AGDI Ports to Mac!

[crayauchtin]

AGDI has released a Mac version of KQ1 VGA!

Obviously, I'm downloading it right now since I am not tech-literate enough to get any emulators to work for me and I really don't like our downstairs PC much (although all our games work fine on it, I'd rather play games in bed than at a desk! )

They are also working on making Mac versions of their other two games as well!

Hurray for Mac-lovin'!

[kindofdoon]

Link please?

[Lambonius]

Link please?

Try the AGDI homepage, dude. 

[atec123]

I hear they are just winewrapped.....

but either way it's nice.  the games work perfect in wine so this will just be like using wine but without having to set it up.

now about the linux port.....that's the hard one to make.

[crayauchtin]

Yeah they are winewrapped but that's still very nice for those of us who can't figure out how to work wine.

They do have someone working on a linux port, claiming to be "almost done" so we'll see about that!

[atec123]

They do have someone working on a linux port, claiming to be "almost done" so we'll see about that!

oh... that's me

and I am very close.  midi is killing me though.  Eithr midi works but there is an error because the other sound won't work, or the main sound works and the midi doesn't work.

BTW... cray, have you tried using my method for installing wine in my thread?  It isn't that hard and I can help.  you could get tsl working and stuff on linux or mac.

[crayauchtin]

Hahaha, I love how I suck at seeing who is posting things. But, look, atec, your work is so impressive we're talking about you over here!

I've only skimmed your thread actually, so no I haven't. I should sit down and read it at some point!

[Lambonius]

Figuring out wine actually was pretty easy--it just takes a little patience (and good skills in following written instructions.)    I knew next to nothing about Wine til I started trying to get TSL up and running with atec's help.  Now I use Wine for a number of little programs and games--much easier and space-saving than dual booting or using Parallels.

[MusicallyInspired]

They do have someone working on a linux port, claiming to be "almost done" so we'll see about that!

oh... that's me

and I am very close.  midi is killing me though.  Eithr midi works but there is an error because the other sound won't work, or the main sound works and the midi doesn't work.

The latest versions of AGDI's remakes don't even have MIDI tracks at all. It's all digital audio.

[atec123]

They do have someone working on a linux port, claiming to be "almost done" so we'll see about that!

oh... that's me

and I am very close.  midi is killing me though.  Eithr midi works but there is an error because the other sound won't work, or the main sound works and the midi doesn't work.

The latest versions of AGDI's remakes don't even have MIDI tracks at all. It's all digital audio.

version 4/3 or 4.1/3.1?  4.1/3.1 don't work with the linux engine (yet). 4.0/3.0 do but midi is a b****.
(even if it doesn't use midi i think it still needs to work)

[MusicallyInspired]

The only versions that actually use MIDI are KQ1 3.0 and KQ2+ 2.0 and earlier. Those were the initial releases that required you to actually download separate installers for speech and digital music packs. Any releases since then don't even have MIDI information in the game files at all.

[crayauchtin]

Figuring out wine actually was pretty easy--it just takes a little patience (and good skills in following written instructions.) 

Aye, and there's the rub!

The one thing I miss about Windows is that when I ran something in VDM Sound or Dosbox it was always SO EASY once the program was installed. I can't figure out if there's a way to make anything run that easily with a Mac, but I so wish there was!

[atec123]

Figuring out wine actually was pretty easy--it just takes a little patience (and good skills in following written instructions.)  

Aye, and there's the rub!

The one thing I miss about Windows is that when I ran something in VDM Sound or Dosbox it was always SO EASY once the program was installed. I can't figure out if there's a way to make anything run that easily with a Mac, but I so wish there was!

there is.

ScummVM. (they have dosbox for linux and mac too though)

The only versions that actually use MIDI are KQ1 3.0 and KQ2+ 2.0 and earlier. Those were the initial releases that required you to actually download separate installers for speech and digital music packs. Any releases since then don't even have MIDI information in the game files at all.

the problem is that the AGS engine still checks for midi capabilities.

[Lambonius]

The one thing I miss about Windows is that when I ran something in VDM Sound or Dosbox it was always SO EASY once the program was installed. I can't figure out if there's a way to make anything run that easily with a Mac, but I so wish there was!

Yeah, I agree.  It should be totally streamlined.  It seems like there is a kind of elitism to the Wine community (no offense, atec--not talking about you specifically ) where they almost WANT to keep it very complex and manual.  Like it's a badge of honor to be able to configure a program in the Terminal or something.  All my friends in college who were Linux users were the same way. 

[atec123]

The one thing I miss about Windows is that when I ran something in VDM Sound or Dosbox it was always SO EASY once the program was installed. I can't figure out if there's a way to make anything run that easily with a Mac, but I so wish there was!

Yeah, I agree.  It should be totally streamlined.  It seems like there is a kind of elitism to the Wine community (no offense, atec--not talking about you specifically ) where they almost WANT to keep it very complex and manual.  Like it's a badge of honor to be able to configure a program in the Terminal or something.  All my friends in college who were Linux users were the same way.  

That's cause when you use the terminal as much as me, it IS that easy.

There are easy options like winebottler, but it's a tad outdated.  maybe in the future it will be easier.  Wine is getting easier and better with every new version.  remember it's developed by a bunch of random opensource geeks in their spare time.

But seriously... ScummVM looks REALLY easy to use.  never used it but you should try it.  works on linux/mac/windows.
edit: oh this brings up another thing.  I am working on an install script for TSL/wine for mac.  should make everything run and install with just 1 command.

[snabbott]

When I ran the installer for TSL in Wine, it created a launch icon on the desktop for me. It took me a while to get the install to work, but after that, it was easy.

Speaking of the terminal, anyone who is moderately comfortable working in the terminal should go here:
http://uni.xkcd.com/

Fun things to try:
man
cat
man cat
help
man help
bash
emacs
vim
who
whoami
look
go south
(sudo restart)
light lamp
sleep
go east
make me a sandwich
sudo make me a sandwich
make love
apt-get
apt-get moo
echo
pwd
kill
more
unixkcd
man next
man last
nano
ed
cheat
locate ninja
locate keys
locate problem
locate raptor

[atec123]

Code Select Expand

[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ whoami
tommy
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ go south
bash: go: command not found
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ make me a sandwitch
make: *** No rule to make target `me'.  Stop.
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ make love
make: *** No rule to make target `love'.  Stop.
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ kill
kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ apt-get
bash: apt-get: command not found
[tommy@legitimacy ~]$ man
What manual page do you want?

I love the terminal.

wine is a bit harder to get working on a mac.  macs aren't set up for compiling and don't have a good package manager/repo like most linux distros.

[Lambonius]

Even winebottler is hardly what I'd call streamlined.  I think what people like cray and myself would really like to see would be a quick, easy, user-friendly, self-explanatory program that you just open up, select the Windows program, and then BAM, it runs.  Like ScummVM, but for any Windows programs, not just old-school adventure games.

[crayauchtin]

Yes, Lamb, absolutely.

Even Dosbox is a little tough for me on Mac, figuring out paths and such. Macs are so user-friendly 99% of the time, the problem is just that I want to use that 1%! I'm just... totally, totally completely computer inept.

I have to check out ScummVM though, I haven't heard of it before.

[waltzdancing]

I love ScummVM! I have a PC so dos-box works well too but I had to figure it out first.