, or "sort of" as in a cutscene.  If we can walk around a small part of Daventry, Tamir, etc. in 3-D, interact, and pick up things, then I'll be happy.  Cut scenes don't count.
The Fluxmaster

Enchantermon

Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 01:35:26 PMHeh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)
Oh barf...please Katie, if you have any sympathy at all, never bring Oedipus up again. ;)
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

Lenny318

I can't say anything based on the sneak preview of episode 4 since the computer I played the game on was not connected to the internet  :wall: and now I am like 300+ miles from said computer (my computer is awesome and bits and pieces of everyone are missing... same with rooms and landscapes it's pretty awesome)

But I'm really hoping...
[spoiler]that Edgar does something in this chapter, given all of his frustrations about not being able to do anything, Titania's hinting that "he may yet surprise us," and the old 'teaser' audio from way back in the day where Edgar was all "What good am I to her?  Like this?  Well what would you know?" which turned into a conversation with Graham.  Ok yeah, I'm just dying to know when that piece of dialogue is going to turn up... I hope it wasn't cut out over the years T.T[/spoiler]
"Hi Rosella. The bad guys captured me as a kid and I couldn't figure out what was going on until you saved me a few years back. After all your efforts, I couldn't even stay out of trouble for one day and the bad guys got me all over again. My mind is easily warped, so I had no self-control when I turned you into an ugly troll. Then I almost blew up the world with this volcano..."

-Shadyparadox 's paraphrasing of Edgar's little speech at the end of KQVII  (youtube)

KatieHal

It's more than cutscenes. :) More than that, you'll have to wait to find out!  :suffer:

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

kindofdoon

Quote from: Enchantermon on April 17, 2011, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: KatieHal on April 17, 2011, 01:35:26 PMHeh, and in your Greek tragedy version there, you forgot the part where Alex would somehow marry Valanice without knowing she was his mother first ;)
Oh barf...please Katie, if you have any sympathy at all, never bring Oedipus up again. ;)

:X Especially in the KQ universe.

Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

KatieHal

I solemnly swear the remaining plot of TSL will not turn Oedipal!

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

Enchantermon

Quote from: KatieHal on April 19, 2011, 09:18:05 PMI solemnly swear the remaining plot of TSL will not turn Oedipal!
Oh good... *breathes*
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

fluxmaster

#109
I was looking through the Royal Archives and encountered the following quote:

Quote from: Cesar
During Part 1: Shadows, we visit the Land of the Green Isles, and the enigmatic Dreamworld.

During Part 2, [The Two That Are One] we visit the lands of time, Astratos, The magical Endless Forest and Daventry Castle (Which we'll be able to explore completely)

During Part 3, Eternities, We visit Dreoria, the Land of Dragons, and the Maze of Infinity.

and Kolyma

although we are always coming back and forth to different lands.

So apparently my previous statement that the original plan was to visit all the lands of the previous games was incorrect.  Besides the Green Isles, the only other previous lands that we were going to revisit were Daventry Castle (in the middle part) and Kolyma (in the last part); all the other lands were to be new.  And we would not even be visiting the entire realm of Daventry, but only the castle.

It would be nice to be able to see the troll bridge, the goat pen, and the ancient well in 3-D, but it appears that we'll never get to do that, unless TellTale games recreates Daventry in 3-D.  I was looking forward to walking around Daventry in 3-D in KQ-8, but that Daventry bore no resemblance to the original.  Perhaps we'll still be able to explore Daventry Castle, or at least a small part of it, in this game.

Since the wallpaper background to these forums pictures some sort of forest, I assume that we'll be able to visit the magical Endless Forest in episode 4.

That leaves us with Kolyma for episode 5 (and perhaps one or two other new places).  Since KatieHal answered "Sort of" to my question, perhaps we'll be able to visit a part of Kolyma in a dream.  That would be okay so long as we can walk around there at leisure and not have to rush through an arcade sequence.  Since most of Kolyma is simply generic forest, there would be no point in recreating it.  Revisiting grandma's house would be pointless.  I doubt that there would be any reason to return to the chapel.  We might perhaps return to the antique shop if Pandora's box has been placed there.  Perhaps there would be some reason to return to Dracula's castle.  But, most likely, if we return to Kolyma in a dream, it will be to visit the house where Valanice grew up.

Then there is the possibility that grandma's house is the house where Valanice grew up.  But if Valanice believes that she grew up with her parents, and her mother is Graham's grandmother, then that would make Valanice Graham's mother, or, more likely, his aunt.  If this is her dark secret, then learning that Mananan is her real father would release her from this.  KatieHal did promise us that the game would not go Oedipal, and, although this would be reverse-Oedipal, I don't think that the game will go this way.  Rather, I think the game will most likely end with a visit to Valanice's childhood home which is distinct from grandma's house, perhaps in a dream, to resolve any conflicts left over from her childhood.

EDIT:  I just realized that the grandma in KQ2 was Little Red Riding Hood's grandma, not Graham's grandma.  So please disregard what I wrote about Valanice being Graham's mother.

One final prediction before episode 4 comes out:  Episode 4 will be entitled "'Tis In My Memory Locked. And You Yourself Shall Hold The Key Of It."  My prediction is that

[spoiler]the "key" will be the skeleton key found in the drawer in the wagon in the tower sequence;[/spoiler]

otherwise, that entire sequence will have been useless.
The Fluxmaster

newsblade

#110
[spoiler]Maybe Graham's choice between light and darkness will be more than choose between one of his children. Perhaps to get rid of all evil in that world means he will accept the end of Daventry and all lands, by turning his reality into a fantasy world once and for all.

He would have to choose to transform his real life, memories, experience, friends, Good and Evil, into a mere dream world of fantasy -- pieces of fragments, that we, in this new reality, would know them as 'fairy tales'. And that would be the origin of all myths and the real source of inspiration of Grimm, Anderson, Arabian Nights, etc.

All reality of KQ would turn into fragments of fantasy dreams. The dream worlds would consume their reality by turning it into several messed up 'kid' stories with no relation between them (eg. fairy godmothers, sorcering, little red wood, the Beanstalk, the wonder land, etc.)  which, in our new real world (as we know), people would never guess they actually existed and came from the same place - which was 'the world of King's Quest'.

...And that would be the end of Graham's adventures... the king would finally end his quest... until, sometime in the future, a group of archaeologists find a familiar mirror that would show them the true past and would unlocked...  ... ...[/spoiler]

OK I was just being random – I don't have any idea how the story will end, but it would be sweet if Graham and Valanice could get their stolen happy youth back.

Another thing that would be interesting was if Shadrack/the cloaked guy was in fact Crispinophur. I'm not saying this because Crispin wears a black cloak, but because in KQ5 the guy (disguised as Santa) passively sent us to Mordack's castle (in hope) that we would be imprisoned with our family, castle and our 3 magic items (yes, maybe he was teaming with Mordak all the time, trying to trap Graham)... or maybe he was testing Graham to see how far he could get (sending a owl spy with him)... or just to see if Mordak could beat us (if not, we automatically would get rid of him).

Anyway, I must tell you what a great game TSL is. I think I like this better than the originals.

KatieHal

Some interesting theories, there, newsblade. And thank you, and welcome to the forums!

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

m.ward

This is just an idea to consider for another game, making a space quest 7 :(
m.ward

wilco64256

If we do ever make another Sierra franchise game we'll be doing it as a commercial effort, so definitely don't expect to see us do any more free fan sequel type stuff.
Weldon Hathaway

Cez

a SQ7 project would be fun to make together with Murphy or Mandel. Give us some time. We'll eventually and hopefully get there!


Cesar Bittar
CEO
Phoenix Online
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snabbott

Quote from: Cez on November 03, 2011, 06:45:02 PM
a SQ7 project would be fun to make together with Murphy or Mandel. Give us some time. We'll eventually and hopefully get there!
That would be amazing! !!!

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

wilco64256

Yeah we would most definitely love to work on Sierra stuff more in the future, that would be really great.
Weldon Hathaway

DawsonJ

According to what the Wizard says to Valanice, it seems to me that time is reversing to help everyone remember their personal pasts.

TribeHasSpoken

Since Cez stated that Joaquin Phoenix was an inspiration for Alexander, I assume that Alex will announce his intention to step down from the throne in order to pursue a rapping career, grow a beard, do incoherent interviews and then later insist that it was all a hoax.
Once the votes are read, the decision is final. The person voted out will be asked to leave the Tribal Council area immediately. I'll read the votes...


flitchard

Hmm...

I'm interested in what [spoiler]Shadrack[/spoiler] said during the last bit of the game...

[spoiler]Could Graham be 1,000 years old, somehow? Maybe a reincarnation of one of the Silver Cloaks???[/spoiler]