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POLL: New voice actors in Episode 2 [SPOILERS]

Started by kindofdoon, September 19, 2010, 02:28:59 PM

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Which new voice actors in Episode 2 are your favorite? (PICK THREE)

Lamp peddler
5 (14.7%)
Map seller
3 (8.8%)
Candy seller
0 (0%)
Alexander
13 (38.2%)
Valanice
1 (2.9%)
Guard dogs
0 (0%)
Jollo
8 (23.5%)
Ali (bookshop owner)
2 (5.9%)
Sour grapes
0 (0%)
White Knight
10 (29.4%)
Red Knight
0 (0%)
The Ranger
7 (20.6%)
Seanymphs
1 (2.9%)
Hole-in-the-Wall
11 (32.4%)
Kid on docks
0 (0%)
Black Widow
2 (5.9%)
Manannan
12 (35.3%)
Other (specify)
1 (2.9%)
Shamir
0 (0%)
Edgar
3 (8.8%)
The Vines
1 (2.9%)
Hagatha
2 (5.9%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Cez

Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.   :o  hehe

lol he wasn't really trying to psychoanalyze Edgar hehe. One thing I personally tried to portray in this game was how Graham feels about failing Alexander, since that's the one time when he has failed a family member so badly. The question is more to try to understand what his son went through.

Graham/Edgar was one of my fav moments, as it is Graham/Cassima in a following episode. I like chatty conversations that go into the character's personalities.  


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waltzdancing

Quote from: waltzdancing on September 20, 2010, 10:53:12 PM
:o OMG, Mike was Jollo and the peddler man, while doing Alex! I'm floored! I guess I need to pay more attention to the credits next time. I remember listening to an only recording with Alexander and Sarah, and when I actually spoke to the team on Skype and heard Mike, I was stunned that I was talking to the new Alex.

I had the exact same thought talking to him over Skype. I was like "Holy crap. It's alexander. I'M TALKING TO ALEXANDER!"
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Yep, I think I smiled the whole way through that one too. It was that, or I was just so surprised that I was actually on the team. That was a long time ago.  :P

Cez

Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.   :o  hehe

oh, and wasn't you that asked for a "Brokeback Mountain" moment. There, I made your wish come true! :P


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Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.  ;)

I can agree that that one bit was creepy. The only reason I decided to continue listening to that part was to see if the story was going somewhere with it. Unfortunately, I listened to the entire scenario to find out that it was unnecessary.

I thought there was something personal with Graham asking Edgar about his past though. Graham has already said that he doesn't connect to his son as well as he does his daughter. He's probably concerned about what Alex may be thinking and what he went through. I got the same feeling when he was asking Ali about Alex and what he liked to read. Maybe Graham just wants to get to know his son in a way that he couldn't for 18 years. But as Edgar said, his experience wasn't in any way related to Alexander's experience.    
Freudian Slip - "When you say one thing, but mean your mother."

Lambonius

Quote from: Cez on September 20, 2010, 10:59:23 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.   :o  hehe

lol he wasn't really trying to psychoanalyze Edgar hehe. One thing I personally tried to portray in this game was how Graham feels about failing Alexander, since that's the one time when he has failed a family member so badly. The question is more to try to understand what his son went through.

Graham/Edgar was one of my fav moments, as it is Graham/Cassima in a following episode. I like chatty conversations that go into the character's personalities.  

;)  I know.  I'm just kidding around.  I did have to chuckle to myself about the idea of Edgar spying on Alexander while bathing, but that was more my own juvenile mind than the way it came across in the actual game.  ;)

waltzdancing

Bad image.

I wasn't that disturbed by the conversation. Edgar was just walking the beach, while Rosella did girl stuff. Alex happens to be chilling by himself when Edgar comes along and sees the scars. My hands are all scarred up from the stupid stuff I do, and people are always asking about them and how I did it.

Cez

Quote from: Fierce Deity on September 20, 2010, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.  ;)

I can agree that that one bit was creepy. The only reason I decided to continue listening to that part was to see if the story was going somewhere with it. Unfortunately, I listened to the entire scenario to find out that it was unnecessary.

I thought there was something personal with Graham asking Edgar about his past though. Graham has already said that he doesn't connect to his son as well as he does his daughter. He's probably concerned about what Alex may be thinking and what he went through. I got the same feeling when he was asking Ali about Alex and what he liked to read. Maybe Graham just wants to get to know his son in a way that he couldn't for 18 years. But as Edgar said, his experience wasn't in any way related to Alexander's experience.    

The conversation with Edgar I felt was also necessary to let the players know/remind them of how evil Manannan was to Alex (the whole thing about scars). I figured some people wouldn't even remember Manannan, or maybe never played KQ3, so I wanted to build up around it so that later it had a much more emotional impact.


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dark-daventry

Quote from: Cez on September 20, 2010, 11:07:02 PM
Quote from: Fierce Deity on September 20, 2010, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 10:54:20 PM
Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Graham/Edgar conversation.  I found it needlessly emotional and out of character, especially when Graham starts playing psychoanalyst on Edgar--"remember when you were kidnapped as an infant and raised by the evil sorceress, Lolotte?  How did that make you feel?"  Lol.  Also, Edgar's story about watching Alexander bathe in the ocean with his shirt off was honestly kinda creepy.  ;)

I can agree that that one bit was creepy. The only reason I decided to continue listening to that part was to see if the story was going somewhere with it. Unfortunately, I listened to the entire scenario to find out that it was unnecessary.

I thought there was something personal with Graham asking Edgar about his past though. Graham has already said that he doesn't connect to his son as well as he does his daughter. He's probably concerned about what Alex may be thinking and what he went through. I got the same feeling when he was asking Ali about Alex and what he liked to read. Maybe Graham just wants to get to know his son in a way that he couldn't for 18 years. But as Edgar said, his experience wasn't in any way related to Alexander's experience.   

The conversation with Edgar I felt was also necessary to let the players know/remind them of how evil Manannan was to Alex (the whole thing about scars). I figured some people wouldn't even remember Manannan, or maybe never played KQ3, so I wanted to build up around it so that later it had a much more emotional impact.

It was definitely a powerful moment for me. KQ3 never really elaborated on how badly Manannan treated him, but hearing that stuff now is just really powerful. The saddest part is that I can believe every word of that. tsk tsk, manannan. What a naughty wizard you've been.
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Quote from: Cez on September 20, 2010, 11:07:02 PM
The conversation with Edgar I felt was also necessary to let the players know/remind them of how evil Manannan was to Alex (the whole thing about scars). I figured some people wouldn't even remember Manannan, or maybe never played KQ3, so I wanted to build up around it so that later it had a much more emotional impact.

I can see that. I guess it was the delivery of the concept that got me questioning the scene. I can see how Edgar could have unintentionally "spied" on Alexander in passing and see the scars, thus sparking concern for his well-being. I just got blindsided by the circumstances.
Freudian Slip - "When you say one thing, but mean your mother."

waltzdancing

I remember how bad he was. I was always hanging upside down or 'running' as a snail, was dusted a couple of times too. I hate Manannan. *shivers at the memories*

dark-daventry

Quote from: waltzdancing on September 20, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
I remember how bad he was. I was always hanging upside down or 'running' as a snail, was dusted a couple of times too. I hate Manannan. *shivers at the memories*

I think everyone hates Manannan. I know I do.
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Lambonius

#52
Lol...you guys.  I get what you were trying to do--personally I think it was a little ham-fisted in its execution--but I get it.  It sorta tries to slap you in the face with the gravitas--which of course ultimately diffuses it and robs it of its intended emotional weight.  But the back story is interesting enough.  I just think that sometimes the implications of abuse are more powerful than actually saying "hey, look at those scars on Alex's back!  Those scars came from a whip!  Alexander was whipped by his former master!  Oh by the way did I mention he was a slave?  Well he was.  A slave to a wizard.  An evil one.  Oh, and he was topless, that's how I saw the scars.  The ones made by the whip."  ;)

To be fair, I did like the contrast between Edgar's kidnapping and childhood vs. Alexander's.  It's not something everyone would think about, even if they had played all the KQ games before.

Fierce Deity

Quote from: Lambonius on September 20, 2010, 11:16:03 PM
Lol...you guys.  I get what you were trying to do--personally I think it was a little ham-fisted in its execution--but I get it.  It sorta tries to slap you in the face with the gravitas--which of course ultimately diffuses it and robs it of its intended emotional weight.

Yup, this is how I reacted to it.

Quote from: dark-daventry on September 20, 2010, 11:15:22 PM
Quote from: waltzdancing on September 20, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
I remember how bad he was. I was always hanging upside down or 'running' as a snail, was dusted a couple of times too. I hate Manannan. *shivers at the memories*
I think everyone hates Manannan. I know I do.

I like him as a villain. I think he'll be an excellent villain in TSL. I liked Mordack, but I don't think he's done enough as a villain to be considered a "true" threat. I mean, he got defeated by a wand that was powered by cheese. Not cool, Mordack. Not cool!  :no:
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waltzdancing

That stupid cheese puzzle. The point in the game when Manannan was talking to Alexander sent major flashbacks to me and the point at the end when Alexander is screaming sent chills through my body. It is time for my game face.  :yes:

theroachyjay

I like the map seller.  There's just something appealing about his voice and the enthusiasm.  I think if I ran into him in real life, I'd like to listen to him tell me about the lands.  
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Quote from: waltzdancing on September 20, 2010, 11:28:10 PM
That stupid cheese puzzle. The point in the game when Manannan was talking to Alexander sent major flashbacks to me and the point at the end when Alexander is screaming sent chills through my body. It is time for my game face.  :yes:

I swear, my jaw literally dropped when I heard "Gwydion!?" and then that close-up on Alexander's face. I kept thinking, "No way! But how . . ." I have the worst fear that something might happen to Alexander. I don't think he'll be harmed physically, but most definitely mentally.
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waltzdancing

Totally agree. I haven't really gone through the other episodes, trying to bring fresh eyes to the beta testing process, but I am worried about Alexander, if Manannan has escaped then we are in trouble.

Monkey Slice

Quote from: snabbott on September 20, 2010, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: kindofdoon on September 19, 2010, 02:45:08 PM
I did too, but all of his lines followed the pattern of "That's right", followed by a repetition of what the Red Knight just said. That annoyed me...
That was actually a big part of what I liked about him. [spoiler]especially when he starts to agree that it's his fault![/spoiler]

Thanks folks, I'm glad I did the part justice :)
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Cez

Hey Kris! Welcome to the forums! Your White Knight has always cracked me up! :D


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