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WOW, can you mess with our heads and hearts... (Ch 2 SPOILERS!)

Started by Sylver, December 14, 2010, 02:18:14 AM

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Sylver

This is my first thread in this community, though I've loved KQ since I was four, learning how to type "SWIM" before Graham drowned, and small-child Sylver went bawling to her mama because she just killed the King of Daventry.

I'm adoring everything TSL so far. The music is just amazing particularly - I could talk about that for ages. But what I have to address here is the writing. My God. The narration and dialogue were clearly written by a very longtime fan, with often the express purpose of fondly tugging at other longtime fans' heartstrings - Oh, yay! Hole in the Wall! C'mere, cutie! <3 OH MY GOD it's the Dangling Particple, why does this make me so stupidly HAPPY?! -

... Or punching them in the gut.

CHAPTER 2 SPOILERS FOLLOW.

Several times in just these two chapters I've been on the verge of tears. Whether that's happy (Wedding! I love weddings! And it's ROSELLA AND EDGAR, finally!), devastated (Alexander's scars... holy hell, poor baby. Suddenly everything Mannanan did to him hits home...) or horrified (Oh dear God don't jump Valanice!).

I wasn't expecting this. Maybe I didn't even know how very important all of these characters are to me, and have been since before I can remember, but. They are. And I certainly didn't expect for this game to wreak such wonderful havoc with my emotions.

And not just the bad ones either. Don't you DARE stop with the "boring walks down Memory Lane!" I want to hear about Cassima hiding in a vase when she was little! I want to hear about Valanice talking to her flowers, and Rosella asking why the princess can't save herself from the dragon. These are revelations that fit so well it's like we've always known, but it's wonderful to hear again. It's these little HUMAN moments that make them real.

And here more than ever, I'm feeling that... King Graham is just kind of Good Personified, isn't he? In chapter 1, I think a defining moment of his is refusing to take shelter from the magical storm without Hassan and the First Mate ("They're my crew, and if they're not going, neither am I!"). And later, his observations on the scarily pretty guillotine... Comforting Edgar, helping him see the good that comes from every awful moment...

Yeah. My heart kind of jumped into his hand. If everyone had a dad or a father-in-law or friend like the Graham you're showing us... well, the world would be a much friendlier, safer place.

So, thank you writers. Thank you so much for not only bringing them to life again, but giving them new life. Showing us that they're every bit as wonderful as we remember, and giving us new reasons to love them. Thank you for making me fall in love again.

... I can't wait for more. <3
... And while you're at it, keep the nightlight on inside the birdhouse in your soul. <3

KatieHal

Thank you so much Sylver! I'm glad you've been enjoying the game so much. :) Welcome to the forums!

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

wilco64256

Weldon Hathaway

Lambonius

Cez, is this you under a different name?  Be honest.   ;)

Arkillian

Another Hole in the wall fan! Yay! We run like a viral infection >:D



Ultima992

Quote from: Arkillian on December 14, 2010, 02:42:46 PM
Another Hole in the wall fan! Yay! We run like a viral infection >:D


:devil: yesssssss muhaha
:sweating: i mean....

:angel: yay!!

Welcome Sylver, glad to see another fan of both the game and hole-in-the-wall :)

Cez

Quote from: Lambonius on December 14, 2010, 02:10:48 PM
Cez, is this you under a different name?  Be honest.   ;)

That's actually sort of what I thought when I read it :P

Sylver, thank you for such amazing words. You made my day :) I'm glad you enjoyed the little details.


Cesar Bittar
CEO
Phoenix Online
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Cez

oh, and for Hole in the Wall lovers, I recorded new lines for the guy last night. Wait till you hear my take on "you are welcome. bye bye!"

It's a line that will MELT HEARTS and have everyone go awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ok, enough silly bragging :P


Cesar Bittar
CEO
Phoenix Online
cesar.bittar@postudios.com

KatieHal


Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

dark-daventry

Wow, that was rather beautiful to read. It truly was. I agree with your points. And Cez, I'm loving the avatar myself!
Founder of the (new) Left Handed Alliance Of Left Handed People (LHALHP)

Gay and proud of it!

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Enchantermon

Quote from: Cez on December 14, 2010, 03:55:34 PMWait till you hear my take on "you are welcome. bye bye!"
If it's anything like this, I will love you forever. :)
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

kindofdoon


Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

Sylver

Aww, thank you so much for the welcomes, guys! :D I feel very loved and filled with warmfuzzies.

Nope, I'm not Cez, though I'm delighted to see him reply here/figure out who he is! I honestly didn't know the game creators frequented these forums - that is so cool. Amazing that ye have actual fan interaction, something I'm not used to elsewhere. Love. And oh, God yeah, the little details are my favorite. The little human moments and loving touches are what make a good story an AMAZING ONE.

But yeah, my online handle has been "Sylver" or "SylverLining" for many years (which... might have something to do with why I love it here so much, aahaha! :) ) For lack of a better interwebs ID, here's my DeviantART account - http://sylverkitsune.deviantart.com/ It's the easiest way I know of telling people who I am.

Oh joys, I can't WAIT for more Hole in the Wall lines! <3 That little guy coming back is DEFINITELY full of love and nostalgia for me. And the Dangling Participle, he was one of my favorite characters growing up.

Fgfhghh. Now I can't wait even more for episode 3. Ohohoho, it makes me roll around in happy anticipation.

Yeah, I'm... a little strange, if ye guys hadn't noticed that yet. x3
... And while you're at it, keep the nightlight on inside the birdhouse in your soul. <3

Enchantermon

Quote from: Sylver on December 14, 2010, 08:46:34 PMAnd the Dangling Participle, he was one of my favorite characters growing up.
Did you see him in TSL?
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

kindofdoon


Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com


dark-daventry

You... can go in there?! I'm a team member and I didn't know that!

And hey, don't worry about being strange, we're all a little strange. I'm a very strange person. But strange people are my favorite kind of people. I think you'll fit in just fine here. I can't wait to see you around more often. We always welcome newcomers, and you seem like the kind of person who'll be visiting us a lot.
Founder of the (new) Left Handed Alliance Of Left Handed People (LHALHP)

Gay and proud of it!

Avid Adventure Game fan

C_Guy

Quote from: Cez on December 14, 2010, 03:55:34 PM
oh, and for Hole in the Wall lovers, I recorded new lines for the guy last night. Wait till you hear my take on "you are welcome. bye bye!"

It's a line that will MELT HEARTS and have everyone go awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ok, enough silly bragging :P

[spoiler]I was soooo sad to part with the Hole in the Wall, I'll be happy if we get to see him again[/spoiler]

:)

(Posted on: December 15, 2010, 02:32:41 AM)


Quote from: Sylver on December 14, 2010, 02:18:14 AM
I'm adoring everything TSL so far. The music is just amazing particularly - I could talk about that for ages. But what I have to address here is the writing. My God. The narration and dialogue were clearly written by a very longtime fan, with often the express purpose of fondly tugging at other longtime fans' heartstrings

I'd like to echo this sentiment also!  I consider myself a pretty die-hard fan but the depth and richness of the writing in this game has me wondering how well I really know the story of King's Quest.  I've played each game many times but not for many years.  To have TSL inter-twine so many characters and past events it really brings back a lot of fond memories and "Oh yeahhh I remember that!" kind of moments...  The game offers enough dialogue that even if TSL is your first King's Quest game, you could easily piece together what happened in past games (and of course, want to go play them!)

I believe (at least part of) the team's objective here was to bring a satisfactory conclusion to the story of King's Quest and I think that TSL is going to blow it right out of the water!  An effort Roberta herself would be proud of!

As I've said in other threads, you really truly can feel the heart that the team has put behind this project.  It was well worth the wait.

Arkillian

Quote from: Enchantermon on December 14, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
Quote from: Sylver on December 14, 2010, 08:46:34 PMAnd the Dangling Participle, he was one of my favorite characters growing up.
Did you see him in TSL?

I saw him and squeed :D I forgot to mention him cause I was so start struck by talking to Hole in the wall <3 That, and black widow was in the way  :help:

Quote from: Cez on December 14, 2010, 03:55:34 PM
oh, and for Hole in the Wall lovers, I recorded new lines for the guy last night. Wait till you hear my take on "you are welcome. bye bye!"

It's a line that will MELT HEARTS and have everyone go awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

ok, enough silly bragging :P

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! OMG MAKE IT JANUARY NOW!! I WANNA PLAY PART 3!!!! *fans self* I am *so* glad that HITW returns! And yes! I think it'd be awesome to have the dangling participle back too! I loved how curious he was, and the little animation of it going into Alexander's jacket <3 I picture it sitting on his shoulder as Alexander walks around ^^

Quote from: Sylver on December 14, 2010, 08:46:34 PM
But yeah, my online handle has been "Sylver" or "SylverLining" for many years (which... might have something to do with why I love it here so much, aahaha! :) ) For lack of a better interwebs ID, here's my DeviantART account - http://sylverkitsune.deviantart.com/ It's the easiest way I know of telling people who I am.

Oh joys, I can't WAIT for more Hole in the Wall lines! <3 That little guy coming back is DEFINITELY full of love and nostalgia for me. And the Dangling Participle, he was one of my favorite characters growing up.

Fgfhghh. Now I can't wait even more for episode 3. Ohohoho, it makes me roll around in happy anticipation.

Yeah, I'm... a little strange, if ye guys hadn't noticed that yet. x3

Just watched you ^^ I'm Arkillian everywhere so I'm pretty noticeable >.> XD

Welcome to the forums though ^^ 



LightWarrior

Wow, nice story and first post. Welcome to the community!

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Animator / Tech Artist
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Phoenix Online Studios

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