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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #100 on: October 12, 2010, 05:32:06 PM »
I'll give you the Gnat part of it--I think he used to have wings but he doesn't now, and he does have the 'bug eyes' sort of, but yeah, he doesn't look terribly gnat-like despite his name.

I thought "gnat" was figurative, as in "an annoyance" (ie. Mag-Gnat = a magnetic annoyance).
Ooooooooooooooooooh.

I think we have a winner!
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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #101 on: October 12, 2010, 05:36:22 PM »
I'll give you the Gnat part of it--I think he used to have wings but he doesn't now, and he does have the 'bug eyes' sort of, but yeah, he doesn't look terribly gnat-like despite his name.

I thought "gnat" was figurative, as in "an annoyance" (ie. Mag-Gnat = a magnetic annoyance).
Ooooooooooooooooooh.

I think we have a winner!

Honestly, I didn't give it that much thought, but I'll take it :)


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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #102 on: October 12, 2010, 05:45:25 PM »
No one has a problem with the Mag-Gnat. It's just been noted that it does not conform to the general theme displayed on the Isle of Wonder.

It's OK that it's different. Sierra took all the good ones already, including the ones not relevant to the puzzles such as sour grapes and cattails. So inventing a new creature that fits the scheme AND creates a good puzzle is a tall task indeed. So the Mag-Gnat misses, but just barely, and is probably about as good as one can do.

The Mag-Gnat is not even at the heart of the discussion. What we're discussing is whether the Isle of Wonder is simply a place where anything illogical flies or if there is something much more profound going on. As some of us have observed, the Isle of Wonder characters are based on literal interpretations of common idioms and phrases. So generally speaking, putting something in the game simply because it's "illogical" is not sufficient justification.

But again this isn't really about the Mag-Gnat. I'm just disappointed the designers are not acknowledging the running theme in the Isle of Wonder and its brilliant implementation.

We are acknowledging it. I give you that the concept of the Magnat could have been implemented in a much smarter way --like lamb suggested having the key be made of fruit and then do a trail of fruity things, but it's also not like we put in something that defies everything seen in the Isle. It still fits the overall concept, if pushing the boundaries a bit --but again, the Gnomes do--, and definitely not in the brilliant way Roberta and Jane did --and I can probably excuse myself for my lack of control over the english language at the time, but I won't--, but we have acknowledged what this place is and you can notice it by the narrator's comments about this world, which almost quote directly the explanations given in the manual about it. I did try to immerse myself in every one of this isles as much as I could before I typed any of the narrator's comments.
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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #103 on: October 12, 2010, 06:34:20 PM »
For a science-y perspective, gold is actually diamagnetic - that is, it is repellled (weakly) by a magnetic field. However, if it could be given a net charge or if a circular current could be induced in it (such as in a solenoid), it would be attracted to a magnet. Maybe Mag-Gnat has the power to do this. :P

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #104 on: October 12, 2010, 06:49:28 PM »
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http://made it a cold freezing piece of blue
It's actually a cold piece of green and white ice in KQ6, btw. Looks just like regular iceberg lettuce but melts like ice.

Your iceberg lettuce in Episode II is blue, and has a stem like a flower or rose, strangely enough. Doesn't really look like any lettuce I'm awhare of.
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2010, 07:04:20 PM »
If it was just supposed to be a little guy who takes your money, you could have gone with

Gold Digger - A lady mole who steals your gold

or

Money Grubber - a grub who steals your gold


It's not rocket surgery.


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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2010, 07:29:41 PM »
LOL@ Gold Digger, nicely done :)
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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #107 on: October 12, 2010, 07:37:24 PM »
If it was just supposed to be a little guy who takes your money, you could have gone with

Gold Digger - A lady mole who steals your gold

or

Money Grubber - a grub who steals your gold


It's not rocket surgery.


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No, but there's a puzzle to satisfy as well --which to me is the best puzzle of episode 2.

EDIT: Wow, I totally missed the irony of this. dammit, BT!

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #108 on: October 12, 2010, 08:31:19 PM »
. . . and grain of sands may tell you to put them back . . .
So I'm quite interested in this little tidbit now... :)
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #109 on: October 12, 2010, 10:11:03 PM »
. . . and grain of sands may tell you to put them back . . .
So I'm quite interested in this little tidbit now... :)

It's in the KQ Companion's description of the Isle--I'm not sure if there's a corresponding narration in KQ6.  Now I'm curious about it, though.  :)

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #110 on: October 12, 2010, 10:25:59 PM »
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It's in the KQ Companion's description of the Isle--I'm not sure if there's a corresponding narration in KQ6.  Now I'm curious about it, though.
It's from the Guidebook to the Land of the Green Isles, actually, the manual for KQ6, which was written by Jane Jensen.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #111 on: October 12, 2010, 10:31:07 PM »
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It's in the KQ Companion's description of the Isle--I'm not sure if there's a corresponding narration in KQ6.  Now I'm curious about it, though.
It's from the Guidebook to the Land of the Green Isles, actually, the manual for KQ6, which was written by Jane Jensen.

Oops, you're right, I misread your previous post.  Thanks for the correction, Sir.  :)

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2010, 10:32:11 PM »
Oh. Never mind, then; I thought we had gotten a hint of things to come.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

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Re: Gold...or is it?
« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2010, 10:32:56 PM »
If it was just supposed to be a little guy who takes your money, you could have gone with

Gold Digger - A lady mole who steals your gold


LOL...Nice, Steve.  Gold Digger actually would have been really clever.  :)
 

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